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Week of February 1, 2009 - February 7, 2009

On the Lack of Engagement of Invited Book Club Contributors


Some good comments in the book club discussion this week on Andrew Bacevich's book, both by invited contributors and cafe denizens.  

It could be so much better if Michael Klare, Bacevich, and others would engage with us riffraff.  Evidently they can't be bothered. 

I've been at this place for awhile and a couple of years ago some of the denizens were, I thought, obnoxious to many of the invited contributors.  It left me at least somewhat sympathetic towards those who opted not to engage.  Anne-Marie Slaughter, I recall, took a heap of abuse, yet to her great credit she did engage frequently and civilly, with a degree of equanimity and class I suspect few of us in her position likely would have been able to muster.  Ikenberry rarely if ever replied to comments or questions.  Daalder--infrequently--and he treated very poorly by some.  Michael Lind would sometimes give at least as good as he got where he took umbrage. Lindsay I thought could at times be just as obnoxious as some of the disrespectful denizens.  Steve Clemons was, and is, a gentleman through and through, a class act. 

I don't see any nastiness coming from denizens in book club threads this week, nor lately in book club discussions.  So I am considerably less sympathetic than I once was to the invited contributors who do not engage, which frankly is most of them. 

I get the sense that the folks invited to contribute think of the folks who frequent this site as spectators at a sporting event--permitted to watch and listen in on the "real" action, but not as citizens who might possibly have a worthwhile thought or question worth their time.   

Maybe some time back we cafe denizens got a collective rep for too much bad behavior that at one time may have been justified but no longer seems to be, but that we're having trouble shaking.    

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  • Location northern Virginia
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  • Politics idealist without illusions (what I work towards, at any rate, it being in the nature of illusions that one does not generally know when one has one)

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  • Favorite Books A few that come to mind are Walking with the Wind, John Lewis (perhaps my top living "famous person" hero); Hitler's Thirty Days to Power, Henry Ashby Turner; Cincinnatus, Garry Wills (on George Washington and the ethical exercise of power); Everything for Sale, Robert Kuttner (on the uses and limitations of markets, best single book on economic policy I have read); Animal Farm and other works by George Orwell; A Hope in the Unseen, Ron Suskind; The Irony of American History, Reinhold Niebuhr; Robert Kennedy In His Own Words: Unpublished Recollections of the Kennedy Years, eds. Edwin O. Guthman and Jeffrey Shulman; RFK: A Memoir, by Jack Newfield; Lincoln's Melancholy, Joshua Wolf Shenk.
  • Favorite Quotes (lately; it changes) "Two pins shared a balloon. Watch out, said one of them, I'm going to prick a hole in *your* half." Tor Age Bringsvaerd, courtesy website of Thomas Hylland Eriksen

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