truther =/= birther
I'm surprised to see Josh giving credence to the birther/truther false equivalence. Truthers,
however misinformed or misguided, are not marching in the streets
demanding a special prosecutor for Bush and Cheney. Truthers are not
advocating taking up arms against the government, or a vigilante court
for Condoleeza Rice. Believing 9/11 was intentionally allowed to
happen by GWB is no crazier than believing the moon landing was filmed
in Burbank, or that alien spacecraft landed in Roswell, or that Elvis
is alive. It's a little crazy, but it's 99% harmless, garden-variety,
American crazy, with no socio-political ramifications.
Birthers are declaring the President an illegal imposter and asking the rest of us, variously, to disown him, impeach him, investigate him, and ignore federal laws and agents.
Truthers, if they advocate for anything, want more information about the September 11th attacks. Birthers want to subvert democracy. There's no comparison.
Birthers are declaring the President an illegal imposter and asking the rest of us, variously, to disown him, impeach him, investigate him, and ignore federal laws and agents.
Truthers, if they advocate for anything, want more information about the September 11th attacks. Birthers want to subvert democracy. There's no comparison.
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Trying to get information, more information about how w and his administration fucked up so badly during their first 8 months in office is not attempting to tie w to the fall of the Twin Towers. No way, no how.
Barnacle was on Mornin Joke this morn and telling us that My President has to stop making appearances and giving speeches AND GET BACK TO WORK.
Fuck Barnacle. w went on vacation for six of his first eight months.
My President is at work 24/7
September 23, 2009 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wasn't impressed with that either. IMO he also mixes the "No plane hit the Pentagon ... the towers were rigged to implode" full on conspiracy theorists with those who just think Bush ignored warnings hoping for an excuse. I think it's wrong to refer to the latter group as "truthers", but that seems to be the new definition Josh (and most others it seems) has accepted.
September 23, 2009 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's just more proof that Josh is becoming a villager and TPM iw going mainstream. The truther = birther false equivalence is a talking point. Talking Points Memo should treat it as such, not regurgitate it.
September 23, 2009 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ooooh! I just figured out what the =/= means (yeah, slow). A total geek point: != or would have been more correct.
September 24, 2009 4:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
true, or > would do...
September 24, 2009 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Truthers were absolutely marching in the streets for those things. Fortunately, they were so beyond the pale that even crazy truthers eventually realized they wouldn't get a special prosecutor no matter who they mugged.
To be honest, up until copies of the actual Hawaiian birth certificate surfaced, the birther nonsense was relatively reasonable. Obviously people clinging to it now are mostly doing so just because it embarrasses the President (or maybe his opponents).
The truther nonsense was never relatively reasonable.
September 24, 2009 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink