Why?
I have a very simple - some might say simplistic - question. Apparently there are photos of further torture techniques out there that may be eventually released. At some time, in some way. Horrific, vile photographs.
A camera was used ... there was a photographer thinking about centering the shot, getting the light just right, clicking the shutter (not to be confused with shudder) at just the right moment.
Who was it? Who were they? Perhaps more importantly, why was the photographer needed at all? A moment in time is captured (no pun intended) for a reason. We've all done it. Happy Birthday. Surprise! Merry Christmas. You're so cute. Wow, look at that!
We've all laughed at a picture of someone else and said, "This will come back to haunt you one day!", never meaning any harm.
But they did. With every squinted eye they did. Why?
















You know Missy I think about this. A lot in a lot of different contexts.
Wiki tells me:
n experimental research, the term observer effect (also see Hawthorne effect) refers to changes that the act of observing will make on the phenomenon being observed. It has application in many fields of scientific inquiry, and may refer specifically to:
* Observer effect (information technology), the impact of observing a process while it is running
* Observer effect (physics), the impact of observing a physical system
* Observer effect (psychology), how people change their behavior when aware of being watched
It may also refer to:
* Observer Effect, an episode of Star Trek: Enterprise, named after this effect
It is sometimes conflated with:
* Heisenberg's uncertainty principle
I mean the guy or gal taking the picture is effecting the outcome, the goings on as it were.
I suppose like anything else the photographer is saying:
Hey, I need to get published, get stuff on the ole resume. Besides I need the two grand to make it this month.
Somebody gets paid to take the 'final picture' at an execution.
Really got me thinkin' Missy. Like you always do.
May 14, 2009 2:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
"* Observer effect (psychology), how people change their behavior when aware of being watched"
Did it make a difference to the people being tortured? Was that the plan?
Still, I wonder. Who made the plan, and who was dumb enough to think photos would never surface? After all, they were turned over to someone, viewed by many. Too many fingers spoil the pie.
May 14, 2009 3:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Missy -- I've also wondered about the photographers (and, now I suppose, videographers). I'm sure, though, that it's not a one-size -fits-all answer. Certainly there are those calculating few who are coldly looking for the Pulitzer; others may be so numbed by the horror that they have become automatons; still others may know there is nothing they can personally do to stop it and hope that their shots may ultimately lead to exposure (no pun intended there either).
The next logical question is more uncomfortable: what would you do in their circumstance? What would I do?
May 14, 2009 3:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
You seem to be assuming that there is an element of choice, and there may very likely be. I don't know. Could it be truly possible to win a Pulitzer for that type of "work"? I hope not. Ultimately leading to exposure ... perhaps. I am afraid that the photographer is just another minion, another notch in the belt of injustice.
May 14, 2009 3:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, this is spot on, and I just posted a blog on this topic.
May 14, 2009 3:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
A Pulitzer? No, that's for published news organizations, not for internal military/CIA/Blackwater torture porn.
The reporting that uncovers all this abuse, that's another question. That is entirely Pulitzer-worthy. (Hersh, etc.)
May 14, 2009 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here and here are photos of a suspect who was clearly beat up while interrogated by the police.
No one ever goes around thinking they are evil. There is important work to do and sometimes it's messy. Documentation is documentation. In order to fight a battle, the first rule is to dehumanize the enemy. There are no absolutes in the world.
And sometimes things get out of hand.
That's why there is civilian control of the military.
Humans are never going to be perfect and it's unclear how to perfectly act in all situations (if indeed, there is a perfect solution at all). The important thing is that the system has the capability to rectify itself. That is the marvel of this story. That's really the most you can ask for in this world; the ability to self-correct.
May 14, 2009 3:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. Human nature is the best reason to NOT go to war without desperate need. It will always produce atrocities.
May 14, 2009 7:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
The police are required by law to photograph a suspect and record, via audio and video, any interrogation. To protect the accused. The basic information can be found on many websites. This is not about the police. Although, the comparison may be apt.
This is about "combatants", for lack of a better term. Are you saying that the photos are standard documentation? Then it stands to reason that the refusal of voluntary release of said photos/audio denotes a reason to protect the accuser.
May 14, 2009 4:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's a good question, Missy. I hope we find out the answer.
May 14, 2009 5:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
These are not photos or video taken for "documentation" in any meaningful sense.
When I say that, I say that as someone who does just that, except most assuredly not for anything involving torture. Sure, I've pointed cameras at fires, at medical emergencies, at drug busts, and at other "interesting" things.
My own preference is for things like the magic of moving water, the incredible range of complex beauty nature puts up all around us (if we will only bother to look), or that most wonderful of natural forms, the incredible range and depth of beauty women bring to the world.
And the idea with all of them, the extreme and the beautiful, indeed everything I do, is that ultimately there is an audience. Whether it's someone watching the six-o'clock news, a webcast, or strolling along a gallery wall, the final piece of the long, slow arc of interaction is the work being seen. Ideally, by as many people as possible, and hopefully with a nice check attached at the end.
These were taken for very different reasons. And very different audiences.
Some of it was for sheer mindlessly perverse enjoyment by people like Charles Graner and Lynndie England. Does anyone not think these front-line bad apples (and indeed they were) had themselves a good laugh the next day, looking at their handiwork of last night? It's sad and yet somewhat understandable. Neither of them appears very bright, they both seem (to my nonprofessional eye) to have more than one or two screws loose, and hey, it's all just good fun, isn't it?
And then there's Cheney, and Eric Prince, and the other ones at the top. They did indeed also want documentation, except for them, it was more like pornography. It excited them to see other human beings, human beings from very far away, in some cases with barely pronounceable names, thus very abstracted, in a word, "dehumanized", being beaten, terrorized, and in some cases, killed. The suffering of others does that for some people. They regard it as a very rare and exclusive luxury, something to which they are by their rank and privilege entitled.
We also see that with those who would consign others to lives of penury and wage-slave misery, but I digress.
The people who took these photos, and recorded the video, they were enjoying their work, such as it was, because as it's been said, here and elsewhere, they were damaged people to begin with, and undamaged people do not torture.
Somewhere along the path these materials took, their purpose changed. At some point, they turned into something that the well-off, well-connected, and powerful - who would never "dirty their hands" with such activities, who always rigorously maintain a "safe distance" - got off with.
Lord Acton told us that absolute power corrupts absolutely. And he was far too right about human nature. Or at least, the nature of some who call themselves humans.
May 14, 2009 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know what Grouch. I gonna really piss you off some day, take one of your longer comments and cut and paste it and make it into a blog.
Hell, I'd get 150 comments.
Just when we need a photographer to jump in, there you are.
You have had an interesting life.
Ah ps. only kidding. I would never dooo that.
May 15, 2009 12:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's only one of multiple hats I've worn.
Pizza guy, machinist, building maintenance, restaurant cook, parking attendant, retail, insurance sales (the thing in life I was the absolute worst at, without a doubt) - those are most (not all) of 'em.
And the photog thing has to do with both stills and video, and both journalism and art. Among other things.
It does make for interestingly informed perspectives, does it not?
May 15, 2009 1:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Absofrickinlutely. ha
May 15, 2009 2:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Cheney: the country of men, not laws. Unlimited executive branch authority in all decisions. Judiciary and Congress allowed to agree.
When they decided to 86 the laws of the land insanity reigned. For what are laws but the sum of historical learnings codified.
Lacking legal and by the way, rational restraint, the evil twisted little soul of Cheney was freed to wilfully choose to torture when there were options that were proven to be effective and what a concept, legal.
The photogaphic recordings were made with their release into the digital media certainly preapproved. Much like in the 1500's drawing and quartering and burning at the stake were deemed appropriate for the public's enlightennment by religious and secular authorities. Actions that were thought to promote the agendas of kings and religious leaders and Stalin and the STASI were adopted by Cheney and his minions. It helped recruit enemy soldiers to prolong the war and maintain an emergency war powers executive branch of government. It served to diminish opposition from Homelanders who knew they would suffer the same fate. And it did serve as a green light for the Lesser Homeland Authorities to start racking burglary suspects. What we allow even the least to suffer we eventually inflict on ourselves.
Cameras don't torture. Cameras are tools that allow people to create art to inspire and educate our fellow visitors on this planet. Sociopaths get equal access and give us images of their mental illnesses. Cheney and the DOJ's flurry of Findings and Opinions and Memoranda are attemts to prove their peculiar version of truth. The cameras recorded the actual truth of deeds which do mirror the country of men, not laws.
May 14, 2009 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
The other photographs were taken by troops. Very important questions, Missy. How? Why? Who?
May 14, 2009 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just imagine if the "who" were to recount the details behind the photos. After all, they were there - they saw everything above and beyond what they observed through the lens. And they had their orders ...
May 14, 2009 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is brilliant! Yes! How right you are!
May 14, 2009 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
The general level Who got reassigned, and the Secretary of Defense Who behind the orders remains at large. They danced the Scapegoat Minuet reserved for The Greater Whos, and got a good media foreplay fluffing.
The low rank Whos had their orders. And they had their general orders too so they were pretty well destined to get raped with no foreplay in a military prison. Follow the orders and end up in Leavenworth identified as a bad apple. Disobey the orders and end up in Leavenworth just the same. Cop a plea, write a book, what the hell...
May 14, 2009 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
When you think about it, Abu Ghraib was the most documented torture atrocity on record. Photos, videos, written documents, undoubtedly audio recordings... huge amounts of stuff.
I've never believed this was the work of a few bad apples, sickos acting out their own demented fantasies. There was something about this appalling process that was too orchestrated and posed, too ritualistic. And, most importantly, it went on too long - month after month.
No. This was organized. With direction and purpose. The bad apples fell from poisoned trees.
But why? Would being photographed naked, hassled with dogs, stacked in pyramids... would that stuff break down a disciplined terrorist, or even a committed amateur. Cultural differences be damned - we're talking about men willing to strap on bomb vests and fly planes into the sides of buildings. Somehow, I think the real insurgents would weather this storm, no matter how atrocious, pain-wracked and humiliating.
So why was it done? Why was it so meticulously documented? Just for all of us to see? Just to blow up in faces?
Well... who else saw these ugly photos? Well... Arabs. Right? Everyday "men and women on the street" Arabs. If someone wanted the entire Arab world to hate Americans up close and personal, there are few better ways to do it; by degrading these Iraqis, we were degrading Arabs. Remember, even after the Iraq invasion, these "everyday" Arabs told pollsters they hated American policy. Not Americans.
Then Abu Ghraib happened.
If they hate us, that way, personally, as a people... we'll have to fight them. We won't have a choice. To the extent they hate us, they'll come after us. Over here. Up close. Dreaming of the day they can dog-walk us down Main Street, perhaps. Their distaste for us will make them our sworn enemy. On and on, into eternity - just like all the Mideast grudge-matches.
Was that the idea?
May 14, 2009 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe, but as I commented above (and in numerous other places) I think this was more along the lines of torture porn for Cheney, Erik Prince, and some of the other sick, twisted individuals who feed on the generation and delivery of human suffering.
They want a safe distance, of course, because they would not deign to dirty their own hands, they just want to get off behind the screams and pain of others. And they're terribly, terribly afraid, yes they are, that this might happen to them in some way, or that some poor shackled prisoner might somehow, even encumbered by his fetters and surrounded by guards, break free for one moment and inflict a glancing blow to their person.
These are truly sick bastards and contempt is far too mild a term for my view of them.
That said, I think the photos should be treated as evidence, and not used for sensationalistic headlines.
May 14, 2009 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe, if it was intended to feed the perversities of a few dark princes at the top, such torture and degradation would have been conducted on a much smaller scale. Remember, the photos show the victims not in basement dungeons, or soundproofed rooms, but out in the middle of the cellblock, in full view not only of the prisoners, but of guards, interrogators, officers - anyone on hand at the time. Nothing was hidden. I may not be right in my theory of the motivation, but these disgusting sessions weren't simply crazed larks by twisted individuals. And I think it was too "big" to be a sideshow for command-level creeps. That's the key factor: It was so big.
May 14, 2009 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think we get to know the answer to your question until the photos are released. The Abu Ghraib photos came from a variety of sources, most of which were not official. In the age of digital cameras all kinds of things are being photgraphed and later retrieved as evidence when, a the time they were taken, it was really not a big deal to the participants. It will be interesting when we find out.
We know that in the case of the CIA videotapes of the torturing of prisoners they were specifically made in order to document what went on and that is why the tapes were destroyed---because they were evidence that would incriminate the partcipants.
May 14, 2009 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Missy,
Just a consideration -
As pointed out in posts by others, the harm and ongoing damage to individuals psyche is not limited to those who were the direct recipients - but extended to those who had to participate in other ways too. (And yes, I acknowledge there are those demented ones who were and would always be gleeful participants. But, I do believe these are the minority - just as all other deviants.)
To have experienced any aspect of these horrific actions up front and personal will forever haunt most who were mandated to in any way participate.
This is but another layer of this odious matter.
Thanks for post, as always, appreciate.
May 14, 2009 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good to see you, Aunt Sam. Always.
I really wasn't questioning the people who took the photos as much as why they were taken. But, I don't have the luxury of trying to determine the psychological ramifications to those who participated. If we go down that road, don't we then have to extend the same courtesy to Bush, Cheney, the OLC, etc.?
I'm wondering about the point, the "why". Specifically.
May 14, 2009 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Missy, as stated -
'(And yes, I acknowledge there are those demented ones who were and would always be gleeful participants. But, I do believe these are the minority - just as all other deviants.)'
I waste no time on worrying or postulating about sensibilities or damage to psyche of the 'monster architects and their accomplices'!
The point is that there were those who on behalf of our government were mandated to be the photographers. Ironically, those pictures may be what causes the supreme downfall of those truly responsible.
May 14, 2009 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
At the risk of invoking Godwin's law, I'll just point out that atrocities committed at places like Dachau were also extraordinarily well documented by the Nazis.
May 14, 2009 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good question M. I'm assuming there were some persons assigned to study the ongoing 'techniques' with the task of 'refining' the technique(s) so as to 'improve' them. ie. timeframe 10:31, interrogator should have increased/decreased pain/restraint to achieve a more 'positive' result. Sick f#cks!
May 14, 2009 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink