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Joy Behar - A voice of reason in a sea of ignorance
I saw a clip of "The View" yesterday where the hosts were discussing darwinism vs creationism and what should be taught in our schools and to our children. First of all - good job to Joy Behar - for not being afraid to stand up to the right wing screech in Elizabeth Hassleback, and for not beating up on Sherri Shepherd, because it would have come across as picking on the mentally challenged. But that insults the mentally challenged - as they often have the ability to put together rational thoughts, and Sherri Shepherd is a walking ad for forced sterilization.
So - there was an argument about whether evolution (or "darwinism" in this argument) should be taught to our kids in school instead of creationism. You'll never guess which two geniuses were coming down on the side of teaching creationism to our children. Now - for those of you who are a little shaky on exactly what that means - here's quick breakdown:
- The Universe (including the Earth and all life upon it) was created by God in seven literal days, sometime about 6000 years ago.
- All of the supposed "scientific" data about the Universe being between 13.5 and 14 billion years old are really just tricks laid out by "that ol' devil" to test our faith in the Lord.
- The science of carbon dating and radiometric dating - which has been used to date dinosaur bones and other fossilized materials, as well as rocks, etc. is really just a trick used by - you guessed it - "that ol' devil" to test our faith in the Lord.
- Dinosaur bones were planted by the Lord to test or faith, or were planted by that tricky rascal the devil to make us reject God when we questioned things - or Dinosaurs lived peacefully alongside man, even being brought on Noah's Ark
- God made Adam and Eve - and they gave birth to brothers Cain and Able. As we know from the bible, Cain killed able. So, it stands to reason that if Cain took a wife out into the desert when he was banished to the land of Nod, it would have been a sister of his. OR - since he and his father were the only two dudes around, they could have pulled a train on Eve and he could have been the father of his own wife. But as the bible is the inerrant word of God, and there was no mention of other peoples on the Earth, we must accept that there were none.
Now - this is "Young Earth Creationism" - which is the form that I'm certain Sheri Shepherd believes in. As much as I'd like to take on that shrieking shrew Elizabeth Hassleback - I only have time to take on the complete imbecile today.
So - Sheri believes that the World is Flat, that no people on the Earth predate Christians, and that Evolution is a demon scientific theory given to us by -- one more time -- yup -- "bad ol' satan" to make us believe we came from monkeys.
Joy Behar stated that if you teach your children that creationism is real, and that evolution is false - you are doing such a disservice to them that it constitutes Child Abuse. Sure - your first thought is NO WAY - A PARENT CAN TEACH THEIR CHILD WHATEVER THEY WANT.
Well - if you take that position - do you feel that the child should be able to sue the parent for the disadvantages they will suffer when they have to go out into the World and compete for grades in college or jobs in the workforce?
The bottom line is that we should be a Country that keeps the M.F. Creationist views, and their bastard stepchildren Intelligent Design as far away from our Science classes as possible. Don't teach a controversy just because you manufactured one to give your ignorant beliefs credence. And if you do - I think CPS should have the right to pay you a visit. If you can't be adult enough to understand that the Universe and the Earth are older than 6000 years - perhaps you should be sterilized so that you can't screw up anything else.
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"right wing screech"
"picking on the mentally retarded"
"a walking ad for forced sterilization"
"pulled a train on Eve"
"shrieking shrew"
"complete imbecile"
"ignorant beliefs"
"perhaps you should be sterilized"
Something I have noticed over the years, when people use words like above, invariably, their own arguments are very weak.
You think Elizabet Hasselback's views do not respect science, so you are disrespectful toward her. Are we going around in circles?
May 6, 2009 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
You have a solid argument, yes. Notwithstanding, I personally find his phraseology engrossing and colorful, albeit elementary. I feel his particular parlance encouraging of response in it's demotic appeal.
May 6, 2009 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh snap!
May 6, 2009 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes - I am disrespectful toward Elizabeth Hassleback's point of view - because it is scientifically ignorant - and it actually hurts our planet.
May 6, 2009 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Insolent Braggart: Keep it up!
May 7, 2009 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are implying that Elizabeth Hassleback-ites of the world can be reasoned with to a mutually satisfying conclusion. Their fundamental starting point for reasoning is unhinged. As such, there is no common ground for starting a thoughtful discourse. No circular argument because it never really starts.
I don't know. Maybe the devil is confusing me. Maybe that devil made Yoo and Bybee write those things. Maybe the devil made Bush order Iraq's invasion.
Passive ignorance can be remedied. Purposeful proactive misinformation is harmful, unjust and disrespectful to humanity.
It is worthy of ridicule as a way to expose its failure. It seems to work for Stewart/Colbert anyway.
May 7, 2009 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am declaring a war on Wedge Issues.
May 6, 2009 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, then you have to give up rooting for the Red Sox. Right?
May 6, 2009 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Faroff: Good one! (Although the Sox seems to have the balanced tipped in their direction these days, which is nice...)
May 7, 2009 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
1. Macro-Evolution is not a fact it is a theory
2. Intelligent design is not a fact it is a theory
Which theory is true? NO ONE KNOWS!!! that is why it is called a theory. Should one theory be taught in schools over another? Absolutely not.
Can you honestly say with an open mind that the Theory of evolution is infallible and that there is no possible way that something else could be true.
Again for those who follow blindly that Macro-Evolution is a proven fact please do a Google search, it is not. That is why it is called "The Theory of Evolution" not the "Fact of Evolution".
May 7, 2009 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yffrules - are you really that stupid? Really? Come on - REALLY?
Intelligent design is a way to get creationism discussed - when it's proven to be false. The bible is supposedly infallible? WEll - guess what - it's a collection of stories that were passed on in the oral tradition until they were written down - but that didn't make them any less myth than the Greek Gods.
But again - intelligent design? I'll stand behind the intellectual GIANTS that back evolution - you can stand behind the intellectual MIDGETS that back ID. That's perhaps one of the best reasons why getting your degree in science from a Christian university is such a waste of time for humanity. The only thing you're likely to "discover" is that you weren't good enough to go somewhere like MIT
May 7, 2009 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
"'ll stand behind the intellectual GIANTS that back evolution - you can stand behind the intellectual MIDGETS that back ID."
Ever hear of Dr. Francis Collins? One of the primary geneticists behind the human genome project.
He discussed how the elements of science and an overall belief in God can coexist. He is infinitely smarter than either you or I.
I don't like the idea of creationism per se, but more importantly, I hate people like Joy Behar telling people you need to think one way or your an idiot.
All great truths start as blasphemy, and I believe in the concepts of Evolution, but I also believe that God created us all, the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.
May 8, 2009 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink