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The Brits know how horrible healthercare is in America


But of course this story won't be told here.
Christine Smith arrived at 3am in the hope of
seeing a dentist for the first time since she
turned 18. That was almost eight years ago. Her
need is obvious and pressing: 17 of her teeth are
rotten; some have large visible holes in them. She
is living in constant pain and has been unable to
eat solid food for several years.

"I had a gastric bypass in 2002, but it went
wrong, and stomach acid began rotting my teeth.
I've had several jobs since, but none with medical
insurance, so I've not been able to see a dentist
to get it fixed," she told The Independent. "I've
not been able to chew food for as long as I can
remember. I've been living on soup, and noodles,
and blending meals in a food mixer. I'm in
constant pain. Normally, it would cost $5,000 to
fix it. So if I have to wait a week to get treated
for free, I'll do it. This will change my life."

Along the hall, Liz Cruise was one of scores of
people waiting for a free eye exam. She works for
a major supermarket chain but can't afford the
$200 a month that would be deducted from her
salary for insurance. "It's a simple choice: pay
my rent, or pay my healthcare. What am I supposed
to do?" she asked. "I'm one of the working poor:
people who do work but can't afford healthcare and
are ineligible for any free healthcare or
assistance. I can't remember the last time I saw a
doctor."

Although the Americans spend more on medicine than
any nation on earth, there are an estimated 50
million with no health insurance at all. Many of
those who have jobs can't afford coverage, and
even those with standard policies often find it
doesn't cover commonplace procedures. California's
unemployed - who rely on Medicaid - had their
dental care axed last month.

Julie Shay was one of the many, waiting to slide
into a dentist's chair where teeth were being
drilled in full view of passers-by. For years, she
has been crossing over the Mexican border to get
her teeth done on the cheap in Tijuana. But
recently, the US started requiring citizens
returning home from Mexico to produce a passport
(previously all you needed was a driver's
license), and so that route is now closed. Today
she has two abscesses and is in so much pain she
can barely sleep. "I don't have a passport, and I
can't afford one. So my husband and I slept in the
car to make sure we got seen by a dentist. It
sounds pathetic, but I really am that desperate."

"You'd think, with the money in this country, that
we'd be able to look after people's health
properly," she said. "But the truth is that the
rich, and the insurance firms, just don't realise
what we are going through, or simply don't care.
Look around this room and tell me that America's
healthcare don't need fixing."
Yes....look around. Visit an ER and see the people who cannot
afford to get medical attention until they are very ill. But then
these people are not white and rich so they don't count. And
the rest of the world knows it too.

C


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I hope facts like these will make Obama wake up and realize that the problem is the underlying cost of medical services and treatment. And that the insurance premiums are a consequence of that, not the cause.

Or, maybe, convince liberals that (if we they cannot find peace without expanding government) it's actually an existing government program that's in a ditch and needs reform - Medicaid, supposedly designed to help the poor.

And hopefully convince Blue Dogs that you don't solve the problem of 15% of US population by saddling 100% of Americans with a $1 trillion dollars in debt.

But that would be too much Hope for Change, won't it.

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If you are so certain of your position, why do you lie about what is being proposed?

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Bingo!

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It's all of them. But congresses approach is to try and fix one part, usually the wrong part and hope the rest will fix itself or go away.

Kind of like putting a band-aid on someone whose has just been mauled by a mountain lion.

Or fixing a train wreck with a piece of duct tape.

C

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I agree with you on "fixing the wrong part".

But, as I point out below, the problem that RAM is trying to address has nothing to do with health insurance.

I think it would be great if this gets major headlines, because it will be the last nail in the coffin of our current reform proposal.

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Well, it was covered here... barely

http://www.nbc-2.com/Global/story.asp?S=10887981

The Nation and Salon printed the AP story. Also, it was covered on Bill Mahers show, but I couldn't find it in an American major Daily paper.

The truth is, that Remote Area Medical was formed to travel to third world countries, not major American cities. Are we a third world country now?


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Are we a third world country now?

I think you answered your own question, cheekhen.

But if there remains any doubt, check this out about 2:00 into the video clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-M10jDkmm0

We should be ashamed.

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I think you're using this report as a way of propping up a misquided "reform". The stupid TPM system doesn't let me know post a comment with several links, so I'm going to split it into several parts.

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"The primary purpose of the Rural AMerica Program is to provide vision and dental care for UNDERSERVED areas of the US."

"The Remote Area Medical® (RAM) Volunteer Corps is a non-profit, VOLUNTEER, airborne relief corps dedicated to serving mankind"

http://www.ramusa.org/projects/ruralamerica.htm

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#2.


"A NATIONAL SHORTAGE OF DOCTORS is hitting poor places the hardest..."

"The government estimates that more than 35 million Americans live in underserved areas, and it would take 16,000 doctors to immediately fill that need, according to the American Medical Association."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/21/AR2007072100432.html

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#3.

".....rural health advocates say, reforms must get doctors into rural areas, then worry about insurance coverage.

"We keep hearing about universal coverage. From a rural perspecive, THAT SOLVES NOTHING," said Lou Ann Wilroy, executive director of the Colorado Rural Health Center in suburban Denver. "You can have an insurance card in your wallet, and that doesn't mean you're going to have care."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/01/ap/national/main5204058.shtml

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So, a volunteer service is addressing a shortage of doctors in underserved rural America.

And how is this problem being addressed in our wonderful "insurance" reform?

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The answer? None of the above...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/16/opinion/16obama.html?_r=2&ref=opinion&pagewanted=all

This "insurance reform" has nothing to do with the problem you highlight, that's faced by 35 million Americans.

So let's not pretend that that Christine Smith is going to see anything other than more of the same, our usual "horrible healthcare in America", if this reform is passed.

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Interesting points, Lalo, yet Remote Medical was not in a far off rural area, it was in downtown Los Angeles.

The problem there is hardly lack of doctors or facilities.

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Well, that must be a game-changing argument in favor of insurance reform...

In LA Country, 14% live below poverty level and unemployment is 11%. Close to 800,000 are illegal immigrants.

Medicaid? What Medicaid?? Immigration reform? What immigration reform?

So, I think it's great that RAM specifically instructs its volunteers NOT TO ASK for any insurance or income proof whatsoever.

And you really think that all this is going to magically change as a result of our insurance reform??

By the way, this is the first time that RAM has ever used an urban location. Their next stop is:

AUGUST 21 - AUGUST 26, 2009
FORT DUCHESNE, UTAH
Population: 621 (per Wiki)

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I know that it was the first time. That is why it is disturbing. Did you see 1849s blog about the segment they did on Bill Maher?

This group should not be in America at all, they are needed in places that aren't "the richest country in the world"

I think the system is broken and beyond fixing. I have had to deal with it, however, and until that day, I'm pretty sure I would have been a lot more sympathetic to your viewpoint.

My feeling is that it got messed up when it became a for-profit endeavor. The profit needs to be taken out. Making money off the sick and those who we pay to heal the sick, is immoral. It's also bad business.

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I went to get the link to 1849s blog for you and saw the video had been taken down, I found it here, though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht_W5_Ogh0U

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"We need to rethink the cost of medical education and do more to reward medical students who choose a career as a primary-care physician," President Obama said in a speech to the American Medical Association.

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He said "we need" a million times when he critized Bush's policies. And look what happened.

Actions speak louder than words.

And actions that are a result of blindness caused by ideology - they practically scream.

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Truly gibberish. ROFL

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Whatever. When Obama finally does something that we really "need" - let me know.

This BS about rewarding students who choose primary care is a recognition of the fact that the FEDERAL GOVERMENT REDUCED REIMBURSEMENTS to primary care physicians to, wait for it... CUT COSTS.

The reason why primary physicians are abandoning the field is because their reimbursement has been progressively cut over the years.

In 2002, Medicare cut physician reimbursement by 5.4%. In 2003 - by 4.4%. And so on and so forth.

And as of March 2009, the proposed cut for 2010 was 21%.

So please give me more bullshit about motivating students.

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ROFLMAO

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Is this an example of Lalomasturbation?

Repetitive, and self-satisfying? Oh. And unresponsive to others.

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Nice.....

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What is needed are more Family Practice physicians and people being able to use them. Most medical students go into nice safe high paying specialties.

Where the overhead is low and the fees the highest.

And medical profession is in bed with the insurance companies. Especially the specialists.

There are even Family Practice physicians who don't want patients who might actually get ill.

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You might want to check the cost of medical education in the US before you, like Obama, accuse doctors of being profit-driven tonsil-rippers.

In New York City, a dental student has to find $280,000 in loans to get accepted to a dental school. Pull out your calculator and estimate how much they have to pay back, with compounded interest over time.

THEN, you can act surprised and shocked that these doctors don't flock like geese to rutal Utah.

But again, it's a minor detail that will be solved by the public option.

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When I was in Florida a couple of weeks ago, among the local news there was that they were opening a new medical school in Orlando.

Maybe of interest. Funding has been a big issue, I believe. The legislature has become involved.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_education_edblog/2009/08/fius-new-medical-school-formally-welcomes-first-class.html

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I think this is great and we need more of them.

It also would help if our government (the one that keeps insurance companies "honest") would also do the following:

- change the process of medical school accreditation

- change the process of board certification for doctors (format and immigration status)

- fix the payment schedules for primary physicians that drive them into specialty areas (aka Medicare fees)and away from primary care

- shorten patents on brand name drugs

- ban patient dumping from insurance

- remove community rating from insurance

Sadly, none of this is covered by the reform, even though each one separately and all together are much easier to pass with a genuine bi-partisan support than our current proposal.

Instead, all we hear is 100-year old socialist propaganda about profit motives.

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I agree with everything you have written here, Lalo. I do think the profits are an issue, though.

They certainly haven't helped.

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its funny C, but this story makes me weep when I should be torching repub headquarters.

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If it wasn't so expensive, I'd supply the gas.

C

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