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The Torture Photos: The Ultimate "Mixed Emotion"


What's the definition of mixed emotions?

The issue of releasing those photos has me in a cognitive dissonance more perfectly balanced, more difficult to find my way through than any conundrum in my recent memory. It's as difficult for me to answer as the "strawberry or chocolate?" question was when I was six years old (I'm not making light of a serious issue here, the ice cream question really was a "Sophie's Choice" in reverse as far as I was concerned).

I feel these photographs absolutely need to come out, that we need to bring to light virtually everything that was done at those prisons and other "black sites." (fat chance of the latter, of course) We need to prosecute everyone involved. Doing so is the only way to even begin making amends and to assure the world we will not do this ever again.

(he turns his baseball cap backwards)

I feel these photographs should absolutely not be released -- at least not while we have a couple hundred thousand soldiers standing in the very countries where publication would, at the least, unquestionably foster the recruitment of jihadists who hadn't previously planned on fighting. Worse, and more importantly, their publication would cause the deaths of many people on all sides -- I DO NOT believe those who say, "we don't know for sure if that would happen." That's crazy-talk to me. The question in my head, then: is releasing these gruesome photos now worth the deaths of innocent Iraqi and Afghan kids as well as young American soldiers? It seems every time there is a battle fought or a bomb dropped, a 100 civilians die for every soldier on either side.

Would the release of the photos really spur the average person in the U.S. to be pro-active one way or the other, or would the photos simply be grim and gratuitous pornography printed in mainstream magazines to slake the morbid curiosities of the otherwise indifferent -- while the sickos on the far right pin the images to their walls and take deep satisfaction at the humiliation of their enemies?

But if we don't release these photos, if we don't expose the horrors which were committed in our names, then the thing will occur again and all too soon. Without releasing ALL of these photos, those Americans who are philosophically on the fence may fall to the right and adopt the American exceptionalism attitude that without question was responsible for this mess in the first place...Dick Cheney, you fucking asshole.

I remember a rather un-funny joke from the early 70s; I was far too young to understand what it meant, but I'd laugh along every time my father told it -- and he told it a LOT. "What's the ultimate mixed emotion? It's when your mother-in-law drives off a cliff in your new Mustang." Years later, I came to fully understand why my father enjoyed telling this joke so much, but only after I started telling the thing myself

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Can you name a single facility beyond Abu Ghraib depicted in those photographs (there are supposedly a "half dozen") or what occurred at those locations or what the punishment was for those who initiated the abuse?

Until someone can answer that, it's pretty black and white to me. Revealing the photos will demand an explanation for those photos, I don't see anything else that will. We don't even know for certain that all the now-confirmed rapes happened at Abu Ghraib.

The photos aren't to spur the average person. They are to provide focused people and organizations with what is required for a citizen to legally demand action. But unless the media were to publish, clearly the average person would never be given the opportunity to assess in any capacity. The "media porn" assertion is utter, complete, unvarnished, cynical bullshit.

I also believe keeping them hidden puts our soldiers at far greater risk. With what has been confirmed, Al Qaeda can invent any scenario they want for recruiting and it will be believed. We have ceded the definition of truth to our enemy. We're better off facing a possible flare-up of hostilities resulting in closure than maintaining a systemic long-term recruiting device for our enemies by keeping these wounds open in perpetuity.

This is about protecting the hides of some career generals - not our soldiers. They are hanging our troops out to dry.

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Cosign. I also think the administration is resisting publication, as doing so will inevitably lead to an increase in opposition to the war(s) and the havoc we've sown in the Middle East.

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If the photos are as bad as some have reported -- though I don't know who or what to believe -- publication would absolutely do more damage than anything al Quaida offers only in conjecture. Photos are extremely powerful; if there really are pictures of an American soldier raping a female detainee, there is no doubt in my mind that publication would directly result in numerous deaths.

As far as my "utter, complete, unvarnished, cynical bullshit" about "media porn" -- you're telling me those explicit, nasty-ass photos WON'T sell magazines? Come on. All legal and ethical reasons for publication aside, these pictures would be shown ad nauseum as teasers to cable news shows, covers of national magazines, and, of course, the uncensored versions will appear at hundreds of websites that specialize in displaying the horrific. Finally, after a month, maybe two, people will become desensitized and they'll wait patiently for the next "media porn" story of the week; it's bound to come. For half the country, these pictures won't even seem real, but to the Muslim world, they'd be goddamned real, all right. If opened a worldwide magazine to a picture of some foreign soldier raping my sister, you can bet your ass I'm blowing some mutherfuckers up.

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"now-confirmed rapes"

Oh? Hearsay is not confirmation. A pic of a simulated rape is not confirmation. A suggestive pic is not confirmation. That said, shit does happen and there is a lot of distrust of the institutions involved (people think ass-covering is rampant).

The problem with pics is that they are generally meaningless out of context (without testimony and corroboration). A pic with an accurate story is both more informative and less inflammatory than a pic alone (tho' some informative stories can also inflame). For instance, a pic of a prisoner with sores means what? Does it prove the sores are the result of torture? No. Does it prove ill-treatment by guards? No. Does it prove a lack of medical care by guards? No.

BTW, I rec'd your blog with the long list of sites. I hope you can flesh it out.

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Thanks, eds. I've never done the blog thing before, I didn't even realize people could stumble upon it. I'm just intensely anti-torture that I need some kind of outlet. After watching "Tortured Democracy the other night on Bill Moyers, I can't control how angry I am that these things were, essentially, done in my name.

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That is a great production, well worth the time spent viewing it.
http://www.torturingdemocracy.org/

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