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Was mentioning Keating 5 a mistake? Please talk me off this ledge!
At first, I was thrilled that Obama was going to Keating 5. What I should have seen coming is what is now happening: The media, in its ridiculous pursuit of balance, is now able to say that "both sides" are running the dirtiest campaign in history, that "both sides" are dredging up the past. Thanks to the media, racist references to "radicals" in Obama's past (even one who was radical when Obama was 8) and McCain-Palin rallies that are becoming violent and resembling KKK conventions are now morally equivalent (which is to say no worse) to McCain verifiable involvement in the bilking of people's life savings in his very relevant crusade to end all government regulation of the financial sector.
Seriously, Barbara Walters sees no distinction between people calling for the murder of Barack Obama at Palin rallies and Obama talking about Keating 5. Is this happening? Talk me off this ledge, someone. Articleman, are you out there?
Yesterday was such a good day. Please tell me this tide is not turning!
Seriously, Barbara Walters sees no distinction between people calling for the murder of Barack Obama at Palin rallies and Obama talking about Keating 5. Is this happening? Talk me off this ledge, someone. Articleman, are you out there?
Yesterday was such a good day. Please tell me this tide is not turning!
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No. It wasn't a mistake. Now please come down off that ledge.
Obama had to call McCain's bluff. And this morning on CNN, they did their own investigation into the Keating Five scandal. Their conclusion was that Obama is telling the truth, and that while McCain was never convicted of a crime, he clearly got caught pushing the limits of the law.
This is a net positive for Obama, although I think he should go back to attacking Bush and the Republican Party, and tying McCain to the attacks through association.
October 7, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
That wasn't the conclusion of the Dem controlled Senate back then. He was absolved completely. So stop your lying.
October 7, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
What would you know? You're a goddamn halfwit Republican. Stick to thinks you know, like farting in your hand and smelling it.
October 7, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hate to disagree, but I think it was a mistake.
It establishes an equivalence between the two campaigns in tactics.
I like the high road and think Obama should stick to it and jerk that ad.
October 7, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I bet McCain is going to bring it up in the debate this evening......
Tactical and ethical mistake for the Obama campaign in my feelings.
October 7, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope he does bring it up this evening because his position is indefensible. It isn't about whether he was convicted, it's about his poor judgment. And on that question, he was thoroughly convicted--even by his own admission.
"The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do."
- John Sidney McCain
October 7, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to say, I was sickened by some of the media coverage yesterday--even MSNBC went out of its way to portray both sides' attacks as "even".
At the end of the day, I think the majority of Americans will be able to see through the nonsense. The Keating Five scandal is not about the fact that McCain was in a scandal; it is about McCain's stance on the economy and how his deregulatory stances were wrong then and are wrong now.
I don't see Obama doing any worse attacks in the future, and probably should stay above the fray. As far as the hate we've seen at McCain/Palin rallies? Well, I think that's just beginning. Clearly, McCain and Palin haven't denounced the hatred as of now, so they're likely content with a bit more.
October 7, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why couldn't some outside group have sponsored that Webisode? Then Obama would have clean hands. I guess that is what bums me out. That his hands are on this. He ceded ground. But I am coming off the ledge...
October 7, 2008 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Slowly . . . slowly . . . not THAT way . .
October 7, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
it was the right thing to do. Otherwise, right now, Obama would be questioned on how he could fight for us when he won't fight for himself. In addition, Keating gave the media a counter discussion to Ayers and Wright.
October 7, 2008 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
A counter? McCain was absolved of any wrongdoing. The lawyer for the Senate wanted to remove him and Glenn from the investigation entirely, because there was no case against them, but the Dem senate refused for political reasons. So, dems smear McCain in the past, and that then is used to smear him today. Classic. Meanwhile, Obama's connections to terrorists and racists like Ayres and Wright is swept under the rug.
October 7, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh dear, here we go again.
First thing's first: this McCain deal is not a "smear". It is the truth, and has been fact-checked. Unless someone gives me conclusive evidence about Ayers' and Wright's relationship as to how close they were to Obama, then it's not an issue. This stuff is old news and has been checked out months ago, yet the McCain campaign still wants to bring it up out of desperation.
Moreover, I think what is more important is that this shows McCain's dedication to deregulation, even if it wrecks the economy. He helped cost taxpayers $3.4 billion with the Keating S&L collapse, and you just want to ignore it?
October 7, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain WAS admonished for showing "poor judgment". On the main thing McCain claims to have over Obama, his judgment, the record shows he has badly faltered in the past. So, then, what exactly is the basis for McCain's claim of superior judgment?
October 7, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was the right thing to do. Period.
Further, aren't there laws against all of the hate speech? The repugnants are turning their rallies into hateful KKK episodes. I thought that trying to incite riots was against the law.
October 7, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink