Use It or Lose It: The Perils of Procrastination
'Never waste a crisis', the man said. Well, this is definitely a crisis, so let's not waste it. Particularly let's not waste it by repeating it. Let's not repeat it big time, in November.
There is a real danger that we might repeat it. Seizing defeat from the jaws of victory is a well-established tendency on the center-left. It could happen again. Indeed, if we choose to take the lesson of Tuesday from the Republican story book, it will happen. Republicans will tell us, and tell anyone else who will listen, that Massachusetts was lost because Obama was too liberal, too partisan, too determined to push government into places - health care in particular- where it ought not to go. The story line is nonsense, of course, but that won't stop Republicans selling it, and selling it effectively, unless we have a better story to put in its place.
We need a very different story, we need it loud and we need it fast. So what story? At least this.
· The Democrats did not lose in Massachusetts because the Obama administration has been too liberal. The Democrats lost because policy moderation and the appeasement of conservatives have drained enthusiasm out of the Democratic base in exactly the same measure as they have poured it back into the Republican one. Trapped between an inherited crisis and an intransigent opposition, an administration set on triangulation has angered its friends and inspired its enemies.
· So why triangulation, why the willingness to cut deals with conservatives? Is there political character-weakness here? The next nine months will tell us, but let us hope not. Let us hope instead that the deal making so characteristic of Obama's first year as president was made necessary (and done reluctantly) by the limited nature of the 2008 victory. Obama put together an electoral coalition in 2008 but he did not put together a governing one. The Democrats won both houses, but in name only. Obama came to the presidency with a large mandate for change. He also came with a majority so small that it gave blue dogs the balance of power. The story of the last 12 months is one of a liberal president facing a Congress that remains, in its key power centers, not quite liberal enough.
· Given that, the administration's willingness to cut deals - so irritating to so many of us - is best understood as a consequence of the lack of a liberal super majority, particularly in the Senate. Conservative legislative roadblocks there could not simply be wished away. They had to be negotiated round; and with the prize of a filibuster-proof majority there for the taking, the temptation to compromise was clearly too strong to be avoided. But it can be avoided it now, because that prize is no longer there to be taken. Things are not only bleaker this morning. They are also simpler.
· The lesson of yesterday is clear. The political space that opened up in November 2008 is shrinking, and shrinking fast. The administration must use it or lose it. It will lose it unless by November it has re-galvanized grass-roots enthusiasm for the new politics, both by what it says and what it does. The Obama administration needs to get its progressive groove back, by unambiguously advocating policies that put Main Street before Wall Street, manufacturing before finance, jobs before bonuses, mortgages before foreclosures, and public spending that creates jobs before deficit reductions that destroy them.
We now have clear proof of what so many of us have long suspected. Bipartisanship does not work. It is a self-defeating strategy for a progressive president. It re-energizes our opponents and demoralizes us. If the potential of 2008 is ever to be realized, Obama now needs to lead from the left, because leadership from the center is a certain recipe for a return of the politics of the right.
Harold Laski once told an earlier progressive party as a very similar moment - the British Labor Party facing a call for policy moderation in the face of mass unemployment in the 1930s - not to be so foolish. "You can peel an onion leaf by leaf," he wrote, "but you can't strip a live tiger claw by claw. Vivisection is its trade and it will do the stripping first". He was correct then, and he would be correct now. This is no time to be nice to Republicans.
It is the time to make again the case for progressive change, and to make it louder, stronger, and with greater determination that before.
It is time to put the Republicans on notice, time to challenge them to support active policies that impact immediately on the things that worry Americans most - the loss of their jobs, their homes and their health care.
It is time to put the progressive case in all its glory, let the Republicans vote against it, and go to the American people in November with clear proof of which party is the real blockage on the policies they so desperately need.
It is time to take the gloves off. It is time for progressives to answer back.
David Coates teaches political science at Wake Forest University. He writes here in a personal capacity. At his blog site - http://answeringbackdavidcoates.blogspot.com - you will find details of Answering Back: Liberal Responses to Conservative Arguments, Continuum Books 2010. David Coates can be contacted through Carol Cirulli Lanham at carol@sternersedeno.com
















Great post, David!
You hint at questions that I wondered about before BHO was even nominated. One was whether someone who had spent even a small amount of time in close proximity to U Chicago could be trusted to be progressive and to fight for progressive values. I will confess that my fear was that he might be too far left despite that exposure. I took comfort from his exposure to Chicago. Now I'm not so sure...
Another is: to what extent is the democratic deterioration due to their failure to deliver on healthcare and now probably on finance reform, i.e. their failure to protect Main Street while sheltering investment bankers. And how do we account for this. John Stewart made a comment the other night about GWB doing whatever the **** he wanted with nowhere near the same majority. How do you account for the Dems' spinelessness? I try not to take sides since neither party closely approximates my values, but if one of them would deliver substantive health reform with cost containment that recognized the necessity of a national risk pool and meaningful finance reform that included some remedy for the unemployed, I would most likely support that party.
And finally, there is no way anyone can cut deals with the devil and emerge with their soul. The Dems have lost their souls, IMHO. More evidence of a moral vacuum at the upper levels of power and wealth in this country?
January 20, 2010 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maxine, thanks for commenting for quickly. It is easier, I think, to see who not to support on health care. The Republican Party is ideologically and programmatically committed to market solutions to health care issues. But treating health as a commodity is exactly the wrong route to take. Buying a car, choosing an important medical procedure, are entirely different exercises - you can't take the health by pass operation back and ask for another; anyway markets only work if everyone has the same purchasing power. Not today's America! The Democrats have driven this issue, and rightly so; which is why now being blocked at the eleventh hour by the loss of Edward Kennedy's seat - Kennedy of all people - is so tragic. The big problem is that Democrats come in so many shades of blue; and unless the progressive voice is heard long and loud, the more conservative ones may use Tuesday as a reason/excuse for becoming more conservative still. Such a retreat would compound an already frustrating position - so close to at least some sort of health care reform, on which we could later build. That's why I think pressing Obama to move left rather than right is now more vital than ever
January 20, 2010 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
David,
The Medicare program has all sorts of perverse incentives in it's payment policies that lead doctors and hospitals to use way more resources than are necessary. As a consequence, Medicare can be profitable for hospitals who are happy to treat you expensively and not profitable for hospitals that have figured out a cheaper way to treat you with better outcomes. The result is that health care costs all of us for too much, and those costs are growing at unsustainable rates. Does it count as "treating health care as a commodity" to take those incentives seriously and figuring out ways to design payment incentives that are compatible with efficient quality medicine?
As a political scientist aren't you suspicious of people who claim that all the solutions to problems have a particular ideological signature. Why should the best way to reduce health care costs have anything to do with liberal or conservative ideology about what works. Is it your belief that progressive ideas are empirically superior, or are they just what you would prefer. (I think we have a fair amount of evidence that conservative ideological solutions to economic well-being have been an abject failure).
January 21, 2010 1:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Economides
Publicly-funded health care systems are not problem-free. Any systematic study of western European systems, both single-payer and insurance-based, show that. There are efficiency issues to be sorted out in medical care everywhere. But those inefficiencies are not the major driver of US health costs. Our insurance-based system absorbs nearly double the proportion of GDP as do the best of the European systems (the French and the German) from whose best practice we could learn much
It just isn't possible on a blog, of course, to put that argument together in convincing detail. That is what "Answering Back" was written partly to do: so if you want to follow my thinking on health care issues more fully, I would urge you to take a look. My general view - you'll see it there - is that progressive arguments are normally both empirically superior and grounded in stronger social values. I am not a progressive just because of my values. I am progressive because well-designed and implemented public programs make private markets work better and improve people's lives. That too is why I am keen to answer back to Republican claims that we need less government, not more.
January 21, 2010 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Appreciate the reply. I think it is perfectly fine to have your ideology tell you what to try to do, I think it is a bad guide for how to do things.
I'm not sure what you think the main driver of health care costs is? It seems to me that makes a huge huge difference in how you think you reduce those costs, or the rate of cost growth. Are you suggesting that having a large private insurance sector IS the major reason we have such high cost growth? If so,then how do you explain that costs grow just as fast in our public system as in our private one? (our public sector pays a greater share of health care cots than does the private sector. You know that right? )How do you explain the evidence that what differentiates high and low costs health care provision WITHIN our public Medicare system is some form of efficiency (an unwillingness to oversupply care, primarily)?
I am willing to bet that replacing all the inefficient care delivery with efficient care delivery would do far more to lower costs and cost growth than replacing the private payment sector with public payers. This is such any easy get for democrats, to focus public energy opn solving a major problem and yet it seems ideological blinders of a peculiar kind (we need "the public option" are largely blinding us to that fact).
January 21, 2010 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
What you said, David. As well as what Maxine said. Thanks, both of you.
January 20, 2010 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks so much to everyone for taking the time to respond.
January 20, 2010 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm chiming in for all of the above! It isn't over unless we let them write the narrative; we've done that up to now. If we don't change direction we're going to end up where we're headed.
January 20, 2010 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
January 20, 2010 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama was pushing Congress to pass their bills before the summer recess. Max Baucus refused. You are blaming that on Obama?
Which previous president has made more progress getting us to universal access to health insurance?
January 21, 2010 1:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
You'll have to forgive me if I don't see extolling congress to pass a HC bill before August recess as equivalent to leading from a less conciliatory stance.
January 26, 2010 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Health care, jobs, Wall Street, home mortgages, and prescription drugs are but a few of the forces destroying the middle class. Nothing that had undermined our citizens occurred accidentally. I and many of my ilk (registered Independent) DO NOT WANT the proceeding industries to be exonerated from what they have perpetuated! I don't want these thieves to walk away unscathed. It's obvious that Obama and his mob don't want to shut off the financial resources that the perps provide. I say, "Put them in a bathtub and drown the shit out of 'em...no prisoners! Moderation died the first time the GOP said "NO!" I have always tried to get in the first swing. This philosophy has been quite effective! Nice is for Boy Scouts!
January 20, 2010 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I fear that Obama's heart never was progressive. Too many of his moves has expressed status-quo timidity: especailly his economic team. He has surrounded himself with Chicago Boys, and he had to have understood their econominc beliefs, and not just hooked his star to the 'Chicago' name. ;-}
He has stated that he takes advice from all theories of economic thought, but we know from Kuttner, Stiglitz, Johnson, Volker, et.al. that is simply isn't true. If they were rookie mistakes, surrounding himself with Clinton re-treads and former Big Bank advisors, he would have veered off in a new direction by now.
His, Bernankes's, and Geithner's early plans to give almost all the regulatory 'reform' to the Fed and Treasury rather than independent agencies, in a word, smelled. The public may not know any of the theories his boys are working under, but they seem to grasp that the Administration believes a Wall Street Recovery and a growing GDP are answer enough.
In terms of health care, the public has been nervous partly because Obama wouldn't even tell us what he wanted from a bill; or his lines in the sand shifted with the phone calls of the day from Big Insurance, Big Pharma, and some cranky Congresspeople.
People are scared right now, as more people lose their jobs, their houses, their health insurance, and this President who told us that he would wage fights in our behalf, simply hasn't. If people saw him fight and lose, that would have been another matter.
He takes the easy road, the middle way, like his appointment of Sonya Sotomayor. A great political pick, but most legal scholars admit she's no lion. We applauded his choice, and certainly her, but partly because we just knew his next choice would be a great Liberal Lion. That hope is fading for me; the impact of SCOTUS choices can't be over-stated.
The Cafe has been going through fits lately; many of us here have been warning that the President's equanimity has been dangerous for a Democratic reign; I think we've been right. And we've been shouted down continually by folks who advise 'baby steps.' Now isn't the time, IMO.
Thanks for this piece.
p.s. Education was a huge centerpiece of Obama's campaign promises. Now maybe some of you like or admire Arne Duncan (I don't) but where is he???
January 20, 2010 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Virtually all of the President's economic advisers were educated at Harvard or MIT. If you have evidence to the contrary you should reveal it. I guess I regard the rest of your post as similarly ungrounded in fact and reality. You see what you want to see. it's probably better that way, since you should have no problem convincing yourself you are right.
January 21, 2010 1:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Economides:
They're not all from Harvard and MIT.
You missed the guy from Yale, Austan Goolsbee.
From Wiki:
"'Austan D. Goolsbee is an economist and is currently the Robert P. Gwinn Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago Graduate School of Business. He is also a Research Fellow at the American Bar Foundation[1], Research Associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and a member of the Panel of Economic Advisors to the Congressional Budget Office. He has been Barack Obama's economic advisor since Obama's successful U.S. Senate campaign in Illinois. He is the lead economic advisor to the 2008 Obama presidential campaign.'"
Goolsbee is also a Skull & Bones man:
From Rense.com:
"Barack Obama's top economics adviser is a member of the super-secret Skull & Bones society of Yale University, of which George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, and John Kerry are also members, reliable sources confirmed tonight.
Goolsbee is widely reported to have told Obama not to back a compulsory freeze on home mortgage foreclosures to help the struggling middle class in the current depression crisis, as demanded by former candidate John Edwards. Hillary Clinton has advocated a one-year voluntary freeze on foreclosures. Obama has offered counselors to comfort mortgage victims as they are dispossessed, citing the 'moral hazard' of protecting the public interest from Wall Street sharks.
By adding the infamous Skull & Bones secret society to his campaign roster, Obama, who bills himself as the candidate of change and hope, has attained a prefect trifecta of oligarchical and financier establishment backing .... "
January 21, 2010 8:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Austan Goolsbee got his Economics PhD from MIT. He was an undergraduate at Yale and got a masters there. I don't know a single economist in the world who thinks a person's training in economics isn't completely dominated by where they got their graduate degree.
Are serious about the skull and cross bones shit? You expect me to take anything you say seriously, now?
January 21, 2010 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
And I thought you a person with whom it was entirely possible to trade information in a friendly fashion. My mistake. Carry on.
January 21, 2010 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Trade information? I said virtually all of Obama's economic advisers were from MIT or Harvard, and that is entirely correct. You gave me some information about where one guy went as an undergrad. But where everyone went for undergrad is totally irrelevant to the accusation that his advisers belong to the Chicago School or the "freshwater" school of economics.
And if you think talking "skull and bones" conspiracy garbage is information, you have another thing coming.
January 21, 2010 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know what you are disputing. Here's who the Freshwater, Chicago Boys are; the President's advisors are mainly these guys.
Oh--look! This morning the Obama team has finally gotten some portion of the message that the MA election told us: people are pissed about his adminiatration's inaction on banking reform. They will now pretend they have been working on some of Volker's plans all along. Horseshit.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/simon-johnson/paul-volcker-prevails_b_430869.html
January 21, 2010 8:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
You don't really have the first clue what you are talking about with the "freshwater", Chicago Boy stuff do you? You do know that Boston harbor is saltwater, don't you? (East Bay by Berkeley is too). The Harvard and MIT economics programs are the predominant sources of the "saltwater" approach to economics. I dare you to even name one person with Chicago PhD among all his economic advisors (hah, I found exactly one on the senior economic staff of the CEA, and she's not even a Boy).
I swear, people frickin' believe and say anything they want without any foundation of knowledge. And I remember when democrats used to gloat that this was a malady peculiar to the right wing nut jobs who drove our country into the ground.
Economic Advisors:
Not one fuckin Chicago Boy among them:
CEA:
Romer, PhD MIT (teaches Berkeley)
Goolsbee, PhD MIT (teaches Chicago GSB)
Rouse, PhD Harvard (teaches Princeton)
NEC:
Summers, PhD Harvard (teaches Harvard)
Furman, PhD Harvard
Farrel , MBA Harvard
Jared Bernstein, PhD Columbia (Social welfare)
(VP's chief Econ adviser)
OMB:
Orzag, PhD LSE
Liebman, PhD Harvard (teaches JFK school)
Treas:
Geithner, MA SAIS (Hopkins)
Wolin, JD Yale
(dep secy)
Alan Krueger, PHD Harvard (teaches Princeton)
(Asst Secy Treas Economic Policy; Chief Economist Tres. Dept.)
Other notable outside advisers:
David Cutler, PhD Harvard (teaches Harvard)
Jon Gruber, PhD Harvard, teaches MIT
etc..
January 21, 2010 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
What an academic hairsplitter you reveal yourself to be, Economides. Lemme see -- according to you, there are no "Chicago boys" among Obama's economic advisors...
The fact that Goolsbee TEACHES at the University of Chicago is irrelevant, as he did not attend undergraduate school there.
Glad we've got that straight. On the final, would hate to get that true/false distinction wrong. But on the essay question -- the one that involves collating information, analyzing it and formulating an informed opinion -- you may be toast.
January 21, 2010 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obviously you know nothing about economics, and less about the somewhat esoteric dispute between different academic schools of thought in the profession. All you know is that Goolsbee teaches at the Chicago Business School, so he must be one of them. I guess you know a lot about guilt by association. Cool for you I guess.
Pretending that Goolsbee believes the same things about economics as Robert Lucas, Gary Becker, Gene Fama, John Cochran, Bob Barro, Milton Friedman, George Stigler, etc... just because he teaches at the same institution (and not in the economics department) is just ignorance.
For people who understand economics and the culture of the different academic schools of thought, this is about beliefs, philosophy, willingness to accept empirical contradiction of theoretical commitments. It is not a geography or even employment test.
whatever, actual understanding is not what you were after...
January 21, 2010 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
What tripe. FYI -- I am not personally an MBA or a PhD. But I did spend two intensive years at Wharton. Plus, in the company of those who did earn their MBAs at Harvard, Stanford, Penn, LSE etc;, I spent way too many years in the morally-askew, whirlwind world of Wall Street.
You? I sense academic self-aggrandizing. Declare yourself; awe me with your CV.
Otherwise, be polite and learn to hear friendly enquiry.
January 21, 2010 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I had heard of this particular separation of views by schools, but it seems to have already been breaking down in the late 80s, as described in this 1988 article:
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/23/business/fresh-water-economists-gain.html?pagewanted=1
I suspect it is a thing of the past.
February 19, 2010 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great post David. Thanks for articulating it so well. But with the president effectively throwing in the towel on HCR today your prudent fighting words of wisdom might be falling on deaf ears. But the case still needs to made vigorously, continuously, unapologetically and without reservation...
January 20, 2010 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just hope you are right, because the message I got was not clear at all, in fact I thought it was clear as mud.
How electing a conservative=go left or we'll do it again is so counter-intuitive, I have a hard time wrapping my head around it.
It's not deaf ears, it is not understanding the language...and since I can't understand it either, I have a hard time faulting them.
January 20, 2010 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is it not the case that the main delay in passing health care has been the difficulty of finding compromise between Democrats on the left and Democrats on the right and not negotiations between Democrats and Republicans? How does moving the party to the left (or the right for that matter) resolve that dilemma?
Hypothesis 1: the democratic party is not partisan enough.
Hypothesis 2: the democratic party is not unified enough.
How do you know which one is the explanation for not getting enough done and which is the prescription for future success? (and are we defining success as electoral success or actually improving the material condition of people's lives--sometimes known as solving problems?).
January 21, 2010 2:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I guess if the pragmatic approach of trying to satisfy the Democratic right and maybe "moderate" Republicans at the expense of your base, causes you to bleed support from BOTH your base and from independents, as well as accomplish very little, it might lead a sentient being to conclude that that approach does not work.
But you ask a lot of questions. The Socratic method only goes so far. Let's hear what you actually have to say.
January 21, 2010 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am an empiricist so I don't like to say that I know something if I don't. Ideologues usually behave exactly the opposite.
It's likely true that the Democrats failed to finalize legislation on any number of issues because they could not agree amongst themselves. In large part that is due to the screwed up Senate rules. One part of the democratic coalition seems too willing to throw a fit if they don't get their way. And another part seem to have a a psychological aversion to anything resembling political courage and seem far more intent on protecting their asses then doing one gall darned thing for the American people.
January 21, 2010 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. Couldn't agree with you more here.
January 21, 2010 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The Democrats did not lose in Massachusetts because the Obama administration has been too liberal. The Democrats lost because policy moderation and the appeasement of conservatives have drained enthusiasm out of the Democratic base in exactly the same measure as they have poured it back into the Republican one."
The other side of this coin and it really is in a sense just another way of putting it, the Democrats are bleeding support because there has been too little CHANGE from Bush-Cheney and that is what they were elected to do, that is what they promised to do. Before and beyond "post-partisanship, bipartisanship, pragmatism"; the most sacred part of Obama's campaign was change. Now governing from coordinates that are infinitesimally close to the Republican centerpoint is a violation of everything they stood before the voters in 2008 and said they would do. The broad understanding of the Obama betrayal is understood everywhere.
January 21, 2010 8:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am confused by how close to the republican center point you really think these issues are: universal health care, climate change, re-regulation in health environment and finance, fiscal stimulus (including major additional spending on education and energy),re-engagement in international diplomacy, ...
Calling this betrayal says much more about you than anything else.
January 21, 2010 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
here there is much more we disagree on. Let me know more about this thing called "universal health care"? I have tried paying attention (especially after being told repeatedly that if I had paid closer attention during the campaign in 08 I would have understood more and now STFU.) The health care bill does not sound good to me and Obama has actively tried to find the worst version of the bill possible, twisting arms to eliminate the public option and to tax union plans ("cadillac" plans). Isn't that your take? Climate change: my reading is that this is entirely limited and mostly window dressing. Again you may have better sources and I wouldn't mind knowing what positive steps you are referring to. Which financial reform??I had understood that Obama reappointed the Bush appointed Bernanke who presided over and in many ways blessed the financial excesses and shenanigans that led to the collapse at the same time financial institutions were making off with billions (trillions?). I understood Geithner advocated banker-friendly policies throughout his Federal reserve NY tenure, continuing with these policies today, and that these deals are still not open for our viewing and understanding. Arne Duncan is continuing policies (teaching for the test) that Bush pushed in NCLB...I have found those policies counterproductive. I am adamantly opposed to the massive escalation of the Afghanistan war. Do you support it? It certainly smacks of a continuation of Bush-Cheney as does the policies on rendition, the suppression of information on torture, the maintaining of Guantanamo and Bagram, illegal spying on Americans.
The fact that you presumably are comfortable with these abuses speaks very loudly about you.
Obama ran first and foremost as an agent of change. Before and beyond his postpartisan, bipartisan stances. Apparently many people (see Massachusetts) view his administration as betraying this promise. If you doubt it, the elections of 2010 are coming quite soon and if we do not get a very different governance, and quickly, we can discuss it again after the coming debacle.
January 21, 2010 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
You seem to equate bills that address core democratic objectives with admittedly flawed means as republican. I find that chocking as a democrat who has never seen a republican president or congress lift one finger to address these issues.
Prohibiting insurers from denying coverage plus providing tax payer funded subsidies to those who cannot afford it (though both public,i.e. Medicaid, and private insurers) is by far the largest step this country has ever taken to guaranteeing universal coverage under force of law. To say it's flaws, yes it has plenty of flaws, somehow contradicts the fact that millions and millions of people will be better off, more secure, and healthier as a result seems tragically shortsighted to me. Taxing union plans is probably the last thing anyone concerned about the welfare of workers should be worried about. Unionized workers have much more generous and secure health and pension benefits, not to mention reasonable wages than almost all other mainstream workers.
I don't see where cap and trade is window dressing. It is opposed by industry exactly because it is not. Does the legislation have flaws as it stands, sure it does. Did Obama plant those flaws. No, legislators are weaselly chicken shits, virtually all of whom are on the take. Again remind me when republican gave one shit about this issue.
The president has proposed a set of financial regulations and they seem to be making them even stronger today, than any republican are willing to countenance.
Look I could go on and on. I am not saying everything the President proposes is exactly right or that legislatures don't by their very DNA screw up almost every good idea. There are many things that I wish would happen sooner, but that doesn't distract form the fact that they are indeed happening. Washington can be a frustrating, f-ed up place, even when people are working their hearts out trying to get things right.
The truth is the giant ship of state is drowning in a muddy fecal infested morass that the Republican party willfully and almost gleefully drove us into. I think the President is steadily and surely trying to turn that ship around in what I believe is unequivocally the right direction. Lot's of times that means the the only available choices are shitty.. The Bush administration fucked us over in Afghanistan with their neglect. There are no easy answers. Just getting out condemns a lot of people who we have screwed over before to lives of certain misery. Staying and finishing the job guarantees another kind of misery.
My bottom line is we can all be disappointed with various aspects of what our representatives are doing, and we have to hold their feet to the fire. But it is much, much more important that we find a way to work together constructively as a coalition or we are all screwed.
Here's how you destroy a coalition: you express your disappointment in not getting your way by accusing the leader of the party of betraying you. That in turn makes some of your coalition partners wonder if they can trust you when the going gets tough. And one and on until it is mutually destructive of every one's pbjectives
January 21, 2010 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK. Thanks for your deliberate and thoughtful reply. I agree with you that the Obama administration is different from the Bush-Cheney on substance. Not different enough for me, and if I have time and energy later I will add to what I say now. But I do appreciate your comments.
Let me just address your last paragraph however for that is truly unacceptable. There are many ways to destroy a coalition; Obama and his minions have chosen one path (you may not be happy with their choices but it is not enough for you to say they have crossed the line). But they have surely thrown many overboard. If they had chosen to include more progressives in their discussions and in their direction, I would be aboard and maybe others would jump ship. Maybe, hopefully, they would have accomplished more (maybe not). But my aim is not to preserve your "coalition"; my aim was to substantially change from Bush-Cheney to something quite a bit different on very important (to me) benchmark issues. On this Obama is too much of a failure for me. Even on the things he has discretion over and can more or less dictate change by his power in the executive, on Cuba, on DADT, on renditions, on Guantanamo, on judicial appointments, his moves do not meet my minimal standards. Clearly you can tell yourself over and over he is doing all he can. I do not buy it.
January 21, 2010 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
"close to the Republican center point"
On foreign policy here is neo-con Robert Kagan:
" Obama has matched Bush as a warrior. "They have ramped up the military aspect of the war on terror. They've increased the forces in Afghanistan; they've substantially increased the drone attacks in Pakistan," said Robert Kagan, a senior associate at Carnegie.
"There's a lot of kerfuffle in the United States about what happens to captured terrorists when they enter the American legal system. The Obama administration, to some extent, is obviating that problem by assassinating them more frequently than the Bush administration was.""
January 21, 2010 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have nothing to add really.
Except good post and good comments.
January 21, 2010 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
let's get this link to the blog site right
It should be
http://answeringbackdavidcoates.blogspot.com
Please try that!
February 19, 2010 8:18 AM | Reply | Permalink