Bashing Hillary, fairly or unfairly, is both unnecessary and increasingly beside the point. 

I think most of us are well aware by  now that you and other members of the community think she's disingenuous and cynical and that she should drop out.  I'm not disagreeing with any of those things, but can't we come up with other things to talk about?

Just sayin'.

Since it's one of the new conversations, I thought folks might enjoy hashing it out in a thread. So many things to discuss: persuasive Webb backlash, discussion of short-term and long-term trade-offs, a whole series of profiles in the reader blogs.

What are you thinking? And don't just give a name, make a case for a candidate or a criteria for making the decision.