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I Truly HATE That I Was Right


An Associated Press article on Yahoo today unfortunately validated predictions I've made over the past few years.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090727/ap_on_re_us/us_soldier_slayings

Blogging about the PTSD tragedies our country faces because of the horror our brave young troops have seen and experienced during the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield war in Iraq has been painful for me.  My experiences as a corpsman in Vietnam left me with psychological scars that are still with me after more than 40 years.  I'm afraid the article above proves that many, many of our returning veterans will have scars which remain with them for the rest of their lives.

Everyone who has followed my blog for these past years knows my view of the Bush administration and the damage they inflicted on our great country.  Nothing can change that now.  The only thing left to do is deal with the consequences of their incompetence and immorality.  History will remember this group as the worst executive branch our country ever produced.

Responsibility for the 4,328 Americans who have died in Iraq lies directly on the
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield/Rice cabal who took our country into that unnecessary conflict.

Responsibility for every veteran who returns to kill, injure and terrorize their countrymen will also fall to those who sent them into that conflict.

The horrors the Yahoo/AP article describes is just the tip of the iceberg.  There will be hundreds if not thousands of these acts repeated over the next four or five decades.  Those statistics will become footnotes to the history of a war which should have NEVER happened!
And those body counts won't include the THOUSANDS of Iraq veterans who will commit suicide, fall into drug or alcohol abuse and a myriad other tragic consequences of their service to our country.

As the article describes these veterans are returning to the same bureaucratic nightmare we did.  Attempts to improve the VA and military response and treatment of PTSD is improving.  But at a pace which would make a snail appear speedy.  Not only that, the stigma which causes these brave veterans to feel that seeking treatment somehow makes them appear "weak" or "cowardly" or less "macho" is reinforced by the very people who should be supporting them.

One of the greatest evils of the Bush administration and the Republican machine during their reign was to brand Democrats as unpatriotic if they disagreed with Iraq policy.  Well, it's time to pay the piper and the blame lies not only with the "Bush Crowd," but with the Democrats who didn't have the courage to stand up to them.

To all Iraq veterans who read this, know that you have people out here who care about what's happened to you.  Know that there are others who KNOW the pain, anger and turmoil you are suffering.  Get to a Vet Center and talk to another veteran.  If you don't find the right person to talk to, go to another.  Don't stop until SOMEONE listens!  If you want to talk to me, leave a comment and we will figure a way to communicate.  I will listen and help you find that RIGHT person to talk to wherever you are.

DON'T think you are alone.  I know that tendency because I did it for 40 years.  Now I'm finally getting some treatment.  I know the struggle you are having with yourself.  I know some of the thoughts because I've had them too.  There are MANY of us who served in Vietnam who have fought for veteran's rights.  We care.

Don't look back in 30 or 40 years like I do at a life filled with regrets directly caused by PTSD.

For others who read this who know a veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts, listen to them.  Try to get them to talk to you.  Think before you ask a stupid question like:  "Did you kill anybody?"

 For everyone:  CARE, HELP, LISTEN.

Thank you.

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Chuck - had to comment on this wonderful post. My late husband was a veteran of WWII and the Korean conflict. He lived to be 73 but still was troubled by a buddy being killed right next to him on a destroyer. He often dreamt about it and had trouble speaking of it. These were wars that did not cause conflict in the states and the returning soldiers were treated as heroes. Not like Vietnam or Iraq where there was such turmoil here over our participation. It has to be so much more difficult for men and women today who know how so many feel about the fighting etc. Thank you so much for your caring and feelings about PTSD. You never know who you might be helping.

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Thank you for taking the time to read this and comment. My dad served in the Navy during WWII in the Pacific theater. His LST participated in the Okinawa landing. He never talked about his experiences either. I regret not trying harder to get him to talk after Vietnam but I was filled with my own demons. Now it's too late to have those conversations. I'm sorry for your loss. I'm sure you were a great comfort to your late husband.

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It is always good to hear from you Chuck. Your work is important and it is good that you share your thoughts with us. It is a compliment to us just to have you take the time to write to us.

I don't have any more clever words to say about all of this. We wanted peace but got war, again and again and now and in the future.

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Yez.

Chuck rawks.

I wish he'd blog more.

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While it certainly does not invalidate your larger, very important point, and it may go without saying, some of the soldiers are just plain bad people too (inconceivably there is significant gang activity in all military branches for example.)

And, that said, it is absolutely imperative to care for those who can be cared for.

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As a side note, my daughter works as a college's academic advisor. She recently called me in tears after meeting with student who had been taking some classes while on military furlough. The student was dropping out because she had been reactivated. The student was being separated from her four month old baby.

I believe the evidence about the psychological toll of such separation is pretty clear. The trauma here pales in comparison to what Chuck has described but it is an example of the way that the violence of war ripples out into society.

...and for what?

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For what, INDEED? War is bad enough when it is thrust upon us but this obscene conflict was completely unjustified and was started by arrogant, incompetent leadership for one reason: GREED!

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Aren't you really making an argument that childbearing women shouldn't volunteer for the army?

We don't have a draft, do we?

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Chuck: It is good to hear from you. How is your book going?
I'd like your opinion about something: I've been asked by a VA staff psychologist if I am willing to do art therapy with returning vets. I have doubts about it, not least because it is on a volunteer basis when I need to find paying work. But I also worry that vets regard that sort of activity as condescending, infantalizing. As if all their nightmares can be put to rest by drawing and painting. It even occurred to me that it might cause additional stress for those who do not have a natural talent in that direction, although I teach by demonstration and encouragement rather than critique.
What has your experience been, either personally or by observation, with this sort of therapy. Is it helpful or can it cause more harm?

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Maybe, you need to talk to my mom.

She was an RN in the PTSD program at Menlo Park for some years.

If you can, please do. Ask Thera for my addy.

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Thank you very much Bwak. I appreciate it.

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Least I can do to help...

She'll give you an honest appraisal of what is involved from the caregivers end, and the rewards.

(hugs Wendy)

Sorry, I needed that.

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Me too.

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I draw and paint (self taught). I think it would be more positive than negative in the long run. The few who would be offended or stressed by it would fail to show up. Go for it if you can afford the time. And thanks, as always, for your interest and comments.

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And give a thought for families in a situation like mine. My nephew enlisted in the air force following graduation from college. He has served a tour of duty in Iraq, and is now training for a career path I can't completely understand, not having enough military speak to get through the acronyms to the truth of what he will really do.

My brother and I were active in the peace movement in the 1960s and 70s. How do I support the nephew I love and my brother in his situation when I have deep (an understatement) reservations about the "career" the nephew has chosen?

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Just love your nephew, amike.

Sometimes, it is the bestest thing to do.

You all may learn something, so keep that love alive.

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It's a tragedy I predicted as well. And we're only seeing the first waves. Huge mistake to place so many in such a position.

Good to see you, Chuck! I'm hardly around anymore. I have a blog here:

http://wisdom4nothing.blogspot.com/

(and a couple more traceable through the grace note on the sidebar there)

Peace be with you. :-)

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Chuck, I share your sentiments. As a twelve year vet I quit after Vietnam when it became clear we were lied to just as has occurred today. A lot of people thought I was crazy (I was an E-7) but I told them I was quitting because I wasn't crazy. Best decision I ever made. Post Vietnam there were a lot like me who realized we had been screwed.

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Thanks for your service. I'm sorry you lost all the benefits a few more years would have provided. Truth from politicians would go a long way toward ending war all together but I have my doubts there is honor among such arrogance and greed.

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I actually ended up way ahead of the game. I was USAF and had a good education and in the intervening eight years before I would have been eligible for retirement I immediately quadrupled my military salary and thus made back every nickel of retirement even if I live to 75. When I got out the job market was great. It would have been much harder eight or more years later. It was timing more than anything that made it work out to my advantage. I got a big jump on establishing myself with a marketable skill that paid off handsomely in later years that would not have happened otherwise. Dumb luck really.

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One other thing about losing benefits is worth mentioning. I had five tours in SEA and I still see a therapist for PTSD at the VA and they never charge a cent. Don't ask me how this works but I can't complain about how good I have been treated by the VA. I know there are problems with the VA but I can attest to the fact that those problems have nothing to do with the caregivers themselves. They are a bunch of very dedicated and very caring people. This makes all the difference in the world.

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Best wishes, Chuck. I dedicated a piece of flash fiction to you and your work in a blog of mine a while back. Did you see it?

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No I didn't, Lulu. Would you email it to me or send a link in a comment? Thanks.

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I don't know how except to link to all my blogs.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/lulu_strauss/

Scroll down towards the bottom and there is one titled, "To Chuck".
I was here at TPMC in the past as RJB. You might recall me under that name as we shared interest in some of the same subjects and often commented on the same threads.

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On treatment: back in November there was some hope that PTSD could be treated by high dose corticosteroids applied strategically. Does anyone know what became of this?

My father had chronic heart disease and it was disconcerting how advice changed over the years. Nonetheless, significant medical progress occurred.
So I urge all of you out there to hang in there and keep checking for progress.

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There seems to be great hope for PTSD with both EMDR (eye movement desensitization Something-with-an-R) and EFT (emotional freedom technique). EFT uses simple acupressure points plus eye movement and brain hemispheric communications, it is simple, and usually less expensive than EMDR. You can find it at www.emofree.com , think it is. What a sorry situation for vets and their families.

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Kudos from a fellow corpsman, 2nd Mar Div, 1875-1977.

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Thanks and welcome home. We should talk about the old days.

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Of course, I meant 1975. I'm old, but not THAT old.

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It is required that there be dangerous people abroad so that we will be motivated to fund our armies. It is required that there be dangerous people at home so we will be motivated to fund our police. It is required that we sacrifice a portion of our youth so that we might have heroes. It is required that we respect our armies and police forces so that we will be motivated to fund them. Yet it is required that we disrespect enough of our returning veterans that we might have enough dangerous people to motivate funding our police.

Fortunately, we are not required to individually disrespect veterans, and I for one do not, not at all. The vast government bureaucracies will do the disrespecting for us. This is another reason why we maintain governments, other than as a way of maintaining armies and police.

Peace and freedom are the enemies of the state, everywhere. Praise be to our armies and police. They maintain our peace and freedom. They maintain our state. There is a contradiction here, too.

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Chuck, I hate that you were right. And I hate that I and many others who were shouting about this at the top of our lungs were right.

Here's my updated blog timeline of events in Colorado Springs preceding the formative period (for PTSD policy) of Sep 2005 to Apr 2007. http://snipurl.com/o3crs

This was also the time in which I learned that the best way to protest a war is to work in support of troop welfare because it does three things:

1) Calling attention to the sufferings of the troops directly erodes support for war

2) Forcing the military to pay for medical problems created in battle reduces funding for combat operations

3) Brings people from opposite sides of the issue together around a common cause (eventually, as is seen in Colorado Springs now)

Keep up the great work.


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Thanks for your support and work on this issue. Maybe someday we can rest.

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Chuck-
How goes it?

On active duty at the present, but plan to harass you sometime soon...
I saw some of your buddies over at the SEIU roughed up some Saint Louie local the other night. It reminded me of your "don't taze me bro" defense a couple years back.
Watching all these "radical" Americans at these town hall meetings has reminded me of you.

down range,

LT

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Great to hear from you. Stay safe. I won't pick on you too much right now about all my predictions coming true. Keep your head down and we'll talk when you get home.

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