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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Classy.  Rahm Apologizes On Behalf of His Family for Arab Slur by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I can't speak for others, but I have no interest in visiting the shrine of any mass murderer whether it be that of Goldstein or Arafat.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[apacmember Commented on Jerusalem, the Eternal City&apos;s Eternal Mess by Jo-Ann Mort]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>My last comment to you, asshole: I am a hater. I hate people like you trying to kill my cousins in Tel Aviv softly with their kindness towards thugs.<br />
Nobody in Washington with any poweer will listen to you or Rosenberg. Live with it.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[apacmember Commented on Jerusalem, the Eternal City&apos;s Eternal Mess by Jo-Ann Mort]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>When President Obama, Vice President Biden, Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader Reid  and Ambassador Ross demand Israel give up all of the West Bank and all of East Jerusalem, please let me know. Fortunately, they won't.</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on J Street is Now The Largest Jewish PAC; It Took a Whole Year! by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>First, thank you for spelling my screen name right. Second, sorry to disappoint you and your cohorts here, but having worked in my life for two of the greatest liberal Democratic Governors elected in Connecticut and New York and having contributed over a thousand dollars to the Obama-Biden campaign, my views are not in sync with all the neo-cons you name, and I personally wish that AIPAC finds other evangelicals to ally with than the odious Rev. Hagee. </p>

<p>Where I differ from Mr. Rosenberg and his cohorts is that I am firmly behind the Bill Clinton--Dennis Ross realistic approach to a two-state solution, not the George H.W. Bush-James Baker-Jimmy Carter moralizing and naive approach, and I am confident that the course I favor will be the one that President Obama, with the help of Vice President Biden and Ambassador Ross, will adopt.  I am absolutely certain that the vast majority of liberal Democrats in both the House and Senate will continue to advocate the approach I favor--no matter how many candidates J Street endorses. And Mr. Rosenberg, before you quote me too widely, keep in mind that is what I meant by my friends and I continuing to control how Congress views Israel.</p>

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		    <title>apacmember Commented on J Street is Now The Largest Jewish PAC; It Took a Whole Year! by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Mr. Rosenberg, please wake me up the next time somebody with real power in Washington D.C. adopts your views as a matter of Administration policy or Congressional legislation. bett McCollum is a nice lady with whom i agree on maost matters. She ddoes not have power over U.S. foreign policy.</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on J Street is Now The Largest Jewish PAC; It Took a Whole Year! by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
			<published>2008-11-09T21:22:51Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>You just like to mis-name me and mischaracterize  my views. You never respond to my specific points because you can't.</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on J Street is Now The Largest Jewish PAC; It Took a Whole Year! by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>The naivite is all yours. You can help J Street  encourage the Government of Israel to adopt policies you favor. Nobody in Jerusalem who counts will pay any attention, and there ain't a fucking thing you, or Rosenberg, or Levy, or Mort or Finkelstein or Lerner or Avaishai can do about it, because my friends and I will continue to control how key Congressional decision-makers view Israel--J Street notwithstanding--for the forseeable future. </p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on J Street is Now The Largest Jewish PAC; It Took a Whole Year! by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Mr. Rosenberg, please ask your friends at J Street to declare that they will only endorse candidates who publicly call for the withdrawal of all Israeli troops and civilians from the West Bank, and the end of all checkpoints and barriers on the West Bank. Then let's count the number of Democrats who meet those requirements and who seek J Street's endorsement in 2010 under those conditions.</p>

<p>You know and I know that the reason J Street can claim so many Democrats sought its endorsement was because all they had to do was say they supported vigorous diplomacy to achieve a two-state solution and the letter sponsored by Rep. Ackerman--a down the line AIPAC man--calling for targeted economic aid to the Palestinian Authority. AIPAC does not oppose either one. You know and I know--but your devotees here don't-- that if J Street ever adopts a position that the U.S. should suspend aid or reduce diplomatic backing if the Government of Israel does not do what the State Dept. demands, or that the U.S. should declare the military option with Iran is off the table, that not a single one of the Democrats who sought J Street's endorsement this year will be seen within 100 miles of it.</p>

<p>So please try to leaven your exuberance with reality--yes, J Street members support more diplomacy with Palestinians and Iran and Syria than about half of AIPAC members would support, but for the most part J Street is not about to make life very tough for liberal Democrats to accept a few thousand dollars from it. Those liberal Democrats are not going to pressure either Livni or Bibi to do anything, and your readers should know that.</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Rahm Emanuel:  Nobody Puts That Baby In a Corner by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
			<published>2008-11-08T21:37:47Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey Goldberg is right. Rahm Emmanuel no doubt does have the will to tell the Israeli Prime Minister to dismantle outposts and settlements that are ILLEGAL UNDER ISRAEL'S OWN LAWS.  That is far, far different than telling the democratically elected leader of  Israel to withdraw entirely from the West Bank or to tear down a wall which has prevented Israeli civilians from being blown up while they eat a pizza in Jerusalem.</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Rahm Emanuel Is No Likudnik by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Listen to me very, very, clearly: Barack Obama will not do to Israel what Fisk, Rosenberg and you want him to because he knows--and the people closest to him know-- what happens to presidents who fuck with my friends and me. They get dis-elected.</p>

<p>Of course, there will arise tactical disagreements between President Obama and the democratically elected leader of the State of Israel. There were disagreements, believe it or not, between Sharon and later Olmert and George W. Bush. But when those occur, I am confident Barack Obama will know how to resolve those without public scolding and diplomatic ineptness. That's why I supported him.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Actually, jerk, Rahm Emmanuel, along with David Axelrod and Joe Biden (one of Israel's greatest champions in Congress), will help prevent President Obama from turning into President Carter--a one term failure.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Actually, Mr. Rosenberg, I spent quite a few hours working for the federal government and learning how power is exercised in a democracy from the great Morrie Amitay. Morrie knows more about Mideast diplomacy than you ever will. </p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[apacmember Commented on Reid Spokesperson: Democratic Senators May Vote On Lieberman&apos;s Fate In Full Caucus Meeting by Greg Sargent]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I supported Joe Lieberman when he was a true Democrat, but because of his allying himself so clearly with McCain, I won't support his staying as Chairman of that committee. That said, ignorant people like you who accuse him of being loyal only to Israel just show their innate bigotry. Lieberman's position on why it is in the interests of the United States for Israel to be strong and secure is one that every single Democrat in the U.S. Senate agrees with except for Robert Byrd.</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Rahm Emanuel Is No Likudnik by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>You have a very simplistic view of how power is exercised, Mr. Rosenberg.</p>

<p> Dennis Ross will not do what he is told to do unless he agrees with that policy, he will be central to formulating that policy, and there is absolutely no evidence that he told Baker and Bush to threaten the Israelis in 1991. There is plenty of evidence, including his books and his interviews on Charlie Rose, that he does not agree that your brand of diplomacy--i.e. prescribe the terms of a settlement and tell Israel to take it or else-- will be effective in persuading a weak Israeli Government to take calulated risks for peace.</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Rahm Emanuel Is No Likudnik by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Be careful of the 78% figure of American Jewish support for Obama based on exit polls, unless you are certain--which I'm not--that Orthodox Jews are proportionately represented in those exit poll samples. Anyone looking at results from Monsey and Borough Park Assembly Districts in NY--areas of Orthodox voter concentration-- will see much more than 22% support for McCain.</p>

<p>Michelle Obama is an accomplished woman and will make a great First Lady, but she's not going to decide I-P policy. Barack Obama will, aided by former Ambassador Ross who was Bill Clinton's Mideast expert and who did infinitely  more than anyone posting here to try to fashion a lasting two-state solution.</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Time For Israel To Mend Fences With President-Elect Obama by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>You not only have my screen name wrong, you have my politics wrong too. A distant relative founded the Labor party, and I've been for Peres and Barak, and now, though she's not from Labor, Livni. </p>

<p>I don't support peace-at-any price Meretz or their American enableers like you, Levy, Miller and J Street.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Who do you think will be Chief of Staff? Dennis Kucinich? Don't make me laugh. My friends and I will not allow anybody with that kind of influence who has a track record of hostility to Israel. Live with it, schmuck.</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Time For Israel To Mend Fences With President-Elect Obama by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>"AIPAC, the most influential of them all by a factor of about a hundred, played it straight and that helped Obama. It told anyone who asked -- and plenty did -- that he is kosher, so to speak.</p>

<p>Of course, AIPAC did not get to be the 800 pound gorilla it is by being stupid. It understood that Obama was likely to win and that going all-out for Hillary or McCain would harm the organization."--M.J. Rosenberg</p>

<p>Thank you, Mr. Rosenberg. On that, you are absolutely right. </p>

<p>"With the exception of one or two House members from Brooklyn and Queens, no Democrat is going to oppose Obama should he decide to push hard for peace."</p>

<p>It crucially depends on what you mean by "push hard for peace". Sending Bill Clinton and Obama's key I-P advisor,  Dennis Ross, to the region on January 21 with a mandate to renew the Taba offer will receive virtually unanimous support. Leaking anti-Israel jibes, or, even worse, emulating James Baker's or Andrew Young's public scolding of the Israeli government, however, will surely cause erstwhile allies of Obama like Dick Durbin and Chuck Schumer to publicly complain. </p>

<p>I supported Barack Obama, in part, because I was impressed with his intelligence. He is far, far too smart--not to mention the important advice he'll get from Joe Biden--to do what you and Levy and Aaron Miller want: i.e. try to impose a settlement or threaten Israel when its Government refuses to make concessions it deems dangerous.</p>

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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Those Prop 8 Ads by Josh Marshall</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>As  readers of almost all TPM Cafe pieces dealing with Israel know, I have been  vociferous in defense of that nation's strength and security. If an advertiser wanted to advocate death to the State of Israel, as pir_anha hypothesizes, I<br />
would hope that TPM allowed that disgusting ad so that I and others who share my viewpoint could attack it vehemently in a way that persuaded other TPM readers to move closer to our way of thinking.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Well-reasoned and insightful, Mr. Alessi. Thank you.</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Greg Palast and RFK, Jr. on How The Election Could Be Stolen by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>For once, you have usefully educated TPM readers by posting Mr. Palast's piece. I am glad you did.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[apacmember Commented on Jews Big for Obama While Unrepresentative &quot;Conference of Presidents&quot; Hijacked by Republican Party by M.J. Rosenberg]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Is there any evidence that the Conference would not have done the same thing had Sen. Obama's campaign asked it to notify its mailing list of an Obama conference call with Jewish leaders?</p>

<p>I'm strongly for Obama, but this is really a non-story. Did you ask Americans for Peace Now to comment on this? If so, what did they say? If not, why not?</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Unhinged by Todd Gitlin</title>
		        
			<published>2008-11-03T03:27:56Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>On most of the other issues I have no strong disagrements with the majority of posters. (If I did I would never have donated over a thousand dollars to Sen. Obama's campaign.)</p>

<p> So I prefer to spend my limited time focusing on dispelling the anti-Israel and anti-AIPAC canards that infect Mr. Rosenberg's and Mr. Levy's and Ms. Mort's blogs.</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Unhinged by Todd Gitlin</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I do support Sen. Obama because he and Joe Biden--one of Israel's strongest supporters in Congress for decades-- are damn good for America, and because it's very much in America's best interests that Israel be strong and secure. Only an Israel that is so will be willing to take the calculated risks for peace that a two-state solution demands. Bill Clinton and former Amb. Dennis Ross (Obama's chief advisor on I-P issues) got that. Almost all liberal Democratic elected officials get that. What's your problem?</p>

<p>Oh, of course, they only "get it" because they're  abject hypocrites afraid of losing campaign dough. Mr. Rosenberg, for the last time: name ONE liberal Democratic Congressman or Senator whose support for AIPAC's positions is insincere and motivated solely out of fear of losing campaign contributions. You have never done it, and you won't now because you can't</p>

<p>Now what exactly am I deluded about?</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Unhinged by Todd Gitlin</title>
		        
			<published>2008-11-01T16:41:18Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Mr. Gitlin, I support Obama--because I am confident he won't listen to idiots like Rosenberg and Levy-- and I very much hope that the level of Jewish voter support is indeed as high as 74%. </p>

<p>Still, I have to be sceptical of that figure from Gallup's recent poll, only because I am not at all certain that Orthodox Jews--from whom McCain gets the most support--respond to polls to the same extent as non-orthodox Jews, especially as to phone surveys on Friday nights and Saturdays. I haven't seen any pieces by professional pollsters on this, but I would be very suprised if Orthodox and Hasidic Jews, who historically have had extremely high rates of voting, participate in polls and surveys in the same proportion as non-Orthodox and non-Hasidic Jews.</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Unhinged by Todd Gitlin</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Not a chance. Last night I communed on Broadway with Billy Eliott, his father, his brother  his dead mother, his pouf friend Michael and his village. None of them were deluded about real world events like you are.</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Rashid Khalidi Controversy by Jo-Ann Mort</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>You are one sick puppy, self-hater. You don't belong in Judaism or in American politics. Go to Ramallah, you fucking dog. Neither you nor anyone who thinks like you will have any say in an Obama Administration, thank G-d.</p>]]>
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		    <title>apacmember Commented on Do They Think Jews Are Disloyal Or Just Racist? by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
			<published>2008-11-01T13:53:27Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I would welcome statements by AIPAC, ADL, AJ Congress and AJ Committee one by or the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations that Khaladi is not a supporter of terroris and that Obama was not wrong to have him as a friend,  but that Khaladi is plainly wrong in his views on the best way to achieve an enduring peace, and that the organization accepts Obama's staement that Khaladi will have no role in setting U.S. policy in an Obama administration.<br />
None of those wished-for statements will happen, alas, so Sen. Obama neeeds to emphasize every hour between now and Tuesday the last two points, as well as the fact that the group of which McCain was chair gave over half a illion dollars to Khaladi's groups.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>All the more reason for President Obama to use Bill Clinton and former Ambassador Dennis Ross to work towards an enduring two-state solution which the Saudis and Egyptians make Hamas obey, and for President Obama to squeeze the Iranian wackos as hard as he can economically so that sensible Iranians can take over.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>People who accuse AIPAC of having a sick mentality are just abject Jew-haters. I thank Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Jerry Nadler, Nita Lowey, Barbara Mikulsky, and over two hundred Democratic liberal supporters of AIPAC's positions for showing you to be a jerk.</p>]]>
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