<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom">
   <title>belligerentliberal&apos;s Blog</title>
   <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/belligerentliberal/" />
   <link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/belligerentliberal/atom.xml" />
   <id>tag:www.talkingpointsmemo.com,2008:/talk/blogs/belligerentliberal//4398</id>
   <updated>2008-10-22T22:52:08Z</updated>
   
   <generator uri="http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/">Movable Type Pro 4.21-en</generator>


<entry>
   <title>Palin to take 3 days off the trail to visit ailing friend: John McCain </title>
   <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/belligerentliberal/2008/10/palin-to-take-3-days-off-the-t.php" />
   <id>tag:www.talkingpointsmemo.com,2008:/talk/blogs/belligerentliberal//4398.239205</id>
   
   <published>2008-10-22T22:44:14Z</published>
   <updated>2008-10-22T22:52:08Z</updated>
   
   <summary> Not to be outdone by Obama and his &quot;sympathy vote ploy,&quot; Sarah Palin has announced that she will be taking 3 days off from the campaign trail to visit the ailing McCain. &quot;This blatant pandering to the elderly, especially...</summary>
   <author>
      <name>belligerentliberal</name>
      <uri>http://belligerentliberal.com/</uri>
   </author>
   
      <category term="Cafe" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" />
   
      <category term="Election Central" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" />
   
   <category term="6938" label="grandmother" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="57" label="McCain" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="58" label="Obama" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="5365" label="Palin" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="6274" label="snark" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   
   <content type="html" xml:lang="en-us" xml:base="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/belligerentliberal/">
      <![CDATA[


<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Not to be outdone by Obama and his
"sympathy vote ploy," Sarah Palin has announced that she will be
taking 3 days off from the campaign trail to visit the ailing McCain.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><br />
</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">"This blatant pandering to the
elderly, especially those great pro-American Joe-six pack
grandmothers and fathers of the Jew persuasion living in Florida, is
really blatant and pandering. And they're not going to fall for this
sympathy vote ploy," Governor Palin told reporters before
announcing that she would be "suspending" her campaign to visit
her "gravely ill friend and very close person" John McCain.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><br />
</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">"While I would love to continue
visiting the pro-American parts of our this great country, it is
necessary for me to take these few days off to see John while he's
recuperating in a Jewish home for the aging in Florida," Governor
Palin continued before asking if there were any questions, winking,
and immediately leaving the press room. Reporters were then given 45
seconds to question the eight doctors who will be attending to John
McCain in Florida. Unfortunately it took nearly a minute for the
physicians to assemble on the platform, and once they did an aide
signaled that time had already elapsed.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><br />
</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">The McCain campaign released a
statement shortly after: <br /></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><br /></p><blockquote><p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">This stopover simply reaffirms what real
Americans already know: John McCain is an expert in health care. John
McCain has spent more time within the health care system in the last
20 years than Barack Obama and Joe Biden have throughout there
combined lifetimes. John McCain has seen more doctors than the
average 10 Americans. John McCain's copious medical records are a
testament to his health care know-how. And John McCain is not
endorsed by Hamas.</p></blockquote>]]>
      
   </content>
</entry>

<entry>
   <title>An application of George Will math</title>
   <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/belligerentliberal/2008/10/an-application-of-george-will.php" />
   <id>tag:www.talkingpointsmemo.com,2008:/talk/blogs/belligerentliberal//4398.238280</id>
   
   <published>2008-10-19T20:00:25Z</published>
   <updated>2008-10-19T20:10:36Z</updated>
   
   <summary> George Will: &quot;Obama gets two votes because he&apos;s black for every one he loses because he&apos;s black.&quot; McCain gets 3 votes because he&apos;s really old and decaying for every one he loses because he&apos;s old and decaying. Palin gets...</summary>
   <author>
      <name>belligerentliberal</name>
      <uri>http://belligerentliberal.com/</uri>
   </author>
   
      <category term="Cafe" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" />
   
      <category term="Election Central" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" />
   
   <category term="183" label="barack obama" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="6739" label="george will" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="360" label="race" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   
   <content type="html" xml:lang="en-us" xml:base="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/belligerentliberal/">
      <![CDATA[<meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><title></title><meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 3.0  (Win32)"><style type="text/css">
	<!--
		@page { margin: 0.79in }
		P { margin-bottom: 0.08in }
		H1 { margin-bottom: 0.08in }
		H1.western { font-family: "Times New Roman", serif }
		H1.cjk { font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode" }
		H1.ctl { font-family: "Tahoma" }
	-->
	</style>
<h1 class="western" style="font-weight: normal;"><font style="font-size: 0.8em;" size="3">George
Will: "Obama gets two votes because he's black for every
one he loses because he's black." <br /></font></h1><h1 class="western" style="font-weight: normal;"><font style="font-size: 0.8em;" size="3">McCain gets 3 votes because
he's really old and decaying for every one he loses because he's old
and decaying. <br /></font></h1><h1 class="western" style="font-weight: normal;"><font style="font-size: 0.8em;" size="3">Palin gets 5.5 votes because she's inexperienced for
every one she loses. <br /></font></h1><h1 class="western" style="font-weight: normal;"><font style="font-size: 0.8em;" size="3">Kerry got 2.3 votes for looking French for every
one he lost. <br /></font></h1><h1 class="western" style="font-weight: normal;"><font style="font-size: 0.8em;" size="3">Gore got 4.25 votes for being portrayed as a stiff by the mainstream media for every
one he lost. <br /></font></h1><h1 class="western" style="font-weight: normal;"><font style="font-size: 0.8em;" size="3">Obama gets 1.5 votes because his middle name is Hussein
for every one he loses. <br /></font></h1><h1 class="western" style="font-weight: normal;"><font style="font-size: 0.8em;" size="3">McCain gets 2.7 votes for acting like an
asshole at the debates for every one he loses. <br /></font></h1><h1 class="western" style="font-weight: normal;"><font style="font-size: 0.8em;" size="3">Palin gets 6 votes for
coming across as an idiot in her two real interviews for every one
she losess. <br /></font></h1><h1 class="western" style="font-weight: normal;"><font style="font-size: 0.8em;" size="3">The list goes on, and on...feel free to add your own.</font> <font style="font-size: 0.8em;"><br /></font></h1><font style="font-size: 0.8em;"><br /><br /></font>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: normal;"><font style="font-size: 0.8em;"><br /></font>
</p>
 ]]>
      
   </content>
</entry>

<entry>
   <title>The Bradley Effect, open and closed primaries, black demographics, the Yeldarb Effect, and confusion</title>
   <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/10/the-bradley-effect-open-and-cl.php" />
   <id>tag:tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com,2008:/talk//17.223786</id>
   
   <published>2008-10-12T20:16:06Z</published>
   <updated>2008-10-19T20:15:44Z</updated>
   
   <summary>After reading a not particularly interesting New York Times article about the Bradley Effect I decided to take another look at an older FiveThirtyEight article covering the same subject and using democratic primary data to come to the conclusion that...</summary>
   <author>
      <name>belligerentliberal</name>
      <uri>http://belligerentliberal.com/</uri>
   </author>
   
      <category term="Cafe" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" />
   
   
   <content type="html" xml:lang="en-us" xml:base="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/belligerentliberal/">
      <![CDATA[After reading a
not particularly interesting <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/weekinreview/12zernike.html?pagewanted=1&amp;_r=1">New
York Times article</a> about the Bradley Effect I decided to take
another look at an older <a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/08/persistent-myth-of-bradley-effect.html">FiveThirtyEight
article</a> covering the same subject and using democratic primary
data to come to the conclusion that the Bradley Effect may now
actually be the Yeldarb Effect. The FiveThirtyEight article uses data
from "31 states in which at least three separate polls were
released within 14 days of that state's primary or caucus"
comparing the final <a href="http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/08-us-pres-ge-mvo.php">Pollster.com</a>
trend line to the actual voting data. They conclude (well, the
numbers conclude) that Obama outperformed the<b> trend line</b>
by an average of 3.3 points.
<p><br />
</p>
<p>Since
it's a beautiful windy day outside I decided to sit at my computer
and further manipulate the data and I found a couple things that
probably don't mean much, but I think are interesting nonetheless.
<i><b>PPB</b></i><i> =
percent of state's population (or average of percentages for that a
specific category) that is black from <a href="http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/index.html">2006
Census.</a> All </i><i><b>variance</b></i><i>
numbers are the number by which Obama outperformed the Pollster.com
trend line.</i></p>
<p><br />
</p>
<p><b>PPB		&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Variance</b></p>
<p>19.9
+		&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 11.2</p>
<p>10 -
19.8	&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.19</p>
<p>0   -
 9.9	 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.5</p>
<p><br />
</p>
<p>Now
the confounding issue with the above little table is that out of the
7 states with a PPB of 19.9% or more, 4 have open primaries (i.e.,
any party affiliation can vote at any primary). And if we look at
this little table:</p>
<p><br />
</p>
<p><b>Primary Type	&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Variance 	&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PPB</b></p>
<p>open			&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 8.27		&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 17.8</p>
<p>closed			&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; 2.01		&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 10.6	</p>
<p>closed/semi		&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.68		&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 10.6</p>
<p><br />
</p>
<p>We
see that the open primaries (10 states) in general had a much higher
favorable Obama variance than the closed (10 states) or closed/semi
(semi-open/semi-closed - 30 states) primaries. But at the same
time, we have the confounding issue of the states with open
primaries, on average, having a much larger PPB.</p>
<p><br />
</p>
<p>I
like just looking at the number best: numbers are nice and clean and
simple. But if you want to try and actually interpret the numbers
things can get a bit hairy:</p>
<p><br />
</p>
<p>Why
is the +Obama variance so high in states with high PPB?</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pollsters
are not reaching enough black voters...</p>
<p>	&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The
open primary effect is skewing the results...</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Black-voters
are turning out in unexpectedly high numbers...</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Black
voters in these states lie to pollsters about voting for the black
candidate...</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; White
voters in these states lie to pollsters about voting for the white
candidate...</p>
<p><br />
</p>
<p>Why
is the +Obama variance so high in states with open primaries?</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Same
reasons as above...</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Republican
meddling...</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Unsure
republicans having a preference for Obama...</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Unsure
republicans having a dislike for Clinton...</p>
<p><br />
</p>
<p>What
effect did having a female running mate have on the Bradley/Yeldarb
Effect?</p>
<p><br />
</p>
<p>And
finally, what does any of this mean for 11/4? Will we actually see a
Bradley Effect in the general once more republicans are thrown into
the fray? Or will we simply see a continuation of the democratic
primary patterns? What effect will voter
intimidation/suppression/confusion have on the effects that may
already be effecting things? So many questions. So many permutations.
And really, who the hell knows.</p>
<p><br />
</p>
<p><i>Misc
notes: I used 19.9 to start the highest PPB category because Virginia
was at the cusp with 19.9 as of 2006 and I decided to drawing the
line at 19.9 is about as meaningful as drawing it at 20. I did not
use Iowa in any "Primary Type" data because I'm not really sure
were it belongs. I did use the other 30 states that FiveThirtyEight
had data for.</i></p>
]]>
      
   </content>
</entry>

<entry>
   <title>McCain mobbed at own rally for telling story about reaching across the aisle to work with Obama (snark)</title>
   <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/10/mccain-mobbed-at-own-rally-for.php" />
   <id>tag:tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com,2008:/talk//17.223676</id>
   
   <published>2008-10-11T21:29:03Z</published>
   <updated>2008-10-19T20:16:46Z</updated>
   
   <summary> In a telling sign that the McCain campaign&apos;s recent attacks on the character of Barack Obama and the overall &apos;terrorization&apos; of the democratic nominee is working to plan, McCain himself was attacked for admitting that he had consorted with...</summary>
   <author>
      <name>belligerentliberal</name>
      <uri>http://belligerentliberal.com/</uri>
   </author>
   
      <category term="Cafe" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" />
   
   
   <content type="html" xml:lang="en-us" xml:base="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/belligerentliberal/">
      <![CDATA[


	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	

<p>In a telling sign that the McCain campaign's recent attacks on the
character of Barack Obama and the overall 'terrorization' of the
democratic nominee is working to plan, McCain himself was attacked
for admitting that he had consorted with the presidential hopeful. 
</p>

<p><br />During an evening rally last night McCain began touting his
bi-partisanship and recalled a time when he "reached across the
aisle" to collaborate with his rival Barack Obama. But before
McCain could finish his tale of Washington done right, his stage was
rushed by a large group of overweight blond women and white men
shouting such epitaphs as terrorist-sympathizer, traitor, Muslim,
Arab, and ni**** lover. Even Cindy McCain was seen kicking her
husband in the gut with a $5,000 stiletto. 
</p>

<p><br />Once McCain's secret service finally wrestled away the bulk of the
assailants and after a few harrowing minutes between McCain and his
personal defibrillator, the republican nominee was able to compose
himself enough to thank the crowd for putting country first, while at
the same time rebuke them for woefully misplacing their hate. "My
friends, I am just like you," McCain insisted while bending
down, rolling up his sleeve and holding his forearm in parallel to
the unconscious blond mulletted man cluttering the stage. "I am of
the same skin -um...I am fundamentally the same as you. The enemy is
the other one," he continued, "I am just a Joe-the-six-pack like
you," he insisted while pointing behind him at the life-sized
card-board cutout of a smiling, winking McCain holding a six-pack in
one hand and making the thumbs up sign with the other. The crowd
grumbled somewhat reassuredly, most likely not completely convinced
because in the cut-out McCain was holding a six-back of Tsingtao.</p>

<p><br />After the rally, during a brief news conference, McCain derided
his rival: "If Barack Obama would have simply agreed to the 536
town-hall meetings I suggested, all of this uglyness could have been
avoided."</p>
]]>
      
   </content>
</entry>

<entry>
   <title>California&apos;s Prop 8 is making headway, so lets add an 8.5 too</title>
   <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/10/californias-prop-8-is-making-h.php" />
   <id>tag:tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com,2008:/talk//17.223246</id>
   
   <published>2008-10-10T00:00:12Z</published>
   <updated>2008-10-10T00:00:12Z</updated>
   
   <summary>As kos glowingly points out, Prop 8 is finally catching on. It had been looking like a no-go for some time thanks to those fags in San Francisco and their Nazi propaganda. But it&apos;s starting to look like the more...</summary>
   <author>
      <name>belligerentliberal</name>
      <uri>http://belligerentliberal.com/</uri>
   </author>
   
      <category term="Cafe" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" />
   
   
   <content type="html" xml:lang="en-us" xml:base="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/belligerentliberal/">
      <![CDATA[<p>As <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/9/16478/0653/30/625443">kos</a>
glowingly points out, Prop 8 is finally catching on. It had been
looking like a no-go for some time thanks to those fags in San
Francisco and their Nazi propaganda. But it's starting to look like the
more level-headed Californians are finally seeing things for what they
are and have accepted that marriage needs to be between a man and a
woman only.</p>
<p>Now with Prop 8 picking up ground, I say we stick in an add-on
amendment (they can do that, right?). We can call it Prop 8.5 and it
will just further strengthen the institution of marriage. Prop 8.5 will
change the California constitution to show that marriage should be not
only between a man and a woman, but between a man and a women of the <em>same race</em>.</p>
<p>If you read the bible as I do, and you read the same version as I
do, it's plain to see that God intended marriage to be between a man
and woman of the same race only. It is especially important to further
sanctify the bond of marriage thusly in light of the upcoming elections
and the problems that could arise if Barack Hussein Ayers Obama (God-forbid -
though at least he's straight (or is he?)) becomes president.</p>
And if for some reason the homo-loving P.C. wags in the California
congress don't add Prop. 8.5 to the ballot, I plan to pencil it in
myself and so should you. If we all make our will - God's will - known,
they'll have no choice but to cave to the righteous. Individually we
may be weak, but together, in numbers, and with anger we're strong.
Kind of like a mob.]]>
      
   </content>
</entry>

<entry>
   <title>So I was talking to my undecided black-friend</title>
   <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/10/so-i-was-talking-to-my-undecid.php" />
   <id>tag:tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com,2008:/talk//17.223091</id>
   
   <published>2008-10-09T15:53:06Z</published>
   <updated>2008-10-09T15:53:06Z</updated>
   
   <summary>Ok, so he&apos;s not really a friend, more like an acquaintance (and I&apos;m white if that matters to anyone). But anyway we were talking about something and he mentions a show he was watching so I segue to the last...</summary>
   <author>
      <name>belligerentliberal</name>
      <uri>http://belligerentliberal.com/</uri>
   </author>
   
      <category term="Cafe" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" />
   
      <category term="Election Central" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" />
   
   
   <content type="html" xml:lang="en-us" xml:base="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/belligerentliberal/">
      <![CDATA[Ok, so he's not really a friend, more like an acquaintance (and I'm white if that matters to anyone). But anyway we were talking about something and he mentions a show he was watching so I segue to the last debate (which he missed) and mention what a bastard McCain is. <br /><br />"You think so," he tells me in a surprised way, which is when I find out he's still undecided. I suppose it's naive of me, but I can't help but assume that the intelligent, cool people I know (or are acquainted with) are democrats, or at least, as tired of the Bush and Friends bullshit we've had to deal with over the last 8 years as I am. And I suppose the fact that he was black may have had something to do with the degree of my assumption (though I do assume this of my white acquaintances as well).<br /><br />He starts in with the spoon-fed crap about experience and Obama's flip-flopping (when the fuck did reevaluation and mind-changing become such a bad thing?), but the point that I thought was really interesting came out a little later in our conversation.<br /><br />He said he was worried how bad tings are with the economy and with the country in general being so deeply buried in the steaming shit Bush has been shoveling on us for 8 years (not his exact words ;). He's worried that if Obama wins and subsequently is unable to dig us out sufficiently, and things just continue to get worse, as they may regardless of who's in office at this point, that Obama may be seen as a failure and people will say (or think): <i><b>well there you go, that's what happens when you let a black guy run things. </b></i><br /><br />Of course, that's a pathetically bad reason not to vote for Obama, but I thought it was an interesting point nonetheless.<br />]]>
      
   </content>
</entry>

<entry>
   <title>the undecideds have decided (perhaps before the last debate?)</title>
   <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/10/the-undecideds-have-decided-pe.php" />
   <id>tag:tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com,2008:/talk//17.222714</id>
   
   <published>2008-10-08T04:42:50Z</published>
   <updated>2008-10-08T04:42:50Z</updated>
   
   <summary>I&apos;ve got a pretty intense distaste for those potential voters who have yet to make up their minds. Unless you&apos;re completely isolated from all forms of media and information dispersal in general, you should have made a decision by now....</summary>
   <author>
      <name>belligerentliberal</name>
      <uri>http://belligerentliberal.com/</uri>
   </author>
   
      <category term="Cafe" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" />
   
      <category term="Election Central" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" />
   
   
   <content type="html" xml:lang="en-us" xml:base="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/belligerentliberal/">
      <![CDATA[<p>I've got a pretty intense distaste for those potential voters who
have yet to make up their minds. Unless you're completely isolated from
all forms of media and information dispersal in general, you should
have made a decision by now. But that's a side-rant, here's the main
rant:</p>
<p>Compare the CBS snap poll of 'undecided' voters from the first debate to the CBS poll from tonight's debate.</p>
<p>Who won:&nbsp;&nbsp;  Obama&nbsp;&nbsp; McCain&nbsp; M.O.V.&nbsp; Draw</p>
<p>debate 1 &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp; 39&nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  25&nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp; +14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  36</p>
<p>debate 2&nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  39&nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  27&nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  +12&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  34</p>
<p>It's essentially the same. But it sure looked to me that Obama did
much better and McCain did much worse in this debate, and this
sentiment is backed-up by the CNN poll of all watchers (Obama debate 1:
+13; Obama debate 2: +24).</p>
<p>This leads me to conclude that about 65% of these 'undecided' voters
that CBS is polling are, in fact, decided, while the other 35% or so
are the kind of fucking idiots who buy whatever the last ad they saw
told them to and believe whatever the last pundit they heard tells them
is true. These 35% will likely just pick whichever name comes first on
their ballots.</p>]]>
      
   </content>
</entry>

</feed>

 
