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I AM Henry Louis Gates Jr.
My commentary on race relations post "Gates-Gate" is legitimized by having once been arrested, at gunpoint, under almost the exact same circumstances as those surrounding the famous professor. More on that later.
First, in the wake of the Cambridge hullabaloo involving Henry Louis Gates Jr., the Cambridge police department, and President Barack Obama, the nation's baby boomer press has dived headlong (again) into the debate they most love to hate: race.
Make no mistake about it, they love this debate. Remember when all discussion of Obama's nascent presidential candidacy was, embarrassingly, always prefaced with his racial pedigree? ("I heard his mother was white..."). Or how the month long controversy our African American Attorney General, Eric Holder, sparked when he pointedly called out Americans for too often being "cowards" about race?
Or what about the complete lack of controversy surrounding the Republican Vice Presidential Nominee's then-soon-to-be-son-in-law Levi Johnson's myspace page, which read "I'm a fuckin' redneck who likes to hang out with the boys...shoot some shit. Ya fuck with me I'll kick ass"? Very few people cared to describe just how thoroughly the press would loose their collective shit if Barack Obama's girls were of age and in a relationship with an African American teenager who described himself with even half the aggression of the Alaskan hockey stud.
But make no mistake about it, they also hate this debate. How else could you describe the infantile standards of our race discussions, even, or especially, among the elite? We all got a taste of this during the Sotomayor confirmation hearings from GOP Senator Jeff Sessions. As CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin argued on air "What's worth noting about what Jeff Sessions -- the line of questioning, was that being a white man, that's normal. Everybody else has biases and prejudices ... but the white man, they don't have any ethnicity, they don't have any gender, they're just like the normal folks, and I thought that was a little jarring."
Indeed, that is jarring, but Sotomayor herself reinforced the exact same sentiment in her now famous "wise Latina" speech. The issue with the speech can be broken into three parts. First, Sotomayor proclaimed her superior intellectual mettle. Second, she credited this superiority to her race. Third, she did not explain this association vis-a-vis all races, genders, or generations, but with enormous specificity to white men. Thus the stupidity of the Senator from Alabama extends all the way to a Berkeley graduation ceremony. Holder had it wrong. We're not a nation of cowards, we're a nation of idiots.
Or perhaps we're a nation of stark generational divides. From the perspective of a Millennial, this much seems pretty cut-and-dry: Generally speaking, our grandparents were born into an overtly racist society and, like all generations before them, they more-or-less accepted it. Our parents, the baby boomers, we're raised into this overtly racist society. However, unlike our grandparents, they saw it as unjust and they actively supported political movements to fix it, in numbers that their parents did not. However, having been raised in the racist society, the depth of this commitment among white baby boomers varied greatly, and some were just as passionate about continuing segregation as others were about passing the Civil Rights Act. The civil rights struggle that ensued brought all these emotions to the fore, sometimes violently so, scarring all those who took part with memories for a lifetime.
Which brings us to today, where the children of these baby boomers were essentially raised to believe that racism was wrong, even in the cases of parents who were unable to completely shake elements from their racist past. This generation's perspective on race did not have to be transformed by social movement; we could all recognize equality as a no-brainer even as we acknowledged that, as a nation, were not there yet.
This generation's liberalized attitude towards race was further promoted by a consortium of economic and technological factors beyond the control of themselves or their parents. First, arts and entertainment was democratized and internationalized. This generation's hit music is now as likely to come from a British Sri Lankan as it is a homegrown guitar hero, and the Best Picture award as likely to go to an Indian film as it is to Spielberg. Second, immigration has ensured that social circles in this generation would be almost impossible without some level of diversity. And third, this generation was raised with technology that allowed cultural intercourse in ways previously unimaginable.
While Senator Sessions (62), Sonia Sotomayor (55), Henry Louis Gates (58), Sergeant James Crowley (42), and the rest of the mainstream media continue to reference the time-capsule that is their shared experience of the 1960's and 1970's in regards to contemporary race discussions, I find myself utterly bewildered.
I haven't read the arrest report, nor do I intend to. I haven't interviewed Gates, or Sergeant Crowley, nor do I intend to (nor do I pretend I could if I wanted to, I don't have that many followers). So, while I can't offer much insight on the specifics of Gates-Gate, I can tell you about an incident that occurred when I was a scrawny 16 year old. One that bears striking similarities to the case of Henry Louis Gates Jr., except, of course, that I am blaring white.
It's early July, 2000, on a weekend. I am 16 years old. My best friend and I are returning from a successful day the beach (by successful I mean what any 16 year old boy means: tasty waves and new phone numbers). We had planned to meet up with some girls from the beach to go see a movie later that night. On our way to the theater, I made a fateful decision to stop by my mom's house to reply to nature's call. She, however, was not home and I, unfortunately, had forgotten my set of keys.
So I did what you do in these situations: I broke in.
I popped out the screen from the living room window, slid the glass open, hopped in, then unlocked the door to let my buddy in. I used the bathroom, washed my hands, and made a phone call. As we leave, we gently closed the window, replaced the screen, and locked the door behind us. All told, the maneuver took 8 minutes, tops.
We scurried across the hall and turned to descend the staircase back towards the parking lot, eager to meet the girls at the theater on time (my memory has fogged a bit, but I'm pretty sure we were describing our ultimate hopes for the evening in rather lurid detail, and at a rather high decibel). Halfway down the stairwell we were confronted: three squad cars and no fewer than six officers, guns drawn, standing between us and my best friend's forest green Camero (its true), like Frodo between Gollum and the tortuous ecstasy of the Ring.
"Freeze! Get your hands up!"
A moment of panic ensued, as both my buddy and I were under the sudden belief that the day's lovely progression had gone far enough, and that fate was determined to stonewall our hormones even if it meant dropping us into the middle of a gun fight between San Luis Obispo's finest and whatever manner of criminal must have been at our rear to warrant the current situation. With hands in the air, I glanced behind me to find the armed man. Nothing.
"I'm talking to YOU motherfucker! On the ground!"
Within moments we were hand-cuffed and face-down on a grimy parking lot at my mom's shitty apartment complex, boots at our backs, guns at our heads.
"Is anyone else in the building?!"
"No officer. This is a some sort of mistake. That's my m--"
"I repeat: Is there anyone else in the building?!"
"No. It's my mom's house. I was just using the bathroom".
"Because if we go in there and find someone else..."
Of course, nobody was in the house. They came back down, chatted some stuff over the transmitter, asked us a few questions, and then let us go. But not before my buddy, like Professor Gates, asked for an apology. First, we got a scowl. Then, like Gates, an abrupt "no".
First, in the wake of the Cambridge hullabaloo involving Henry Louis Gates Jr., the Cambridge police department, and President Barack Obama, the nation's baby boomer press has dived headlong (again) into the debate they most love to hate: race.
Make no mistake about it, they love this debate. Remember when all discussion of Obama's nascent presidential candidacy was, embarrassingly, always prefaced with his racial pedigree? ("I heard his mother was white..."). Or how the month long controversy our African American Attorney General, Eric Holder, sparked when he pointedly called out Americans for too often being "cowards" about race?
Or what about the complete lack of controversy surrounding the Republican Vice Presidential Nominee's then-soon-to-be-son-in-law Levi Johnson's myspace page, which read "I'm a fuckin' redneck who likes to hang out with the boys...shoot some shit. Ya fuck with me I'll kick ass"? Very few people cared to describe just how thoroughly the press would loose their collective shit if Barack Obama's girls were of age and in a relationship with an African American teenager who described himself with even half the aggression of the Alaskan hockey stud.
But make no mistake about it, they also hate this debate. How else could you describe the infantile standards of our race discussions, even, or especially, among the elite? We all got a taste of this during the Sotomayor confirmation hearings from GOP Senator Jeff Sessions. As CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin argued on air "What's worth noting about what Jeff Sessions -- the line of questioning, was that being a white man, that's normal. Everybody else has biases and prejudices ... but the white man, they don't have any ethnicity, they don't have any gender, they're just like the normal folks, and I thought that was a little jarring."
Indeed, that is jarring, but Sotomayor herself reinforced the exact same sentiment in her now famous "wise Latina" speech. The issue with the speech can be broken into three parts. First, Sotomayor proclaimed her superior intellectual mettle. Second, she credited this superiority to her race. Third, she did not explain this association vis-a-vis all races, genders, or generations, but with enormous specificity to white men. Thus the stupidity of the Senator from Alabama extends all the way to a Berkeley graduation ceremony. Holder had it wrong. We're not a nation of cowards, we're a nation of idiots.
Or perhaps we're a nation of stark generational divides. From the perspective of a Millennial, this much seems pretty cut-and-dry: Generally speaking, our grandparents were born into an overtly racist society and, like all generations before them, they more-or-less accepted it. Our parents, the baby boomers, we're raised into this overtly racist society. However, unlike our grandparents, they saw it as unjust and they actively supported political movements to fix it, in numbers that their parents did not. However, having been raised in the racist society, the depth of this commitment among white baby boomers varied greatly, and some were just as passionate about continuing segregation as others were about passing the Civil Rights Act. The civil rights struggle that ensued brought all these emotions to the fore, sometimes violently so, scarring all those who took part with memories for a lifetime.
Which brings us to today, where the children of these baby boomers were essentially raised to believe that racism was wrong, even in the cases of parents who were unable to completely shake elements from their racist past. This generation's perspective on race did not have to be transformed by social movement; we could all recognize equality as a no-brainer even as we acknowledged that, as a nation, were not there yet.
This generation's liberalized attitude towards race was further promoted by a consortium of economic and technological factors beyond the control of themselves or their parents. First, arts and entertainment was democratized and internationalized. This generation's hit music is now as likely to come from a British Sri Lankan as it is a homegrown guitar hero, and the Best Picture award as likely to go to an Indian film as it is to Spielberg. Second, immigration has ensured that social circles in this generation would be almost impossible without some level of diversity. And third, this generation was raised with technology that allowed cultural intercourse in ways previously unimaginable.
While Senator Sessions (62), Sonia Sotomayor (55), Henry Louis Gates (58), Sergeant James Crowley (42), and the rest of the mainstream media continue to reference the time-capsule that is their shared experience of the 1960's and 1970's in regards to contemporary race discussions, I find myself utterly bewildered.
I haven't read the arrest report, nor do I intend to. I haven't interviewed Gates, or Sergeant Crowley, nor do I intend to (nor do I pretend I could if I wanted to, I don't have that many followers). So, while I can't offer much insight on the specifics of Gates-Gate, I can tell you about an incident that occurred when I was a scrawny 16 year old. One that bears striking similarities to the case of Henry Louis Gates Jr., except, of course, that I am blaring white.
It's early July, 2000, on a weekend. I am 16 years old. My best friend and I are returning from a successful day the beach (by successful I mean what any 16 year old boy means: tasty waves and new phone numbers). We had planned to meet up with some girls from the beach to go see a movie later that night. On our way to the theater, I made a fateful decision to stop by my mom's house to reply to nature's call. She, however, was not home and I, unfortunately, had forgotten my set of keys.
So I did what you do in these situations: I broke in.
I popped out the screen from the living room window, slid the glass open, hopped in, then unlocked the door to let my buddy in. I used the bathroom, washed my hands, and made a phone call. As we leave, we gently closed the window, replaced the screen, and locked the door behind us. All told, the maneuver took 8 minutes, tops.
We scurried across the hall and turned to descend the staircase back towards the parking lot, eager to meet the girls at the theater on time (my memory has fogged a bit, but I'm pretty sure we were describing our ultimate hopes for the evening in rather lurid detail, and at a rather high decibel). Halfway down the stairwell we were confronted: three squad cars and no fewer than six officers, guns drawn, standing between us and my best friend's forest green Camero (its true), like Frodo between Gollum and the tortuous ecstasy of the Ring.
"Freeze! Get your hands up!"
A moment of panic ensued, as both my buddy and I were under the sudden belief that the day's lovely progression had gone far enough, and that fate was determined to stonewall our hormones even if it meant dropping us into the middle of a gun fight between San Luis Obispo's finest and whatever manner of criminal must have been at our rear to warrant the current situation. With hands in the air, I glanced behind me to find the armed man. Nothing.
"I'm talking to YOU motherfucker! On the ground!"
Within moments we were hand-cuffed and face-down on a grimy parking lot at my mom's shitty apartment complex, boots at our backs, guns at our heads.
"Is anyone else in the building?!"
"No officer. This is a some sort of mistake. That's my m--"
"I repeat: Is there anyone else in the building?!"
"No. It's my mom's house. I was just using the bathroom".
"Because if we go in there and find someone else..."
Of course, nobody was in the house. They came back down, chatted some stuff over the transmitter, asked us a few questions, and then let us go. But not before my buddy, like Professor Gates, asked for an apology. First, we got a scowl. Then, like Gates, an abrupt "no".
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Thanks for this. You write well, BTW. Please continue to contribute.
ps: do all police refer to those they have come to call, "bad guys" as motherfuckers?
July 26, 2009 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
A good Sunday read.
July 26, 2009 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am with 1849 here. You are younger than my son but I recall experiences like this forty years ago. hahahaha
July 26, 2009 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I missed the part in the police report where Officer Crowley threw Gates on the ground, said freeze motherfucker, immediately handcuffed him and put a gun to his head etc. By Gates own statement, Officer Crowley asked him to step outside and provide identification. So you were NOT Henry Louis Gates. FYI.
July 26, 2009 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is there a blog mill somewhere where they are cranking these freeze motherfucker! stories out? 'Cause I wanna buy stock. Sales appear to be going through the roof.
Pretty soon I'm going to do a literary critique of them.
July 26, 2009 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Di you believe that overall police interactions between police and African-Americans are equivalent to interactions between police officers and Whites for similar offenses?
How many White NYC lawful citizens have been gunned down by 41 shots in a case of mistaken identity by NYC police officials?
Is there any reason that African-Americans might be slightly more weary of police officials than Whites?
July 26, 2009 10:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
First of all, this post is about a white guy, and yet you challenge me (not him) with questions about African Americans!
So here's a question for you, rmrd0000: How do you intellectually translate the white-guy story into African American experience? Because I am simply not imaginative enough to do that. To me, black and white experiences are separate and unequal, because white people are the privileged class in our society. I see no true translation other than a purely hypothetical one. So please, please, please explain to me how one white guy's experience has anything whatsoever to do with your question about the uniqueness of African American experience: Is there any reason that African-Americans might be slightly more weary of police officials than Whites? Your question does not make any sense to ask, and it has nothing to do with the original post.
Second, why must you automatically extrapolate to the general from the specific? I haven't done that. Personally, I am capable of holding the following thoughts in my head at the same time:
1) Racial profiling, police brutality, discriminatory treatment of minorities, and abuse of power toward all citizens are egregious, inexcusable problems that must be solved with ZERO TOLERANCE;
2) From what I know about the Crowley-Gates situation, James Crowley does not fit the profile of an abusive cop.
In other words, I can give Crowley the benefit of the doubt until I have information that actually proves he's a rogue cop, AND I can be fiercely unforgiving of any abuse of power by anyone, from cop all the way up to president.
Speaking of which, when is Barack Obama going to relinquish the executive powers that George W. Bush grabbed for himself while in office? Because nothing has changed on that front, yet I don't hear you squawking about it.
In any case, I actually VALUE the concept of innocent before proven guilty, and I have in fact applied it to both parties here, although I have been highly critical of Gates. Critical. Not smearing, critical.
Before I forget, here are the answers to your questions:
1) No.
2) I'm guessing zero.
3) Yes.
Why on earth are you assuming I would answer those questions any differently? Why must I hold a radical view about Crowley's behavior that I don't accept as the truth about him?
By the way, I really do want you to answer these questions. Thanks.
July 27, 2009 1:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think you'll be getting many answers soon.
Well said.
July 27, 2009 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Answered below
July 27, 2009 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, you didn't answer my questions at all. You just yammered about yourself. What a surprise.
July 27, 2009 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was posing questions to you because, I was interested in your position based on posts on prior blogs. I didn't consider it an attack. I was interested in your position to make sure that I understood you so that I wouldn't make false assumptions.
When you called me a schmuck, I responded to your charge in what I think was a civil manner. You have not responded in kind, but that's your problem not mine.
I wasn't addressing Covert, I was trying to get a better read on you. I did answer the question about executive powers in saying that Obama will be slow to give them up.
I really thought that I was addressing why I asked you those specific questions and responded to your question to me about Obama. Was that helpful? Or do you consider it to be more yammering?
Getting back to the Gates situation, it appears that Crowley may not have talked to the female witness as he stated in his report. If true, that would place questions around the veracity of the remainder of his police report. Hopefully this issue will be clarified in days to come.
July 27, 2009 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gasket you make me giggle :)
July 27, 2009 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
rtbag:
Step away from the Henry Louis Gates post. Put the keyboard down, and walk slowly away.
July 27, 2009 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
We should put up a couple of signs; DON'T FEED THE TROLLS and PUMA's PREFER FRESH MEAT.
July 27, 2009 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, this was intended for Adrian.
July 27, 2009 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Freudian slip.
July 27, 2009 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm so sorry Hillary lost.
July 27, 2009 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting.
July 27, 2009 11:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
RTB for many Whites the stories about an innocent person getting shot 41 times, a Black man being attacked in an NYC police station, etc fade into deep reaches of memory. For many Blacks it becomes rapidly retrieved memory as part of a survival skill. It likely colored Gates' reaction to Crowley. Gates probably heard a challenge to why he was on his own property. It's a theme that carries through in the birthers challenging a valid birth certificate in the case of Barack Obama. Blacks have to prove they are legitimate.
You are upset that I posed a question to you that was based on responses from you based on several posts that you make in several other posts at TPM.
Don Lemon covered the CNN reporting from Crowley's front yard. Lemon, an African-American, was the victim of profiling and had won a judgment against a police department. Yesterday, a Black female reporter who lived in Cambridge appeared on Reliable Sources and talked about the tension between the African-American community and the Boston and Cambridge police. The truth is that few minds are going to be changed. Responses on mostly African-American blog sites are from people who get why Gates was suspicious and pissed. Many have their own stories of interactions with police.
If I except the answers to your question, interactions between Blacks and law enforcement are going to have intermittent flare-ups. As long as the underlying unfairness in treatment is common knowledge and continues, law abiding Blacks will remain wary of law enforcement.
Regarding the imperial Presidency, I suspect that Obama will be as slow to give up many of them. However I did note in the case of the Uyghurs, that Obama faced opposition in releasing the men from Sen Webb of his own party. Incarcerating the Gitmo prisoners in maximum US prisons has also run into roadblocks within the US.
It's amusing that you are upset at me for asking you a question, then launch into an attack on Barack Obama.
July 27, 2009 7:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
No I'm not upset for the reason you suppose. You're not only wrong but disingenuous in your error. Your questions are not based on anything I have said. They are based on conflating what I have said with what other people have said, smothered with a generous smear of bias like the whipped cream on a big fat ice cream sundae.
You know nothing about me, including my race/skin color/ethnic heritage/upbringing/experiences with discrimination or what is in my head or heart. You have asked me not a single question about me personally to justify ANY of your assumptions.
Since you are so knowledgeable about New York, I will reveal one thing about me: I live in Bed-Stuy Brooklyn. For those who don't know The Stuy, no matter what my skin color, I could not live in this neighborhood and maintain that racial profiling doesn't exist!
Now, because you are so lazy in your interactions with me, 0000, I am done talking to you. I literally don't have time for your disrespect.
July 27, 2009 9:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry you feet that way. My question to you was mainly based on responses generated by you in posts put up by NCSteve and Rutabaga, respectively, several days ago.
The questions I posed were to get a glimpse into your thought process, so as not to make false assumptions. I assume that is why you asked me about an imperial Presidency under Obama.
I try to understand exactly where people are coming from. As I noted before, when I posted that the Constitution was a set of suggestions, I was attacked as having a view of the Constitution identical to that of Dick Cheney. As I told you, my larger point was that Japanese prison camps in the US, the Jim crow laws, and halting the Florida vote count were all Constitutional. I was not channeling Cheney, just pointing out things that were failures of the Constitution from my standpoint.
Given the misunderstanding that I experienced, I wanted to be certain that I understood your point of view correctly.
I asked questions to get a better feel for your views. Sorry that you got offended. Hopefully you looked at my answer to your question about Obama.
July 27, 2009 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Cambridge city manager, who is White, and the Cambridge mayor, who is Black, are announcing the formation of a committee to address racial tensions within the city.
The presser is being carried on CNN as of 12:00 PM EST.
July 27, 2009 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are White and Black gangs or sports teams or something?
July 27, 2009 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
The terms are commonly used for ethnic groups in the US. I used the designation since there is a racial component to the situation.
July 27, 2009 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
In discussions about this case participants have looked at the story and available evidence and then began speculating. We have speculated on what type of persons both Gates and Crowley are, our speculations based on what we have learned of them but also on our preconceived notions of what their life experiences probably did to shape the different ideas and expectations that each carried into the confrontation that shouldn't have been a confrontation to begin with. We all look at the case with our own biases. While the word usually carries a negative connotation, sometimes a bias aligns with reality.
Here are my conclusions. I find some ironic gallows sort of humor in the whole situation. I believe that Gates is a person who no doubt has felt the sting of prejudice and gone on to make a career of studying racial prejudice. He expected to find it everywhere and he looked for it everywhere with such zeal that he was successful in finding it everywhere and he was offended every time he saw it, but he didn't see it where it sat as a huge chip on his own shoulder. I expect that he interprets some things which happen to people of every race, though not as often to people of some races, as ALWAYS being the result of racial prejudice, when they happen to a black man, when in fact they may have resulted from any number of other sorts of prejudice other than racial prejudice. He probably sometimes thought he saw wrongful discrimination in cases where a decision was completely legitimate but if Gates looks for discrimination every were and always and then sees a black man come in second, then to Gates the black man must have been discriminated against.
I think Gates probably acted like a jerk in the way he spoke the cop in this particular case. I don't think that that is, or should be, against the law.
Gates expressed his feeling that "this is what happens to a black man in America" inside his own house and did so with anger. He is legally within his rights to do that. The ironic gallows humor, [I almost said black humor] is that when he concluded that Crowley is a racist and then publicly said so he quite likely slandered Crowley and put himself in real and correct legal jeopardy by actually breaking a statutory law. That, though, was after the fact and does not retroactively justify his arrest.
Crowley may be a racist but we don't have evidence that he is one and I would bet that he is not. That is not to say that he is completely bias free, none of us are, or that he does not have his own trigger points. A common trigger to set off a cop is to show disrespect for them or for their authority. Cops have a very stressful job but in recognizing that fact we should not then justify them incorrectly handling their stress. Crowley may have shown anger at being disrespected or he may have maintained a completely professional demeanor throughout the entire event but was still completely wrong even if he calmly and politely arrested Gates who, in my opinion, was not breaking the law. One of my biases is that a man's home is his castle and he can speak his mind there and anyone who doesn't like it can and should leave, especially a cop whose reason for being there is finished and it has become obvious that the homeowner is rightfully in his own GOD DAMNED HOME [as NC pointed out] and not about to harm anyone. If the cops presence was causing the anger and the cops legitimate purpose had been fulfilled, as it was, the cop should have simply kept walking. He could have gone back to the station and told his buddies how he had been forced to show a lot of restraint in dealing with a jerk that day.
One of my other biases is against automatically giving cops the benefit of the doubt. Cops are caught daily abusing their authority and the instances that become generally known are like cockroaches. If we see one we know there are hundreds.
The video posted by Rutabgga and accompanying article shows an example of how completely wrong and how far out of line a cop can get and how easily they usually get away with it. If the incident hadn't been captured on film and if a very brave person had not come forth as a witness the woman would have been found guilty as charged and the cop would likely never have been seriously questioned. As it is, he is still working as a cop when he should be confined in the jail.
The legal description of the law Gates was charged with breaking contains one word, which Crowley used, that is very rarely used in common speech, at least to my knowledge. That word is "tumultuous", a word that has a somewhat vague definition for a legal term and which can be very subjectively used to describe a situation.
We all know that as a matter of street smarts that we should not tell a cop no and we should not piss him off. Sometimes it is even smart to kiss his ass if are priority is to stay out of jail. The thing we "should" do to stay out of jail is not always what we should "have" to do. To determine that Crowley acted correctly in arresting Gates is to determine that it is and should be illegal to insult a cop while you are standing in your own living room.
A cop getting to arrest a person for being rude and obnoxious is no more justified than for a waitress to throw coffee on a rude customer, but it is more fundamentally wrong.
July 27, 2009 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're way too rational for the hyperventilating that's going on here.
July 27, 2009 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
lol
July 27, 2009 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whoa, some heat in here. I just wanted to relay an interesting story that happened to me.
July 27, 2009 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Things will cool down now that we know Gates lied on his police report. A cop lying on a police report, imagine that. Impeccable record, my ass.
July 27, 2009 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you mean Crowley lied on his police report?
July 27, 2009 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, he stated "the witness told him there were two black men". The witness said "she didn't talk to Crowley and never said anything about black men to anybody". On the dispatcher's tape the dispatcher said "race unknown".
July 27, 2009 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink