A political cartoon from Spain

"They are against protectionism, but wherever they go they are always surrounded by bodyguards"Andrés Rábago, who signs "El Roto" (the broken one) is more than a political cartoonist: his drawings are brilliant, tiny, essays in the bitterest traditions of the blackest, Spanish, anarchist humor.
The one I have chosen today is especially poisonous.
Enjoy!
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Sounds to me that inherent in the message of the cartoon is more than a little bitterness about foreigners like you creating the housing bubble in Spain, and it is something that has been building from far before the fall financial collapse in the U.S.
"The Recession in Spain"
by Matthew Yglesias, Feb. 2, reporting from same:
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February 6, 2009 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Keep in mind it is real estate bubbling that started this whole thing, along with the later attempted marketing of secondary bubbles from that bubble. If greed's the problem, there's equality of greediness in all the bubble merchandise.
If anyone wants to carry the comparison of Spain and Florida further (and I do definitely think there is some there there), there is an excellent story on Florida's bubble insanity economy in this week's New Yorker: The Ponzi State by George Packer. It was "outsiders" what dun a lot of it....it was a Ponzi scheme using population growth, where it was warm and sunny and the constant stream of foreign newcomers (in Florida's case, both Americans from other states and actual foreigners) betting on the desire for that sun are the ones that pay for everything.
February 6, 2009 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can carry the comparison pretty far, AA. I've got relatives who've participated in this Spanish real estate bubble, on the development end and the investing end. And it is as you say.
February 6, 2009 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just got back home from the movies. It's about 11pm here in Madrid and the town is humming the movie theater was full, the bars are full, the cafés are full, people were pouring into a theater I passed and the restaurants were full of people fressing away. For the moment the crisis is mostly on the coast where the construction was so intense. Spanish banks are profitable and solid. And with the Spanish extended family and a social life based on eating and drinking with family and friends you've known since childhood a recession is very different here from in the states or even northern Europe. I have seen three really bad recessions here: at the end of the 70s and and at the beginning of the 90s with unemployment as high as 24% and life went on just the same. Up till now it's nothing as bad as that. With 24% unemployment there would be blood in the streets in the USA, but not here.
February 6, 2009 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was only 22 degrees F last night in the NYC area, but the Macy's parking lot in Yonkers north of the city was full, and later I went to the Barnes and Noble in Manhattan at 10:30 pm and it was pretty busy too. The night before that I went to a white tablecloth restaurant in the Bronx, ($50-$75 per person, $6 beers) and we had to wait half hour for a table.
Florida is in the south of the U.S. It's a big country.
There was double-digit umemployment and double digit inflation when I got out of graduate school in the Midwest. I worked 4 part-time jobs, the main one bringing me the income was waitressing. I still partied, a lot, so did lots of other young people. I didn't see any blood in the streets, though once in a while you would see a Japanese car bashing event on the news.
What you see there is here too. Just enough areas are hurting to make for serious shit for everyone. Just because numbers show trouble doesn't mean that every part of the U.S. is devastated and cowering. They are just not spending, everything is frozen.
And in the future, even something like 15% unemployment means 85% are still working. I don't think your (apparent to me) desire to see the U.S. suffer to "blood in the streets" stage is very realistic or shows much knowledge of the real current U.S. culture rather than the one you see on TV and the net. We are a lot more like the modern Spanish than you think, so are a lot of people considered "middle class" around the world these days. News for ya: some folks in places like rural North Dakota or urban Detroit have been suffering for more than a few years.
February 6, 2009 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Edit to above
They are just not spending, everything is frozen.
should read:
They are just not spending on big ticket stuff, everything like that is frozen. The personal savings rate rose a lot in the last quarter.
And I would add that that is the main thing that we are passing a stimulus bill for, to try to stop a deflationary cycle, where the loss of jobs from people's fear of buying big ticket items, because they fear being laid off. The most popular financial advisors on the tube are telling everyone to act like they are going to be laid off. So many are putting off all big purchases and saving money instead (or paying down debt.)
Sorry, I just don't see "blood in the streets" in this culture even with 20% unemployment, as long as it doesn't stretch over 10 years like the last time. I really do think you have a very inaccurate view of the U.S. culture there, I can't disagree with you on that enough.
February 6, 2009 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wishful thinking? Sorry David. I understand that it is very attractive to blame your own incompetence on others, and wish them the worst. It is also very petty and souless. A well to do Spainard ought to be a bit more, er, Noblese Oblige toward those he considers his inferiors.
I'd think your countrymen, or at least the enlightened ones, would tend to shun people such as you...
February 6, 2009 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Schadenfreude meets Cassandra, hopes Obama will break hearts as Kennedy broke his.
February 6, 2009 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yea, ain't never been blood on the streets in Spain, eh?
February 6, 2009 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hah! Yano, one can take that further. At one time in the 20th century, I believe Spain was a popular destination for a small contingent of American lefties seeking some "blood on the streets" action when they were frustrated with the lack of same in their own country. :-)
I'd like to add to TheraP's news stories links below and see if we can make the current Spain look like it's getting close to hell on earth. It's easy, wanna see?
Now Mr. Seaton will protest that that's not an accurate picture of daily life. Well guess what, Mr. Seaton, same for the U.S.
Meanwhile, I haven't seen any comment from Mr. Seaton about whether there is protectionist sentiment against well-off Yankee and Brit expat types (who helped drive up real property values.)
That's what I see in his cartoon, looks to me that it's not about the U.S. politicians or diplomats, it's about well-off foreign interlopers in Spain. So is Mr. Seaton still receiving free-lance payments from Spanish publications that could be going to some English-speaking Spanish citizens? Is he feeling any discomfort about that when he looks at the cartoon? When he sees immigrant olive pickers being urged to go home? To me, that cartoon is clearly anti-well-off foreigner.
February 6, 2009 10:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hee. Methinks Mr. Seaton's solution would be to let 'em eat cake!
February 6, 2009 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
To add even further perspective to what AA has laid out above, see this article, from the NYTimes, which indicates that there are serious problems, even related to the Euro, which are affecting countries like Spain, where a huge boom is fast going bust, and the government lacks the ability to spend itself out of a hole - as some other European economies are able to do:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/business/worldbusiness/24euro.html
February 7, 2009 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, there are a lot of thought-provoking things in that article for me.
This:
and this
Made me think of Packer's The New Yorker article on Florida, where I have highlighted:
The whole thing gets to the strength of the unions. How much do we as citizens of other U.S. states want to help Florida with its economy that was a Ponzi phantom with no industry and no sold tax base that reasonable people knew couldn't last? How much do other EU states want to help Spain, Ireland, Greece...? What about the moral hazard thing? Will there be resentment?
In my area of NYC traditionally has a lot of Irish immigrants, and in the 90's, infamously, a lot of illegal ones. It was very common to hear joking since the Ireland boom about Ireland becoming the new U.S. as a land of opportunity and everyone illegal and legal getting on the boat back there.
The whole thing strikes at the "land of opportunity" mythos that can create Ponzis. Going back to your New York Times, it was interesting to see this guy talking some of the talk of our own Republicans on that, but at the same time, admitting the need for sophisticated institutions and regulations:
February 7, 2009 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
From the bbc:
Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7856080.stm
February 6, 2009 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
February 6, 2009 5:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's a whole lot of countries that are hurting all over the world. Heard on the radio last night the UN Development Program warned governments in South America they need massive government spending to counter the loss of 4 million jobs this year.
February 7, 2009 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
The worldwide melt-down.
February 7, 2009 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
It can't be stressed enough, at least on a thread by David Seaton. He seems to want to present the picture that it is all the American hegemon's fault, when it is clearly shaping up to be the result of a globalized economy that grew very quickly without any adequate global oversight institutions. No, it's the fault of greed in a relatively unregulated global economy. The irony is, as an expat, he is one that has been totally taking advantage of a globalized economy, and doing so early on. I don't know his particulars, but if we all went back to protectionism, chances are that someone like him wouldn't have been allowed to reside in Spain. As long as he stays in cosmopolitan areas (most of us in NYC love our immigrants and expats, too, wealthy or poor, believe they add to the economy rather than subtract from it) he will be well-received, but I still hold the opinion that the cartoon he presents warns people like him to watch himself (take along his "bodyguard") outside of the cosmopolitan areas.
February 7, 2009 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your posts on this thread have been super, AA. And I'm adding this comment here only in the hopes that people may see it on their dashboard and come here and read some the great comments!
February 7, 2009 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink