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The real meaning behind Uncle Barney Frank comments of Palin


This is a question that Josh Marshall asked at the main TPM web site.
 
First, the idea that government is working as a nanny state making all our decisions. This is a standard conservative argument. I do not have a problem with it. Here is an excerpt of what Palin said yesterday about "Uncle Barmey Frank" yesterday
 
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/governor-palin-talking-about-congressman-barney-frank-and-the-wardrobe-controversy/
 
That philosophy of government taking more, which is a misuse of the power to tax. It leads to government moving into the role of taking care of you and government and politicians and kind of moving in as the other half of your family to make decisions for you. Now they do this in other countries where the people are not free. Government as part of the family, taking care of us, making decisions for us. I don't know what to think of having in my family Uncle Barney Frank or others to make decisions for me. I and John McCain tend to want to trust the American people with their income, their businesses, their things. With a pro-tax, bigger government mentality, and that's what you would get if we had unchecked powers there in congress and the white house, if liberal leaning, bigger government persons were in charge of the house, the senate and heaven forbid the white house too.
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The Uncle Barney Frank rhetoric works on a subtle and more disgusting level.
 
 Barney Frank is a high profile Gay Democratic Congressman. In cases of child molesting, the term funny uncle is a derogatory term for a family member who molests children. Conservatives believes gays are predatory child molesters and what better way to make that point than to make gay Congressman Barney Frank the uncle. That is why you do not hear Aunt Nancy Pelosi or Uncle Harry Reid. They are not gay and the dog whistle politics of Democrats as child molesters would not work.
 
That is why it is Uncle Barney Frank. It is an added bonus that Frank was a major part of the bailout plan. You can keep it as a nanny state reference to the national media while using the funny uncle subtext of gays as child molesters to appeal to the homophobic GOP base. It is the same as  Britney Spears and Paris Hilton ad references that was a dog whistle toward the Southern base that Obama likes young blonde white women while claiming to the national media it was about Obama being a celebrity.
 
 
 

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Or you could look at it with a slightly different point of view, "Uncle Vanya"-style:

...here comes that Soviet "communal" style of life where you and your comrades work at factories run by the government and eat government-grown potatoes and government-baked bread bought from government-run stores where you stood in long lines to buy rough Soviet toilet paper, and even rougher potato vodka that burns goes down, but numbs the mind just enough, and the government tells you what to do and think and buy and study. You have your good Soviet, politburo joining, card carrying, crazy, banned poetry-spouting, Uncle Barney "communizing" everything he touches. He worse than a socialist. He's a commie. A "neo-com"...

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Stalin was referred to as "Uncle Joe" by FDR. And that was done in a tone of friendliness...!

We can also bring up "Uncle Tom" or "Uncle Ben" and claim it was a racist comment.

Seriously: this is getting a bit much to parse words like that. Let's not forget how everyone said "lipstick on a pig" wasn't in reference to Palin -- which is wasn't. "Uncle" can simply give you a nice little condescending reference of an unwanted, intrusive government without being "about" anything.

Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe.

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And often a bigot is simply a bigot.

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And sometimes you just get lucky with your innuendo. I heard about Uncle Barney the socialist, and I thought of Uncle Joe.

But my Obama-hates-America friend heard Uncle Barney and thought of Catholic Priests. Go figure

Sometimes a ICBM is just an nuclear tipped missile, but Freud had a vivid and predictable imagination so it's not to tough to imagine what he would think of when he saw it.

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I immediately remembered that Joe Stalin was referred to as "Uncle Joe", not just by FDR, but widely in the press.
Given the most recent "socialist" mud throwing that Palin's been doing, I believe that "Uncle Barney Frank" was an attempt to make the connection of Frank to socialism/communism. Not so effective... it was WAAAAAYY over the heads of the knuckle draggers in the crowd who wouldn't know Stalin if he showed up on the platform next to Palin.

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Don't forget this connection. Barney is cartoon character for children. A purple dinosaur that kids flock to. I've thought the "uncle" barney comment had undertones of gay (in the purple) and pedophilia in the cartoon character kids love. No matter how you look at it, the republicans are using innuendo and smears in more and more subliminal ways. Very distressing.

Thanks for your blog!

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It's also what Pebbles called Bam-Bam's father.

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Right, "clearthinker" -- jump in and defend the Republican on a non-Republican website, and claim yet again that it's about "balance" and "objectivity.

How much hateful bigotry must come out of Palin's mouth before you cease the efforts to distract, to change the subject, to paint the unutterably disgusting as innocuous?

When, in other words, will you get honest and admit you're only purpose here is to defend Republican slugs and their indefensible sewerage?

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If your view of the world is that everything out of a Republican's mouth is a lie, I hope you weren't happy about the Chris Buckley or Colin Powell's endorsements of Obama.

You are the one spouting the very scary lines: dogmatically linked to labels. Much of the Red Scare in the 1950s came from people just like you. Hysterical, dogmatic, and pure ideological.

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I don't recall Pebbles speaking, more cooing.

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Teenage years...

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Maybe Palin is referring to this from Earl Henry Sholley , a Republican running for Congress.

In the linked article, he says:

Some people refer to Uncle Sam as Uncle Sugar. Now the American People have a new uncle. It's Uncle Barney - the Affordable Housing Sugar Daddy. Standards were lowered to meet the new government mandates to end alleged racism and redlining under the Community Reinvestment Act. Initially, we had good standards. Then it went to less than 20% down, nothing down, no verification of income, a big increase in subprime mortgages, illegal immigrants please apply, unemployment benefits, food stamps, and welfare benefits as proof of income. They were called NINJA Loans - No Income, No Job, and No Assets. This all helped to inflate the Real Estate bubble. It became an elaborate Ponzi Scheme. The rigid and obtuse Barney Frank and his fellow Democrats looked the other way.

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The problem wasn't the Community Reinvestment Act. It was the lack of parallel regulation ensuring that the lenders wouldn't be constrained within reason and honesty.

And that was NOT the fault of Democrats, who are pro-regulation.

This Earl Henry Sholley is using the rhetoric of white supremacists -- so I'm going to assume he is that far-right extreme America-hating lunatic fringe.

Go ahed, "clearthinker": tell us all how we're wrong and he's a nice guy without a racist bone in his body.

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Er, I am not "clearthinker". The name is moat.
I posted the text because I believe it may be where Palin picked up the Uncle thing. If you read the link I provide, Mr. Sholley's views are in evidence.

While I don't share Sholley's view that the tail can be completely attached to the Democratic Donkey, they are not without sin. In any case, the matter is in the middle of the tug of war between the campaigns. The Republicans point to efforts made to tighten up standards for Fanny Mae in 2005. Obama wrote a letter about it to the Treasury Secretary in 2007.

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Oh, did she pick up on this from one of the many newspapers she reads? What is the point of remotely imagining that this ignorant bitch draws upon anything except knuckle dragging bigotry? She doesn't have the first fucking sense of any of the contexts you're speculating about on this string. She knows nothing.

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Iceberg,
You seem to be under the impression that Palin writes all her own speeches.

Your panegyric embraces a logical conundrum:
If Palin is as clueless as you say (and she hasn't shown a lot of reasons to argue otherwise), then she isn't the one authoring these sort of speeches. If she is conscious of the nuance of the dog whistle as you claim, then she is smarter than she looks.

I can see how the use of the word Uncle can have a lot of associations but I don't see why that element is grounds for not taking this comment of Palin as part of the broader tactic of the
GOP to color Obama as a socialist.

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I also, immediately, thought that the reference was to Barney Frank's sexuality and the Right Wing's disgusting insistence that gay equals pedophile. Everyone knows the "funny uncle" phrase, but only the Republicans believe that gay men are pedophiles.

I do not think that pointing this out is 'word parsing.' Palin said "Uncle Barney" and it was clearly a coded, Right Wing, dog whistle phrase. The Republicans work very hard on their dog whistling; the crap that they say is not by mistake.

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fag bashing. plain and simple

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in every possible way

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Let's just be clear that Barney Frank understood what was happening in the current financial crisis better than any of the republicans in the Congress and to the benefit of all Americans pushed Paulson to adopt a much more sensible plan. ON policy Frank is right.

The conclusion is that Palin is guaranteeing us that they would follow the Bush administration's practice of putting politics, prejudice and ideological purity before policy. No doubt with the same expected results.

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Barney Frank fits in many categories, but most Americans, if they know him, know him as the Democratic face of the government bailout. So we have Barney Frank replacing Uncle Sam as the person responsible for this very unpopular bailout.

Lipstick on a pig is not sexist, but in context suspicious people can see it that way. The same might possibly be true about homophobia and Uncle. I have a gay son and a gay sister (one of those who sued New York State some time ago to advocate for gay marriage), and I have listened to their plaints for decades. I have never heard of Uncle XXX being used to describe a pedophile. That one passed right over my head.

If this smear is so subtle to me, a political junkie, it won't work and, as well, is probably not a smear.

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Thanks for injecting a well-reasoned point of view!

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Bullshit. It's lowlife dog whistling.

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I agree the "uncle" was used primarily to refer to Uncle Sam. But the genius of the way these people work is that they get the side benefit of reminding the bigots in their base about Barney the allegedly gay pedophile dinosaur and the "funny uncle."

I wouldn't have made the funny uncle connection myself, but then I don't hang out with anti-gay bigots and I imagine you don't either. You and I aren't the dogs they're whistling to.

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This despicable bitch...I disagree that this is primarily to refer to Uncle Sam. She's so fucking ignorant, she wouldn't know the first goddam thing about gays, and lacks utterly the capacity to put their issues in context. She just swallows whole the regurgitation that's placed in her mouth. Fuck her.

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But how do you really feel?

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I think you're all wrong. It is a reference to "Uncle Barney" [Fife], the bumbling, totally incompetent, unworthy of anyone's respect, deputy in the Andy Griffith Mayberry shows, played by everyone's favorite Nobody, Don Knotts--nice guy, but would you REALLY want him to be in charge of anything?


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Well played. The whistled introduction music adds flavor.

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Where's worthlesscitizen when you need him?!?

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Palin says she doesn't want government making decisions for us and that she and McCain "tend to want to trust the American people with their income, their businesses, their things." What she neglects to mention, however, is that she and McCain don't trust the American people with decisions about their wombs or their choice of marriage partners.

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Clearly it's a reference to "The Man from U.N.C.L.E":

The show revolved around a fictional secret international law-enforcement agencyThe Man from U.N.C.L.E.

So Uncle Barney Frank, the Jewish Chair of the House Financial Services Committee, is part of a secret, international organization.

Hmmmmmm.

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Republicans have used the name Barney Frank as a bogey man symbol of gays and liberalism for a long time now.

One GOP direct mail company (BMW Direct) rips off unsuspecting GOP candidates and its conservative donors base by luring idiots into Don Quixote campaigns against liberal Democrats. BMW Direct fleeces the pigeon candidate of 97% of the money they raise while the conservative donor base is fooled into believing they are giving money to a legitimate challenger instead of a patsy. You can bet Uncle Barney Frank has been used as a fund raising tool for the GOP by more than just BMW Direct.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/29/firm_gets_big_cut_of_campaign_donations/?page=1

Charles A. Morse, a conservative Republican gadfly from Brookline, ran a brief write-in campaign to unseat US Representative Barney Frank in 2006. It fizzled completely when he received just 145 votes in a primary and dropped out two months before the general election.

"I never saw him," Frank said when asked about Morse's presence in the campaign.

Yet the political fund-raising firm that ran Morse's campaign finances reported that it raised more than $700,000 for his race, much of it from GOP contributors across the country eager to help defeat a Massachusetts liberal - and some of it donated well after Morse abandoned the race.

A review of campaign reports shows that, rather than spending that money in the Fourth Congressional District, 96 percent of the funds raised in Morse's name were used to pay a politically connected direct-mail firm in Washington, BMW Direct Inc., and a coterie of BMW Direct's affiliates and contractors. The firms specialize in national fund-raising appeals on behalf of conservative Republican candidates and right-wing causes.

The pattern in the Morse campaign of raising big sums from donors yet spending little on that campaign is similar to other fund-raising operations managed by BMW Direct, a private company whose financial statements and executive salaries are not disclosed. The list includes work for Republican Ken Chase's failed 2006 challenge of Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, a 2006 congressional candidate in Georgia, and on behalf of Veterans for Victory, a group that sought to raise questions in similar fashion to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth about John F. Kerry's war record when the Massachusetts senator was running for president.

Ultimately, Federal Elections Commission records show, $30,000 was devoted directly to Morse's campaign expenses in the Fourth Congressional District. And Morse said he was shocked when told by the Globe how much BMW Direct had raised and spent in the name of his candidacy.

"That is craziness," he said. "I am really amazed. It is really way above and beyond what I was made aware of."

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