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Wisconsin undecideds

Went out canvassing in SmallTown, Wisconsin, again this evening -- and by the way, if everyone who reads TPM would spend an hour or two every day talking to people who *don't* already agree with them, maybe we'd be making even more progress...
There's been a palpable change in undecided voters' attitudes here. When I started canvassing a few weeks ago the people I spoke with were genuinely undecided. I had to really talk to them about the issues, do some gentle persuasion. 
Today every "undecided" was strongly supporting Obama (to the point of asking for yard signs) -- or leaning that way. The other canvassers this evening noticed the same thing.
I also get the sense that these people have made up their minds. They are done thinking about this, and they want an Obama yard sign. Done deal.
There's little McCain can do at this point to make them change their minds. Anything he pulls -- calling Obama a Muslim, dredging up Rev. Wright, whatever -- will just be seen as another stunt.
Voters' opinions are crystallizing right now, and they're leaning toward Obama. Get out and talk to your neighbors! It makes a difference! 


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I agree. Every time I see msm stating that Wisconsin is still up for grabs it floors me. I just don't see it or hear it. This is definitely Obama Country!!

Depends on where you are in Wisconsin, doesn't it?

This probably isn't relevant, but Florida was Rudy Country.

From a family member who went to the Obama rally in LaCrosse today:

...I got there too late to get a good spot. I did convince one guy standing on a lamp post base to get down and let the 10 or 12 year old girl in front of me get up there. I told him he was creating a politically engaged person for life. All in all, a nice, friendly crowd. Don't think that would have happened on the other side.

Sounds good to me.

One thing I left out of my blog about seeing Michelle Obama speak with my daughter today was that she said we need you to work, and work some more, and pray, and work harder, and then pray some more, and after that get to work.

I think that the Obama camp knows that it will take not just a win, but a win with an unquestionable margin of error to win this in spite of any voter supression/fraud etc., cheating, whatever we may encounter. There is no room to be complacent or slow down.

And I expect that the McCain camp is going to get nastier as the election gets closer... it will keep inventing things to distract or overwhelm.

I think if we want this bad enough we will win and I appreciate that your out there doing your part.

I see and feel the same thing. The "tipping point" has come and gone. Folks have joined this train. And it's stopping at every small town and big city... asking people to get on and be a part of history.

Once you reach a tipping point, it doesn't just happen with one person. It becomes like a wave that washes over society and people get caught up in it. They feel this sense that, yes, we're all in this together. And we're making history.

It's a beautiful sight. A wonderful feeling.

I hope you're right. I won't relax until Nov 5th.

Two weekends ago I was very encouraged to see the amount of Obama signs in rural Wisconsin. I didn't see one McCain sign. I did see my first McCain bumper sticker though. I couldn't begin to count the Obama stickers.

The amount of Obama signs in rural NW Wisconsin are similar to the amount of Bush/Cheney signs I saw in 2004. A change in the tide.

Anyone who will vote for McCain isn't very excited about it, definetly not proud, and are potentially, embarrassed to admit it IMHO. At least when it comes to NW Wisconsin.

Well, I guess there was that one guy with the McCain bumper sticker.

...first and ONLY McCain bumper sticker I've seen, I should add.

I'm starting to count more Obama signs, badges, hats and stickers too.

Yesterday, saw this long haired, hot guy coming out of the library with Obama sticker on his jacket lapel. Seeing the stickers and buttons everywhere.

And that is with the Obama campaign not putting getting signs and bumperstickers out a high priority.

It was always Obama's election to lose, because it started out as "anything but a Republican." I think those who are big Obama fans have a hard time concieving of someone who won't fall in lvoe with him. Well, lots of independents and swings are not like you, they won't fall in love with him. I think the key is not expecting them to love Obama, you gotta let go of that, not everyone is going to be crazy about him, but just selling it as a Dem vs. the party of Bush, and most importantly--not letting McCain get away with looking moderate, Independent or Democratic. I think the best bet with independents, swings and undecideds is making clear to them that McCain is not like them, that the "maverick" label comes from just a very few initiatives, and that he is most of all, a loyal Republican, rather than trying to convince them that Obama is like them. You shouldn't expect them to get all hepped up over "yes we can!" They're "independent," after all. :-)

Some specific suggestions: if they are religious social conservative, and think he is inauthentic on that point, point to his 2006 speech to the Call to Renewal conference:
http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060628-call_to_renewal/
and contrast McCain's pretty secular background.
If they are unsure because they think he is a flaming liberal using moderate sheep's clothing to get the presidency, use his admonishment to the DKos crowd from 2005:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/30/102745/165
or select similar points from "Audacity of Hope."

P.S. I have lots of relatives in Wisconsin and was born there and lived there until age 29 and traveled all over the state for my work--I understand. Good to hear they seem to be coming around to the usual common sense.

A revision to the use of "common sense" above. To me, the Wisconsin electorate usually goes along the lines of "nonpartisan common sense." Tis why they have fought in the past to keep open primaries. Not bi-partisan, nonpartisan. (Yeah sure, there were always some diehard Republican farmers, but they were never a majority to begin with, and are dying off.)

FISA hurt Obama with the Feingold base. I'm surprised they are going to forgive him.

Yeah, I think the Wisconsin Feingold base (as opposed to netroots fans of Feingold) could actually be described as more libertarian than liberal. So what you say would make sense. Like most voters, though, most of them probably don't pay attention to individual actions like that, they just express general preference, they trust someone like Feingold to represent their general interest, don't check on him all the time.

As a Wisconsin native myself, I find this very heartening. On a bike marathon through very rural Wisconsin two weeks ago, a friend of mine and I took a poll of the number of political signs we saw from the valley to Abbotsford.

Obama - 15
McCain - 10

Of course, it doesn't mean much, but one wouldn't think the folks in rural Wisconsin would have much in common with Obama. We were pleasantly surprised.

In phone banking for the Dem capmaign, I've found much more receptive folks to Obama, but still not what I would call a dent here in my conservative area. I continue to believe Milwaukee and Madison will help carry O like they did Kerry and Gore.

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I live in Spring Green, WI, 35 miles west of Madison. Our town is filled with Obama yard signs (including people I've never seen have a yard sign before). I've seen (maybe) two McCain signs here.

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Hi all,

Thanks for the comments and the recs. Went out canvassing again this evening and ran into quite a few people who were still undecided.

I can't tell you how much this personal contact seems to mean to people. At one point I remember talking to an older woman who said, "I just worry about the future..." and I put my hand on my heart and looked her in the eye and said something like, "I'm a mother. I have two little kids, and I want the best future for them. And I really truly believe Barack Obama's heart is in the right place and he has the best ideas to get us out of this mess."

She looked at me, just stood there looking at me. And then she said, "Yes, I'm beginning to think you're right..."

One more leaning toward Obama :-) If all of us have just one interaction like this every day between now and the election it *will* make a difference.

Get out and canvass!

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i'm still not sure how you can be undecided in this election.

@jk2003, I know it seems crazy but there are lots of undecided voters here!

I've found that about half of them are undecided because the presidential race just isn't important to them and they are totally uninformed.

The other half -- and maybe it's just a coincidence, but they seem to usually be older people -- seem to be pretty well-versed in the issues and the candidates' positions, but they can't seem to make up their minds as to which approach would work better. They're also trying to figure out which candidate is more trustworthy, more likely to actually follow through on campaign promises.

These people are really on the fence and I feel like we're making a huge difference going door-to-door. I don't know if McCain has any ground game going on here at all.

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