Second Stimulus: Jesse Jackson hits nail on the head; WHY NOT MORE DISCUSSION AT TPM???


http://www.suntimes.com/news/jackson/1654263,CST-EDT-Jesse07.article

This article outlines in general form the argument of why we need both (a) a unified progressive coalition on the economy and (b) in particular, a second stimulus, including a massive bailout both of state/local governments and of homeowners facing foreclosure.   There is LOTS of discussion going on at elite levels, especially on the RW about a second stimulus, but even those supporting it, like Warren Buffett, are NOT necessarily going to support the right KIND of second stimulus, and the need for it NOW.

There are liberal/progressive economists here at TPM Cafe & its affiliates.   WHY DON'T WE HEAR MORE FROM BOTH COLUMNISTS AND DENIZENS ABOUT THIS CRUCIAL ISSUE AT TPM, AND OTHER GRASSROOTS PROGRESSIVE VENUES?   It seems to be yet another of the many hounds that don't bark in the landscape of US politics.

Here's a few NEW linx on the subject, or urgently relevant to it, in addition to the many posted last time:

http://www.newsnet5.com/money/19991494/detail.html
(States Using Stimulus $ Just to Stay Afloat)

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE56846L20090709

(Warren Buffett says second stimulus might be needed, current policy like 'half a viagra mixed w/ candy')

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE56846L20090709
(Obama Administration Economist Laura D'Andrea Tyson says 2d Stimulus Needed)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124709595712615003.html
(Wall St Journal on whether 2d Stimlus Is Needed -- reflecting Wall St's skepticism)   http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/opinion/10krugman.html
KRUGMAN -- THE STIMULUS TRAP   http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/08/jobs-report-mortgages-unemployment-recession-opinions-columnists-nouriel-roubini.html
"BROWN MANURE NOT GREEN SHOOTS" -- Roubini Says Economy Hasn't Bottomed Out Yet, Predicts 11% Unemployment

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/09/AR2009070902568.html?hpid=opinionsbox1 WASHINGTON POST EDITORIAL ON STIMULUS -- recaps many of the skeptical arguments popular w/Wall St and GOP, but w/o dismissing idea
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/07/09/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5147716.shtml "The Dicey Politics of the Second Stimulus" -- News Article Summarizing Controversy & history

SECOND STIMULUS -- Urgent to discuss more at TPM; & Linx Collection


      When the $787 billion stimulus bill was quickly passed & signed at the outset of the Obama Administration, there was much hope that it would blunt the severe recession from worsening into a depression.   In order to gain THREE GOP votes in order to pass, major reductions were made in the spending, especially in the area of aid to state government, slashed by over $40 billion, while tax cuts, favored by Republicans, were vastly expanded.    The stimulus then passed with an extra vote to spare, at a time when Coleman's challenge to the seating of Democrat Al Franken from Minnesota had successfully prevented him from being seated.   

Since that time, the economy, while supposedly "stabilizing" has arguably worsened, moreso than the Administration and "nonpessimistic" economists had projected, especially in the area of unemployment, now up to 9.5% and expected to enter double digits before the end of the year.   This rise in the rate both understates the total proportion of workers either underemployed, or not working and having given up looking for work; that proportion is roughly double the official rate, and in recent months, only an increase in the number of workers who have given up looking for jobs has prevented the unemployment rate from entering double digits already.    Furthermore, the fiscal crisis of state and local governments has also grown more dire, with CA facing a shortfall of over $20 billion, or over $1000 per taxpayer, and NY State also facing a huge shortfall, amounting to around $600 per taxpayer.    Overall, the impact of the recession/depression on state governments, who at least in theory must typically balance their budgets, has resulted  both in tax increases -- many of these regressive, though a significant proportion targeted at the wealthy by Democratic governments -- and in cutbacks to state and local spending and employment.    These changes at the state and local level have been often had a rapid effect, offsetting the relatively slower-effect spending provisions in the stimulus bill.   It is said that less than 15% of the spending provisions of the federal stimulus package have been disbursed so far.

Also, universities and colleges, including in the public sector, increase fees and tuition, cutback spending, and often are curtailing aid to needy students;  at some institutions of higher education, there has been a major impact in admissions standards, with students able to pay 'full freight' being much more likely to be favored.    Foreclosures continue apace, with great attendant harm to communities and to any possible 'green shoots' of recovery -- which generated much buzz that has quieted down recently in the face of recent negative economic news worse than mainstream forecasts, -- in the area of real estate and housing.    It remains unclear not only whether unemployment (expected to continue to rise for some time) but the economy as a whole has even bottomed out yet.

Yet, during this time, there has been only a minimum of discussion of the possibility of future stimulus measures, particularly those that might restore the negative changes that were made to the original stimulus in order to win over THREE "moderate" Republican Senators, one of whom has switched party affiliation, though not necessarily being any more open to stimulus spending that he was as a Republican.    The worsening economy and the predictable increase (marginal but crucial) in the number of Democrats in the Senate might have generated lots of discussion and pressure from progressives -- at least it seems to me that's what one would expect in a truly 'free marketplace of ideas' -- but at least at TPM Cafe and its affiliates, as well as a number of the other major venues for liberal/progressive political discourse, this has not been the case.   Indeed, there has been much more buzz concerning the coming nomination battle over future Justice Sotomayor, even though her approval at least now appears to be a foregone conclusion.

There has, however, been a significant amount of discussion of a second stimulus -- in NONprogressive venues followed by those opposed to such spending, and where concerns over the possibility of burgeoning inflation loom much larger.     These are not venues primarily concerned with the unemployed, those facing foreclosure, students/universities squeezed economically, or communities devasted by unemployment, foreclosures, etc.

For progressives many important questions need to be answered.    What kinds of measures and how much would be needed to stem the bleeding at the state and local governments that undermine the economic stimulus and create much pain to the needy?     How could a bailout of CA be combined with the needs of many other states for major relief?   What are the best kinds of measures to shore up at least the public sector of higher education?   What are the best measures to stanch or even partially reverse the foreclosure crisis with its negative multiplier effects?   And of course, what kinds of stimulus spending would generate spending SOONER and with a maximum economic boost by the multiplier effect? 

To all these questions there are added issues of strategy and political feasibility, of which politicians could champion this and how much ground needs to be covered -- other than the obvious and unproductive noting that a 'second stimulus isn't in the cards' at this point -- just the kind of approach that reinforces the existing RW justifying-the-lying bias of discourse already extant.
Also important are the marshalling of arguments to counter what the RW is saying on the subject.

Below are a number of links on the issue to help spur discussion, and laying out many of the protestations against a second stimulus being made by the right.    I hope that columnists at TPM Cafe will significantly address these questions, particularly those questions or arguments that their expertise would give them the ability to address in ways the rest of us here can't.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124692229711302683.html
(Is Stimulus Sequel in the Offing?)

http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/06/june-jobs-report-losses-economy-recovery-opinions-columnists-wesbury-stein.html

http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2009/07/06/get_ready_for_14_percent_unemployment_97295.html

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stash/archive/2009/07/06/the-politics-of-a-second-stimulus.aspx

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e0569d42-6995-11de-bc9f-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1 (FINANCIAL TIMES "WE DO NOT NEED A SECOND STIMULUS") http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124654957038686549.htm (WSJ -- NO DECISION YET ON SECOND STIMULUS)  http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aIHpsBT0JHFc Democrats Split on Stimulus as Job Losses Mount, Deficit Soars
  http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/chi-0707edit3jul07,0,7888754.story Second Stimulus -- No Way! (Editorial)



 

URGENT! TPM Cafe columnists & denizens need to focus MUCH more on close senate races, Prop 8, and voter suppression!!!!!


I understand that this may very well, or even likely, be the most decisively important election in a generation (the last one I suppose being the election of Reagan). Obama is a pragmatist in the FDR strain who I at least HOPE will not stab progressive politics and progressives in the back the way that Clinton did.

But after the Powell endorsement, I think that it's a reasonably safe political conclusion that the only way the GOP could win the prez is by underhanded means. Two of the main ones, that I have been discussing on the web, are (1) the W Administration concocts some kind of "security-and/or-terrorism crisis" as a hail mary game changer AND/or (2) that the ongoing election stealing and vote-suppression efforts succeed in reaching a massive scale (millions of votes in a multiplicity of states). About (1), I posted a Democratic Underground (DU) poll which got 90 respondents in which 52% of the respondents thought such a maneuver likely, although w/only a little over two weeks left, it gets more and more suspect if the W does it, and at least somewhat less likely, as international crises often take a bit of time to manufacture. Interestingly, the POLES of opinion constituted the majority (52% thought it more than likely, while 31% thought it only a 0-10% chance). Only 16% were in the middle, where I was, with a view that the figure would probably be closer to 50% than to 10% likelihood. But it is declining, perhaps even moreso with the Powell endorsement mucking up the chances of such succeeding.

So the chances are not only that Obama will win, but win by at LEAST 5% of the national vote, unless there is TRULY massive voter suppression (much more than in 00 or 04). The Obama campaign has more money than any in history, and more is piling in from those who are NOT political mavens. Remember that most money given to candidates is as an investment, not for reasons of conscience, and even if that is proportionately less true of Obama, the factor is still huge.

So in terms of voting suppression issues, I would give to groups like Common Cause, who are focused on it, and also not specifically identified with either major political party. I would very much try to earmark such donations FOR THAT PURPOSE in THIS NATIONAL ELECTION.

But both the investment donors and the great mass of those interested enough in politics, LIKE DUers who should be precisely the mavens who would know better are NOT donating nearly enough to the seven or so closest Senate races (MN,NC,OR,GA,KY,Alaska and Mississippi). (I am figuring that NM, CO, and VA are NOT terribly close at all, and NH appears increasingly leaning Dem). The number of these 7 contested races that the Democrats win will determine just how much an Obama Administration would be able to get through Congress, so they are crucial as has rarely been the case before.  Each Senate seat is not of its usual importance, but almost as key as a Supreme Court seat.

The kind of political mavens that TPMCafe appeals to can donate to these close races ourselves, as I've done with Al Franken so far. I suppose one can also donate to the DSCC, which I've also done.

Finally, there is the issue of prop 8 in CA. I know there are TONS of ballot measures, and many of them, like prop 8, are of top tier importance morally and in national power politics. But this one (vote NO on 8 to stop a Constitutional Amendment in CA banning gay marriage) is important not only for the crucial moral issues underlying it (equal rights, the whole shmear ...), but also because it isn't just ANOTHER measure on this nationally contested issue, but the BIG LUBOWSKY (California). Further, it is a key national test of importance, both in terms of power politics and in terms of media, for progressive politics especially in ballot measures generally. A victory here will encourage progressives both in the area of gay rights and in pursuing an host of other concerns in ballot measures nation-wide. A defeat would be a significant setback, as I am arguing, both for gay rights in particular and for progressive politics generally, INCLUDING but not limited to gay rights. This is in NO way to understate the importance of gay marriage rights, or the moral and ethical issues here (as on so many other progressive measures). But there is also a CRUCIAL strategic issue that TPM Cafe-ers and progressives often don't like to think about, seeing something 'dirty' in thinking about strategy. We  should FLOCK to donate to Prop 8, which I hear little about in the general area discussion arenae

This is not to undercut Obama efforts or promote complacency, but rather to suggest that the tunnel vision we see in the mainstream as on TPM Cafe needs to be transcended, and transcended now.  This in my arrogant opinion, goes for TPM Cafe columnists and TPM reportage too.

Responders to this comment  could also suggest which groups and URLs are good for donating to these concerns, and WHY

Presidential GE update linx galore -- polls, veepstakes, issues, campaign organization etc


I) Obama and polls -- national and state polls, and analyses   (II) Veepstakes -- overall analysis, cases for some less-advocated possibilities   (III)  Consituencies -- "Joshua Generation", analyses of obama & women, exurbs, rural voters   (IV) Issues -- including W Admin helping Saudis build nuke plants;  explication of Obama & Rezco,    (V) Other -- including the Jason Furman flap, Obama's internet smear combat brigade, & analysis of prospects of a stolen election

(I) Polls

(A) National Polls and analyses

(1)    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-j-elisberg/obama-mccain-the-early-re_b_106284.html

assessment of state of presidential GE, including polls, by LA commentator at Huffpo Robert Elisberg

(2)    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/06/09/do0901.xml

"McCain still has chance to win"  (UK Telegraph)

(3) Overall National Polls   (a) gallup and rasmussen national polls for tues -- both showing Obama with 6 point lead http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3412213   (b)   http://www.gallup.com/poll/107791/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Lead-Appears-Stabilize.aspx obama maintains modest (6 %) lead in daily national gallup tracking poll   (c) national poll AND detailed Ohio poll w/extensive internals polls in LA Times --natl & Ohio detailed pdf of poll in Ohio -- internals etc http://www.ipr.uc.edu/documents/op060908.pdf   (B) state polls   (1)  NJ and WI polls showing obama w/lead in NJ and edge in WI http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6332507   (2) WI poll w/Obama enjoying double-digit lead: http://www.wispolitics.com/index.iml?Article=128513 obama up 13% in WI poll   (3) Michigan   http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/michigan/election_2008_michigan_presidential_election rassmussen finds obama now has edge over mccain in MI   (4) Georgia http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/georgia/election_2008_georgia_presidential_election obama pulls to w/in 10% of mccain in georgia   (5) Arizona mccain website acknowledges Arizona, where he leads by only 5 % in the polls, as a "swing state" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dawn-teo/mccain-up-a-mere-five-poi_b_106337.html    (6) analysis of Iowa http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iXFQbVLl-ShP1_pg6CGNiyaBTmfwD917TD9G1 obama starts out GE as favored to win Iowa   (7) analysis of South Carolina blogsite essay -- Why Obama will carry South Carolina http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/philnoble/gG5jzg   (II) Veepstakes -- analyses and advocacies
(A) Analytical Overviews:   (1)  http://www.newsweek.com/id/140468/page/1 Newsweek analysis of Obama choice of VP (mainly white males of the center)   (2)  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/10/obamas-vp-list-msnbc-gath_n_106373.html discussion of VeepStakes on Huffington Post   (3) Analyses of Hillary Clinton as VP       (a)  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25096620 Obama's lead over McCain increases from 6% to 9% w/HRC on ticket, according to WSJ/NBC poll              (b)  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080609/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_as_veep polls suggesting that HRC would be a bad choice for VP (in terms of vote strength)      (c)  http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jun/09/commentary-recruiting-for-the-no-2-spot/ Washington Times weighs in on 'will Barack pick Hillary for veep'? question

(4)   http://www.pdamerica.org/articles/news/2008-06-06-09-47-56-news.php discussion of three most talked-about non-HRC female vps for Obama ticket: McCaskill, Napolitano, Sebelius

(B) Advocacy for particular possible Veeps:   (1) some criteria from Politico writer http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10533.html "... it is hard to see Obama choosing a running mate who disagreed with a central rationale of his candidacy: his opposition to attacking Iraq when most prominent Democrats lined up in support of President Bush's march to war.    Second, some post-2002 arrivals to the Senate, such as Sen. Jim Webb of Virginia, are appealing and have no pro-war baggage but lack the years of elective office experience Obama might want to complement his shorter Washington résumé."
Scott A. Moss is an associate professor at the University of Colorado Law School.   (2) Camille Paglia argues for Sebelius at Salon        http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/06/11/hillary/   (3) Carville advocates Gore http://thepage.time.com/2008/06/11/carville-obama-should-pick-gore-for-veep/   (4) Case for Barbara Boxer (including some of my own points): a case for Barbara Boxer as Obama VP choice (a "burning" thread at Democratic Underground): http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3425848&mesg_id=3425848   and my comment there, in case you missed it: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3425848&mesg_id=3428188   (5) Case for Nancy Pelosi    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6346962 case for Pelosi (?) as vp   (6) Case for Caroline Kennedy http://www.pdamerica.org/articles/news/2008-06-06-09-47-56-news.php   (7)  http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6345519 the case for Kaine   (8)  http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6345964 case for Feingold
(9) Case for the MUCH-touted Wes Clark   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHEYcHmNDX0     http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6350173   (III)   Obama and Constituencies

(A) Women      (1)  http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/06/are-women-shunn.html obama leading in polls of women voters 52-40%, larger than general population lead      (2)  gallup poll finds Obama has gained significantly in support among women, in matchups against McCain, since HRC's exit http://www.gallup.com/poll/107806/Obama-Gains-Among-Women-After-Clinton-Exit.aspx

   (3)    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-06-11-womenvoters_N.htm obama's lead among women over mccain from TWO recent major national polls discussed in USA Today   (B) By type of area (urban/rural etc)   (1)  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/08/barackobama.hillaryclinton rural voters said to remain skeptical of voting for Barack Obama   (2)  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2008/Jun/11/dems_send_aid_into_traditionally_gop__exurbs_.html Democrats looking to run strongly in "Republican" exurbs 
(C) Obama and "Joshua Generation" -- young Christians http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/388366.aspx

(IV) ISSUES IN ELECTION (these are issues likely to have a significant impact on the outcome of the election, not necessarily what is "objectively" important)     (A) The Economy Stupid         (1)     http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/6/9/why-the-economy-is-better-than-you-think.html US News and World Report on "why the economy is better than you think"         (2)  real unemployment approaching 14% http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data
re: also check articles 54 & 56

(B) Environment/Economy       (1)    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121296676181055711.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Wall Street Journal on McCain v Obama on energy policy       (2)   polls find 94% of Americans see developing solar energy as VITAL for the US http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/story?id=52724       (3)   League of Conservation Voters on Republican ("maverick" on the environment) McCain (rates 26) v Obama (rates 96): http://www.lcv.org/voterguide/
 (C)  Potential Issues Major in THIS Election:     (1)  both brilliant and sensible -- W Administration helping Saudis build nuke plants http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121305642257659301.html?mod=googlenews_wsj     (2) Rezco http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-zorn-10-jun10,0,3997821.column GOPers trying to use Rezco -- an explanation in defense of Obama in Chicago Tribune

(V) Other       (A)  Obama to Accept Nomination on 45th Anniversary of Dr King's "I Have a Dream" Speech -- by Jesse Jackson Jr. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-jesse-jackson-jr/obama-to-accept-nominatio_b_104977.html       (B)  Obama's Campaign Organization

(1) The Controversy over Jason Furman     (a)  http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=acigw2e6gl8Y&refer=us Obama puts Jason Furman in as economic policy director     (b)  http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/09/obamas_economic_soul/ Obama appoints neoliberal to his economic advisory team     (c)  http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-furman11-2008jun11,0,2347842.story ongoing concern in some quarters that Obama economic advisor Jason Furman isn't progressive enough

(2)  Obama campaign to address Internet swiftboating     (a)  http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/webscout/2008/06/obama-forward-v.html Obama and internet rumor machine     (b)  http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=8467289 Obama recruiting staff to fight web smears

(3)  focus on David Plouffe (as Obama's "campaign czar" in Chicago Tribune)    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-plouffe-obamajun09,0,2235451.story   (4) Integrity of Election Process     (a)   http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3406 issue of the prospects of a stolen election     (b) In These Times on RW's new attack on voters http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3737/the_rights_new_attack_on_voters\   (5)    Some nice Obama cartoons http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6320600   (6)  KS Holdout Boyda endorses Obama http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/jun/11/boyda_endorses_obama/   (7)  http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/new-gang-of-14-wont-back-mccain-2008-06-11.html 14 Republican Congresspeople REJECT endorsing McCain

Election Tidbits (many culled from Democratic Underground)


 

(I) GE  Presidential 

(A) Obama "edict" requires Democratic National Committee to return $100,000; 

(B) Nonobvious "firsts" for Obama as nominee;

(C) McCain (1) not 'maverick' in close Senate votes,  (2) Opposition to Hurricane Catastrophe fund poses problems for McCain, (3) Neil Cavuto w/5 election tips for McCain;  

(D) VP -- Edwards reportedly rules out #2 spot;

(E) Obama statements on (1) Gay Rights, (2) Climate change bill;

(F)Ridgeway in Mother Jones on Obama and RFK; 

(G) Constituency analyses of Obama ... (1) and race in Wall Street Journal;  (2) (a) and white working class in USA Today, and (b) Gephardt predicts Obama will win working class in Nov(3) ... and, in LA Times  (a) discussion of his polling among Latinos, &  (b) Guy Rodriguez on latinos supporting blacks in elections;  (4) "Clinton Dead Enders and Crisis in the Women's Movement" The New Republic;

(H) GE presidential election prospects (1) Obama continues to heavily lead among bettors for winner of GE; (2) Guy Saperstein projects Obama in GE by a blowout; (3) Rasmussen (a)WV: McCain 45, Obama 37; (b) NC: McCain 48, Obama 45; (4) Electoral-Vote.com projects for today: 287 EVs for Obama, and 58 Dem Sen seats; (5) CNN--Opinion Research Corp nat'l:   Obama 47, McCain 43, Nader 6 ...

(II) Nonpresidential Elections:

(A) CA -- ballot measure for Constitutional Amendment requires only a simple majority, while any tax increase requires 2/3 supramajority;

(B) Al Franken faces election flaps in MN over past sex speech  (previous Dem might jump back in)

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(I) Presidential GE

 (A) Obama "Edict" for Democratic National Committee against acceptance of lobbyist money requires return of $100,000:  http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/07/obama-edict-requires-dnc-to-return-100000/

(B) Nonobvious Firsts for Obama as Democratic Nominee (Julianna Golman at Bloomberg.com): http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aaUIIClmEfwA&refer=home

(C) McCain

   (1)  Not maverick on close senate votes: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0507mccainvotes0507.html

   (2)  Opposition to Hurricane Catastrophe Fund, or "Cat" Fund a potential major issue in FL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/05/lieberman-launches-grassroots-organization/ 

and 

http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-release-on-mccains-opposition-to-national-catastrophic-insurance-fund/

   (3)  Neil Cavuto at Fox News offers five tips for McCain: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,364181,00.html   (D) John Edwards reportedly rules out #2 spot on Obama ticket:  http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/06/europe/EU-GEN-Spain-US-Politics-Edwards.php   (E) Obama statements on   (1) Gay Rights: http://www.queerty.com/obamas-gay-promises-20080606/   (2) Climate Change Bill:   http://thepage.time.com/obama-statement-on-climate-change-bill/   (F) James Ridgeway in Mother Jones:   "Seeing Bobby Kennedy in Barack Obama" http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2008/06/barack-obama-rfk-bobby-kennedy.html

(G)  Commentary on Obama and Constituency Issues   (1)  Wall Street Journal (Jonathan Kaufman):   "Race Issue Looms in Election With Sharp Divide in Some States"  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121271038571350377.html   (2)   (a)  "Obama Reaching Out to White Working Class" by Kathy Kiely in USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-06-05-Obama_N.htm   (b) Christopher Stern (Bloomberg): "Gephardt Predicts Obama Will Win Working-Class Vote in November": http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080606/pl_bloomberg/ax9lrscsqihg
(3)    (a) Analysis (Peter Wallsten) in LA Times of Obama's showing of enormous (eg 62% Obama t0 29%McCain) lead among latinos:  http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-latinos6-2008jun06,0,5793717.story   (b) LA Times' Guy Rodriguez in "Clinton's Latino Spin" analyzes track record of latinos voting for black politicians http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-rodriguez28jan28,0,1688217.column   (4) Michelle Goldberg in The New Republic "3AM for Feminism:  Clinton Dead Enders and Crisis in the Women's Movement": http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=2c2ec3a8-e813-4d4e-b566-510e0f19eced

(H) Projection/Assessment of Voting Strength      (1) Obama leads heavily (over 60% odds) among bettors for winner in Nov GE:  http://www.intrade.com//?request_operation=main&request_type=action&checkHomePage=true and http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN0430811720080605         (2) Guy Saperstein Project Obama Nov win by a blowout:  http://www.alternet.org/election08/87225      (3) Rasmussen statewide polls        (a) West Virginia:  McCain 45, Obama 37 http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/west_virginia/election_2008_west_virginia_presidential_election        (b) North Carolina:  McCain 48, Obama 45 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php az=view_all&address=132x6309331      (4) (I may drop these soon): Electoral-Vote.com Obama winning electoral college (270 needed to win) w/ 287, Democrats w/58 senate seats (to current ~51-ish, depending on how you count): http://www.electoral-vote.com/

   (5) (Again, may drop these soon) CNN Opinion-Research Corp: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ijClHoidEl8XEJMJoUooHU1R_nmgD914PTMGA
(II) Nonpresidential Elections      (1) California Ballot Measures -- small tax increase requires 2/3 supramajority while Constitutional Amendment against gay marriage needs only simple majority: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-broverman6-2008jun06,0,4046123.story      (2) Al Franken in Minnesota facing tough time for past sex speech, even nonpublic:       (a) CBS News analysis of flap over Franken's Playboy article:   http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/05/politics/politico/thecrypt/main4158343.shtml       (b) flap over NEVER AIRED SaturdayNightLive piece, Ciresi considers jumping back into MN Senate Election as Democrat: http://www.minnpost.com/stories/2008/06/06/2144/frankens_campaign_veering_out_of_control_rumors_fly_and_ciresi_considers_jumping_back_in_the_race

what happened to all the essays that were in my old blog?


I used to have tons of essays collected together in my old blog, before the format was  changed.   Some of the stuff was saved ONLY on TPM Cafe.

Frankly, I think that the original format, and saving the material posted on it, was the best.

Upshot of Immigration Debate: Who Wants National ID Cards?


Don't all start shouting "I do! I do" at once, but the logic of the debate on illegal immigrants is already pointing to something that directly affects all of us, in a way SOME of us at least might find very upsetting: NATIONAL ID CARDS. This could join together the immigration and terrorism debates -- despite protestations from columnists, BOTH these issues are at least better for the Repugs than the others, even with or especially with mass protests by those highly unlikely to ever vote Repug highlighting the debate for those who might. But one thing those protests need to include is concern about national ID cards, something many who MIGHT vote Repug might find (pardon the pun) especially repugnant.

 Here's a discussion, with link, advocating exactly that:

 

Stuart Taylor, a writer for the National Journal, insists:

 

 "... all efforts to control illegal immigration will be futile unless Congress requires workers to have forgery-proof, theft-proof identity cards -- ideally embedded with biometric data matching the bearer's thumbprint or iris scan -- and imposes heavy penalties on employers who hire people without such cards."

Well, maybe the Repugs have a proposal for immigration that the extreme right and the Bush rhetoric can finally agree on: national ID's to promote more effective border enforcement. Of course, it might not be the best election year issue, but that won't prevent a Repug Congress, or even with one House barely Democratic and a few Liebermans, from supporting the idea. Remember how hopeful everyone was when the Patriot Act was "defeated" last year, in an effort led by Sen Feingold, as he was a special guest here? Now look at what happened -- and with broad support in both Houses from Democrats!

 

I wouldn't trust these people with protecting civil liberties as far as you could throw a piece of gnat WBush! And a national ID will surely be the step to that -- and before you know it, required when you vote as well as to get jobs, and who knows what else? Medical care? It's not so much that national ID per se is such a horrible thing, problematic as that is, but with the current crop of megalos in power? Please, people! SOUND THE ALARMS!

 

I suppose that if this issue finds its way into the immigration issue protests, the Repugs will back away for a time, as they did on the draft. But, like herpes, it shall return ......

cross-posted at Top Issues Discussion Table

In Defense of the Progressive Left


     I intend to write two essays for blog/discussion that kind of go together. The first hits on the overall view of progressive/Left politics in the US, and the attack on it by Todd Gitlin and by others posting at this site. The second zeroes in on what is in my view a major problem of the Left both in this country and worldwide, namely antiSemitism, together with the tolerance of and 'softness on' antiSemitism that is widespread on the Left (both authentic and pseudo) in this era.

 

 There might indeed need to be a series of essays in defense of the Left generally, as it is attacked in so many different ways, just by Todd Gitlin alone, leaving aside those criticisms that I would accept as valid, at least to the extent that I would accept them. But for today, a jumping off point is Todd Gitlin's column, appearing in the April 9 Los Angeles Times, accusing the Left of a purge mentality because of the (I'm falling off the floor) widespread or near-universal rejection of his "patriotism" outside of the circles of Dissent and others fairly close to Gitlin's version of supposedly progressive politics. I am not one to embrace the kind of sect-like purge mentality of either the Bolsheviks (even before Stalin, as well-portrayed in Dr Zhivago, despite what the New York Times describes as the latter's "antiseptic" qualities), nor of the Weather Underground (a notorious crew of assholes), nor of the Chinese Cultural revolution or a host of others. But sometimes someone is rejected by the Left for good reason -- and, although I have not read his latest book on patriotism itself (although I have read his commentary about it here), I have read and heard enough of Gitlin to say confidently that his rejection is broad and hardly sectarian, and, from the standpoint of progressives, most justified!

 

 Some commentors excoriated me for suggestion that opponents of Gitlin were "legion" among progressives and Leftists. Well, in this column, entitled "The Urge To Purge", Gitlin admits more or less what I was saying that his defenders at this site found presumptive: that Gitlin is widely rejected by progressives and Leftists as being authentically one of our own. I want to try to explain a little bit about why, and to critique the column here.

 

 First, there is a major fallacy, if you read the column, that underlies it. He puts forward the humble-sounding position that he argues "liberalism" to be compatible with "patriotism". But remember that the 'urge to purge' is not directed at those who would describe themselves as 'liberals' but as progressives and Leftists. Liberals are, say, like Kennedy, and patriotism is very much a part of the mainstream liberals' worldview, both of politicians and of grass-roots liberals like my mother. Patriotism is not, however, a major part of the politics of the progressive left, and when WBAI on the second anniversary of 9/11 tries to play a hip version of "America the Beautiful", something does indeed sound out of place, and very much contrasting with what was heard on the station in September and October 2001, when I was listening and calling in, describing some of it, in unusually strong language for me on the air, as 'head up the ass'.

 

This observation of fact about progressive politics is neither a denial of any possible place for progressives to fly the American flag proudly, nor an embrace of the puerile anti-Americanism that is visible in many quarters of the left, and of the pseudo left, about which more later. What I describe as a "US Out of North America" mentality is what in Hegelian terms is a mere 'negation' of nationalistic patriotism that does not first and foremost oppose American imperialism in all its forms; a 'negation' is merely an antithesis, an inversion of what is being opposed, rather than a transcendance, or 'cancellation', the latter being a new synthesis. The new synthesis is the approach of the genuinely progressive Leftist, rather than mere America-bashing.

 

 Gitlin argues at TPM and elsewhere, that the proper synthesis for progressives and Leftists, rather than merely for liberals -- although somtimes he seems to acknowledge his opposition to Leftists (who sneer) as opposed to liberals (who hope) -- is an enlightened patriotism. I would argue that in fact, most progressives find the proper synthesis in an enlightened and informed (not like the mockery of a 'world government' candidate running for office found here) humanism, internationalism, and, indeed socialism. The latter does not rule out all forms of patriotism -- far from it. But it does not use the flag, as others, including those claiming to be progressive, use religion, to implicitly or explicitly decry the politics of those lacking 'God' or 'country' as touchstones of their progressive politics.

 

The lack of being guided specifically by loyalty to nation rather than other principles is not to be confused with antiAmericanism. The latter is neither neutral about America nor simply a guidance by other principles -- it is an animus directed against America. One could analogize the issue to those who oppose white supremacist racism, as engrained institutionally and in society, as well as in individual attitudes, in contrast with those who are anti-white. A case of the latter was the group of Weather folk who got into a debate about whether or not all honky babies are pigs (the consensus already being reached that most are). But while I am anti-racist but not anti-white, I do not feel it necessary to proclaim my 'loyalty' to the white race in order to win support, and be on the side of the angels (financial or otherwise). Similarly, I am anti-imperialist, and against my government's and elite's central role as hegemon in world imperialism today, but I am not anti-American. But just as I don't feel it necessary to proclaim 'white pride', so I do not feel it necessary to proclaim 'patriotism' as a central driving force of my politics. I know the analogy is imperfect for a number of reasons, but it reveals how one can be against oppression but not therefore embrace the categorical bigotry against the supposed "oppressor" category. The latter I would emphasize is to be rejected as indeed a form of bigotry, including in the case of 'antiAmericanism'. But rejection of that bigotry should be separated from what is advocated by Gitlin and others here, namely that our loyalty is owed to nation, rather than to humanity or to life or whatever other principles are, indeed sneered at as alternatives.

 

But there is more to this problem than just patriotic hopeful liberalism vs. antiAmerican, sneering Leftism. When you have a definition of antiAmerican that is broad enough to include Noam Chomsky and Arundhati Roy, you aren't just condemning a "US out of North America" attitude, often put forward by copperheads only posing as Leftists in order to parody leftism and pursue another agenda entirely (one that, it should be noted, very much includes antiSemitism).(Granted, at least some of this sentiment is expressed by authentic, if misguided, progressive Leftists). Conan Doyle, in his classic short story "The Red-Headed League", which I use as a template for discussing the problem of the 'Ahab's peg leg' left or copperheads and other inauthentic progressives, writes in the story: "I'm not sure your assistant isn't as remarkable as your advertisement". [Those who would police what I call secularity, along with lack of patriotism and the embrace of even multiethnic progressive alliances including those loyal to particular ethnic groups will inevitably protest. So be it.]

 

In any event, the implicit requirement rather than possibility of patriotism, lest one be condemned as antiAmerican, and the notion that this requirement applies, at least as a moral standard, to progressives and the Left as well as to mainstream liberals, separates Gitlin in practice from his innocent self-portrayal in the column. It boggles the mind that someone who says that the Leftist sneers and the liberal hopes would complain that they are being 'purged' by the Left! After all, if you reject leftism that categorically, then indeed you are NOT a left progressive, but a mainstream, post-Cold War liberal, not unlike the other genuine 'apostates' of the Cold War era who abandoned their youthful leftism and joined the liberal mainstream. If Gitlin would make it clear that he is not a progressive, not someone to give advice to a 'young activist' implicitly as an enlightened left progressive, and 'come out' consistently as a mainstream liberal, then at least the sense of betrayal would change, for me at any rate.

 

     When someone says 'poor manic depressive Abbie', not only critiquing the things Abbie Hoffman said in the 60s, but attributing those things to a disorder that emerged decades later, or when that someone puts Michael Moore on a footing with Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity, I see a pattern here. Not only is Gitlin a liberal rather than a progressive, but among mainstream liberals he is one of the most hostile figures toward leading left figures from Noam Chomsky to Arundhati Roy to Abbie Hoffman to Michael Moore! This is not uncommon among those who leave an ideology -- many of the most ardent McCarthyites were themselves ex-leftists. In the case of all four of the abovementioned leaders, I have my criticisms, though I am aware of fewer about Roy. But to trash them the way Gitlin does is decidedly less generous than liberals for whom I have greater respect, like Brian Lehrer or Barbara Boxer or the King family.

 

Responding negatively to that kind of approach is hardly sectarian "purging" -- after all, the rejection is from a broad range of leftists, and not just from some faction or element. And while some segments of the left could rightly be accused of a cult mentality, I don't think that the breadth of progressives could be fairly lumped together with the French revolutionary terror and the Weather Underground. After all, there are some principles that really define the Left, just as there are others that define the Democratic Party mainstream, and people like Ed Koch and Zell Miller as 'apostates', with good reason.

 

 What is needed is a balance -- something between anomie and relativism on one hand and sectarianism on the other. To see only one side of the problem is indeed a problem with Gitlin in looking at the Left, especially in contrast to mainstream liberalism. I would add that this applies to many other notions -- such as support for the imperialist venture in the Kosovo War, supported by liberals but opposed by most leftists; opposition to even the most positive forms of black and chicano nationalism as somehow a betrayal of 'common dreams' (recognizing that nationalism, like any ideology, can be misused by some -- as is the case with American patriotism, however people try to define the latter problems away); and joining in the chorus of protestation about what was, after all, a highly accurate if imperfect documentary by Michael Moore, even while equivocally praising it. On the other hand, we hear less about the media lockdown of Votergate 2004 from radically-credentialled Gitlin (who has other more politically or at least career profitable fish to fry) than from liberals like Fitrakis and Wasserman, who have done an excellent job in their ongoing expose of the subject, and many others, both liberal and progressive Leftist.

 

Indeed, little of the harsh, anti-liberal rhetoric is heard today on the left that was prevalent in the 60s -- in this respect, not only is Gitlin a liberal, but something of a provocateur of conflict between these two groups, who have much in common tactically and strategically at this point in history, despite differences. Highlighting patriotism does for this area of politics what putting the issues of race and immigration front and center does for Repuglicans -- it highlights points of difference that really don't have to be an obstacle for unity, but can be useful for that purpose, particularly when you want to make sure that one party (in this case the Left) loses out.

 

I notice also that this column appears in the LA Times, hardly a forum for Left debate. It is not intended even to bring forward a debate among Left/progressives but is addressed to garner sympathy from the liberals as against the left, especially those liberals prone to refer, without even seeing the need to argue the point, to such notions as 'Chomskyite crapola'. It is using the language of sectarian purge to mount a liberal assault on the left generically, one that could only be in the hopes that liberals generally will join in, and dump on the Left under circumstances where they dare not trash such things as the media lockdown of Votergate 2004 or the systematic omission of the flimsiness of the flipflop spin from the 2004 campaign, or the apparent effort, likely to be at least partially successful, on the part of the Democratic Party to throw the 2006 elections, to the extent it is possible to do so.

 

 One other thing. Repeatedly Gitlin tries to scapegoat the Left for the debacle of 2000. It is true that, in an election so close, ANYTHING could be said to have cost the election for the Democrats, but Gitlin insists on repeatedly focusing exclusively on Nader as scapegoat. I strongly opposed Nader then as in 2004, in venues (like WBAI) where insisting on voting for Gore was not popular in 2000. I note also that Bill Maher, on "Politically Incorrect", briefly endorsed Gore and then, without explanation for the shift, quietly shifted to Nader and condemned 'Bore' and 'Gush'. Maher was NOT a leftist -- but I wonder what forces were at work in the network to shift his stance. After all, his show was seen by millions, and that kind of network politics should be Gitlin's forte. There's one bit of investigative journalism I'd like to see -- interviewing Maher to get the inside scoop and back story on what happened, as opposed to some cover story to explain it away. When that and the media lockdown of Votergate 2004 get the same attention that his harping on Nader does, then I'll tune in; after all, that election should NOT have been close. It was the Democrats' to lose and they blew it, something that should not be laid at Nader's feet. Yes, Nader, among others, was a spoiler, but after all, Gore did win the election anyway, and it was stolen while no one dared file a class action lawsuit on behalf of all disenfranchised black voters in the state -- a much better venue than the West Palm Beach ballot, where all the DISadvantages of the old were combined without the ADVANTAGES of the new!

The Matt Bai review of "Off Center"


   The basic critique by Matt Bai of the book, as this review plaintly reveals, is simply that the book doesn't reflect Matt Bai's views.  This kind of substitution of solipsism for analysis is quite a popular dimension of book reviews in The New York Review of Books, regrettably, supposedly part of some "new journalism" that dispenses with the pretense of old-fashioned stodgy "objectivity", and here is one of the more extreme examples of its use being even superceded in The New York Times. (Even so, it is one of the reasons I VERY rarely read The New York Review of Books)

    One problem with its use in the New York Times Book Review is that the pretense of the voice-of-God objectivity remains, producing a noxious combination of the worst of both worlds, something like the way that Florida 2000 was handled, with no one daring (and presumably being permitted to dare) to file any lawsuit on behalf of all the disenfranchised black voters in the presidential election under the Voting Rights Act.  Here we have total 'new age' indulgence in 'subjectivist' reviewing masquerading as objective analysis.  For this reason, even to the extent that any of Bai's critiques are valid, his whole project here is deeply offensive.  His nonseparation of his own opinion from what is objectively valid seems to have served him well in his other coverage in the New York Times, where he has been a sophisticated exponent and indeed epitome of that art form properly dubbed 'justifying the lying'.

For my comments on Matt Bai in general, see: http://www.tpmcafe.com/comments/2005/12/9/14913/2712/14#14

Having commented on Matt Bai in general, I just want to focus here on the review. 

Closely parrallelling his conflation of his own political opinion with objective truth is his concomitant palming off, implicitly, of his rejection of this book as being, significantly, on a methodological basis at key points, even though he is pretty blatant most of the time that his critique is purely conclusion-driven.  Thus the term 'confirmational' analysis is exactly the language you describe (as in Bai's review itself) a book that merely states an opinion as given, and provides no evidence.  But Bai himself nowhere even suggests that such is the case.  

  
This confusion, which I insist is central to his critique, between methodological critique and conclusory rejection, is found in the perverse description of this "premise" (that the US public is no more conservative than it has been at any time in the last 30 years) is described as "buttressed with a sheaf of studies".  Well, excuse my linguistic nitpicking, but here it is crucial -- when you "buttress" something with a 'sheaf of studies', it is not really a mere "premise".  And this problem runs throughout Bai's whole analysis, including his 'confirmational' tag.

It may be a good point that there are greater national security concerns since 9/11 -- which was certainly the case in the 2002 elections -- but that explains neither the 2000 election, nor the 'mood' today, which Bai tries to cite as evidence, or rather (smugly) as proof that Hacker and Pierson are barking up the wrong tree.

But Bai has missed something crucial in citing the political mood since the election of 2004 to refute Hacker and Pierson.  The Repuglicans have yet to pay the price at election time that Bai seems to give the system credit for, in advance.  I would state here flatly, however, that if, in what I consider the unlikely event that the Repuglicans lose both Houses of Congress in the elections of 2006, Bai's point made now would at that point be well-taken.
But Bai, oozing smarmy smugness, wants to give the system credit for reacting to public opinion when it has not done so.  And polls overall in 2004 indicating how huge majorities of Americans felt that the country was heading in the wrong direction, even though the changes that came out of the election season were those one would expect in a period of widespread satisfaction with the status quo, do not give him grounds for doing so at present.  And backing into the future in social science, as Bai is implicitly doing, if one reads his critique and the overall logic of the argument he is critiquing, is extremely tricky.   Like I say, I expect that the 2006 elections will be more likely to bear out the
Hacker/Pierson model than the Bai smugness about the supposed 'vengeance of the center'.  And I would further predict that when what I expect does come about, Bai will be right with the pack in 'justifying the lying' to explain it all away.

      Funny, how similar it is to the logic of going to war on the false pretense of a near-imminent WMD threat, and its coverup by Iraq, and then totally rewriting the justifications for war when that justification, having served its purpose when fraudulently used, turns out to have been poppycock.  Bai in that sense is totally in tune with the dominant political forces of our time, which is precisely why I so despise him.  (Well, you could see that already in the link that I provided about him above.)

I want to add that the alleged emotionality of Bai, cited by Hacker and Pierson, is really beside the point.  You can be very even-toned, as bureaucrats are masters of, and at the same time be spouting pure BS.   Someone else might be quite passionate, like someone giving an antiwar speech, and be right on the money.   I'll take Cindy Sheehan and her passion over the dead-pan of Cheney or Rice any day of the week.

Now, from much of what I have read about the book Off Center, without, I confess, having read the book myself, I do not get the sense that the central thesis of the book is, as Bai at one point states it (but not throughout the review):

is this duplicity really the sole reason, or even the main one, that so many moderate voters continue to help elect conservatives?

  Bai seems to miss the notion that the system is rigged, and the misleading of much mainstream opinion (which apparently is less rightwing on the issues, and dissatisfied with the direction of the country) seems to be more a part of the problem than the whole.  On the other hand, the centrality of this issue points to what I consider the main weakness of the Hacker/Pierson argument as I understand it -- the failure to fully account for not just the modest visible measures, some with serious impact, that manipulate the system, but also the invisible 'glass walls' of repression that are so decisive.   I am reminded of an excellent moment when the since-deceased William Kunstler, about a year or two before he died, at the Brecht Center in NY, read from a Friendly Fascism type litany of the usual suspects of the Reagan/Bush pere era of civil liberties violations, and insisted that they constitute the emergence of a truly fascistic undemocratic state.  (I was at the same event passing out my leaflets about pervasive repression).  The bias of the system that you see is the proverbial tip of the iceberg, and it is the part that you are prevented from seeing, or effectively even discussing, that is decisive, including as to whether the visible part is held accountable or not.

I will merely give a few links that I think illustrate this issue well, but give one tiny illustrative example or two here.  If no one dared to file the kind of class action lawsuit I mentioned above, what dynamic, given that people risked their lives in the struggle for the Voting Rights Act, which was in effect being surreptitiously killed, prevented anyone from even filing the class action lawsuit that I mentioned?  Sure, it might have been futile, but as a recent article about jurisprudence in contemporary China illustrates, such suits are a crucial part of the struggle for freedom, and people living even under the gun of Chinese Communism are able to pursue such disfavored acts.  In short, American lawyers dare not do what even brave Chinese lawyers are able to attempt, for years, and still live to tell  the tale.  Yes, I think that the relevant lawyer community is to be excoriated for failing to challenge the system, but that failure also bespeaks a huge level of repression, even it that repression is unseen.

Consider also the dynamics of the media lockdown of Votergate 2004 or Ohio 2005.  I doubt that such matters are addressed by Pierson and Hacker as they cut too deep.  What keeps the mainstream media from daring to say more than peep about "sham elections", where the evidence of decisive fraud is greater than in the recent Ukraine elections.  You know, it is much more crucial in today's world, by leaps and bounds, that the US power elite be held accountable than 100 Ukraines.  (sorry to all Ukrainians who feel insulted).  The fate of the world is dependent on who rules America, not the Ukraine.  But the media lockdown requires cooperation from the likes of institutions like the New York Times.  This cooperation is hardly likely to be enthusiastic throughout those institutions, unless people like Bob Herbert have me utterly fooled as to who they are.  Clearly, there are dynamics that no theory of merely 'Repuglican' shinanigans as described in Off Center (as mediated through this site and Matt Bai), or anything like even the issues and dynamics raised by either Bagdikian or even Chomksy.  These are biases that transcend what the entire editorial staffs of some of these organizations may happen to feel.  It points in a direction of greater 'justifying the lying' totalitarianism than of the kinds of 'gaming the system' model that we seem to see in Hacker and Pierson.

I would add, to bring the analysis full circle, that in Matt Bai himself we see precisely the kinds of figures who are the 'personnel' of the machinery of justifying the lying, and the kinds of minds they have and the techniques that they use.  One thing is that they, with good reason, are so confident at not being called on their massive distortions and solipsism that they hardly even bother being more careful than Matt Bai (who I will add is one of the slickest pros at this, another nauseating thing about him) out there.  Matt Bai-ism is the ideology of media lockdown and its justification;  Pierson and Hacker fail to really even come to terms with how lockdowns are able to exist, as far as I have read about them to date.

Here are two links that at least provide some introductory material about my own views of the dynamics of what makes American politics Off Center:


http://www.tpmcafe.com/comments/2005/12/6/17442/1824/17#17

http://www.tpmcafe.com/comments/2005/12/8/185227/483/6#6

But just a few closing comments about the review.  Bai has a good point when he at least raises some of the apparent contradictions between the premises of Off Center and another book I have read a lot about without having read, What's the Matter With Kansas.  But since it is the more moderate Republican Kansas and the rise of the more rightwing Repuglican politics that Frank speaks to, rather than so much of the 'swing state' vote or the success of Repuglicans in places like Massachusetts, there is at least much wiggle room for both Frank and Pierson/Hacker.   What is more dismaying is the presumptive sneering at these seemingly quite serious attempts at analysis (which leave out the undertow of veiled repression issue I have long argued to be completely decisive, including as to what kinds of alternatives are available to Americans, and the authenticity of the often Ahab's peg leg nature of the "progressive" alternatives) as a kind of mere 'comfort literature'.  Bai essentially says in this review that all those analyses that do not embrace the mainstream meme of the Democrats being too weak on defense for the mainstream, and being too elitist, and not getting enough religion, etc. are mere thumbsucking.  He lumps together all these analyses on the ultimate basis of their deviation -- leftward or at least liberal-ward -- from 'getting with the program and justifying the lying', which is, after all, what Matt Bai is all about in the first place.

Fwd: HuffingtonPostblog I: copperheads in the Village


If brevity is the soul of wit, I think we have another Lenny Bruce here.

One thing about the counterculture and "pivotal cultural venues" like Greenwich Village. Especially during the period 1985-92 I gave literally hundreds of poetry readings in & around the Village alone, in all parts of the Village, nearly all of them at open mikes: ABC No Rio, Nuyorican Poets Cafe, Pyramid Club, Mosaic Books (on B St. now gone, replaced by some cutesy boutique), St Mark's Church, Life Cafe, Smoke Rings, etc etc etc. I noticed, as is also the case at WBAI, a huge proportion of the participants were what I would call "inauthentic progressives" or "family bohemians". The proper attire etc were there -- sometimes beads, sometimes tattered jeans, leather, or what-have-you, but there seemed to be a lot of the likes of the souls of Lord Mansfield and Louis Bourbon and other, well, not even Constitutonal democrats let alone authentic progressive cultural rebels among the readers and the audience.

It appears that what I call "red-headed league" progressives, after the Conan Doyle classic story by that name, where the protagonist tunnels underground to steal the French Gold ('or') from a nearby bank out of the basement of a pawnbroker. I almost never hear anything, even indirectly (a little, indirectly, with ass covered like 'Get Smart' in Ratso's STEAL THIS DREAM, but even then, denial is as inevitable as lies coming from the Bush Administration about why we are really in Iraq) addressed to this problem of swarms of copperheads and creeps, furthering the agenda, and manipulating the very notion of what is or can happen spontaneously at the astroturf roots. Everything goes on blithely as if it were all authentic, like someone pretending not to notice that his date is actually a hairy transvestite FBI agent.

I would be interested in what acute social critics of long standing, let alone tour guides, have to say about this HUMONGOUS subject.

I don't know what the concentration of copperheads was in the 60s, but listening today on WBAI, where you have whole choruses protestating about how HIV isn't a virus linked to AIDS, or how the World Trade Center wasn't really brought down by airplanes full of fuel but by the simultaneous detonation of explosives (often given multi-hour specials to promote such drivel) or how Tawana Brawley was other than full of it any way you slice it, you get a sense that, so to speak, "this isn't Kansas".

(I know it isn't Kansas, but it isn't what Greenwich Village type Bohemian culture is cracked up to be either. I gather this 'family bohemianism' is of long standing, as it would explain the rise of the popularity of Herman ("Benito Cereno")Melville out of obscurity in precisely that social context, in the 20s.

I suppose that, as far as brevity is concerned, this post makes me an assassin.

Posted by: cloudy on October 14, 2005 at 04:34pm


here needs to be a LOT more about race/diversity at TPMcafe


Yes, there is no such thing as "race" only "ethnicity".  Yes, ultimately progressive politics can only succeed by building broad class alliances, although it appears that the majority of white who vote with the Democratic Party are often above the median income in many states, so that the alliance of progressive politics is complex.  And yes, once you start talking about 'race', all kinds of silly arguments about political correctness become unavoidable, and a certain bitterness and divisiveness that many prefer not to experience enters the discussion.   But the only way that progressives are going to succeed in the US is with a broad "black-brown" alliance at the core, with a variety of progressive allies of this platform forming the heart of the opposition to the awful direction of Washington and imperialism.

After looking over the excellent and highly recommended website of the black commentator http://www.blackcommentator.com/index.html I figured that to have at least a columnist and perhaps some of the kinds of issues discussed there over here would be a start in the right direction.   I really don't know how or to what extent active 'recruiting' is done, but bringing up TPM cafe in a variety of venues where those groups who form the majority of progressives in the US are discoursing would be one idea.  And with the noticeable change in the 'complexion' of discourse, there would I think be an improvement in both obvious and subtle ways.

We could be in closer touch with what is going in so many of the places and issues we seek to address.  It would add a whole dimension to discussion about unionization -- where this is crucial.  We would be talking about the betrayal (see the black commentator) progressive black activists can feel when members of the black caucus like media darling Harold Ford and so many others vote with the Repugs on the bankruptcy bill, or on CAFTA or the 2004 Iraq Authorization or the 'no lobbyist left behind' energy bill or the legislation grossly limiting the power of plaintiffs.  It's shocking what Democrats in completely safe districts will vote for that has no popular base where they represent but much "upstairs", so to speak.   Lots of Democrats in many quarters are talking about the need to run progressives in primaries against Democratic incumbents, from an antiwar candidacy against Hillary to running some authentic progressive black candidates against black corporate stooges who can somehow get re-elected time and again where they aren't challenged.

And the list of concerns and perspectives goes on and on.  Immigration is one of the sleeper issues of US politics.  How it is manipulated more than how it is "resolved" could be one of the most decisive and divisive issues throughout at least the next generation.   And an ethnically diverse set of perspectives from the getgo is essential here.

The list goes on and on.   But surely something must be done.  After they FINALLY get the energy/environment table, that should be next in line at the cafe in terms of priorities, as well as a regular staple of the 'table for one'.

Tierney -- His Pants Down on Abortion Issue


 On the first offense, you note how he is, as someone supposedly pro-choice mind you, both arguing for the benefits of overturning Roe v Wade, leading to what he calls a "democratic solution" and simultaneously scapegoating NARAL as 'alienating moderates'.   Like Teflon, such alienation is nothing more than the function of the machinery of the mass media justifying the lying.  But Tierney doesn't stop at that -- he tries to burn both ends of this candle simultaneously, arguing for what he wants to scapegoat the left for causing.    The only reasonable conclusion is that it is the Tierneys who are the toadies of the Al From Democrats, who just can't wait to ditch the pro-choice position (wonder why?), and are in turn the front men in every way for the dominant politics of Toryism toward which this country is hurtling.   The best way to smell like a rose is to help those who decide what the party lying will be handle their crap.

         Then there is the history.   The Ku Klux Klan Act, both in its inception and in its history was far broader than Tierney tries to pretend.   You might look at the speeches of the Senate sponsor of the bill, Senator Edmonds, who speaks of it protecting not only blacks but Yankees in the South or someone who is a "Democrat, if you please".   Its clear political implications have been dodged for over a century, but its protection against conspiracies levelled at the rights of any class of women (including women seeking abortions), is well within the long-trodden mainstream of both the practice as well as the origins of SS1985. 

      [(The political side is something that many politically driven jurists, including "Whizzer" White, have looked for reasons to ditch, which is why McCarthy type tactics are not included -- it was never the liberal wing of the court, but rather the conservatives, who have always strongly pushed White's grasping at such straws as, in the Carpenter case, the fact that the final version of the bill originated in the House.   Straws of course, are plenty when you are justifying the lying.)]

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; It is Tierney who, suggesting that NARAL's jurisprudential approach is somehow extremist and out of the mainstream, when in fact they are NOT challenging the right to protest, but to protest in a way threatening to women seeking medical treatment at a point of their great vulnerability.    One should also note that the Supreme Court had MUCH broader protections against any demonstration against the Vietnam War that might provide an enticing distraction to students in school, as they ran to the windows rather than obediently listening to their lessons.   This differential strongly suggests that protecting the "right" of the right to harass is more sacred than protecting the right of the left to protest.   Such is what a close and honest examination of the facts reveals.

      But then again, we do live in an America where some ideas are simply not permitted expression at all, including EVER getting printed in the NY Times.    This letter aside, some people are simply not fit to print.


[The New York Times, although given literally scores of printable and short letters, unlike this one, every year from me, HAVE YET TO PRINT A SINGLE EMAILED LETTER of mine even edited, in OVER TWO YEARS OF my SENDING THEM!]

Why aren't my substantive blog & discussion postings appearing on page one?


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TOO MUCH FRIGGIN ROVE!!!!


HERE'S SOME OF THOSE OTHER ISSUES:

    The conclusion of the G8 Summit and the Live 8 folk prancing satisfied about the summit's approach to Africa.  The Iraq War, as always, out of control, and what the peace movement should do about it, including the issue of the internal politics of the peace movement and UFPJ.  We could have Medea Benjamin or Leslie Cagan at the table for one.  And what HAPPENED to table for one?  This site started off so well, I hate to see it lapse into a routine so easily.  The best stuff lately has been from the new table -- on labor.  That is indicative.

     There are a few other issues worth mentioning:  the upcoming key date for the UFW on July 19, the ongoing issues in Darfur, the use of the tsunami money to Indonesia as US arms bans to them are being quietly lifted, the total implications of 7/7.  Unemployment claims are up, the real estate bubble approaches bursting (what is going to happen when it does burst?), and two key signs of global warming remind us of something ominous: 98 degrees F in some remote Inuit town on the Hudson Bay whose previous high was in the mid 80s F only set in the 1990s, while the strongest July hurricane on record develops from the unusually warm water in the Caribbean.
Well, frankly, Rove can kiss my ass.  I would like to hear more about these other issues, and have someone NOT focuses on teh preferred scandal du jour, sitting at the table for one, and provoking us the way Tony Romero and Bernie Sanders (I finally donated!) did.

A REAL POTENTIAL TIPPING POINT


   I know that the smart money is holding back from committing on this one, but it is all too clear the with W Bush ready to appoint a replacement for a SCOTUS Justice who was the deciding vote in upholding Roe v Wade, the fate of that decision, at least for a period of years, is all but sealed.

         The timeline is something like this:   Bush appoints one of two kinds of replacements for O'Connor.    The first is an antichoice Justice who will be confirmed easily and with little effective opposition, like Orrin Hatch.  Another is that he appoints someone, who need not be any more awful than Orrin Hatch and may indeed be less so, who the Democrats can mount a filibuster to stop, but eventually the filibuster ends and they are installed in SCOTUS.  Many talk about Justices 'growing in office'.  Don't hold your breath.   This time around it isn't another Souter we're talking about.  This is the W presidency.

        Then Justice Roebuster is on the court.  A case that tests Roe v. Wade comes up through the Courts and the SCOTUS accepts it for review.  From that point, although it couldn't change the course of events, which was during the 2004 election, in the short run.  (The key points in the election that I was howling about were the way the Democrats AND the Democratic 527s and the press were mum whenever it mattered on the flipflop spin and the portraying of Kerry as soft on terror in the mainstream press by Matt Bai).
If you are silent and go with the program, the program is what you get.

        Nevertheless, in this profoundly sad moment in US history, precisely as the abortion test case comes to the SCOTUS, there should be more than the 1 million demonstration that there was in 1992.  There should be a continuous mass vigil throughout the country that goes on until the case is decided, with mass mobe after mass mobe within that time frame.  Why?

      First, it will mark a point in US history, when the country should understand the divide, and people (who are mostly pro-choice) will realize just what has happened to our society.  This reactionary moment will make people realize that not only is the country on the wrong path, but that they must no longer be swing voters or nonvoters.  The mass rallies will be unavoidable to the press, and will provide a means to counter all the justifying of the lying, smoothing the path for overturning Roe v Wade with the mass public.  Power builds on itself but so does accountability.
And by establishing during that moment, permanent networks committed to turning the politics of the country around, this moment in history will be a real tipping point, if we make it so.  It will not be unless we make it so.  There have been moments in US history where victory has been snatched precisely from defeat, and that is what we have no choice but to do.  The focus is not on the political process, which it seems to me has already crossed the Rubicon on  Roe.  It is for the mass public, to be a part of a political tipping point, one that is felt throughout the mainstream of society, everyone that isn't committed RightWing now.  And then and only then can the stage be set for a reversal of the vote of Justice Roebuster, and of the politics that put such things into motion.

      We may be slated to lose the battle, but we must not lose this war.

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