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Obama wasn't qualified and the DNC knew it


Here's the proof:

The Democrat Party was responsible for vetting and certifying Barack Hussein Obama as legally eligible to seek the Oval Office.  The proper legal text normaly used on the DNC Party "Official Certification of Nomination" document reads as follows:

"THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution."

However, that is not how Barack Hussein Obama's DNC Party "Official Certification of Nomination" document reads. Click here to see the original.

There is more. Click here for the full story.

 

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davidfarrar


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The earth is flat, man didn't land on the moon yada yada yada. For awhile you were good for comic relief, but even that has grown old.

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Okay, Mr. J.S. Fox,

Where is it?

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davidfarrar

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Why does it scare you that Barack Obama 'IS' our president? Is it because he is black? Because he is educated? Because he is not part of the pseudo-christian mafia and not under their mind-control programming as you appear to be?

How does it feel to be a tool of the pseudo-christian mafia David? To be used as a pawn by those greedy, rich, and powerful people who believe that they have been ordained by God to rule us? And they believe they are 'above' moral rules as well, they just put on a show for appearances sake so that you think they are moral.

Do you understand that Doug Coe and other leaders that guide them appreciate and respect rulers like Hitler and Mao? When you try to peg that stuff on President Obama, you are barking up the wrong tree, you should just turn around and look at the people you are listening to on Fox etc.

Do you understand that they want you confused and afraid because then you are easy to manipulate? Do you understand that their goal is to amass more and more power and rule?

You watched Bush and Cheney... do you think they gave a damn about our constitution or liberties? I think not!

If you really gave a damn about the constitution you would be demanding accountability for all of the violations of law that Bush and Cheney perpetrated.

Do you understand that they consider themselves above the law and do not care what we put in our 'legislation'?

Now 'those' are the people you 'should' be afraid of.

Those are the people who are destroying our democracy... and you inadvertently and possibly innocently are one of their soldiers, helping them with this agenda...

Did you know all of that?

You've got it all backwards.

President Obama is a citizen. I wrote to him and asked him to run for president when he was a senator. I may be disappointed in some of the decisions he has made but am glad he IS president and you appear to have a problem dealing with reality.

In fact it seems to me you prefer to live in delusion and your sources are always worse than suspect. They are ridiculous.

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Ah, Ms. Synchronicity,

Perhaps you can tell us where it is?

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davidfarrar

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I have no interest in playing into your psychotic fantasies. Your sources are completely ridiculous and laughable.

Answer the questions or just grow up will you?

He is the president. It's a done deal, legal and everything.

And he's a hell of a lot better president than the one and a half we had for the last 8 years. Get over yourself and do something more useful, will you?

Is your life this empty that all you can do is spend time coming to a touted liberal leaning website to lay your fantasies and delusions on us?

Are you on acid or something? Should I be calling authorities to look for you and get you the help you need?

Get a puppy. I highly recommend it!

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So Ms. Synchronicity,

You didn't even bother to read the whole post before you took up your pen and tried to enlighten me on my short comings. Brilliant!

What's the old saying: There is no one more dangerous than the person who knows s/he is right.

I am prepared to discuss this issue with anybody here, that's why I posted it. But you have to first do me the honor of actually reading it first.

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davidfarrar

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No David I did at least look over your sources and it's complete BS. You are seeking out sources that are full of crap.

Fox is NOT, I repeat NOT fair and balanced news. Canadian Free Whatever looks like another extension of the same garbage you can find on Fox and Limbaugh etc. You are digging at the bottom of the garbage can for sources trying to prove a bogus BS theory because 'you' so want to be 'right'.

So once again David,

Why does it scare you that Barack Obama 'IS' our president? Is it because he is black? Because he is educated? Because he is not part of the pseudo-christian mafia and not under their mind-control programming as you appear to be?

How does it feel to be a tool of the pseudo-christian mafia David? To be used as a pawn by those greedy, rich, and powerful people who believe that they have been ordained by God to rule us? And they believe they are 'above' moral rules as well, they just put on a show for appearances sake so that you think they are moral.

Do you understand that Doug Coe and other leaders that guide them appreciate and respect rulers like Hitler and Mao? When people try to peg that stuff on President Obama, they are barking up the wrong tree, you should just turn around and look at the people you are listening to on Fox etc.

Do you understand that they want you confused and afraid because then you are easy to manipulate? Do you understand that their goal is to amass more and more power, and control?

You watched Bush and Cheney... do you think they gave a damn about our constitution or liberties? I think not!

If you really gave a damn about the constitution you would be demanding accountability for all of the violations of law that Bush and Cheney perpetrated.

Do you understand that they consider themselves above the law and do not care what we put in our 'legislation'?

Now 'those' are the people you 'should' be afraid of.

Those are the people who are destroying our democracy... and you inadvertently and possibly innocently are one of their soldiers, helping them with this agenda...

Did you know all of that?

You've got it all backwards.

President Obama is a citizen. I wrote to him and asked him to run for president when he was a senator. I may be disappointed in some of the decisions he has made but am glad he IS president and you appear to have a problem dealing with reality.

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Okay, Ms. Synchronicity,

I give up. Where did either of the links in my post ever mention Fox News? In fact, if Fox News would have mentioned this story, that would have indeed been news. They have consistently bought into lie that Obama is fully credentialed to be President.

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davidfarrar

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Oh, and I have actually found the quote I was looking for in my post to you above. It was made by Dr. Martin Luther King: "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

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davidfarrar

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You are so close to understanding. You have the quote right there in your mind but can't seem to take it in.

It is not I that needs to hear it David.

Let me repeat it for you.

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

Just take it in David and free yourself of your psychotic obsession.

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btw David consider this, if you can.

If I had the money and the desire I could use the all sorts of media to convince the world that you are an alien being from another planet that means us harm and must be destroyed.

The sources you are using lie to people every day for some sick purpose that maybe they don't even understand.

I understand that you are suffering from some sort of dementia.

I suggest you tell yourself this.

Barack Hussein Obama is a better president than the men who were in power in the previous adminstration. He is a man of good intentions and good character. He is recognized as the president because he 'is' the president...

just repeat as necessary.

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I sincerely wish you would. (Give up, that is)

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I truly wish I could. I want too. All I need is proof that Obama has met his constitutional requirements to be President, that's it. If Obama would have been as forthcoming as John McCain was when the Left questioned his credentials, all of this would have been swiftly resolved.

If we can see and authenticate Obama's long-form birth certificate, and if there is a third-party witness to his birth in a hospital, namely his birth doctor, the issue would be resolved.

All we seek is authentication. Obama can put an end to this with a short five minute phone call to Hawaiian Health officials, but to date he has instead mounted a multi-million dollar legal defense against just such publication. So if you wish this issue to stop, as I do; I suggest you write to the person who is actually prolonging it, Barack Obama.

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davidfarrar

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Re: Fox 'Lies R Us''News?' With An Agenda eh um...
the flat out blatant liars on TV constantly claiming to offer 'fair and balanced' information which is just another one of their lies...

well it didn't matter that it wasn't the source here. You just revealed that you consider there garbage 'news'. That pretty much makes my point that you use crap resources from flat out liars to try to make a psychotic argument about something that has been debunked but you just won't let go.

So here you are once again showing up to demonstrate to the world how ignorant you are.

I suggest that you read your MLK quote over and over again out loud until you get it.

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This comment was in response to your comment here.

Re: Fox 'Lies R Us''News?' With An Agenda eh um...
the flat out blatant liars on TV constantly claiming to offer 'fair and balanced' information which is just another one of their lies...

well it didn't matter that it wasn't the source here. You just revealed that you consider there garbage 'news'. That pretty much makes my point that you use crap resources from flat out liars to try to make a psychotic argument about something that has been debunked but you just won't let go.

So here you are once again showing up to demonstrate to the world how ignorant you are.

I suggest that you read your MLK quote over and over again out loud until you get it.

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Oh good God, No. Think of the poor dog. Having to go through the rest of his or her life wondering how the hell did I get stuck with this idiot.

While David continues to search for the dog's "real" papers. Convinced yet again in some grand conspiracy that his dog is not what it's purported to be.

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Hmmm, I feel a recipe coming on....

Let's see - okay, here ya go:

Fried Birther Cake

1 David Farrar
1 Vat of Lard
1 Really Big Kettle

1 Fire'Cracker' Candle

Place Lard in Kettle, place over large HellFire and after Lard is bubbling .....

Okay, bet ya all can figure out rest of recipe!

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Okay, I'll try you Aunt Sam,

What is it?


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davidfarrar

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rotflmao. This one is good David. I suggest you run with it, I think you can work it up to a comedy routine as good as your other posts. Just a suggestion though. Include Chief Justice John Roberts as part of the conspiricy. Obviously he was part of it and that's why he messed up the words on Obama's swearing in. Well, use it or not, you're the comedian, you probably know best how to get the big laughs.

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Here was the DNC's problem: Aware of the fact that Barack Hussein Obama did NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office of President, what well-seasoned professional politician would be stupid enough to sign their name and stake their personal and political reputation upon certifying Obama as eligible?

They had to have known, or at least strongly suspected that Obama may not have been fully qualified in order to bother rewriting the party's "Official Certification of Nomination" language. Here it is in black and white, fully notarized for all to see.

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davidfarrar

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de·men·tia

NOUN:

1. Deterioration of intellectual faculties, such as memory, concentration, and judgment, resulting from an organic disease or a disorder of the brain. It is sometimes accompanied by emotional disturbance and personality changes.

2. Madness; insanity. See Synonyms at insanity.

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How is that EPIC FAIL working out for you?

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Ok, I read it. I got past the big ticker in the corner that is the countdown for Obama to leave office. And the big ad for the 9-12 project. I even read down to the quotations from Rush and the evil agenda of the DNC.

The DNC has an official, signed nomination. I'm sorry that it doesn't pass the critical tests of someone who thinks that Obama is not a legal resident and has something to hide. Enough myth busting has been done for me to believe that Obama is eligible, thus the whole premise is not even plausible. People have "evidence" that Bush orchestrated 9/11, but that doesn't make it true. Are you gonna believe a tobacco company that swears cigarettes don't cause cancer? How about the benefits of ear candles from the ear candle makers? The anti-Obama site is trying to sell (amazingly enough!) anti-Obama propaganda. Pardon me if I don't spit out my food in surprise. Find me some more neutral sources, then we'll talk.

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Okay, Mr. Frizzletoad,Synchronicity, Aunt Sam,and the rest of my friends here at TPM, since you have all professed to have at least read the material...where is it?

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davidfarrar

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Where is what?

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Oy.

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Claim: A Certification of Live Birth document provided by the Obama campaign is a forgery.

FALSE
Example: [Collected via e-mail, June 2008]

I read that Obama will not release his birth certificate. Have heard rumors it's because he is listed as white. Or that because he isn't a U.S. born citizen.

Origins: In the first half of 2008, a number of rumors swirling around about presidential candidate Barack Obama coalesced in the claim that he "refused to produce his birth records" because doing so would demonstrate some or all of those rumors to be true: that Barack Obama was "not African," that he was a Muslim with a middle name of Mohammed, that he wasn't born in the United States at all (and thus didn't qualify as a natural-born citizen), etc.

In any event the rumormongers were likely to be disappointed. Information about religion and race, when it was collected for birth records, simply reflected whatever the parents identified themselves to be; those values weren't officially assigned to the newborn children as immutable labels. And of course, no infant has any control over whatever names his parents choose for him.

As things turned out, when the Obama campaign made a copy of his Certification of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii available on the Internet in June 2008, it validated none of those rumors: The certificate shows his full name to be "Barack Hussein Obama II," it lists his father's race as "African" and his mother's as "Caucasian," it contains no information about religion, and it reports his birthplace as being Honolulu, Hawaii.

A number of self-proclaimed experts immediately seized the opportunity to pronounce the certificate a forgery (even though none of them had actually seen the
original, just a scanned image of it), picking on such specious details as minor variations from other Hawaii-issued certificates and the lack of an embossed seal and signature. (Some forgery claimants even maintained that the certificate was actually an altered version of one issued to Barack Obama's half-sister, Maya.) Aside from the inherent absurdity of such claims (i.e., that a major party presidential nominee would risk his entire candidacy on a fraud that could be uncovered simply by a check of state health records), the supposedly incriminating details don't pan out: the certificate is consistent with others issued in the same time and place, and the embossed seal and signature don't show through very well on the scanned front image made available on the Internet because they were applied to the back of the original document, not the front. Those who have actually touched and examined the original certificate have verified and documented that it bears all the elements of a valid certificate of live birth.

Moreover, both of Honolulu's major newspapers (the Advertiser and the Star-Bulletin) published announcements in August 1961 documenting the birth, in Honolulu, of a son to "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama" on 4 August 1961:

In August 2008, Philadelphia attorney Philip Berg included claims of a forged certificate (among other rumors) as the basis for a suit in U.S. District Court challenging Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency on the grounds that Obama was actually born in Kenya (not Hawaii) and/or subsequently gave up his U.S. citizenship and thus does not qualify as a natural-born citizen of the U.S. In October 2008 a federal judge dismissed the complaint:

In a 34-page memorandum and opinion, the judge said Berg's allegations of harm were "too vague and too attenuated" to confer standing on him or any other voters.

Surrick ruled that Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."

The judge also said the harm Berg alleged did "not constitute an injury in fact" and Berg's arguments to the contrary "ventured into the unreasonable."

(A similar lawsuit was dismissed by a U.S. District Court judge in March 2009.)

In October 2008, and again in July 2009, Hawaiian officials reported that they had personally verified that Barack Obama's original birth certificate was in the Hawaii State Department's files:

State officials say there's no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen."

Fukino says that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently from any other.

She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest in it.

In January 2009, a teacher at the Honolulu prep school attended by Barack Obama recalled discussing his birth with the obstetrician who had delivered him:

When Barack Hussein Obama places his hand on the Bible to take the oath of office as 44th president of the United States, Barbara Nelson of Kenmore will undoubtedly think back to the day he was born. It was Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu.

"I may be the only person left who specifically remembers his birth. His parents are gone, his grandmother is gone, the obstetrician who delivered him is gone," said Nelson, referring to Dr. Rodney T. West, who died in February at the age of 98. Here's the story: Nelson was having dinner at the Outrigger Canoe Club on Waikiki Beach with Dr. West, the father of her college friend, Jo-Anne. Making conversation, Nelson turned to Dr. West and said: "So, tell me something interesting that happened this week," she recalls.

His response: "Well, today, Stanley had a baby. Now that's something to write home about."

The new mother was Stanley (later referred to by her middle name of Ann) Dunham, and the baby was Barack Hussein Obama.

"I penned the name on a napkin, and I did write home about it," said Nelson, knowing that her father, Stanley A. Czurles, director of the Art Education Department at Buffalo State College, would be interested in the "Stanley" connection.

She also remembers Dr. West mentioning that the baby's father was the first black student at the University of Hawaii and how taken he was by the baby's name.

"I remember Dr. West saying 'Barack Hussein Obama, now that's a musical name,'" said Nelson.

Ten years after that memorable birth announcement, Nelson would hear the Obama name again. This time, the father, now a Kenyan government official, was coming to speak at the Punahou School in Honolulu where Nelson was teaching and where his 10-year-old son was a newly enrolled fifth-grader.

A birth certificate produced in August 2009 which purportedly documented that Barack Obama was born in Kenya was quickly revealed to be a forgery.

Last updated: 3 August 2009

The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

Urban Legends Reference Pages © 1995-2009 by Barbara and David P. Mikkelson.
This material may not be reproduced without permission.
snopes and the snopes.com logo are registered service marks of snopes.com.


Sources:

Hinkelman, Michael. "Judge Rejects Montco Lawyer's Bid to Have Obama Removed from Ballot."
Philadelphia Daily News. 25 October 2008.

Koppelman, Alex. "Sex, Lies and Creatively Edited Interviews with Sarah Obama."
Salon. 5 December 2008.

Nakaso, Dan. "Obama's Certificate of Birth OK, State Says."
Honolulu Advertiser. 1 November 2008.

Nakaso, Dan. "Hawaii: Obama Birth Certificate Is Real."
Honolulu Advertiser. 27 July 2009.

Nakaso, Dan. "Hawaii officials confirm Obama's Original Birth Certificate Still Exists."
Honolulu Advertiser. 28 July 2009.

Voell, Paula. "Teacher from Kenmore Recalls Obama Was a Focused Student."
The Buffalo News. 20 January 2009.

Associated Press. "State Department of Health Declares Obama Birth Certificate Legal."
Honolulu Star-Bulletin. 31 October 2008.

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Well, at least we know you can cut & paste.

All we really want to see from Obama's long-form birth certificate is whether or not there is an arm's length, third party witness to Barack Obama's birth in Hawaii on August, 1961. In most cases this would be the birthing doctor or mid-wife.

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davidfarrar

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Why does it scare you that Barack Obama 'IS' our president? Is it because he is black? Because he is educated? Because he is not part of the pseudo-christian mafia and not under their mind-control programming as you appear to be?

How does it feel to be a tool of the pseudo-christian mafia David? To be used as a pawn by those greedy, rich, and powerful people who believe that they have been ordained by God to rule us? And they believe they are 'above' moral rules as well, they just put on a show for appearances sake so that you think they are moral.

Do you understand that Doug Coe and other leaders that guide them appreciate and respect rulers like Hitler and Mao? When people try to peg that stuff on President Obama, they are barking up the wrong tree, you should just turn around and look at the people you are listening to on Fox etc.

Do you understand that they want you confused and afraid because then you are easy to manipulate? Do you understand that their goal is to amass more and more power, and control?

You watched Bush and Cheney... do you think they gave a damn about our constitution or liberties? I think not!

If you really gave a damn about the constitution you would be demanding accountability for all of the violations of law that Bush and Cheney perpetrated.

Do you understand that they consider themselves above the law and do not care what we put in our 'legislation'?

Now 'those' are the people you 'should' be afraid of.

Those are the people who are destroying our democracy... and you inadvertently and possibly innocently are one of their soldiers, helping them with this agenda...

Did you know all of that?

You've got it all backwards.

President Obama is a citizen. I wrote to him and asked him to run for president when he was a senator. I may be disappointed in some of the decisions he has made but am glad he IS president and you appear to have a problem dealing with reality

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Thanks for sharing your kookiness...

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davidfarrar says: Here it is in black and white, fully notarized for all to see.

Ummm, guess you didn't notice, but that is not an original notarized document. It is a jpg - a picture only.

We can't possible accept this as proof of anything. Nice try, but if the birthers have taught us anything, it's that jpgs don't count!

Cheers!

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Forget the birth certificate for a moment, will you?
Are all of you who are discounting David's story saying that the copies of the Official Certificate of Nominations are fake? If so, say it.

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If so, say it.

It.

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They mean no real harm. It's just that the truth for them hurts and they are reacting to pain the only way they can, by attacking the messenger. I ignore it, frankly.

But to answer your question, no they are not fake.

The article further alleges that the short version was sent to "Every" state. I, however, have no real way to prove that for a fact. If it was, and it was not simply done by mistake, it would suggest to an objective mind that they knew something about Obama the voters didn't know.

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