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THE ART OF UNDERESTIMATING OBAMA


When George W. Bush took office in January of 2001, Talking Points Memo did not exist.

Huffington Post did not exist.

Buzzflash.com did not exist.  (Update: Buzzflash.com did exist, as of May of 2000, the first that I know of.)

Keith Olberman did not yet have a political program on MSNBC.

Rachel Maddow did not yet have a political program on MSNBC.

That Ed guy for sure didn't yet.

However, FOX news, Rush Limbaugh, and many of the other Lords of the Right-Wing Air dominated discourse, drove the political narrative, and basically provided a controversy-free platform for anything and everything the Republican president wanted to do with his Republican congress. 

In fact, they made it their business--or I should say, busine$$--viciously attacking anyone who DARED oppose their god and savior, Bush, and his wondrous disciples, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al.  To disagree even on minor points was to indulge in "Bush-Bashing."

Most people don't remember this, but Bush's first few months in office were so unremarkable that most pundits didn't think he'd last past a first term.  Once he and his minions had rammed through massive tax cuts for all their buddies and benefactors, Bush drifted along, musing about Star Wars and privatizing Social Security, while his evil twin, Karl Rove, moved into the West Wing and set about politicizing the entire government.

Once 9/11 happened, the Lords of the Right-Wing Air freaked out along with their paranoid political bosses, sketching nightmare scenarios, shoving wars and rumors of wars down the country's collective throat with nary a voice, except for maybe Al Franken, to stop them. 

(Rembember, Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot and Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them?)

When I first started prowling around, looking for sympathetic sites other than just the DNC, it was during the presidential campaign of 2004, and Talking Points Memo was just getting cranked up.  HuffPo didn't exist yet.  Buzzflash was already out there, along with a few others, like Media Matters.  Keith Olberman had gotten underway. 

And of course, Jon Stewart, God bless him.

(This is by no means meant to be a comprehensive list, believe me, and I'm not providing links and specific dates because this is just an opening, not the point of the post.  I'm getting there.  Bear with me.)

As their first term waned, Bush/Cheney and their wars and their spying on Americans had finally awakened a sleeping giant, and the pushback came very near to unseating him that November. 

(Stealing Ohio helped.  But I digress.)

By 2006 the outrages had spiraled damn near out of control.  From New Orleans to Abu Ghraib, there was virtually no part of this planet that had not been royally screwed by that administration in one way or another, and the Internet became, for those of us to the left of the aisle, what talk-radio and television had been for the right in the 90's.

In 2007, when the presidential campaign got underway, opposition to All Things Right-Wing was in full-throated howl, and during the contentious contest between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, I noticed a trend among not just pundits and pollsters and pontificators, but also among politicians--of underestimating Obama.

In the beginning, they positively sneered.

While everyone acknowledged his public speaking gifts, they also mocked them, claiming that his inspirational speeches were "just words" and that he was basically a brash young upstart.

It wasn't racism so much as it was the classic, "Go away, kid.  Ya bother me."

I saw it, from the beginning, as a generational showdown.  In her final column for Newsweek, Anna Quindlan mentioned something her grown son had said regarding baby boomers in various careers:  "You guys just don't quit."

What he meant was that baby boomers were clutching the levers of power in their cold, dead hands, so to speak, and were not letting go so that the next generation could step up and take their places.  You see the truth of this in the Sunday morning news talk shows--most of the people sitting around a given table on-set are 50 and over.

Quinlan said she didn't want to be one of those people, so she was letting go so that some bright young voice could take her place.  (Although I haven't noticed Newsweek's moving in that direction as of yet.)

Obama's methods of running a campaign were revolutionary, 21st century stuff--that is common knowledge now, and is being mimicked in elections all over the world.

But all through it, time and time again, he was not taken seriously.  Even after he finally won the nomination, McCain and his people spoke of him in derisive, dismissive terms.

And when Obama won with a powerful mandate, there was this massive sort of clanking of the old gears of government, oiled by the grumblings of a whole set of congresspeople and senators and governors and lobbyists and--most especially--columnists and op-edders and pundits and pontificators...who just could not seem to believe it.

(So entrenched was this view that the lunatic fringe even invented a scenario where he didn't DESERVE to have the office he'd won in such a hard-fought way, because, after all, he's not REALLY one of us, is he?  Not a REAL American, like Sarah Palin.  It was all apparently some kind of gigantic conspiracy involving doctors, nurses, and state officials in Hawaii to cover up his fake birth certificate because they somehow knew that the little black baby with a white mama and a father who left town would somehow grow up to be president more than 40 years later.)

But what makes Obama's job so much more difficult, actually, is that Democrats, unlike Republicans, do not march in lock-step with a top-down directive on What to Believe Today. 

Instead, they're as likely to shout at each other as they are to right-wingers.

I turned on the "Ed Show" the other day and he was practically spitting in his excitement over health care, saying that if it did not get passed with a public option, that we would need to "form a third party" because this one was too conservative for liberals like him.

I'm not arguing his point one way or the other.  I'm simply using it as an example of the broad spectrum of points of view within the Democratic party.  Some "Blue Dogs" are actually conservative enough to be Republicans; some moderates can swing either way, and some liberals are just as rabid in their all-or-nothing ideals as the right-wingers are of theirs.

What that means is that, on any given day, you can turn on Glenn Beck over at FOX news and see Obama raked over the coals for being weak on national security or being dictatorial on his domestic plans, and then switch over to Rachel Maddow and see him attacked for being "too much like Bush" in matters of national security or too weak in implementing his domestic program.

Opposite criticisms for the same policies!

In my memory, I've never seen a president under such an assault of constant criticism from all sides, on one thing or another, in all the years I've been following politics.  (I have a journal I kept in high school where I was fretting over something LBJ had done, so that's been a while.)

The most amazing thing of all, to me, is that this 24-hour barrage of criticism, complaint, and counterargument has led to a sort of hyper-speed, where time seems to whip past so fast it's in a basic blur.  We're all connected, all the time.  Texts and Tweets and e-mails and constantly-changing news sites like Huffington Post are now just a touch away on the phones that fit in our pockets, and no matter whether it is a straight news site like the New York Times or a political site like Firedoglake, we are invited to express our opinions on a given matter.

And what that means is that, four months into a brand-new administration, one that inherited such a staggering plethora of constant crises both here and overseas, not seen since FDR took the oath, it seems that, on any given issue, if Obama has not YET fulfilled a campaign promise or brought about a historic and legendary piece of legislation or turned the economy completely around--well then, he's just a failure.

Josh Marshall poked fun of that mindset right after the election when, after 18 months of 24/7 campaign coverage, he took a week off with his family, and returned with a headline that said something like, "OBAMA IS A FAILURE," joking that, in a week's time, he'd already been pronounced DONE by the hyped-up pundits coming down from an adrenaline-rushed campaign-combat high.

So, really, it took the Republicans no time at all to be pronouncing his entire presidency a dismal failure--even before that first, arbitrary 100-day deadline had passed.

In that time, Obama signed a cascade of landmark legislation dealing with every kind of issue you can name, but they passed in a blur with little notice before the next big controversy.

Some say he has brought this on himself by insisting on time constraints for so many of the staggering problems facing this nation.

I mean, geez, it's so cruel and unusual, the punishment visited on congress--why, under Bush, they only had to work three-day weeks.  NOW they've actually got to show up some weekends!  The horror!  The horror!

So he gets criticized for moving too slowly on some issues, too quickly on some, for doing too much and not doing enough, for being too weak and too strong on the same issues, and time and again, I read these snide op-eds or blogposts about how he's already blown it.

They're even claiming that the poor hapless voters who put their trust in this man are somehow already suffering from "buyer's remorse."

(Oh yeah.  IF ONLY we'd put John McCain and Sarah Palin in office instead!  I hear that all the time, don't you?)

It has been said that Obama plays chess while the rest of us play checkers; this is true, but inadequate to explain his methods completely.  There are two articles I've seen today that provide a whole new perspective on Obama's method of governing.

One really strikes a nerve on how Obama represents a next-generation way of looking at things.  (Not for nothing that whenever he gives a speech in a foreign country, he bypasses the rulers in the audience and speaks directly to the nation's young people.)

It's by Matt Bai, who has done several major pieces on Obama for the New York Times Magazine, and it's called "The Shuffle President."

In it, Bai examines what he calls the typical "dramatic narrative" of any incoming president, one in which the new guy comes in with a new agenda, and proceeds to tackle his biggest, signature issue first, which he (or someday, she) concentrates the majority of their "political capital" on one major legacy, for better or for worse.  For Bush, it was tax cuts.  For Clinton, it was health care.  That kind of thing.  Those issues define a president, and conventional wisdom is that if they fail in that first big thing, then the rest of their presidency will be a wash.  (I could argue that Clinton's presidency accomplished a great deal, but that's another post.)

Obama has, of course, done no such thing.  He's fought for climate change legislation, health care, finance regulations, public stimulus plans, ending one war and redesigning another, and so on.  All of which has brought on a firestorm of criticism for doing too much, too fast.

Bai says such an outlook may be outdated:

Some of this itinerancy must be attributed to the sheer scope of the wreckage Obama inherited. When you've got failing banks and corporate giants, two ongoing wars, melting icecaps and mountainous health care costs, it's hard to see what gets pushed to the margins. It's also true, though, that Obama's style reflects, whether he means it to or not, a cultural shift on the importance of narrative. Americans acclimated to clicking around hundreds of cable channels or Web pages experience the world less chronologically than their parents did. The most popular books now -- business guides like "Good to Great" or social explorations like "The Tipping Point" -- allow the casual reader to absorb their insights in random order or while skimming whole chapters.

Once we listened to cohesive albums like, say, Bob Dylan's "Highway 61 Revisited," which kicked off with the snare hit of "Like a Rolling Stone," almost like a starter pistol, and worked its way toward the melancholy postscript of "Desolation Row." Now your iPod might jump mindlessly from "Desolation Row" to "Tombstone Blues," or from Dylan to Rihanna. The shrink-wrapped record has given way to the downloaded single. Wasn't this one reason for all the tributes to Michael Jackson? It's not that "Thriller" was really as singularly awesome as so many of us thought it was in high school. It's more that we know there may never be an album that epic again.

Obama is the nation's first shuffle president. He's telling lots of stories at once, and in no particular order. His agenda is fully downloadable. If what you care most about is health care, then you can jump right to that. If global warming gets you going, then click over there. It's not especially realistic to imagine that politics could cling to a linear way of rendering stories while the rest of American culture adapts to a more customized form of consumption. Obama's ethos may disconcert the older guard in Washington, but it's probably comforting to a lot of younger voters who could never be expected to listen to successive tracks, in the same order, over and over again.

Bai acknowledges the risks in  this approach--and poll ups-and-downs reflect that.  Some Americans, and their elected representatives, struggle to keep up--as does an exhausted White House staff.  And some accomplishments, like the landmark Lilly Ledbetter Act, pretty much get quickly covered up with the next bill that gets signed or speech given.

But there may be more of a method to Obama's attention-deficit madness than most people grasp.  E.J. Dionne cut through the clutter pretty decisively in this piece in the Washington Post, "Why Obama Likes His Odds."

Again, this is a generational thing--not in terms of years, but in terms of congress, literally:

It was not the soaring rhetoric that is Barack Obama's signature, but he recently offered the sound bite that may define his presidency: "Don't bet against us."

There are reasons to believe that his confident words -- they were about health-care reform but have broader application -- were not the bombast of a bluffer exaggerating the strength of his hand. They reflect the high cards that Obama holds and has only now started to play.

Of course, no one ever thought passing a health-care bill would be easy, and the effort hit some bumps last week over costs and how to cover them.

But Obama doesn't quite see things the way his more nervous Democratic allies do because he missed the years in Washington during which his party was beaten down. Many Democrats had their perceptions of political reality shaped by the failure of Bill Clinton's health proposal, the 1994 Republican revolution and the GOP's triumphalism during President Bush's first term.

That world, however, turned upside down in 2005 -- the year Obama arrived in Washington. Bush's power dissolved in the failure of his Social Security privatization proposal, the Hurricane Katrina backlash and rising disillusionment with the Iraq war. By the end of 2006, less than two years after Obama's arrival, Democrats had seized control of both houses of Congress.

The paradox is that Obama's limited experience under Republican sway makes him more comfortable than many of his allies are with wielding the power that comes from large Democratic majorities.

And it's real power.

Dionne makes an excellent point in his piece, that Democrats were pretty much battered and bruised under 12 years of Republican abuse.  When you have a respected Democratic congressman who left two legs and an arm in the jungles of Vietnam and ran the Veteran's Administration under President Jimmy Carter--Max Cleland--get attacked in political ads for not being patriotic enough, and DEFEATED because of it, then you have only a HINT of the kind of battering Democrats in congress were accustomed to when they first tentatively took over in 2006.

Some of them have not held positions of power for many years, and some of them never have.  Some are still intimidated by right-wingers who once pummeled them in the polls.

"The only things fellow Democrats...have to fear are the fears and insecurities bred into them when they were a battered minority," writes Dionne.  "Obama is free of those doubts because he never knew them."

There are other ways Obama is often underestimated.  The fact that he is willing to listen to all points of view--even encourages this--is often mistaken as a sign of some kind of weakness, as if he has no core values of his own and must try on others to see if they fit.

There is no weakness in considering all points of view, adopting those that are the most pragmatic and workable, and discarding those that are not.  But in the end, it is one man who makes the decisions, and it's a mistake to think that he somehow lacks the strength of character to stand by those decisions.

Much has been made of how the Obama administration studied the Clinton health-care plan and analyzed what went wrong in implementing it, but Clinton's is not the only presidency Obama has looked at.  In a piece in the Washington Post, Ceci Connolly examines how the Obama administration actually STUDIED LBJ's shepherding of Medicare through congress in 1965.

Most people wouldn't see much similarity between the Ivy League-educated, urbane, soft-spoken Obama and the crude, loudmouth, ornery Texan--but actually, there are similarities.  Both came out of the U.S. Senate and both understood how congress worked, and how to "work" congress to get things done. 

Since getting back from his overseas trip, Obama has put on a full-court press behind and in front of the scenes, inviting scores of congresspeople and senators to the White House for arm-twisting sessions, giving speeches and press conferences and YouTube addresses and, as he proved today, moving swiftly to capitalize on mistakes made by the opposition.

When South Carolina's dimwitted senator, Jim DeMint, made the mistake of chortling on-mic that if the Republicans could "shut down" Obama on health care, it would be his "Waterloo" and would "break him," Obama was quick to respond in a rapid-fire soundbite, that health care was not about HIM, not about politics, but that it was "breaking American families." 

Look at headlines on blogposts or op-eds, and already they're talking about how Obama is "struggling," how this is make-or-break time, how the plan is "unraveling" and how this titanic battle could bring down the ship of state.

It makes good drama.  Makes a good story.  I used to tell good stories for a living.  I understand the power of sustaining suspense, of keeping the reader breathlessly turning pages until the big climax.

We are a nation who loves our heroic narratives and our high drama, whether it be so-called "reality TV" or sports or the latest political contest.  We like competition and suspense.  We like to see the good guy win and the bad guy stomped.

And in recent years, we like to express our opinions, loudly and often.  That's fine.  It's democracy as it was meant to be.

But none of that, ultimately, has a whole helluva lot to do with President Obama and how he governs.  Like most pragmatists, he understands that the perfect is the enemy of the good, and that in any compromise, everybody is going to be a little bit disappointed.  The more set in your views, the more disappointed you will be.

But he didn't run for president so that he could spend the next four years running for president, as Bush did, and four years after that trying to lock in Republican power in all three branches of government.

He ran to govern.

Governing is tense and messy but good governing gets results.  Those who underestimate Barack Obama do so because they are writing a dramatic narrative in their heads that he does not fit, and so they dismiss him.

But Barack Obama has thrown out that old construct and shuffled the entire medium, hurling it into a fresh, new, 21st century story, a story in which all the senses are engaged at all times, the action is fast, the results, unexpected. 

In that story, history is respected, but not relived.

It's kind of like the difference between, say, an old Vaudeville variety show...and Cirque de Soleil.

Groundbreakers, trendsetters, and visionaries are always underestimated when they first burst onto the scene, whether it be in science, the arts, or politics.  Throughout history, such men and women have even been imprisoned or put to death because they and their way of looking at the world are so different from most.

This is because people fear change, even when the old way made them miserable.  Most of the rage we observe nowadays on blogs and talk shows and so on are simply a mask to cover fear.  

There is a lot in the world today that we fear, and a great deal of expectation we've put on the shoulders of one skinny guy.  It's easy to think it's just too tough for ANYONE to solve and that, ultimately, all is lost, that any time he makes a mistep, he's about to be hurled into the abyss, and along with him, our hopes and dreams.

We underestimate him and his team, though, at our own peril.  He's proved that time and again.  Those who do underestimate Obama often compare him to other presidents, in other times, at other points in history.

It might be smarter to compare him to HIMSELF.  Where he's been.  How far he's come.  What he's accomplished so far.  What he's working to accomplish in the future.

And how those same people sneered at him when he first ran for president.

Back when I was barely a teen and the Beatles burst onto the scene, I would spend every dime I could earn babysitting for 50 cents an hour on Beatles records and Beatle's memorabilia.

After about six months of this, my mother put her foot down and forbade me to buy anything else Beatles-related.  Not records.  Not magazines.  Nothin'.  Not even with my own money that I had earned babysitting in the neighborhood.

Her reasoning?

"They're just a fad," she declared.  "A silly fad.  Six months from now they'll be gone and somebody else will take their place.  You are not wasting another dime of your money on those stupid Beatles."

Now, last week, my husband and daughter and I, on a company trip to Las Vegas, took in the unimaginably wonderful Cirque de Soleil show, LOVE, based on the Beatles, their history, their time, and their music.  It was two hours of a fabulous phastasmagoria of color and light and sound and that glorious music.  The specially-built ampitheater was sold out, on a weeknight, and it's been, what?  Several years now, since the show opened.

I'm not very good at arithmetic, but I'd say it's been about 45 years since my mother pronounced the Beatles "a fad."

Nope, I wouldn't bet against Obama, either.


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Yep, there are many people, on the right and the left, and even here at the allegedly progressive TPM, that misunderestimate the man. That's ok by me as long as he gets the job done. Lots of people think they are smarter than him, yes, even people here at TPM, but I tend to doubt it. Smart people don't have to show off. Plain and simple.

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Correctomundo

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Nice essay, but just for the record, BuzzFlash.com was founded and has been running 24/7 since May of 2000, well before the stolen election.

Mark Karlin
Editor and Publisher
BuzzFlash.com

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Mark, I've added an update with your correction. Again, mea culpa.

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Sorry, Mark, I'm a long-time subscriber to and supporter of Buzzflash. I knew they'd been there the longest and should have made that point clear!

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This is completely how I feel. Barack is all over so many things & I truly believe that he is not only the best hope but "the" hope we all wanted & were waiting for. Kinda like your team getting the #1 draft pick. He's still getting his feet wet & learning fast about the realities of tired, old Washinton DC. He is our "public option" & to me there isn't any other at this point. I mean, would anybody seriously go back to where we were or actually want to see McCain/Palin in action? I'm in for the full 8 years & the promising future candidates he will inspire.
I believe I too underestimate him due to bad conditioning. At the same time I have very high expectations.

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Lessee, we're 6 months into the new presidency, not 4 months.

Obama may say he'll listen to everyone, but he told progressives to sit down and stop whining pretty quickly while he held meetings with conservatives.

If you look back at Daily Howler archives from January 2007, you'll find some references to commentators discussing how well Obama would do, and notes that once he entered the race that month he was polling near equal with Clinton and McCain. The myth that Obama was ignored or nay-sayed is just that. There was a lot of Hillary hatred to counter her lead in fund raising, and Obama was a darling since 2004. Getting around his lack of experience for a 2008 run was skillful.

Criticism from this end on the stimulus was it was too weighted to tax cuts, not enough, and wouldn't be spent quickly enough. The French designed theirs with less Republican consensus and seem to be doing alright.

Being "pragmatic" on torture and CIA has meant pretending the Uyghurs who remain jailed are too dangerous terrorists to release, resisting releasing records we need to see, and fostering anti-Constitutional methods such as "pre-emptive detainment". Being "pragmatic" on the Mideast means we're now sending more soldiers to Afghanistan to nation build in a barbaric wasteland that we now amusingly/sadly call essential to our security. Exit plan? None.

Mortgage component to the Wall Street bailout? More "pragmatic" - resisted cramdown and its current assistance isn't even reaching homeowners.

Bush screwed Chrysler in his response to them. Obama sealed the deal.

But don't underestimate Obama - maybe health care reform will turn out to be useful.

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If Obama is brought low, it will not be by a right wing conspiracy, they will just be vultures there to pick up the pieces.

Obama inherits a country that has come to the end one period of its history, but hasn't quite entered the next

We are not talking about "change we can believe in", we are talking about disaster management.

Things have practically unraveled already; they were unraveling before Bush, but he has accelerated the process by about twenty years. Without military credibility and endless shopping, the USA is going to see its "way of life" implode.

If Obama can get a real European/Canadian style medical service he will have done well. I doubt that he will even be able to do that because Congress is too corrupt.

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I would just add, that the USA today, contradictions and conflicts, warts and all, is what we have all made it... day by day and year by year. Paraphrasing Donald Rumsfeld, "you don't go with the country you want, you go with the country you have".

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Leesee the Democratic nomination ended in August of 2008. Fighting a fight that ended nearly a year ago ain't gonna change the results. No matter how much one jumps up and down and pulls out a full head of hair, the results will remain the same.

It's ovah!

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Certainly you are right, the Democratic nomination was sewn up in August of 2008 and I imagine the next Democratic nomination is already sewn up... However, getting nominated and elected doesn't mean it's "ovah", it means, quite the contrary, that it is only just beginning.

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...but most certainly I am referring to the nomination. I just don't why some keep ligating something that isn't gonna change? It is waste of energy.

So there is no argument about the fight in front of us. Right in front of our faces.

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Good post and I agree with your central point. One quible jumps out. Comparing BHO's to LBJ's Senate carriers is.. well you can't compare them. Obama was a junior senator who didn't finish a term. Johnson served from 1949-1961 ('37-'49 in the House) with six years as majority leader. Not to take anything away from Obama but LBJ had a lot of expierience in the arm twisting department.

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Some missteps for sure, but I believe the man is honestly trying to keep his promises and is doing so by looking at the "big picture" - one that we tend to miss for the menagerie of conflicting little pictures foisted on us every minute of evrey day.

While Obama's peering at the future through a telescope, we're preoccupied with a pinhole camera.

Am keeping the faith...

Thanks so much for your post.

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Brilliant, Deanie absolutely brilliant!

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"Every day that I'm in office and every day I push my program, I'll be losing part of my ability to be influential, because that's in the nature of what the President does. He uses up capital."

—Lyndon Baines Johnson

I think this post underestimates reality and the unromantic truth of Johnson's observation.

Sorry, but Obama's honeymoon period is over. Time's a-wastin'.

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Absolutely correct!

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Obama should have been pushing hard for a public option months ago. He still isn't pushing hard for it, and recently told MoveOn.org to stop criticizing Democrats who oppose a public option.

Now Obama is making a big public push for "health care reform" in a very vague sense, and "even employing an army of bloggers."

My hunch is that it's all calculated to place blame for the inevitable pro-HMO, pro-Pharma "health care reform" that is eventually passed on Congress.

OBAMA STILL HASN'T COME OUT STRONG FOR A PUBLIC OPTION, AND OPPOSED EFFORTS THAT SUPPORTED ONE!

Now we'll likely see cuts in Medicare and tax raises to pay for HMO and Big Pharma price gouging, and Teflon Obama won't lose any cred with his fan club.

It's just like TARP. Somebody else gets the blame, and giant campaign contributors reap the benefits, and the regressive status quo is maintained.

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Depressing, eh? "Army of bloggers" my ass. If he'd stop trying to marginalize MoveOn and try to work with them, maybe he'd have an effective internet presence. But he's been too busy deconstructing the structures that helped put him where he is. Don't want anyone else climbing up that ladder, do we?

I'm watching the posts today about how the stimulus is failing because the entrenched resistance made him back off. Funny, I thought he was catering to that resistance back then in the name of "bipartisanship" and was busy telling MoveOn and the dirty hippies to back off. Seems like it'll be a recurring story, how the dog ate my homework.

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MoveOn has no street cred with people in the middle... and for good reason. You may agree with their politics but they they have been sloppy in the past and don't have a reputation as, say, the NAACP.

Here, Obama knows what he is doing. He needs the middle. That's how he won the election. That's why he is trying to keep and mobilize the organization he created when he ran for the presidency.

But, unfortunately, this type of cleverness can only be done once. Next time around, the GOP will have the equivalent. And now you will have mobilized chunks of the populace into the "personal arm" of the White House. This will bring the present screaming matches shown on TV as "political debate" into the streets.

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Obama said in his radio/YouTube address Sat. that he would not accept a health care plan without a public option. He can't be much more plain than that.

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You know Deanie you just flat out amaze me every single time you post. No wonder you get some play in the MSM.

"(Rembember, Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot and Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them?)"

I bought all three in this series. I have one left but went to the library to review them a couple years ago. It was like there was only one guy speaking TO ME.

Keith O was discovered by accident one day. He was throwing paper into the camera as I channel surfed. I waited for the commercials to end and
WOW. WHERE IN THE F...DID THIS GUY COME FROM?

War, what the hell are we doing in this war anyway? It has been 765 days since victory was declared....

There was no hope. There was no clarity of thought, no truth....

Thank you for this. Really!!! I could go on for ten more pages....

Maybe I will in a month or so. But you do it so damn well, there really is no need right now.

Ha!!! thank you so much.

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Where did Keith O come from?

Unfortunately, from the same rating waters that spawned Bill OReilly.

What we need to find is someone spawned in the waters of Walter Cronkite. But that would require a network to recognize that news is a public trust and not a profit making wing of their organization.

And that would require the electorate to want to be educated rather than entertained.

Make no mistake: news has been turned into a spectator sport today with various people merely cheering for "their team."

Olberman, Meadows, etc. are no more journalists than OReilly, Matthews, Hannity, Couric, et al.

Probably the last real journalist we've seen on television is Ted Koppel.

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HEY, the fascists got rid of Koppel.

Keith O is the man who finds truths in the bucket of manure that is put out there by the nazi monkeys who run this country. He does the best job around

Frankly, I think the 'evening news' should be read by Lawrence O'Donnel

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Keith O is the man who finds truths in the bucket of manure that is put out there by the nazi monkeys who run this country.

This is exactly the type of "non-dialog" that I referred to that doesn't educate the electorate.

PS If a GOP said this, I wonder how many would think: run the country? monkey? Did he just call Obama a monkey? RACIST!

(Yes, that's my point.)

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THE GOP HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OF INTEREST TO SAY TO ME.

I listened to those bastards lie day after day, hour after hour for eight years.

THERE ARE NO TRUTHS COMING FROM THOS NAZI BASTARDS

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I really wish you read my comment carefully before you went off into hyperspace to respond. I never said the GOP had "anything to say to you." You may want to reread, Dick.

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I wouldn't disagree with your analysis but I would put it another way. Obama just understands that there is a fundamental separation between elite opinion as it is expressed in the MSM and broader public opinion. And he also understands that before interactive media and the web national politicians and the MSM could ignore that separation and impose its will on the nation’s agenda. But with the web he understands that the public has both the means to finding broader and deeper truths and the means to imposing its will on the political agenda.

But I think it goes deeper than that. Watch the major documentaries of Adam Curtis broadcast by the BBC, go to google films and search for his name. His films are an amazing and revealing description of the social and psychological factors that produced the consumer culture of the post war years. They are the best summation I have seen of the effects of the MSM and popular culture but that is just the context.

What Obama also understands is the reaction to that culture, how humans have evolved to survive the barrage of mixed media messages and subliminal suggestions. Those who do not develop defenses to commercial propaganda just don’t survive as long as those that do, they become obese, get diabetes, metabolic syndrome and a host of psycho-social disorders. Those who inherit or develop defenses to propaganda of all types are the ones who are building the next sustainable culture.

So to an extent perhaps it is a generational change that he is surfing. But this is one boomer who is hoping for his kind of change

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Thunderbolt! Survival in the face of a commercial barrage. I like it.

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Watch the major documentaries of Adam Curtis broadcast by the BBC, go to google films and search for his name. His films are an amazing and revealing description of the social and psychological factors that produced the consumer culture of the post war years.

Thanks for the reference, BobFred2. I'm really interested in this.

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So often I wish I could Rec' a comment as well as the post to which it was addressed. This is one of those times, BF2.
Which is not to say that I am not frustrated by Obama's sotto voce game plan -- if that plan is, in fact, one of strategic step-by-step advancement of all the issues on the gameboard.
I am beginning to see the merit in his apparently modest healthcare initiative; it may be that an incremental approach is the only way to avoid getting shut down, immediately and conclusively.
But I still do not get his enthusiasm for Geitner and Summers. At all. Foxes in the henhouse seems to me to be an understatement.
On the other hand, why take the risk of doing the traditional Democratic thing of self-sabotaging? There may be a few lessons that could be learned from the opposition, most relevant of which might well be that "united we stand, divided we fall."
Thanks once again, Deanie, for a thought-provoking post that also soothes, at least temporarily.

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The "underestimating" is, in fact, about not understanding Obama or the 21st century as the post eloquently describes. Hence, the fundamental error that requires correction is in the lack of understanding not in the subsequent underestimating. Process, process, process.

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Process, process, process.
Hear, hear!
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JESSE VENTURA: So, you know, to me, it's a case of, really, I think, in many ways, federal politics is very much like pro-wrestling. In front of us, the public, they pretend they're angry with each other and they pretend to not like each other. But in the back rooms, they're all buddies and cutting deals. And I think that's what the two parties do today at the federal level.

LARRY KING: So that's why you think the public...

VENTURA: It's very much like wrestling.

KING: And do you think the public is aware of that?

VENTURA: No. I think the public believes it, just like they did for wrestling, you know, that they really don't like each other, that they're really against each other, when the reality of it is that both parties are bought and sold by the same lobbyists.

If you go to both national conventions, you'll see the same lobbyists at each one, where they're buying their influence right there. So it really doesn't matter fully to them who wins and who loses, because they have their base covered.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/14/lkl.01.html

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I think that is a very good way of ending this post's journey through TPM's heavens.

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I find myself in complete agreement with many that will want to shower after hearing that.

First, as others have pointed out, there is absolutely no comparison between LBJ and Obama. LBJ owned Congress in a way that few Presidents had before him and no one since. He, along with FDR, was probably the most skilled US politician of the 20th Century (and that includes both parties). One dirty secret: most here at TPM would hate the way that LBJ accomplished this. Bags of money from Brown and Root (later called Halliburton), pork up the wahzoo, and strong armed politics. But you know what? That's how the world works. Had it not been for Vietnam, LBJ would probably be hailed today as FDR is -- possibly more so because LBJ got his domestic agenda accomplished without the fear of a depression going on.

Second, while MSNBC may be great counter programming to FNC, it does little to educate the electorate and, in fact, does much to encourage a continuing infantilezation of our political dialog ("I know you are, but what am I?") It may help things pass in the short term, but won't allow good roots to grow to help the things stay in the long.

Third, Obama inherits a country in an awful mess... and did not bring in truly fresh people. Clintonites, Goldman Sachs folks... these people quickly allow opposition to prescribe "more of the same old, same old" (sometimes missing the inconvenient fact that the Bush administration used the same people!)

Fourth, magic thinking only works so far. Obama is now slipping in the polls and the "new car smell" is gone. This is not Obama's fault, it's simply part of the political process and quite natural, especially with the spiraling economy. Obama needs to really reach for new people, much as Lincoln didn't win the Civil War until he got to Generals that didn't represent the "old guard".

Obama is smart, but he's not a deity. He's human. And there is only so much that one human can do under the pressing grindstone of history. Time is definitely running out, he will have to act far bolder and use all of his charm and oratory to get the United States to understand the "new reality" that so far neither Obama, nor any other politician, wants to bring up.


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Thanks for the insight, Deanie. Great post.

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Deanie, you've made many excellent points. Still...when you look at all the hugely unpopular policies the Bushies were able ram through out of sheer bullheadedness and fuck-youism, it's hard not to wish that the Democrat in the White House were less of a lover and more of a fighter. (As someone said recently: "I'm still hoping for a little audacity.") Also, I think you've underplayed the extent to which Obama appears - and not just to conservatives -- to be in bed with the Wall Street felons.

Gotta agree with you on the current state of MSNBC, though -- particularly now that they've added the jingoistic and deeply unintelligent Ed Schultz to the lineup. Olbermann has followed suit by dumbing down his broadcast considerably. But I suppose that like all purveyors of the infotainment that passes for news in this country, they're in business to make money, so they play to the largest (i.e. stupidest) common denominator. And sadly, our only "public option" for television news is still passing off GOP shills like David Brooks as independent news "analysts."

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Exactly. If your experience is similar to mine, you've been having versions of this conversation with people since around March 2008. Obama's staying power and ability to focus on the long term really is, as you eloquently point out, a new paradigm for 21st century politicians.

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Great comments, guys, as always. I always read them and then mull them over before responding.

But I do want to clarify one point--it wasn't my intention to imply that Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow, for instance, are NEWS. Don't get me wrong--I love their shows and watch often. But I consider them opinionists, for lack of a better term. In fact, I know that, usually, when I tune in, I'll wind up feeling better for thinking the way I do on a given subject, and this is what drives all the viewers who tune in to the opinionists. (My sweet step-mother remains consistently baffled as to why I refuse to get my news, like she does, from Bill O'Reilly.)

It's getting harder and harder these days just to find news headlines. You pretty much have to hit, say, CNN, right on the hour, and for about 15 minutes you're going to get a summary of sorts, but then, inevitably, rather than just covering the news about what's going on in congress or the WH, they will--but then will immediately invite on two talking-heads to express their opinions, and there are times I get really frustrated with that. NOT TO MENTION such phenomenon as three whole days of Michael Jackson All the Time, while we've got two wars going on, the economy's in the tank, and titanic battles are taking place on Capital Hill.

(Plus, Farrah Fawcett died, too. I'm just sayin'. And her passing was far more heroic.)

It's not much better in print and online news sources. For years now, reporters don't report, they REPEAT. I used to run screaming out of the room during the Bush years, when WHATEVER the WH said in the press briefing, they dutifully repeated on-air without the slightest effort to check out the validity or truth of it.

Now, in some ways, it's worse. WH correspondents can't help but toss in their personal opinions when reporting, under the guise that it's their beat and they oughta know. But the recent e-mail releases showing every damn one of them sucking up to that sleaze Sanford for a prize "get" pretty much outed the whole worthless gang.

Often, I'll give up, press "mute," and just read the damn news crawl beneath.

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Nothing to add to this except bravo, and that people need to understand how Community Organizers really do their work. Had Saul Alinsky had Obama's tools, he'd have worked precisely as Obama works.

p.s. I just sent $25.00 to Democracy for America to wake up Max Baucus, who still thinks the Health Insurance Industry owns him.

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THE BEST ANALYSIS AND COMMENTARY ON OUR PRESIDENT THAT I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE TO READ IN A LONG TIME , TO LONG. YOU HAVE GRASPED NOT ONLY HIS CHARACTER BUT MANY OF HIS UNIQUE GIFTS. I THINK HE MUST BE A RATHER FORMIDABLE POKER PLAYER. I PRAY HE DOES NOT BURN HIMSELF OUT.BUT ON THE OTHER HAND HE HAS THE PERFECT JOB TO DO THAT IN. CHARELESHENRY.

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