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Obama is NOT FDR


Ted Rall has a column out comparing Obama with FDR and even
going as far to say his policies have been more in line with Hoover.
Here is a bit of it.
Long after World War II ended the Depression once and
for all, Americans made use of New Deal-era labor: "The
WPA built or improved 651,000 miles of roads, 19,700
miles of water mains and 500 water treatment plants.
Workers built 24,000 miles of sidewalks; 12,800
playgrounds; 24,000 miles of storm and sewer lines;
1,200 airport buildings; 226 hospitals; more than 5,900
schools, and more than two million privies," according
to a PBS special about the New Deal. There's plenty of
work to do now: the U.S. needs a national high-speed
rail system to compete with European and Asian
countries, not to mention new mass transit systems and
school buildings. Pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq and
hire Americans to start building!

Nine months into his presidency, however, it is clear
that Obama is more Hoover than FDR. There has been
virtually no investment in public infrastructure. There
will be no public jobs programs. According to The New
York Times, "Obama's economic advisers are sifting
options for a new package of tax cuts and other job
creation measures to be unveiled in next year's State
of the Union address."

No one in Congress has proposed a single jobs-creation
bill. Instead, they're working to extend unemployment
benefits to 79 weeks. "As Democrats have found, aiding
those who have lost their jobs," comments the Times,
"is simpler than preventing more layoffs and creating
more jobs."

Is Obama stupid? Or is he crazy? More than one out of
five Americans is jobless. Many more are underemployed.
There are six jobseekers for every job. Inflation is
out of control. Yet he thinks we can wait until January
2010? Does he really believe that tax cuts create jobs?
No Ted. He is upper middle class. That's his background

Other ideas include "a tax credit for homebuyers and
accelerated depreciation for businesses." There's also
"a $3,000 tax credit for each new hire" and "allowing
more businesses to deduct their net operating loans
going back five years instead of the usual two."

When Bush flew home to Texas, we thought we were
getting an FDR to replace a Hoover. Instead, we got
another Hoover.

Even if we had a president willing and able to offer
the bold and decisive leadership that FDR offered in
the 1930s, the challenge posed by the fiscal crisis
would be daunting. But we're not as lucky as our
grandparents. We're stuck with a small-minded schmuck
with the vision of a small-time Chicago alderman. Think
about it: this is a guy who thinks tinkering with the
tax code is going to save American capitalism!

It's 1933. This time, however, Hoover got reelected.
Can we hold out until 1937 for a president who
understands that we need 10 million new jobs, and that
we need them yesterday?
Maybe so. Lets compare the backgrounds of each.
First FDR.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt was born on January 30, 1882
in the Hudson Valley town of Hyde Park, New York. His
father, James Roosevelt, and his mother, Sara, were
each from wealthy old New York families, of Dutch and
French ancestry respectively. Franklin was their only
child. His paternal grandmother, Mary Rebecca
Aspinwall, was a first cousin of Elizabeth Monroe, wife
of the fifth U.S. President, James Monroe. One of his
ancestors was John Lothropp, also an ancestor of
Benedict Arnold and Joseph Smith, Jr. One of his
distant relatives from his mother's side is the author
Laura Ingalls Wilder. His maternal grandfather Warren
Delano II, a descendant of Mayflower passengers Richard
Warren, Isaac Allerton, Degory Priest, and Francis
Cooke, during a period of twelve years in China made
more than a million dollars in the tea trade in Macau,
Canton, and Hong Kong, but upon returning to the United
States, he lost it all in the Panic of 1857. In 1860,
he returned to China and made a fortune in the
notorious but highly profitable opium trade[6]
supplying opium-based medication to the U. S. War
Department during the American Civil War but not
exclusively.[7] Young Franklin Roosevelt with his
father and Helen R. Roosevelt, sailing in 1899.

Roosevelt grew up in an atmosphere of privilege. Sara
was a possessive mother, while James was an elderly and
remote father (he was 54 when Franklin was born). Sara
was the dominant influence in Franklin's early
years.[8] Frequent trips to Europe made Roosevelt
conversant in German and French. He learned to ride,
shoot, row, and play polo and lawn tennis.

Roosevelt went to Groton School, an Episcopal boarding
school in Massachusetts. He was heavily influenced by
its headmaster, Endicott Peabody, who preached the duty
of Christians to help the less fortunate and urged his
students to enter public service. Roosevelt went to
Harvard, where he lived in luxurious quarters and was a
member of the Alpha Delta Phi fraternity. He was also
president of The Harvard Crimson daily newspaper. While
he was at Harvard, his fifth cousin Theodore Roosevelt
became president, and Theodore's vigorous leadership
style and reforming zeal made him Franklin's role model
and hero. In 1902, he met his future wife Eleanor
Roosevelt, Theodore's niece, at a White House reception
(they had previously met as children, but this was
their first serious encounter). Eleanor and Franklin
were fifth cousins, once removed.[9] They were both
descended from Claes Martensz van Rosenvelt
(Roosevelt), who arrived in New Amsterdam (Manhattan)
from the Netherlands in the 1640s. Rosenvelt's
(Roosevelt) two grandsons, Johannes and Jacobus, began
the Long Island and Hudson River branches of the
Roosevelt family, respectively. Eleanor and Theodore
Roosevelt were descended from the Johannes branch,
while FDR came from the Jacobus branch.[9]

Roosevelt entered Columbia Law School in 1905, but
dropped out in 1907 because he had passed the New York
State Bar exam. In 1908, he took a job with the
prestigious Wall Street firm of Carter Ledyard &
Milburn, dealing mainly with corporate law. He was
first initiated in the Independent Order of Odd Fellows
and was initiated into Freemasonry on October 11, 1911
at Holland Lodge Nr. 8 in New York City.[10]
FDR clearly came from wealth and privilege. He also had some
very liberal and progressive people in his life, which he looked up to
and had a profound influence on him. He had money and people with
money are usually not for sale.

Now lets look at Obama's background.
Of his early childhood, Obama recalled, "That my father
looked nothing like the people around me--that he was
black as pitch, my mother white as milk--barely
registered in my mind."[15] He described his struggles
as a young adult to reconcile social perceptions of his
multiracial heritage.[16] Reflecting later on his
formative years in Honolulu, Obama wrote: "The
opportunity that Hawaii offered--to experience a variety
of cultures in a climate of mutual respect--became an
integral part of my world view, and a basis for the
values that I hold most dear."[17] Obama has also
written and talked about using alcohol, marijuana and
cocaine during his teenage years to "push questions of
who I was out of my mind."[18] At the 2008 Civil Forum
on the Presidency in 2008, Obama identified his
high-school drug use as his "greatest moral
failure."[19]

Following high school, he moved to Los Angeles in 1979
to attend Occidental College.[20] After two years he
transferred in 1981 to Columbia University in New York
City, where he majored in political science with a
specialization in international relations[21] and
graduated with a B.A. in 1983. He worked for a year at
the Business International Corporation[22][23] and then
at the New York Public Interest Research Group.[24][25]

After four years in New York City, Obama moved to
Chicago, where he was hired as director of the
Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based
community organization originally comprising eight
Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland (Roseland, West
Pullman and Riverdale) on Chicago's far South Side. He
worked there as a community organizer from June 1985 to
May 1988.[24][26] During his three years as the DCP's
director, its staff grew from one to thirteen and its
annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000. He helped
set up a job training program, a college preparatory
tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in
Altgeld Gardens.[27] Obama also worked as a consultant
and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, a community
organizing institute.[28] In mid-1988, he traveled for
the first time in Europe for three weeks and then for
five weeks in Kenya, where he met many of his paternal
relatives for the first time.[29] He returned in August
2006 in a visit to his father's birthplace, a village
near Kisumu in rural western Kenya.[30]

Obama entered Harvard Law School in late 1988. He was
selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the
end of his first year,[31] and president of the journal
in his second year.[32] During his summers, he returned
to Chicago, where he worked as a summer associate at
the law firms of Sidley Austin in 1989 and Hopkins &
Sutter in 1990.[33] After graduating with a Juris
Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude[34] from Harvard in 1991,
he returned to Chicago.[31] Obama's election as the
first black president of the Harvard Law Review gained
national media attention[32] and led to a publishing
contract and advance for a book about race
relations,[35] though it evolved into a personal
memoir. The manuscript was published in mid-1995 as
Dreams from My Father.[35]

From April to October 1992, Obama directed Illinois's
Project Vote, a voter registration drive with a staff
of ten and 700 volunteers; it achieved its goal of
registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African
Americans in the state, and led to Crain's Chicago
Business naming Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under
Forty" powers to be.[36]

For 12 years, Obama served as a professor of
constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law
School; as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and as a
Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004.[37] In 1993 he
joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a law firm of
12 attorneys that specialized in civil rights
litigation and neighborhood economic development, where
he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996,
then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license
becoming inactive in 2002.[38]

Obama was a founding member of the board of directors
of Public Allies in 1992, resigning before his wife,
Michelle, became the founding executive director of
Public Allies Chicago in early 1993.[24][39] He served
from 1994 to 2002 on the board of directors of the
Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first
foundation to fund the Developing Communities Project,
and also from 1994 to 2002 on the board of directors of
the Joyce Foundation.[24] Obama served on the board of
directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995
to 2002, as founding president and chairman of the
board of directors from 1995 to 1999.[24] He also
served on the board of directors of the Chicago
Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the
Center for Neighborhood Technology, and the Lugenia
Burns Hope Center.[24]
Rather traditional upper middle class. No one in particularly
liberal or progressive except for his mother. And Harvard is
a rather conservative school. His civil rights background
one would think would have made him a bit more progressive.
But remember his experience there was primarily establishment
oriented, not the Back Panthers. The most outspoken person
being Rev. Wright.

He did not come from a wealthy background either. The upper
middle class background he did come from tends to be more
middle right socially and economically.

So to expect Obama to embrace the FDR progressive agenda
is not terribly realistic.

So in a way we do have a new Hoover in the presidency. We could
have had a new Benito Mussolini.


C






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It does seem like Obama is trying to save the rich and upper middle class rather than the middle class as a whole. But if Climate Change pundits are to believed, the earth can't sustain a large middle class, and if Energy Depletion theorists are to be believed, dwindling oil supply means the economy can no longer maintain the growth required to support a large middle class. Whether Obama understands these is an interesting question.

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Are you implying that I'm expendable, Donal ??

I beg your pardon !!!


C

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"You are a child of the universe ..."

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"You are a fluke of the universe..."

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"You are a fluke of the universe
You have no right to be here
Whether you can hear it or not, the universe is laughing behind your back."

Radio Dinner c. 1972...I'm so old! It also contained sidesplitting parodies of Dylan shilling a K-Tel style compilation, "Golden Protest"; Lennon doing a "Mother"-style primal scream rant against all his rocker peers; Joan Baez singing, "Pull the triggers, n-----s, we're with you all the way...just across the bay."

she went on:

"I'm the world's madonna, donna, donna donna-day,
I'm needed from Bangkok to Bangladesh
So many grievous wrongs for me to right with tedious songs
And I know I'll always have you to fall back on!"

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A few corrections and exceptions to note: The WPA didn't go into effect until 1935 and lasted until 1943. Right off the bat he has it wrong, we were not using WPA labor "Long after World War II ended the Depression once and for all". By 1943 there was mass migration north by black folks to jobs in the Chicago, Detroit etc. and women were going to work in manufacturing plants for the first time. There was a wartime labor shortage.

There's plenty of work to do now: the U.S. needs a national high-speed rail system to compete with European and Asian countries.

There are plenty of good reasons for building a high speed rail system but keeping up with the Joneses isn't one of them. Energy efficiency, reducing global warming pollution, relieving stress on the overburdened, messed up air transportation system, creating jobs, are all good ones.

There is money in the stimulus bill for high speed rail, mass transit (though most of that will go to rebuilding and maintaining existing systems). We are on schedule to get out of Iraq by next year as negotiated by the Iraqi and US governments under the SOFU agreement last year. Afghanistan remains to be seen.

We're not going to be building massive new federal projects like the Hoover Dam. Stimulus money will be funneled through states initially for existing projects that have been on their neglected wish list for years. Existing contractors that usually get this business will continue to get these contracts. Only about a third of the stimulus money has been expended so far. This isn't make work, infrastructure rehab is long overdue. In the process 3.5 million jobs will be preserved or created. I doubt their be many new ones but keeping 3.5 million people on the job instead of drawing unemployment is vitally important.

The credit markets are still not functioning at a sufficiently. There's way too much to write about this and I don't have time to do it. Maybe more later.

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One other point. FDR did not come to the presidency from congress. He was the Governor or NY. So a whole different approach to legislation.


C

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Obama's family was hardly upper middle class. He has chosen to identify with the rich the same way most Republicans do. He's just a more progressive kind of guy than your average Republican. I don't think he's got a very good understanding of history, particularly the history of the New Deal. I don't think he grasps just how bad the situation is for our country as a whole or our working and middle classes in particular. He is cautious to the point of timidity unless he's doing something the rich and powerful are behind and that's a very bad sign. He never lived in poverty and has lived a fairly cushy existence the past twenty years and is far more comfortable being popular amongst the powerful than being a leader who strives to bring change to the country. He has surrounded himself with people that are marginal Democrats at best. He has gone out of his way to include Republicans in his cabinet and there is not one outspoken liberal either in the cabinet or amongst his primary advisers in the White House. That we are getting all sorts of mealy mouthed, pro-corporate offerings out of his White House is disappointing but not terribly surprising. Hopefully, the light bulb will come on at some point and he'll realize that he needs to be a Democrat while in office. That would be a tremendously welcome and useful development for the common people of this country.

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Hopefully, the light bulb will come on at some point and he'll realize that he needs to be a Democrat while in office. That would be a tremendously welcome and useful development for the common people of this country.

And unfortunately not very damn likely.

C

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Rall's column is garbage. Check out tye first year of FDR's Presidency. Very little got done... The initial programs actually harmed more than helped.

If one were to go back to that time and forecast the rest of FDR's Presidency from that first year, it would be tepid and beholden to JP Morgan.

So the comparison at this point is silly. They are two different people in two different times. Obama gets the "head start" of a shipwrecked economy that still has some of FDR's programs to keep us from complete collapse.

What I have seen from Obama is a mixed bag. The election season is going to be critical one way or the other. Either progressives get their asses in gear and apply severe leftward pressure, or the center-right is going to triumph.

Rall is being a conservative. By that I mean he is clinging to an ideal that does not exist and railing for retrograde social change. In doing so, he is warping history in order to criticize Obama... Which is plain wrong. There is plenty of reasons to criticize Obama without revisionism.

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I will say that Obama has a shitty brain trust.

Roosevelt attempted to slash veteran funds in a misguided (Hooveresque) attempt to balance the budget in the wake of the 3.3 billion dollar public works program. Congress passed higher funding over his veto.

In his first term, Roosevelt still hung on to the idea that tye deficit was a threat to national solvency. His administration seized all gold via executive order. Try doing that today. It wasn't until the second New Deal that he started implementing the higher liberal vision. After seizing the gold, along came Bretton Woods. That kind of thing. Exactly the pieces of the social contract that were eviscerated under Nixon forward (Ford reinsituted public gold purchases in 74, for example). But it wasn't until Glass Steagall was repealed (with a toothless SEC left like a ghost in the machine) that the banks returned to their emimence and promptly fucked things up.

But the takeaway is that Roosevelt came into the Presidency as a deficit hawk. And he had the power to buttress his ledger with public gold holdings and implement a gold standard from the holdings. Now... Not so much.

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Thanks for the corrective, ZP. I am less than thrilled with Obama's record to date. But the comparisons to FDR are rather idiotic. First, FDR won the 1932 election be nearly twenty percentage points. Obama won by seven.

Second, as you point out, there is just not the level of economic distress facing the country that there was in 1932, and as a result, there is not the mandate for sweeping action that there was then. With a Senate that is still decidedly center-right, any legislative attempts to restructure the economy ala FDR will simply not get passed.

Obama may be more moderate than some of us would like, or he may honestly believe that strong Congressional and public support is required to move the country in a leftward direction, and that any initiatives he proposes must be ratified by the Congress. He also came in during a banking crisis, and the lesson all economists seem to agree on is that you can't let the banking system fail if you want to avoid a Depression. So I don't view many of his actions vis a vis the economy to be reflective of his political philosophy, but rather the best of a number of bad options that simply had to be taken to avoid economic collapse.

But this post is a rather simpleminded attempt to psychoanalyze Obama and FDR, and assign blame or credit because of who the poster perceives them to be, rather than an attempt to examine the economic problems facing each man upon taking office, and the political environment in which each operated.

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there is just not the level of economic distress facing the country that there was in 1932, and as a result, there is not the mandate for sweeping action that there was then.

One might argue that this absence of a "mandate for sweeping action" is more a result of a lack of participation in government then a lack of desire. I believe there would be more voice if more felt their voices would make a difference. In these days our voices are heard only if echoed in the MSM. Otherwise, they are lost in the wind. The voices of the people rose to elect Obama, and despite the MSM's portrayal of all the opposition to healthcare reform, the people remain interested in it. The proportion of news to this effect has been far from the actual numbers represented by the polls in favor of helathcare reform.

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Good comment. I don't see much point in this analysis 8 months into office. I also think there's more to a man than his upbringing.

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Well let me put it this way. What a lot of people where hoping fore was a Political Mohamed Alli but what we got was a rather week Sonny Liston.

C

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Obama is also not Hitler, Stalin, Trotsky, Herbert Hoover, Calvin Coolidge, Grover Cleveland, Abraham Lincoln, Margaret Thatcher, Cromwell, Michael Gorbachev, Mao Tse-tung, Louis XIV, St. Louis XII, or Magellan. Can we please talk about something important?

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