Message from Dad: Obama's Okay
Talked to Dad on Turkey Day, thought I’d see what he thought of the current situation, and to my surprise he spurted out, “I’m glad Obama’s in charge”. Well, some background - Dad’s rather Conservative Republican. Voted for Nixon once (couldn’t do it the 2nd time). Liked Reagan and the last I remember was defending Cheney quite a lot. Though stopped giving to Republicans when he saw the debts mounting and when they couldn’t stop the “no new taxes” mantra even in the face of a huge school shortfall. Suffice it to say Dad’s a bit of an ideologue but not a complete ideologue. And though Dad still voted McCain, his heart wasn’t in it, as he notes.
And while this is an anecdote, not a statistical survey, at least it’s something that says at least Obama’s veer to the right (or consistent driving to the right, depending on perspective) isn’t without some benefit. Because I’m largely inclined to believe that any sop tossed to the right is greeted with scorn and ridicule and just as an opening for another attack. But perhaps there are some fence-sitters out there who really do care about some economic and moral principles, who aren’t just delirious Rush fans looking at Democrats only as traitors and terrorists.
Now of course I’ll be happier when I see Gitmo closed, our troops heading out of Iraq, and something of a stabilized economy. I suppose there’s more I could ask for, but I never was into the hope and change stuff, just a return to normal mediocrity and mild outrage and I’ll be happy.
And Dad’ll probably be happy not having to listen to this.





Why can't Obama be seen as someone who is doing what is right for the country instead of this Left, Center, Right nonsense? He will be President of all Americans, so many of you on the Left better be prepared for more "disappointments."
November 29, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Co-Sign.
November 29, 2008 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
My belief is that by the time Obama leaves the White House, all future presidents will be judged based on their ability to rise above the politics of the two parties, regardless of their own party affiliation, and govern the country like Obama.
November 29, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, that would certainly be nice.
November 29, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bad Desidero, inflicting Jane's Addiction on your dad!
November 29, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
He hasn't been the same since I got caught stealing.
November 29, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
STOP!
November 29, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ain't no right.
November 29, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
But Jane says!
November 29, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cut it out, you two, or else I'll....
November 29, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have it covered.
And if not, this baby does.
November 29, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for sharing, Des. This is the trend that gives me hope that eventually we can dispense with ideology in favor of common sense, no matter what labels one chooses to describe the changes. As anew08 says, Obama being known as the American president is much more important this year than maintaining our battle stations for another four or eight years.
November 29, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Funny, I talked to my dad the day before Thanksgiving. I usually don't talk politics because he used to be a FOX "news" junkie and a life-long republican.
He asked me what I was doing on election night. I said 'Why do you ask?' (I was knocking on doors).
He said I was DJing the celebration party at Obama headquarters in Lake County IN.
I fell off my chair. We then proceeded to have the first conversation in my life in which my father and I agreed on the state of our country. The leadership in place. The necessity of citizen participation in govt... etc.
Miracles do happen!
November 29, 2008 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Desidaro, this is a great post. My dad's also a conservative Republican, so I can totally relate. Also, I'm with Jason Everett Miller all the way, too. I don't see--and never have seen--Obama as left or right, progressive or centrist. I have always seen him as a pragmatist. He knows that the only way to implement true change is to reach out to those who appear to disagree with you the most and find common ground, so that things happen, instead of standing there screaming at each other. (Anybody who's ever raised kids should know that simple skill.)
I was just saying to my moderate Rep husband (who voted Obama and defends him to his conservative friends), that the same people who, just a few short weeks ago, were bawling that Obama was a socialist, a radical, even a terrorist--are now saying that, whaddya know, he seems to be actually SENSIBLE.
My sincere hope will be that as time passes and his calm, capable leadership takes hold, that a real backlash will occur within the Rep party base, (not the right wing, mind you), that they will start to think...Geez, they LIED to us when they said he was a raving nutcase. Maybe we need to pay more attention to the other side for a change...
November 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
We talked about Obama at my brother's house on Thanksgiving, about half of us concerned he was shapping up into Clinton revisited and the rest hopeful he could strengthen his political control and pursue whatever policies without much compromise.
November 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm so encouraged to read all of the never-thought-it-would-happen stories of political minds changing. Thanks for sharing.
November 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I come from a long line of Republican businessmen, ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN0oDnoc3-c ) and saw a similar shift in my Dads' endorsement of 'all things Republican' after the 2004 election. While he too voted for McCain, his support was tepid at best and not because McCain wasn't conservative enough for him. My feeling is that BHO is going to help unite all but the single issue voters and R ideologues in facing the challenges we face as a nation and a world. Too bad we didn't have someone so inclined in power during the last 4 years. The "veer to the right" will hopefully frame some of the debate in meaningful discussion rather than the usual polarized blather.
As an aside, it's interesting to see how many of us here came from Republican households. I know my Dad has always wondered how he came to father three Democratic children.
November 29, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is possible to be a liberal and a delirious Rush fan at the same time.
;-)
November 29, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Only in the sense of being a Dr. Demento or Ed Wood fan.
November 29, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like this post!!
My right-leaning Indie sister last weekend put it this way: "I voted for McCain, but he lost and Obama won. Therefore, Obama is now my President. And as such, he earns my respect and has my prayers. I hope he does a good job. We need a good person in office right now."
I couldn't have said it better myself.
November 29, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Des, I too was surprised yesterday when someone who was so pro Hillary that he turned against Obama and voted for mcCain (he's a guy in his 70's), with no prompting whatsoever told me he's delighted with our president (as if he was already inaugurated!).
Things like this are cause for hope. And I can see ways that, through providing lots of opportunities for Americans to volunteer or serve in some way, that barriers may fall in the process. I definitely sense a difference with greater harmony between the races. And I hope we ultimately see that same harmony erasing the "marriage" line in the sand.
November 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is something interesting going on, for sure. Thanksgiving gave all of us time to see family and friends who might not share our political beliefs. For me, I had friends from Michigan visit us in Maryland, just outside D.C. Both families have sons deployed. These Michiganders are longtime Republicans, Reagan Democrats who have not been able to make their way back to the Democratic Party. But this time they did, in part because they have a son in the Army and they live in a state suffering more from Bush policies than perhaps any other state. At dinner, they asked if they could drive back from Detroit for the Inauguration and stay with us. They asked if we could house their whole family (10 people in all!) and we said, "Yes, we can!"
November 29, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
:)
You rock!
November 29, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Bwakfat. How goes you?
November 29, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
cock-eyed?
Sounds like you had a nice thanksgiving. I'm so glad.
November 29, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Back at you. Nice as it could be with a child in Kabul. There's that empty chair. But very thankful regardless. Good time of year to be a chicken, except in this economy. Squawk!
November 29, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cool, Quinn has about 73 in his immediate family, and I have about 54 (at least from the ones we can count for sure and who aren't permanent wards of the state), so can we hole up in your digs for the next 10 months or so? Bush has us so down we can hardly afford our Mercedes payments.
November 29, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now, you're acting greedy.
November 29, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, not at all - I can write a whole tome on acting greedy. This is quite modest, just trying to live within your means.
November 29, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, if you and Quinn and families promise to chip in, you are all welcome here. Room at the inn, and all that. I don't make distinctions about who is a ward of the state and who is biological. The only thing is, the greater the numbers, the quality of the meals goes down. But if gruel is ok, I'm ok with it.
November 29, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like gruel
November 29, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Somehow I knew you would. You, too, are welcome.
November 29, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
My own Goldwater/Nixon/Reagan Republican dad went rogue when George Bush ran in 2000. Pre Obama, his favorite Dem was Howard Dean. This fall, he enjoyed sporting his "Republican For Obama" ballcap on the links @ the tony countryclub he belongs to.
(The Republicans he knows are former HP colleagues and the party elites hooked into Stanford/ George Shultz circles)
Even more radical, citing his lifelong Republican bonfides, he wrote a letter to DiFI urging her to do whatever to overturn Prop 8 on my lesbian cousin's behalf.
I wonder about the conversations he's having with his GOP pals, now.
November 29, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bully for him Lally! Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks? I wish my own Dad were still alive. He would have loved Obama. He died in 2003, just in enough time to see what damage his Republican Party was doing to the country. Broke his heart. I know he would have voted Obama, I just now it.
November 29, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
know*
November 29, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
reminds me of my grandmother. One of the staunchest republicans ever. At 92 she was sharp and kicking strong, watching fox news and trying to get her assisted living friends into investing and voting.
Then the republican party dropped her:
First literally. Two strong young men escorted her to, and lifted her into a behemoth SUV, then drove her to a Republican fund raising dinner, then opened the door and watched her tumble to the street.
Second ideologically. she had a conversation with my cousin about the current administration and stated more than once "I don't see how this is conservative". Color left her face during the conversation, never to return.
November 29, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
KateO.
Sorry about your dad.
I have the same conviction that my long-deceased grandparents who raised my father Republican would have have voted for Obama, too. It's a values, as opposed to the VALUES, thing.
November 29, 2008 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
All this pap for Obama has me sick, I'd expect the natural anti-establishmentarian opposition to speak up more. Obama got elected, he deserves some solid patriotic support but what happened to the "critical" in the left?
Why aren't I finding posters concerned over Obama's apparent inclination to keep troops in Iraq twice as long as he promised? How come critical lefties aren't complaining about his unwillingness to endorse huge tax hikes on millionaires right away?
I'll let it slide for now, but once he gets installed I expect to hear some noises from those lefties.
November 29, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
When did Obama say that he wanted to keep our troops in Iraq for a longer period than he promised? And what happened to the "critical" left? - Are you kidding? Are you knew to this website or any Liberal/Progressive website? Ever since the day AFTER Obama was elected there have been a lot of criticism over what Obama hasn't done yet or over the little bit that he has.
November 30, 2008 12:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
How about click on my name and read 2/3 of my posts.
November 30, 2008 3:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
You are a trip.
November 30, 2008 3:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
"by the time Obama leaves the White House, all future presidents will be judged based on their ability to rise above the politics of the two parties"
Unadulterated baloney, what on earth would make anyone think Obama's post-electoral conduct in any way suggests the slightest inclination to rise above the politics of the 2 parties? Give us a single example showing he intends to accomodate conservative concerns.
November 29, 2008 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Conservative? Or progressive? I think there's lots of hope for not-too-far-fetched conservatives. We'll see ont he other side.
November 30, 2008 3:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Umm.....Lieberman?
Umm.....not indicting Bush and Cheney for anything?
Umm.....have you read "The Audacity of Hope"?
Umm.....where were you several months ago when we coulda really loved chewing you up into little pieces?
Umm.....whatever.
November 30, 2008 3:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I dreaded the trek down to the annual meeting of the fam at Thanksgiving...This election cycle has had us at odds with our family and I was none too thrilled to be going down there and listening to all the bull about how much trouble the country was going to be in under the new administration.
Miracle of miracles, I think someone had a talk w/ the Patriarch and forbid any political discussions. Out of the 35 of us there, we managed to discover that there were 3 other Obama supporters at the gathering and we quietly celebrated...all in all a successful day.
November 29, 2008 11:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Glad to hear it, Still. There is hope, still.
November 30, 2008 3:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Coming from a very large family we have significantly diverse views on all of this and it creates problems. One thing does stand out though. The size of our family has us covering the gamut of economic strata and to see how that organizes us into the two camps is disturbing. The other thing that markedly contributes to this is our educational backgrounds. There are almost 100 of us in a small geographical area and we cherish our time together but many topics are simply off bounds. We have lawyers, doctors, civil service employees, factory workers, entrepreneurs, religious diversity, hourly wage earners and some who barely get by. Some are in their 80's and 90's with a lot nearing retirement and a huge group in their mid twenties to forty who are raising families. It's quite a mess. There is no common bond except blood. We get together every Christmas in a mass get together and there are a lot of hugs and tears. I wouldn't trade it for the world.
November 30, 2008 6:37 AM | Reply | Permalink