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Empty Nest


I have known this was coming for 23 years, and yet I am totally unprepared for this feeling.  All my children are sleeping in apartments or dormitories rather than down the hall from me.  I stayed home with them for 17 years, and only went back to work when they all got their drivers licenses.  All those years of single-parenting and never even having a date because I couldn't figure out how to divide the energy it would take, and now they just don't need me for everyday things any more and it is quite an adjustment.

My house is way too big and the task of decluttering and downsizing (though I want to do both) is overwhelming.  I can barely stand to even look at the list my real estate agent gave me, never mind STARTING on it.  Although I used to host large dinner parties I am hesitant to invite groups for dinner out of fear that I won't be able to do it well.  I invited my son for dinner last week and when he showed up I had forgotten that I had invited him and I had already eaten!

I decided last night that I would do some exercise today, but it is almost 11 am and here I am!  I need to clear leaves in my back yard; hopefully I'll make myself do it.  I'll feel better if I accomplish something, and being outside always helps.  Unrelated:  I saw an albino deer in my backyard last week; even got a picture of it.  It was beautiful, solid white -- almost luminescent -- I hope it doesn't turn out on someone's wall.  

Well, Christmas is coming and everyone will be home for a while.  I'm hoping we have a lot of laughs and food.  My daughter's job in New York ($12 an hour as a personal assistant to a struggling designer) is iffy, and she is looking for something else.  She wants to stay in the fashion industry, but what a time to be starting out!   My twin boys are in college now, and one is probably not going to go past this first year.  He is very smart but has a profound learning disability and just can't do the work despite his father helping him every day.  He has great leadership skills, and teaches adaptive skiing, which will probably be his field of work.  My other son has matured so much in these few months since he has been in college it surprised me.  He was so over high-school, and had a real attitude.  He has come so far so fast!  I can't tell you what great kids they all are.  They are all honest and intrinsically nice people!

 I wrote 4 years ago about starting my new job, and kind of said good-bye because I thought I wouldn't be able to come here so often, but I couldn't stay away.  Forgive this pity-party, but I just wanted to share this tough time with my pals at TPM.  Thanks,  Jan

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I'll bet your kids are doing and will do real well in the world, Jan. And I'm glad you haven't been able to stay away from here.

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Thanks. I think they will too. Patrick just called me and he's coming home early for Christmas; moved his exam up to tomorrow so he'll be home Wednesday. Appreciate your supportive comment, Destor.

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Thank you for this beautiful post. It sounded totally honest and not at all like a pity party. I think you're saying in all honesty that you gave up a lot to give yourself to these kids. That you're proud of where they're at. That you gave them the freedom to leave home. That you now are in this in-between-time, that's a loss for you. And who can possibly be prepared for something you've never been through before? Sit with these feelings, with this "state," and see where it takes you. They're growing. And you will too.

I hope and pray they can all find jobs and keep them in this very dark economic time.

You are valued here!

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Thanks, TheraP. I appreciate the kind words.

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Yeah, I'm about where you are CVille. Mine has another year to go and then off to college. I'm preparing for another chapter to start in my own life. You put so much energy into preparing them to make their way in this world...and then they're off and doing just that. And you have to pick up and do the same. It's a strange transition, I think probably because you invest SO much emotional energy in their success. And if you do a good job of that, they don't need you so much anymore.

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Carol, I'll be interested in hearing how it goes for you as well. I am surprised at how hard this is. I knew it was coming, and thought I would just sell my house, move into something small near the downtown mall and begin a new life. I didn't factor in getting motivated to prepare this house for sale, nor did I anticipate that the real estate market would tank. But mostly I didn't expect to feel a physical hole in my life. When my daughter came home for Thanksgiving the boys went to pick her up and they didn't want me along (OK, she got in at midnight, and I was happy to wait at home) but everything that happens seems somehow symbolic and meaningful in a strange way.

I also admit to a little secret: I often actually enjoy the peace and quiet and the lack of mess. I think I'm going to make it, but boy--it is no piece of cake!

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I think your last statements are key. My son has been spending alternate weekends at his father's. I've been finding, to my surprise, that I relish those weekends. What a luxury to have the entire weekend to myself and not have to budget that time. I think it's about getting used to being permitted to devoting your time to yourself - for the first time in decades. It's a huge change, but it can be really transforming.

When you were saying earlier that getting outside is helpful, I agree. I make a point of planning something for each weekend, but I don't overstructure my time. Balance is everything. But, just getting used to making what I want and need a priority - what a concept...

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1996 was my year from hell...My husband got temporarily transferred to the other end of the state, my son left for the army and my daughter left for college. That left me by myself with my business. To make matters worse, despite the old adage "absence makes the heart grow fonder," the marriage almost didn't survive.

My salvation? Scrapbooking...I know it seems simplistic, but the very act of getting out all the boxes of pictures and memorabilia, getting them sorted chronologically, and getting them put into beautifully decorated albums was restorative. As I journaled what I could remember about the times of our lives, relived the joy and the heartbreak, I became determined to hold the marriage together and make sure that the kids remembered that no matter where they went in life, their family should be at the core of it.

As each would visit, I'd bring out my labor of love and we'd pour over the pages, laughing and crying as appropriate. Each time they would come home they'd ask to see the latest pages. My husband decided the history was worth preserving.

Now, 12 years later, we all live within 2 miles of each other, our lives entwined...the marriage repaired, both children married, and a new generation having entered the world...more involved in each other's lives than ever...by choice. I've never been happier in my life.

Hang in there, Jan. I contend that they don't need you less, just different. There's a great life on the other side...

Thanks for sharing...

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Stillidealistic, Your story is very helpful. As much as I hate to admit it, I don't think I've ever gotten over the loss of my marriage and the family unit we had. It is very ordinary to get divorced; only extraordinary people make their marriages work. Bravo to you! [The "Absence makes the heart grow fonder" has an opposite: "Out of sight out of mind" -- Good for you for meeting the challenge.]

I admire you for finding a way to savor your memories and also keep them for everyone else. I'm not ready to look at all those old photos yet, but will keep your ideas in mind. I completely agree with your comment that the way our children need us changes over the years. I know they depend on me in many ways, and I depend on my daughter for her deep support of me as well. The boys -- they need to get a little more mature before I can rely on them for support, but they sure are good to have around! Thanks for responding.


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Children are the whole point, being the future, which is the only reason to give a damn about anything.

That said, I like it when mine show up, although I know they have to make a new life without me.

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I agree, Tom. Oddly, in some ways I miss the boy's presence more than my daughter's because even though she is farther away, we talk frequently, and I have complete confidence that she is always going to land on her feet. Also, I had her 4 years at college (45 minutes away from home) to get used to her not being around all the time while still having the guys at home.

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Touching. My parents (esp. my mom) complains all the time about how big the house seems now that her kids moved six hours of plane ride away from her. When I was living with them, I wanted to move away as far and fast as I could. Now I yearn for their company.

I envy friends with families in the tri-state area, just a subway ride or couple of hours drive from their homes. It's a real luxury- having a bad night, city tiring you or a family celebration- you can always go home.

I'm sure your kids love you more, now that they're away.

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kash - Good to hear from the other side of this. I appreciate what you're saying. I was also ready to go as far as possible when I finished school. I planned to go to Australia but my "temporary" job became permanent as I made friends and settled down. I still love Australia, but am happy that I stayed nearby.

Thanks for responding (oh, and thanks for those great clips!)

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CD --
Empty nest is something we think we will enjoy and when it occurs we are knocked down by the hollow echo chamber of it.
It took me a long time to get over it, but I think I learned some things in the process that might be helpful:
1) TheraP suggested sitting with your feelings and she is surely right. I would take that one step further and urge you to go ahead and grieve for a while; sob your heart out when you're at home and it strikes you, as the effort to bottle it up will almost surely result in spillovers when you least expect it, when it can be not only dismaying but sometimes embarrassing -- at work, for example, or on the date you will have. Not good. So treat yourself to kleenex in every room now and have at it.
2) Gradually allow yourself to see alone time in an empty house as a gift of peace and order you earned. I say allow yourself because, in hindsight, I experienced the initial moments of pleasure in the tranquility as causes for guilt, as if even a moment's pleasure was somehow being disloyal to my son.
I admit that this part of the process took me years: a) because I am a slow learner; and b) because I secretly quite liked the loud music and rampant disorder. In fact, when my son's friends TPd the house, I was vaguely charmed by the effect; it reminded me of Christo, the artist who wraps buildings and fields.
But I digress. The point is that there will be that turning point day when, without feeling disloyal, you will be pleased to note that, for example, only one container of juice in the fridge is open at a time. And that the consistent absence of moldering piles of athletic socks is not, in fact, a loss to your quality of life. Etc.
3) Look forward to spontaneous outbreaks of affection from your children, which will now become even more meaningful and therefore bring you greater pleasure. So that the mild glow you felt from a "Love ya, Mom" when they still home, but dashing out the door, becomes a moment of real joy when it comes from a distance. It means they are actually thinking about you, and missing you, not just offering an exit line.
Hope this helps, a bit.
As to sorting your house, absolutely call in your chits with your most outspoken friends and demand their participation with a promise of reciprocity. You simply can't do it alone; it's too depressing. Much better to be surrounded by friends who have your best interests at heart, who are therefore perfectly willing to firmly suggest that they throw out an object you think you treasure, but the contemplation of which will cause you to lose ground and prolong the agony.
If you're not ready for that, damn the cost and rent a big storage unit so you can start fresh in your new empty nest life. Pack your history with your friends while you drink good wine, then hire a mover and have him take it all to storage, while you go to the appointment you cleverly made for a massage, manicure and pedicure.
Or do none of these things.... except to give yourself permission to do it your way, whatever way that is.
I'll be thinking of you, Jan. I have enormous respect for your intelligence, moral compass without righteousness, and real wit. Just repeat after me " I know that it's actually good on the other side...."

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ww, I have noticed that you often respond to my comments, and always say something interesting and inciteful. These comments are particularly helpful, and I will reread them often. Writing this blog brought me as close to tears as I have been in a very long time. I find it almost impossible to cry, and I think it would do me a world of good. There are times that I really do enjoy being here by myself without anyone asking me for anything; I don't feel guilty about that per se, but I do sometimes beat myself up for sins of omission, and how I could have done a better job.

I am especially looking forward to those spontaneous affections -- I have already noticed that, a little.

As to the practical job of jettisoning stuff -- I just have to start, one room at a time. For someone who has a hard time getting rid of a broken-down car because of all the times it took us to the beach; it is a daunting task to get rid of things, but I'll feel a whole lot better once I do.

Thanks for all your suggestions and your support.

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Jan, another perspective -

When all else fails, think of the ironic flip side: odds are, one or more of your children will come home again, particularly in these treacherous economic times.

It happened to me when not only my own house, but also my son's bachelor pad at the beach were wiped out by Hurricane Ivan. (As it was really bizarre that the only thing left of his house was a strand of Mardi Gras beads draped over the drainage pipe of the washing machine, which was MIA.)

Curious experience, that regrouping. Certainly loving, but definitely circling each other, in minimal alternate housing, each of us not entirely successful at disguising a wish that we had more autonomous space.

Extremely guilt-inducing for a mother, of course. Not so much for my son -- who once left a bag of groceries by the door (when I had a bad case of flu) with a note explaining that he was off to New Orleans with friends and hoped when he got back I would be better.

There's humor there, eh?

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You bring to mind something someone just told me about. She lost a baby at 4 months, and the way it was handled by the professionals who were giving her "care" was unbelievably heartless. She told me her husband just didn't know what to do to comfort her; he offered her all kinds of food, and finally he gave her the remote.

She realized that was the most loving and supporting thing he could do, and she appreciated it for that reason. I'm sure your son couldn't stand to see you sick, and that is why he left the groceries the way he did. When I had breast cancer my kids were very young, but they couldn't cope with seeing me down, so I got up really fast and that is because I couldn't stand it either.

We have to accept people the way they are and find joy in the funny crinkles, eh?

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Hey CVille - I can empathize to some degree - our only child (son) started college 500 miles away this year, and it has been quite a transition for me and my wife. I can only imagine how hard it would be for both of us if we were not together to support each other. Having been separated at one time, we now have a much deeper understanding of how heavy the emotional load can be for single parents. I wish you the best, and would just suggest that you take care not to slip into depression, and seek support (whatever is available and appropriate, whether it be friends, a group of some kind, or a counselor - some steady support can make all the difference).

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Thanks. I was feeling pretty glum when I wrote this original post, and I feel better just reading and responding to all of you. Thanks!

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CVille: It is much harder than we thought it would be isn't it? When my youngest left in August for his freshman year I could not believe how painful it was. My three boys have exited slowly, the first in 2003 to West Point (he's now in Kabul), the second is now a junior in college, and the last is gone off for his first year. I can only say two things that might help. First, stay in touch with all of them constantly. I learned how to IM years ago since that was the easiest way to keep up with them. I don't worry about whether I'm bothering them--they will tell me if I am. I think you do have to work harder with boys than girls. Second, and you won't believe this, but after a while you get used to their absence, and when they come home, their clutter and noise and constant hunger (boys), and late nights out make you look forward (kind of a little bit almost) to their leaving (until the car pulls away and you stand there crying in the driveway). Hang in there. You have lots of company Chin up!
Kate

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KateO, It is obvious that you know the feeling. At least I know all my kids are (relatively) nearby. It must be so hard to have your son off in Kabul. You make me realize how lucky I am.

One of my sons (the one who copped an attitude during his last 2 years in high school) chats with me on his cell phone more than he did in person over the summer! He called me earlier today and told me how much he missed being home and how he's looking forward to it. When I reminded him that he has only got $5 left in his checking account, and how was he going to gas up his car to get home, instead of an aggravated answer, I got this: "Mom, just to let you know how on top of things I am, I want you to know that the car is full of gas right now."

He always was a witty kid, but he hid it from me for the last 2 years. Yes, Kate, I think we're going to make it!

Thanks for your response, and I hope your oldest is home safe and sound soon.

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See, he figured it out! We work so hard to make sure they can and when they do, sometimes we can't believe it! Sounds like everyone will be fine and yes, the way we communicate once they are gone changes. I think boys find it easier to say meaningful things on the phone or electronically because they are so incompetent in person (and I mean that lovingly). Enjoy your time with them, it becomes more special the more they are away. We are looking forward to January when Peter gets 10 days R&R. Now, I am not looking forward at all to his departure again. You will have to scrape me off the floor. Hope you have a very happy holiday with all of them! Good luck with the packing.

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No kids myself, so I can't comment on a direct personal basis, still, I've seen it happen in my family. My sister's house is big and nearly empty now, with the kids off making their futures.

They remain the wonderful people they are, and they remain forward-looking.

You'll find your way, after a period of adjustment. And here's hoping you do well with it. I suspect you will.

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Hey, you're not such an old grouch! Thanks for stopping in!

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Oh, but I am - when it's called for. and I couldn't quite make "doesn't suffer fools gladly" into a good nom-de-blog.

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My heart goes out to you CVille. Both of my middle aged sons live far away from me and from each other. They have busy lives of their own and don't get *home* very often. I still miss them and the family unit we had before the divorce almost 30 years ago. Perhaps being single moms makes us feel the emptiness of the nest more intensely, too.

My advice is to keep them as close as you can as long as you can and at the same time work to build your own life. You are lucky to have a girl because my experience tells me they tend to stay closer to home - not all of them of course, but as a rule. Keep us posted on your progress.

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Thanks for your comments. Yes, doing it alone was not what I anticipated, but I do have 3 wonderful adults I am sending out into the world. My original family isn't close, and I am happy to say that my kids seem to be truly attached to each other.

I am planning to dip into my savings and take them all to Mexico this summer to see the Mayan ruins and swim with whale sharks. If I don't do it pretty soon, they'll start having families and other attachments that will make it impossible.

Something to look forward to.

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Don't just plan it, do it. Make sure it happens. You will never regret it. We got one family trip to Europe and several to Hawaii in before my oldest step daughter (1/2 sister to my 2 kids) died of melanoma last year. They are trips that were near and dear to our hearts, and are even more special now that she is gone.

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Wow, You can bet I will not let it slide. Thanks, stillidealistic; and so sorry to hear about your family's loss. I took the boys to Barcelona for Thanksgiving last year to see Lucy, who was there for a semester. It was 5 days we'll never forget!

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Jan, just want to add my appreciation for your refreshingly honest voice on tough topics. I'm willing to bet that you raised great kids, the kind we need in this new century. Lucky them. And thanks for staying around here at TPM, too. Lucky us!

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Thanks, Seashell, and glad to see you! I don't see your comments as often as I used to, but I always enjoy them. I am truly proud of my kids; they are honest and good, and have a curiosity and faith in the world that humbles me daily!

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I appreciate the blog, C'ville. As the single-parent of a high schooler I am going to "be there" soon enough.

You've mentioned your kids here and there once in a while, and they do sound like great kids.

It's also great to hear they grow out of high school, at this point I can't imagine it. I keep telling myself what a relief it will be when the kid is gone, but I suspect it will be anything but a relief.

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Thanks for the reality check. It would be great if you could post the photo of the albino deer. Isn't that an omen of good things to come?

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I felt the same way: tired of always reminding them of things they needed to do, and arguing when they didn't do them, and thinking -- I want to have some peace! Now the peace is here, and I miss my little angels (which is a fiction that helps me feel lousy!) But you know? This whole discussion has actually helped me a lot. It really helps to write about feelings and also to get others' perspectives, and I appreciate so much all the time and thought people have put into their responses.

As to the white deer: I simply can't download pictures onto my new Macbook (!) I'll do it tomorrow at work and you can see it -- fair warning -- it looks like a long-legged goat, but beautiful all the same.

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OK, now I have the picture on my computer. How do I put it in a message?

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I think that you can edit your post above and put it in there as an update.

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I don't know how to get it into TPM! I am hopeless! When I want to include a photo in an email I click on an "attachment" icon and then browse. I don't see anything like that here. Any ideas?

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I remember well when you went back to work; I think it was around the same time I did, too (my first kid was three back then), and I appreciated the companion piece to this one that you wrote then. I'm still a long way from an empty nest, but I see that the slow separation process has started for us, too, and I can't really imagine it ending. Thanks for sharing, and hang in there!

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Is this Devon, of long memory? I've missed you. And I see you've wondered about Eric Stepp and Lucicity. He had a baby in Sept or so. Couldn't afford to keep the site up for now. He sent out emails to some of us who had joined there - or maybe people who had posted quite a bit. Wish he'd come back here.

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It's me - I'm mostly too busy to post anymore, but I lurk still.

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Don't be a stranger Jan!

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Stay well.

I hope coming here helps. I certainly value your comments.

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I know exactly how you feel. I was so proud that I raised two independent, resourceful kids and thought I was prepared when they left home, but I still grieved for two years per child. I just missed them so much.

Then, I kinda got used to the rhythms of college life and getting to see them holidays, and suddenly, within a couple months of each other, they graduated college. My daughter left for New York (she's in L.A. now) and my son joined the Marines and went off to war.

I was COMPLETELY unprepared.

It just felt like an amputation! I kept thinking about how amputees report phantom pains in the limbs that are no longer there, and I knew what that meant, psychically speaking.

My son is back in Texas now but still 400 miles away. Both kids miss being home, too. Not all the time of course, but they miss being able to be here, with us, and in the country, when they feel the need.

There has been great wisdom on this page, and I agree--let yourself grieve. Don't push yourself too hard, too fast. Give yourself time. It's going to take a while to adjust, and that's normal. Treasure the calls and e-mails and texts; you can still remain close.

You mentioned the white deer in your yard. I'm part Cherokee, and Native traditions take great store in animals that show themselves to you in a way that can be sacred. In the book, "Animal-Speak, the Spiritual and Magical Powers of Creatures Great and Small," by Ted Andrews, he says this:

"When deer show up in your life it is time to be gentle with yourself and others. A new innocence and freshness is about to be awakened or born. There is going to be a gentle, enticing lure of new adventures. Ask yourself important questions. Are you trying to force things? Are others? Are you being too critical and uncaring of yourself? When deer show up there is an opportunity to express gentle love that will open new doors of adventure for you."

God bless, dear.

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Deanie, When I saw your comment on SI's blog I checked to see if you had written something here. As usual, your words mean more than anyone could predict. I said this experience was like a "hole" in my life. You describe it as an amputation.

I just read a very interesting article in the New Yorker about amputations and phantom pains. To shorten a several-page essay more than it deserves, the thing I took away was this: If amputees spent time in front of a mirror that was placed so that it looked like they had bilateral limbs, their symptoms improved! In other words, the symptoms didn't generate in the nerve endings that were cut, but in the brain, and if you could fool the brain, the symptoms improved.

Although what I am going through is far less than an amputation, the pain cannot be relieved by my children; I have to do that by getting going. Now I can expand my horizons and challenge myself. I have to look at that carefully placed mirror and see myself as whole, and then believe that I can do what is best for me.

Your comments about the deer are interesting. I have seen it before, but never in my yard, this time I saw it from my deck. I stood and watched it for a while, and then went into my house, re-opened the door, moved towards her (a doe) and took her picture. She is clearly looking at me too. Human albinos have visual problems, and maybe so do deer, but I was struck by how vulnerable she was because she just kept standing there as I left and ultimately aimed a camera at her. In the picture there are about 5 other deer that you can barely see.

I sincerely hope you are right, and it is a message from this deer that it is time to re-evaluate and also to forgive myself, but I also fear for her life with hunters who would probably love to have her beautiful luminescence up on their wall.

Anyway, thank you, as always for your thoughtful words. I wish you were closer! Like in Charlottesville, VA!

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I think you're making progress already, Jan... You are going to be fine. Better than fine. You're going to be good.

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Hey Deanie, my dear, what do you make of a Great Blue Heron? When my dad was dying in 2003 this beautiful creature appeared on our farm every day--on the barn roof, in the pond, on the garage roof. The dogs would chase him but he came back every day. He left after my Dad died. When my stepson went off to war, I looked for him for months. He has shown up again in the past week, even though the pond is frozen and the frogs and pumpkinseeds are out of reach. I am frozen with fear. I see him as a good omen, but you know how it goes with a child in theater. What does the Great Blue Heron mean to the Cherokee? Our local tribe is the Patuxent, and I have asked a friend of a friend to ask an elder. You cling to a lot when you have so little to go on, eh?

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