My mom was never that fat.

David Farrar is not an American citizen, by neither birth nor naturalization. He does not have a green card or other residence permit. In addition to committing felony election fraud, he tries to undermine American democracy and advance the interests of foreign powers under the command of the former(?) Mossad/KGB agent Orly Taitz by spending all his free time logging in and out of sites to use multiple accounts to recommend his posts.

I don't think you should be dismissing the Wisdom of the Crowds so quickly simply as partisan gangs or mobs. I wonder what you would be calling them if they were there supporting ObamaCare?

True, many haven't a clue what is really being proposed. But far from condemning them for their ignorance, it should be looked upon as the cause of their anger -- and a true and proper response to the way Obama has mishandled his Health Care legislative initiative.

Let's go back to how Obama promised he would approach health-care. At a town hall meeting in Chester, Va. back in August of last year candidate Obama had this to say about the important value of public debate regarding health care:

"People say, 'Well, you have this great health care plan, but how are you going to pass it? You know, it failed in '93,' And what I've said is, I'm going to have all the negotiations around a big table. We'll have doctors and nurses and hospital administrators. Insurance companies, drug companies — they'll get a seat at the table, they just won't be able to buy every chair. But what we will do is, we'll have the negotiations televised on C-SPAN, so that people can see who is making arguments on behalf of their constituents, and who are making arguments on behalf of the drug companies or the insurance companies. And so, that approach, I think is what is going to allow people to stay involved in this process."

More recently at a town hall occasion – again in Virginia - Mr. Obama had the following to say about value of public debate regarding his plan for the nation’s economy:

"I don't want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess.”

Well, for some reason the health care negotiations never made it to C-SPAN, and far more dangerously, Mr. Obama decided to fast-track the biggest social-engineering proposal since FDR's "Social Security" legislation through Congress before many have even read the bill. Indeed, the bill is still being written even as we speak.

Is it any wonder why people are upset? Is it any wonder why people are angry? Is it any wonder why people are coming to the only real public discourse venue many have, their own town meetings, held by their own Congressional representatives?

The really pertinent question is, given the history of this great nation, what is it about Obama and his friends in Congress that would allow them to think their own constituency would react otherwise?

My take on the high number of rec's my posts have been receiving, I think its coming from the left. It's a clever way to game the system to silence people. Simply have a few of your friends recommend a poster in question. Start complaining about gaming the system, reporting the abuse, and presto...the guilty party is taken down from TPM's listing.

As I mentioned on my website, unless We the people come together and start talking to each other, start seeking out our own solutions, our political parties will continue to divide us for the own political purposes.

ex animo
davidfarrar

"Wisdom of the Crowds" David this has some validity when the collected wisdom of the crowds is based on truth. Instead the crowds in this case are basing their arguments on mis-information, lies and ignorance. Choosing to believe without question the likes of Fox, Rush, and organize opponents funded and coordinated by large healthcare providers. Providers who have no interest, but to maintain the status quo and their bottom lines. Please point to one thing that most of these folks are screaming about has any basis in fact.

Farrar is the Mob on our site, recommending himself left and right. What do we do to restrict Mob abuse here?

Many have complained and naturally want this over.

I'd like to suggest a transcript of the first image

" Yes, people of Salem, I saw what she did, and I swear she's a witch.
We must remove and destroy witches.

Burn baby Burn"

Oh my, David. Those are nice looking people. How could I have been so wrong? Now I know that there are no thugs being put up to shouting and acts of violence by the insurance industry's lobbyists. Now I know I must have misread the memo that showed up on all those teabaggers' websites. And, when those people stood up and started yelling as soon as the congressman started trying to speak, they just wanted to make sure he heard them and didn't try to shout THEM down.

Thank you SO much for showing us how things truly are.

Hey ... Tommy Tonsillitis . . .

Pick up the white courtesy telephone ... there's a message for you that you have yet to answer over here in your deceptive thread . . .

Not that it will make any difference to such a troublemaker such as you, as you have exhibited by your actions here in the Cafe . . .

~OGD~