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America's mosaic (maps and discussion)
Today, instead of pontificating, I'd like to ask readers opinions and
conclusions after perusing the maps that I've stuck on here below. They are a map
of the 2008 election results, county by county, a map of "purple
America" from 2004 and a map of American's median income from 1999 (I
haven't found more recent maps, but I imagine they wouldn't be
dramatically different). Please take a look:

2008 election results - county by county

"Purple America" - 1999

Median family income - 1999
Right off the bat they look to me like a pre-war ethnic map of Bosnia, with the Serbs, Croats and Muslims all mixed up and only held together by Marshall Tito's iron hand. Like this:

My "start a bar fight" proposition would be that easy, subprime type credit has been America's answer to "Marshall Tito" and that stagnant or shrinking incomes, without access to that easy credit (something that will probably last long beyond the present crisis) will produce great tension in America's mosaic. I would be grateful for all opinions and, of course, especially those that are wonky.
http://seaton-newslinks.blogspot.com/

2008 election results - county by county

"Purple America" - 1999

Median family income - 1999
Right off the bat they look to me like a pre-war ethnic map of Bosnia, with the Serbs, Croats and Muslims all mixed up and only held together by Marshall Tito's iron hand. Like this:
My "start a bar fight" proposition would be that easy, subprime type credit has been America's answer to "Marshall Tito" and that stagnant or shrinking incomes, without access to that easy credit (something that will probably last long beyond the present crisis) will produce great tension in America's mosaic. I would be grateful for all opinions and, of course, especially those that are wonky.
http://seaton-newslinks.blogspot.com/
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I want to check with Mica on Mornin Joe before I come to any conclusions.
My problem (actually I have scores of problems but why split hairs) is that 90 grand in NYC is real different than 90 grand in Albany or 90 grand in Mpls.
Obama had a landslide victory only if you compare his percentage win to elections going back to 1980.
Same thing goes for electoral votes. But at least we know who won this time.
Other than that I will rely on the old adage:
A horse is a horse, of course of course, and no one can talk to a horse of course...
January 23, 2009 8:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Personally I think the income distribution chart is more important than the others as it is much easier to change your vote than to change your income. In that map we see islands of wealth and archipelagos of poverty in a sea of neither one nor the other. My working hypothesis is that the (permanent) loss of the kind of credit that produced the bubble will be like a painkiller wearing off of someone who has been in an accident and this will produce enormous tensions.
January 23, 2009 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
So-called "easy credit" (unless you're talking only about the interest-only loans, those were an invitation to default, BY DEFINITION) didn't have that much to do with the economic lock-up. The CDOs and CDSs had a very great deal to do with it, too. I get the feeling you have an agenda that isn't endorsed by reality, when you omit those important facts.
Those CDOs and CDSs were often taken out in a recursive fashion, so that the first one taken out against an institution was backed up by another taken out BY that first institution against another institution and this was repeated ad infinitum. All of this that should have never been more than "imaginary money" nailed a big part of the financial market as these became hedge fund offerings.
January 23, 2009 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Marx is attributed to have said that religion was the opiate of the masses. I believe that these days it has been easy credit that has been the opiate of the less well off. And now the with drawl symptoms will start to set in big time.
C
January 23, 2009 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
You forgot the most important map of all:
http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/popvssodamap.gif?w=680&h=410
January 23, 2009 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good good good
January 23, 2009 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Struck me looking at your map, that any really smart politician might follow David Letterman's example by using the term "beverage" with a touch of humor, thereby invoking solidarity among the other term users by mildly making fun of a very small nationwide minority. (I can easily envision Obama referring to the Pepsi he offers a guest as a "beverage." And would you want to sit down for a beverage with him?) This culture thing, it is indeed serious stuff. :-)
January 23, 2009 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great map!
You could even track migrations though this one (seriously).
January 23, 2009 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not necessarily unless you think the Northeast parachuted in to settle Missouri.
January 23, 2009 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
They did actually, it is called the "New England Diaspora", the only problem is that it occurred before the invention of sodapop.
My grandparents generation in Illinois and Iowa spoke with an accent almost identical to mainline Philadelphia. In the 1920s it changed to something more similar to Kentucky and Tennessee because of mass migration due to a depression before the Depression that caused great hardship in those states.
January 24, 2009 2:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's interesting Dave. I've always found that once you get about 40 or 50 miles outside of Chicago "downstate" out into farm country people always sound more like rural southerners than they do "yankees".
January 24, 2009 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you telling me there are counties in Virginia, North Carolina, New Mexico and Nevada where when you go to the soda fountain you ask for an "Other"?
January 23, 2009 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Other usually seems to be, "soft drink," "soda pop," or just, "drink." "Tonic" used to be popular in New England but is fading. And a lot of people use the brand names, Diet Pepsi, Dr Pepper, Mt Dew, etc.
January 23, 2009 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like tonic with vodka
=D
January 23, 2009 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is valuable information indeed, thanks for sharing it with us.
January 24, 2009 2:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
An even more interesting map than David's, Donal.
I could look at it for hours. Note how Missouri, and parts of Illinois right up to the capital, are solid soda country, sandwiched between hard-core pop and coke aficionados. How did that happen?
Extending the lines north, Quebec would be pro-soda too -- if we spoke English. The usual term here is soft drink, as a translation of "liqueur douce," but most anglos will order "a Coke." Then, when told, "We only have Pepsi," will meekly say, "OK, Pepsi." I actually prefer Pepsi, and order it first, thereby avoiding more disappointment than Coke-drinkers.
January 23, 2009 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not useful comparisons without other maps beside the Bosnian one. I get nada out of it.
What I get out of the US ones is that cities are liberal, country is not. Wow.
A more interesting map, absent here, is the voting-trend one. It shows the whole country going more Democratic, with the exceptions of Appalachia and Alaska. Guess we can conclude that, rather than civil war, we will see less polarization, or at least less symmetrical tension, as conservatives get their asses kicked, deservedly, for fucking up the country so thoroughly.
January 23, 2009 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
We can only hope!
January 23, 2009 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
"civil war"?
No, class tensions.
January 24, 2009 2:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here are some mapping various religions:
http://www.valpo.edu/geomet/geo/courses/geo200/religion.html
January 23, 2009 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Methodists plus Mormons seems like a decent fit for the 2004 presidential election map.
January 23, 2009 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a wonderful resource, thank you truly.
January 24, 2009 2:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here is an interesting link from Barbara Ehrenreich's blog to go with the maps.
January 24, 2009 3:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here is a juicy, I wish I had said that, quote from Ms Ehrenreich's post:
January 24, 2009 3:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
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Hmmm... quite interesting . . .
Yeah... this is quite a money quote from Barbara Ehrenreich:
Where's Tom Hollenbach when we need him?
Well this will have to do...
One must follow the comment threads also to get the real gist of his idea and his position.
But there's no way that the Obama team is in heading Tom's direction.
You see ... I haven't heard anything from Hollenbach since his last dire warning in a blog post the first week in January.
Both of his postings are must reads...
~OGD~
January 24, 2009 5:34 AM | Reply | Permalink