Is Limbaugh the GOP's --Michael Moore?
On Hannity's America tonight, host Sean Hannity interviewed conservative talker Rush Limbaugh. In one of his first questions, Hannity attempted to portray the media as being unfair to Limbaugh by characterizing him as wanting President Obama to fail as president. Limbaugh, however, quickly corrected Hannity, insisting that he does indeed want Obama to fail:
HANNITY: Last time I'm here, I ask you...do you want [Obama] to succeed. You gave a very long answer that got reduced to Rush wants Obama to fail. Which wasn't what you said.
LIMBAUGH: Well, in a sense it was. It was. I don't hide from it, I do want and I still want Obama to fail.
Remember how the GOP went after Michael Moore for things he said during the Bush years with his Farenheit 911 movie and his comments during the Bush vs Kerry campaign?
Perhaps the Democrats should revisit the past and watch how the GOP made Moore pretty much look like an extreme mad man.
Here's a little something that was written about Moore from David T. Hardy's website that got over a million hits:
Should a 400 lb man advise us on the evils of over-consumption?
Should the resident of a million-dollar apartment claim to be a poster boy of the working class?
Should a person who thought that Enron was a great investment, that Ralph Nader, Wesley Clark and John Kerry would win, and that North Korea's Kim Jong was changing for the better, advise us on ANYTHING?
The writer of this same website was accusing Moore of being narcissistic:
Here is (one) good definition of the narcissistic disorder, from the above link:
"A pattern of traits and behaviors which signify infatuation and obsession with one's self to the exclusion of all others and the egotistic and ruthless pursuit of one's gratification, dominance and ambition. . . . An all-pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behaviour), need for admiration or adulation and lack of empathy, usually beginning by early adulthood and present in various contexts. Five (or more) of the following criteria must be met:"
"Feels grandiose and self-important"
"Is obsessed with fantasies of unlimited success, fame, fearsome power or omnipotence, . . ."
"Firmly convinced that he or she is unique and, being special, can only be understood by, should only be treated by, or associate with, other special or unique, or high-status people (or institutions)"
"Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation - or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be notorious (narcissistic supply)"
"Feels entitled. Expects unreasonable or special and favorable priority treatment. Demands automatic and full compliance with his or her expectations."
Now I ask you folks. Who in the HECK does this REALLY remind YOU more of?
Michael Moore or Rush Limbaugh?Perhaps the Democrats need to study up on how the GOP demonized Michael Moore and do the same to Rush?













I agree all the way up until the end part. Dick Cheney not withstanding (we have to become a little more like the terrorists) we are democrats, and we are better than them. We don't need you use their tactics - getting the truth out there will definitely suffice.
Great definitions by the way. Recd
June 4, 2009 1:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Terrific post. Using their own words and posturing to illustrate how they twist and turn to their own negative agenda is truly a good thing.
Rush and his cohorts are the ones who keeps failing and falling.
Thanks Coonsey. Rec'd.
Note: Agree with mageduley about the truth is all we need and should endorse. And yes, I know the last sentence was only 'snark'. Fun to contemplate their reaction tho'.
June 4, 2009 2:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Michael Moore, for all his bloviation (and he does seem to like the sound of his own voice on occasion) does at least display some connection to reality. Limbaugh, on the other hand, might well be pontificating from an alternate universe in terms of the quality of his intersections with the truth.
June 4, 2009 8:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Amen, TOG!
June 4, 2009 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hannity interviewing Limbaugh reminds me of those reporters that interview each other at some huge event where there is no actual story to find. You know, like there's some great big whoopie doo about something and half a million people show up and nothing happens. So the media interviews its self.
Oh, brother. Way over there in the right wing....there's nothing happening, man.
June 4, 2009 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
What happening is that Rush is circling the drain and needs to get on a publicity tour. He actually "resigned" as titular head of the GOP the other day. But there are no replacements.
June 4, 2009 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rec'd. What a complete insult to Michael Moore. I like MM. I appreciate the perspectives he has put out in the limelight, especially on healthcare. We need more Michael Moore's as far as I'm concerned.
Someone asked me the question 'if you were a superhero what power would you have' and I chose the power to 'the severely ignorant' people. I wish.
June 4, 2009 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Michael Moore does research. He has a lot of guts. Good maker of documentaries.
rush can talk for three hours straight. I oftimes wonder who writes his stuff. Probably 5 or 6 writers?
This Ed guy on MSNBC, with less hate and vitriol brings a left wing voice to the heavy white guy...
He was and still is the top liberal radio voice.
It says something about us does it not that rush commands so many listeners? Just amazes me.
June 4, 2009 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
"It says something about us does it not that rush commands so many listeners? Just amazes me.
Posted by dickday"
Yes, it tells us that there are a lot of ignoramuses out there!
June 4, 2009 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
hahahaaha. I am afraid so. Or just angry and resentful sickos.
June 4, 2009 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
or "All of the above" :)
June 4, 2009 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
So the question is, how do we reach those Zom-Bushes that still tune into Rush? Or FOX?
June 4, 2009 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
We don't. Not even worth trying. They are far enough removed from the world of reason that there's little if any hope.
Move 'em to Texas and encourage the secessionists.
June 4, 2009 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oklahoma tooo, Grouch. Do not forget. The dumbest senators reside there.
June 4, 2009 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
You see, I'm an optimist. I think, over time, we can get some of them. We have a bunch of converts right here, afterall.
June 5, 2009 2:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Micheal Moore offends people with the truth, his films are well researched and well done, they tend to make people uncomfortable because he challenges convetional wisdon, or at least conventional right-wing wisdom.
Rush Limbaugh makes offensive crap up, mostly in the defense of conventional right wing wisdom, I almsot guarantee that if you listen to Rsh Limbaugh for more than a half hour he will say something that is demonstrateably false, I would challenge youto find anything in a Moore movie or book that is not true.
This a false equivelence at its worst.
June 4, 2009 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. The only Michael Moore claim I've found thatI can't verify is the one from Fahrenheit 911 where he claims that Karzai was a one time consultant for Unocal.
June 4, 2009 11:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
I need to proof-read my comments in the future. I always thought one of Moore's best interviews was the one he did with Charleton Heston, he exposed the old racist for what he was a sad old hateful man who ws clinging to guns as his only friend. Of course he was critiisized in most circles which completely covered up the point that the leader of the NRA was a hateful lonely old man.
Moore says a lot of smart stuff that is almost always drowned out by people yelling that he is fat. As apposed to Rush Limbaugh who says a lot of stupid stuff that should be drowned out by the fact that he is a drug addicted philanderer, but I guess the right wing and much of the establishment likes drug addicted philanderers.
June 4, 2009 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I actually felt bad for Charlton Heston when I saw that interview. I always admired him as an actor, and he apparently had a long, happy family life, but his NRA stance was over the top. When he died, I read that he marched against segregation in the early 1960s and supported licensing and regulation of firearms in the late 1960s, but couldn't accept stronger progressive positions like affirmative action or the SAG refusal to let white actors play other races.
In this respect he reminds me of my parents, who raised me to respect black people but later in life adopted the dittohead attitude.
June 4, 2009 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
My own feeling about Moore's ambush of Charleton Heston was that it was actually one of his low points. I had no respect for Heston, and laughed more times than one at his stupid NRA rants, but he had been diagnosed with Alzheimer's and Michael Moore knew it. That was low--a moment that was cringeworthy, in my view. By the time Moore went after him, he was no longer a threat and was, in fact, a very sick man. An easy target.
I agree almost always with Michael Moore's message, but there are times when his message gets lost in the midst of his anger and his antics. Still, I'm glad he's out there making documentaries that expose the vermin that are always among us.
With Heston, though, he lost me. Too cruel. Much too cruel.
June 4, 2009 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has anybody ever seen a photo or story about Rush Limbaugh being in same room with Michael Moore?
June 4, 2009 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Coonsey your idea is a misfire:
(1) Moore creates documentary films that seek to reveal the truth about major issues in society and are good enough to win major national and international film awards. To make the films he does research, gathers facts, travels and employs hundreds of people.
(2) Limbaugh is a pill popping clown who spouts hate speech from a studio to entertain his bigoted listeners while asking them to send him money as a way to support the troops. link
(2) Unless you can take over Fox News and/or other propaganda organs of the wingnutoshpere you have little chance of changing the distorted view of reality of the 'Bush Base', for Rush Limbaugh, or anything else in the twisted fantasy land in which they live.
June 4, 2009 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
You miss the POINT NobleCommentDecider of my post.
The point wasn't to compare Rush with Moore. It was to use the SAME TACTICS that GOP used against Moore to demonize him -- on Rush Limbaugh.
June 4, 2009 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, go for it.
June 4, 2009 10:03 PM | Reply | Permalink