"the policies that have kept us safe for the past eight years"


"I hope my old friend Leon was misquoted," Cheney said, in a written statement to FOX News. "The important thing is whether the Obama administration will continue the policies that have kept us safe for the past eight years."

Do you enjoy seeing wingers foam at the mouth?  Point out that if Bush gets credit for the lack of (foreign) attacks (on homeland soil), then by the same reasoning Bill Clinton should get credit for keeping us safer for even longer.

The first time Al Qaeda attacked the WTC was in 1993.  There wasn't another terrorist attack (on American soil) (not counting attacks from right-winger terrorists) until Sept 11, 2001.   That's 8 years, 6 months and 16 days without a (foreign) attack (on American soil).   Or if we only count the time while Clinton was President, that's 7 years 10 months and 25 days.

From 9/11/01 until Bush left office was 7 years 4 months and 9 days.  Or counting until today, that's 7 years 9 months and 4 days.    

Either way you count it, if you start out with the bogus analysis favored by the wingnuts then you have to conclude that the policies of Bill Clinton kept us safer longer than the policies of George Bush.  Kept us safer without the legal gyrations to justify torture and advertise to the world that we torture.  Kept us safer without drawing attention away from the actual attackers in order to start a war against a tinhorn dictator who was uninvolved in the attack, and thereby giving al Qaeda the best recruiting tool it's ever had.  Kept us safer without setting up a prison in Cuba and advertising to the world that we are holding Islamic suspects without trials, even in cases where it becomes painfully obvious that we're holding the wrong people.  Kept us safer without anything like the Patriot Act that exploited the fears of voters and policy makers in order to sacrifice freedom in the name of false security.

Point this out and watch any wingnut who hasn't voided the warranty on their moral compass turn their brains inside out trying to hold onto the assumptions that let them think Bush kept us safe, without reaching the logical conclusion that Bill Clinton did an even better job of keeping us safe than Bush.

More conservatives dumping on Palin


Not as significant as the NRO item, but here's Ann Althouse, via an instapundit link:

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-will-be-answering-questions.html

Sorry, but I thought Palin's response Couric was painfully awkward. (I really don't care about Couric's problems.) Palin had a substantial knowledge gap, and she didn't know how to hide it. It felt too much like the possibly forgivable "In what respect, Charlie?" And when combined with the news that the campaign seemed to be finagling to move the VP debate to a later time, it made her look they way her opponents have been trying to paint her: unprepared and weak. It's really not good enough.

And here's Rod "Crunchy Con" Dreher admitting he was wrong about Palin:

http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2008/09/palin-debacle-on-cbs-evening-n.html#more

I remember the morning I woke up in my college dorm room and went in to take my final exam in my Formal Logic class. I knew I was unready. Massively unready. And now I was going to be put to the ultimate test. I sat down in Dr. Sarkar's class and resolved to wing it. Of course I failed the exam and failed the class, because I had no idea what I was talking about. I wasn't a bad kid, or even a stupid kid. I was just badly unprepared, and in way over my head. Seeing the Palin interview on CBS, I thought of myself in Dr. Sarkar's exam. But see, I was a college undergraduate who had the chance to take the class again, which I did, and passed (barely). I wasn't running for vice president of the United States.
More here: http://blog.beliefnet.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?tag=Palin&blog_id=38

And via his links:

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2008/09/25/sarah-palin-out-of-control-talking-point-machine-or-political-magnetic-poetry.html

It's like a talking points machine gone out of control. Or magnetic poetry that you have on your fridge—in fact, you can try it at home. String together key words and phrases like "shore up the economy," "reduce tax rates," "healthcare reform," and "trade" and see what kind of Palinisms you can create.
http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/25/we-guard-the-maritime-border-we-guard-the-american-dream/

I would like to imagine that the devoted fans of Sarah Palin, the people who believed her to be Reagan and Joan of Arc combined, who held out such hope for her as a future leader in the GOP and conservative movement, will be as irrationally and powerfully angry at McCain for putting her in the impossible position she is now in as they were enthusiastic about the selection of her in the first place.
http://rossdouthat.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/sarah_the_unready_ii.php

And now, an excerpt from my inner monologue, as transcribed while watching various clips from Sarah Palin's interview with Katie Couric (I can't link to them; they're too painful):  And that, Douthat, is why nobody's ever going to hire you to help pick their running mate.
(with links to his former support of Palin for veep).

Heckuva job there, McCain. 


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