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Surprising, and made me think of Obama's lines about "one president at a time"


and "delicate negotiations":

U.S. Rejected Aid for Israeli Raid on Iranian Nuclear Site
by David E. Sanger, January 11 New York Times headline story:

President Bush deflected a secret request by Israel last year for specialized bunker-busting bombs it wanted for an attack on Iran's main nuclear complex and told the Israelis that he had authorized new covert action intended to sabotage Iran's suspected effort to develop nuclear weapons....

...the Bush administration was particularly alarmed by an Israeli request to fly over Iraq to reach Iran's major nuclear complex at Natanz, where the country's only known uranium enrichment plant is located.

The White House denied that request outright, American officials said, and the Israelis backed off their plans, at least temporarily. But the tense exchanges also prompted the White House to step up intelligence-sharing with Israel and brief Israeli officials on new American efforts to subtly sabotage Iran's nuclear infrastructure, a major covert program that Mr. Bush is about to hand off to President-elect Barack Obama.

This account of the expanded American covert program and the Bush administration's efforts to dissuade Israel from an aerial attack on Iran emerged in interviews over the past 15 months with current and former American officials, outside experts, international nuclear inspectors and European and Israeli officials. None would speak on the record because of the great secrecy surrounding the intelligence developed on Iran...

The interviews also suggest that while Mr. Bush was extensively briefed on options for an overt American attack on Iran's facilities, he never instructed the Pentagon to move beyond contingency planning, even during the final year of his presidency, contrary to what some critics have suggested.

The interviews also indicate that Mr. Bush was convinced by top administration officials, led by Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, that any overt attack on Iran would probably prove ineffective....

Instead, Mr. Bush embraced more intensive covert operations actions aimed at Iran, the interviews show, having concluded that the sanctions imposed by the United States and its allies were failing to slow the uranium enrichment efforts. Those covert operations, and the question of whether Israel will settle for something less than a conventional attack on Iran, pose immediate and wrenching decisions for Mr. Obama....

Certainly looks like a lot of bloggers and others like Seymour Hersh and Larry Johnson were pushing the wrong assumptions on the Iran story.


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There have been other dribbles about this I think. I'm not so sure Hersh was on the wrong track. Bomb, bomb Iran was the track Cheney and gang were on, but Bush ended up going with Rice. Probably up until last week though, there was always nervousness in the State Dept. that at some point Cheney would finally win the day.

I'll see if I can dredge up where I was getting this.

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There are different constituencies in the administration. The arguments for "preventive war" were entirely convenient and applied only to Iraq, in Bush's mind. He had no personal interest in Iran, and was not easily persuaded to risk the now-shaky "achievements" in Iraq by blowing up more stuff. People on the outside, like Kristol et al, were just noise. Cheney just wanted to scare Iran, I'd bet.

It does comport with my personal prediction to a conservative friend, when Bush "Doctrine" as offered as reason for Iraq, that no other preventive wars would occur.

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I think the prelude to Iran was so clearly similar to that of Iraq -- which had occurred only a few years before -- that the American populace would really have talked about "Fool me once, shame on your, fool me twice, we won't get fooled again."

You have to remember that we simply can't open up a 3rd war effort at this point either. The military is already cutting back on research and development budgets -- and if the DoD is getting squeezed to pay for the war, you know how bad it really is.

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It remains difficult to figure out the convoluted thinking of the current administration. But I have to go with clearthinker here. Our military is simply stretched too thin for any more significant involvement. And Gates is smart enough to make that argument stick, with a little nudge from Rice.

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If Iraq had not proven to be such a disaster and demonstrated the true incompetency of this administration, and if, if , if , if, we probably were going to invade Iran.

I have no absolute proof of this, but I think the neo-cons really wanted several more wars in the Middle East.

But with the approval rating of w down in the 20s and loaw 30 for over two years, he just did not have the 'political capital' to go ahead with these plans.

This NYT article is interesting.

Thank you for pointing it out.

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What did Hersh get wrong? All the reports I read were that the Bush regime was planning for such a move. I never read it was a done deal. I've no doubt they have done the planning, but I also read in numerous places that the new Chairman of the Joint Chiefs was openly opposed to any attacks or assiting any attacks on Iran. It could simply be an instance where stupidity failed to win the day in the Bush regime... for once.

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A couple of things I just read that I sense might be related to the relationship between Bush policy, Obama policy, and intel the public doesn't know about. Don't ask me to explain why, because it's basically just based on intuition.

....At the outset of Clinton's hearing, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., the new chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, pressed her on whether Obama sees a nuclear-armed Iran as unacceptable at any cost, or merely undesirable.

Clinton responded: "The president-elect has said repeatedly it is unacceptable. It is going to be United States policy to pursue diplomacy — with all of its (tools) — to do everything we can to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear weapon state. As I also said, no option is off the table."

She said the new administration would pursue a broader approach to the problem of Islamic extremism in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

On Iraq, Clinton said....

from
Clinton vows smart mix of diplomacy, defense
ROBERT BURNS and ANNE FLAHERTY
AP News, Jan 13, 2009 12:16 EST

....Even before the war in Gaza began, Iran started an aggressive public campaign attacking Egypt and Saudi Arabia for failing to bring an end to the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip. The attacks were aimed at King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia and President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt.

“King Abdullah, the puppet king of Saudi Arabia, is not expected to ignore the demands of his American and Zionist masters and frown at what is going on in Gaza,” read a column in Iran’s most conservative newspaper, Kayhan, which is aligned with Ayatollah Khamenei. The paper also said, “one cannot expect Hosni Mubarak, who has on several occasions demonstrated his subservience to the Zionists, to open the Rafah crossing for the disaster-struck people of Gaza.”....

from
Iran Gives Hamas Enthusiastic Support, but Discreetly, Just in Case
By MICHAEL SLACKMAN
New York Times, January 12, 2009

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Gang of saboteurs related to US crushed in Iran

Tehran, Jan 13, IRNA -- A gang of saboteurs related to the US government was recently discovered and destroyed, Judiciary spokesman, Ali-Reza Jamshidi said on Tuesday.

Speaking to reporters at his weekly press conference, Jamshidi said the gang was related to the US government and involved in efforts “to bring about a velvet overthrow of the government.”....

"They were linked to the CIA, backed by the US government and State Department... They recruited and trained people to work with different espionage networks to launch a velvet overthrow of the Iranian government," said the spokesman.

He added that more details would be made public "within two days."....

http://www5.irna.ir/En/View/FullStory/?NewsId=302346&IdLanguage=3

Iranian protesters back Gaza and burn Obama picture

Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:11pm GMT
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Dozens of Iranians burnt posters of U.S. President-elect Barack Obama in Tehran on Tuesday and waved Palestinian flags in support of Gaza, according to a witness and photographs....

The demonstrators, waving Palestinian flags, some chanting "Death to Obama," had gathered outside the Swiss embassy which handles U.S. interests because Tehran and Washington have not had diplomatic ties for nearly three decades.

Pictures obtained by Reuters showed the president-elect's image laid on the road for cars to drive over it, and other images showed demonstrators burning the Obama poster....

http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews1/idUKTRE50C4IQ20090113

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Obama team takes new tack on Iran amid Mideast peace push January 13, 2009

WASHINGTON (AFP)

....In her opening remarks, Clinton drew a link between Iran's anti-US and anti-Israeli attitude and US goals for regional peace and stability.

She called for a "strategy of smart power in the Middle East that addresses the security needs of Israel and the legitimate political and economic aspirations of the Palestinians" as the death toll in from fighting between Israel and Hamas neared the 1,000 mark.

Clinton said she also hoped it "effectively challenges Iran to end its nuclear weapons program and its sponsorship of terror."

The New York senator said the new strategy also could "persuade both Iran and Syria to abandon their dangerous behavior and become constructive regional actors."

She added that she hoped it "strengthens our relationship with Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, other Arab states, along with Turkey and our partners in the Gulf, to involve them in securing a lasting peace in the region."

Iran has long called for a "grand bargain" that tackles a broad range of issues in the Middle East.

In making her appeal, Clinton sought to weigh the concerns of Israelis against those of the Palestinians as Arab and Muslim anger mounts over a Bush administration perceived to be overwhelmingly biased in favor of Israel.

"The president-elect and I understand and are deeply sympathetic to Israel's desire to defend itself under the current conditions, and to be free of shelling by Hamas rockets," Clinton said.

"However, we have also been reminded of the tragic humanitarian costs of conflict in the Middle East and pained by the suffering of Palestinian and Israeli civilians."

But she repeated the Bush administration's opposition to negotiations with Hamas, which it labels a terrorist organization, unless it recognizes Israel, renounces violence and abides by past peace deals.

"That is just for me an absolute," Clinton said.

The former first lady and presidential candidate said the war in Gaza had underscored her and president-elect Obama's determination to seek a just and lasting peace deal with the US-backed Palestinian Authority of Mahmud Abbas.

"We will exert every effort to support the work of Israelis and Palestinians who seek that result."....

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jHxrse1HSFMc4tFdmUrRrgZL1tcA

13/01/2009 expatica.com

Obama's Iran policy could lead to tensions with Europe

Obama's proposed initiative of harsher economic sanctions could lead to tension with European countries, which have closer financial ties to the Iran....

Although he has also said he would negotiate directly with the Iranian leadership, his first intention is to use "tough ... direct diplomacy," beginning with harsher sanctions which he wants to be put in place by the West independently of the United Nations....

http://www.expatica.com/be/news/local_news/Obama_s-policy-on-Iranian-nuclear-activities-could-lead-to-tensions-with-Europe-_48573.html

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