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H1N1 Virus - If You Need Health/Emergency Care Who Pays?


When an adult or child gets the H1N1 flu and ends up going to the doctor and possibly even to the hospital which could then lead to being admitted into ICU because they need to be on a ventilator or watched very closely while on a BiPap machine - who pays for that health care if the patient doesn't have health insurance?

Currently the H1N1 flu shot is free to all Americans because this virus is a pandemic, at least that's what I understand it to be.  The federal government paid for the vaccinations.  Does that mean that the health care of any serious illness related to H1N1 will also be paid for by the federal government?

While thinking about this issue it occurred to me that this one illness could be used as a very good reason for health care reform, health care for all, and yes with a public option plan.

The GOP constantly push the idea of terrorism and the many ways we could be attacked again if we don't' stay alert.  Well, what do they recommend if something 'were' to actually happen; how do they plan on covering (caring for) possibly thousands of Americans that may be exposed to something like a bio-chemical attack or some virus like an Ebola virus attack?

Just imagine the loss of income for the hospitals, doctors, nurses, office personnel, emergency personnel, the victim and their families, etc..., if God forbid, something catastrophic were to actually happen.  Would the GOP be willing to use taxpayer money to pay for the losses incurred?  Somehow I doubt it.

Even if we were never attacked in this manner, a simple flu like the H1N1 could wipe a family's savings away.  What will happen to them?  Can we avoid this in the future?  Sure we can.  Offer affordable health care for all with a public option that is even more affordable to the poorest among us.


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This is why we need a much more integrated Public Health System! H1N1 is a perfect example.

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Critically Ill Swine Flu Patients Spend Weeks in Intensive Care

Nov. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Swine flu sufferers who developed life-threatening complications during the pandemic’s initial wave in Ireland occupied intensive-care beds for weeks, pointing to a potential area of strain from any winter surge in cases.

Nineteen patients with the new H1N1 virus admitted to intensive care units from April 28 to Oct. 3 stayed an average of 25 days, Irish health officials said in a study yesterday. More than half were still in ICU on Oct. 13, when the study was being prepared, marking one patient’s 62nd day of critical care.

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This is good example of why we need health care reform and coverage for ALL. The GOP could even be attacked for not covering all sides of a terrorism act against America.....by voting NO to health care reform for ALL.

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I thought I had H1N1, but it's just an upper respiratory/sinus infection. The swab up the nose I could've lived without. (ack!!)

Lots of sick people wearing masks in the waiting room. I wouldn't have even gone, but my boss wanted to know if it was H1N1, which is reasonable, and my daughter woke up with the sniffles, so I kept her out of school, and they want to know.

They tell people to stay home, but the schools and workplaces say to see the doctors.

I dunno, I am glad I don't have H1N1, but I wonder how many of us really had to be there, if not pressured to check by business and schools.

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attitudes are changing about potential harm from pandemics. it is better to err on caution's side, and not allow a virus to multiply through inaction.

a nose swab is a pretty creepy concept though...i would think a throat swab would have been just as efficacious too.

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Especially with a sinus infection (yow!)

I needs a ((cyantshug))

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Have you tried a nettie pot, Bwak? They are awesome...

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I second that!

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wot is that?

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ack! thanks

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xoxo

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Thanks, I feel better.

=D

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This is a life threatening illness for many groups in this country, Bwak. You did the right thing in going.

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Great to see you, Bev! Thanks. I was a pretty sick chicken. I'm feeling way better today, now that the antibiotics and other stuff has kicked in.

I'm glad I went, too. Back to work tomorrow, tho.

Ack!

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It's a little ceramic teapot looking thing. You pour a saline solution into one nostril...It goes up into your sinuses and comes out the other nostril. It is soothing and healing. Can be used as a preventative measure as well, as soon as your sinuses start to bother you.

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I second that, Still. A doctor I knew in Charleston patented something similar, what was effectively a Waterpik for sinuses. Sounds disgusting, but actually quite soothing. The same doctor advised me to never, ever use chemical nose drops, but rather, to use only saline solutions like Ocean or Ayr.
He was right. The nettie pot is the same deal. Invaluable.

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Ack!

Salt, on my crusty beak! I think NOT! Maybe next time. The swab was horrid enough. Made me tear up and everything. I made the nurse laugh tho, because I said, "um, thank you."

She said there weren't too many folks that said that. No manners, I guess.

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Silly, chicken! It is a really gentle solution, not yucky at all...It's actually kinda fun! Seriously...I think you'll like it!

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Cmauk... that's a helluva good idea!

WHAT IF there were a real medical emergency? What if there were some kind of bio-attack? Use their own fear tactics against them to motivate their ass!

It's in everybody's best interest to make sure "who pays" isn't a concern. A system that pays doctors and hospitals should be in place anyway.

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By the way, where I in live in Eastern Europe, H1N1 is officially an epidemic with everybody covered in masks, but I think it's mass panic and silliness. Still, I got sick yesterday and I checked the symptoms on the old Google and they kind of matched up -- but then I didn't get too terribly sick and I must not have it. Just a bad cold.

But I *did* research the treatment. And what is it? Blood transfusions? Medevac'ed out somewhere on choppers?

No, you're supposed to stay home for about a week, rest up and don't go outside till one day after the fever subsides. And that was it. If you've got loved ones at home, they can go about their business and go to work as usual. So one gets the impression it's become a wee bid, uh, sensationalized.

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My son called me Wednesday at 7 am and said he was dizzy and hot. I was at his apartment by 7:45 and his temp was >103 F, and he had a terrible sounding cough. I took him right to the emergency room where I work, he was seen within minutes, diagnosed presumptively with H1N1 and got a prescription for Tamiflu and one for Vicodin (he had a killer headache). I went to our locally owned pharmacy and was home with him by 10 am and he had already taken his meds in the car.

He was markedly better the next day and by Friday his temp was normal and he was tired, but okay. Sunday he was completely recovered.

The secret is to get treatment right away after symptoms begin. I don't know what the ER visit cost. The Tamiflu was $86, and my copay was $24.

I seem to have dodged the bullet myself; I was so careful and washed my hands every 5 minutes. I somehow got a terrible cold, but no flu symptoms and so I think I'm safe.

How many people without insurance will go right away to get care? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't, and the point of Tamiflu is that you end up being contagious a shorter time, and you also are far less likely to develop the complications associated with bad outcomes.

For a country that has relied on the local grocery store to manage public health, it is time to wake up and go kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

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very good story.The next best thing to preventative medicine is fast and effective medical care following the diagnosis.

Very gooooood example of how health care is supposed to work.

And it has a happy ending.

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