Emoluments and Internments: Arguments We'll Never See
The Volokh Conspiracy (via Politico) points us to the arguments that a recent pay raise for SoS makes Hillary’s appointment unconstitutional.
He acts as if this boys-will-be-boys turn-a-blind-eye reaction is only on these trivial details of Constitutional eligibility (McCain was born in the Canal Zone, Obama’s mother gave birth in Canada after hiking through the Andes with Shining Path guerrillas, blah blah blah). But it’s the nudge-nudge-wink-wink given to matters like suspending habeas corpus, pretending we don’t know countries we remand to will torture, allowing American citizens to be treated as “foreign combatants” and the like that make this more than a slightly clever noblesse oblige.
However the matter ends up hoisted by its own gender petard - the Founding Fathers presumably never assumed any Founding Mothers might be so presumptious as to vie for power, so the Article in question states, “during the Time for which he was elected”. Hillary may proceed without further ado, in converse to Lloyd Bentsen to whom this question last referred.
It might be a good time for young girls to start leafing through the various statutes, Articles and Bill of Rights to see what mischief they can get away with due to some major oversights in grammatical construction. Inseparate but unequal may just be the lay of the law after all. And the new fashion for the 2000’s.





You know what Des? During the primaries, I thought all the, let's call it "negative energy", directed at Hillary was a result of the competition, the thrill of battle or some such thing. So, when it went over the top, as it frequently did, I sort of just wrote it off to that.
Seeing that it has lasted long past the primaries and exploded once again around this SoS spot has really just baffled me. It's just so irrational. And then, on top of that, people (Arianna Huffington) complain about all the drama Hillary would bring, while she (and others) are the ones busily creating the drama.
Meanwhile, people like Bill Maher and Andrew Sullivan have sounded more like the voice of reason. Insanity indeed.
December 1, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Surely Huffington Post (and TPM's own Greg Sargent) didn't just invent the leaks from "Clinton insiders" that have been driving the media narrative for weeks!
At what point are we allowed to place responsibility for what happens in Hillaryland on Hillary?
You may disagree with the feeling, but an aversion to how Hillary Clinton handles business is not irrational.
December 2, 2008 12:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
There have been leaks about everyone of Obama's picks. Do you realize that, have you been paying attention? Just several days ago the press asked Obama about some of his picks and he answered, wait a minute none of those picks have been officially announced yet. Why is it that the only one's that upset some people is the one's about Hillary? The leaks about Obama's other picks were simply noted in the press while the leaks about Hillary drove a media narrative. Why? Why didn't the media obsess over the Raul Emmanuel leaks for a week? Why didn't they print dozens of stories about the Daschle leaks? So who's to be faulted that the leaks about Hillary have been the center of a media storm for days?
December 2, 2008 4:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
I can't help myself - I told you so. This is the infamous Clinton Rules at work.
December 2, 2008 8:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Arianna is a basket case - can't really figure out why she's a darling of the left except she's become something of an echo chamber unto herself.
Andrew just became so shrill I stopped reading him - perhaps he's chilled a bit, or it's just in comparison he looks good.
And what's odder is Hillary's famed enemies on the right seem to completely indifferent to her presence.
Gotta get back to reading - I think I just figured out my little girls can co-share the presidency until they turn 35 with no term limits, but have to re-read the clause one more time.
December 1, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Make sure to teach 'em all about pant suits & all those other Constitutional requirements.
You know... how to laugh, how to cry, who to marry, what to do with their last name when they do, what kinda dog to get, how to dance, how to drink whiskey.
Well, they'll probably figure that last one out on their own. But still. Gotta approach that glass ceiling juuuuuust right.
Not that I like HRC as SoS, but then again, I don't like Gates or Summers or Geithner either. Come to think of it, I wonder what kinda dogs THEY have. (N/Self: Critical Research Task #38 for Monday, 1/11/08. What kind of doggie in their windows?)
December 1, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking of glass, I hear she drinks her own pee. Where Wingnutia meets Progressosphere.
(N/Quinn: Critical Action Item #46 for Monday, 1/12/08. Change digital calendar.)
December 1, 2008 11:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yer lucky I got the '08 right. Only on Coffee #3.
Edit: Coffee #4.
December 1, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
(N/Quinn: Critical Action Item #1 for Monday whenever: Drink more bloody coffee, weekend's over.)
December 1, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Arianna is a TOTAL basket case - I don't really know why she's anyone's darling! She has this ability to make me want to change my mind just so I won't agree with her anymore ... sometimes I wonder if conservatives feel that way about Limbaugh.
BTW: Does the fact that the constitution rather explicitly defines it's protections as applying to men effect your scheme? Technically, if your daughters aren't men they can't serve in a constitutional office ... or am I off on this? I'm not sure I have the hang of your new system.
December 2, 2008 12:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, Des. :-)
December 1, 2008 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
IMO the Volokh guy is a sloppy thinker and flat out wrong. The O'Connor analysis was more thoughtful. The O'Connor idea that because it was a cost-of-living increase it's purpose was to avoid a net-decrease and maintain an equal financial benefit was interesting.
But I think both of them miss a point. Volokh makes the assertion that there is no legal distinction between legislative action and executive action taken pursuant to specific legislative authorization. Leaving the accuracy of the assertion aside, I'm still not sure it applies to this situation as Volokh asserts.
The law that caused all this: 5 U.S.C. § 5303 provides for an automatic annual increase in certain federal salaries, including the salary of the Secretary of State, unless the President certifies that an increase in salaries is inappropriate.
As written, an increase in salary doesn't seem to represent a decision by the president. The decision to give the raise was made explicit when the legislation passed; it is assumed granted. The president's authority is limited to acting as a brake to PREVENT the mandated increase from occurring. This is clearly intentional.
If the only authority granted to the president is that of refusal, how can it be said that his actions resulted in the increase? If you accept Volokh's view, we find ourselves in a paradox. This would seem to further support an assertion that the authorizing legislation caused the salary increase - year after year in a predictable fashion - at the time it was enacted. If this is the case, the raise was enacted well prior to Hillary joining the Senate.
Also, to accept the Volokh assertion you end up with an absurd result: no member of the Senate can ever serve an appointed federal position with mandated cost of living raises. Knowing that the legislation is in place, it can be assumed that in any given year all seated members of the Senate would be ineligible to serve in many appointed positions. Unless the clear intent of the clause was to prohibit all sitting Senators from appointed office, the Volokh reading is difficult to sustain.
I really think the argument that Hillary is constitutionally prohibited from serving seems like popycock hidden in fancy language.
December 2, 2008 1:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Willkommen nach Absurdistan.
December 2, 2008 4:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
All right Mr. De mille, I'm ready for my close up.
December 2, 2008 4:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've got it, a farm down under, a talking pig, the barn that Ruth built - we'll call it "Babe".
December 2, 2008 9:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
And viaduct exactly?
December 2, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dunno... Why a duck?
December 2, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
So-a you don't hit-a your head-a, e porchisano?
December 2, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
The post Desidero linked to at the Volokh Conspiracy is not Professor Volokh's position.
Professor V. also points out that a precedent dates back to the Administration of William Howard Taft, and has been invoked by both a Republican, as well as Democrat President since then.
It seems a bit hypocritical that persons who have argued for an almost imperious executive during the Bush Administration would suddenly use the Legislative Powers Article I as a means to decrease the Executive Powers of Article II., now that the President's Party has changed.
December 2, 2008 5:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not surprising, though.
December 2, 2008 7:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Funny. I always thought the Emollients Clause was sexist.
December 2, 2008 9:17 AM | Reply | Permalink