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The Biggest Problem With The 2008 Election That No One Is Talking About.

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From todays NYT; It really doesn't matter who gets how many votes if the republicans are able to steal the election-AGAIN


October 9, 2008
Editorial
That’s a Pretty Big Glitch

Election officials, who will have plenty on their minds on Nov. 4, have one more thing to worry about: Diebold electronic voting machines that drop votes. Ohio’s secretary of state raised the alarm after local officials reported problems with the March primary count. Diebold has since notified more than 30 states to be on the lookout for missing votes.

In the early days of electronic voting, critics who warned that it was unreliable were dismissed as alarmist. Now it seems that hardly an election goes by without reports of serious vulnerabilities or malfunctions.

In the case of Diebold, votes are being dropped when they are transferred from individual machines to the central server in a county’s election headquarters. When an election worker inserts the memory card from a machine into the server, a green arrow is supposed to light up after all of the votes have been uploaded and added to the county’s totals. In some cases, the green arrow is wrong, and none of the votes have been added.

When election officials in Ohio’s Butler County first spotted the problem, Premier Election Solutions — a unit of Diebold — suggested that antivirus software on the voting machines or human error was at fault. That turned out not to be true; the fault was Diebold’s. In August, the company notified clients of the software glitch, advising election officials not to rely on the green arrow, but to use alternative methods of checking that every memory card — and every vote — is counted.

When dropped votes are noticed — and so far they appear to have been — they can be recovered. But the flaw is troubling, the latest in a long line of problems.

Computer scientists have shown that electronic voting machines are easy to hack. And voters report errors like vote flipping, in which the vote they cast for one candidate is recorded for another. Ohio’s secretary of state, Jennifer Brunner, is suing Diebold over the vote-dropping and noted that its machines crashed repeatedly during last year’s voting in Cuyahoga County.

There is no time left between now and Election Day for states and localities to upgrade their machines or even to fix the vote-dropping software. All they can do is double-check their vote totals, audit their paper trails and be on the lookout for the next, as-yet-undiscovered computer glitch. After that, Congress must require that all states adopt voting systems that include voter-verifiable paper records for every electronic vote cast.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/opinion/09thu2.html?ref=opinion&pagewanted=print


Comments (4)

NYT is talking, and Brad Friedman is always on it at his BradBlog. Then there is Greg Palast, always on the case. There are lawsuits in the works.

Don't forget, The Simpsons will show this occuring to Homer in an upcoming show.

More on related subject, vote suppression: GOP attempt in Montana rejected by Republican Sec State, but judge opens new waste orifice for state GOP in statements:
http://missoulian.com/articles/2008/10/09/news/local/news03.txt

I will post here again information about how 3 million votes were not counted in 2004. I don't know how many are tossed each election. I personally feel voters should be notified anytime their vote is not counted and told why...i.e. what happened.

RFK Jr.'s 'Is Your Vote Safe': http://www.truthout.org/article/rfk-jr-and-mike-papantonio-is-your-vote-safe

Greg Palast's 'Rove Has Already Fixed 2008 Election': http://www.truthout.org/video/greg-palast-rove-has-already-fixed-2008-election

www.stealbackyourvote.org a joint RFK Jr. and Palast effort

This is so very important on many levels. I wish we had more room at the top of the recommended list, because I'd like to see a regular or permanent thread on voter suppression and other voter issues, such as the Diebold atrocities.

This needs not only to be up front and in our minds, but really we need to have a plan if we find that on November 4th, with Obama leading by a landslide in the polls, somehow McCain wins. If that happens, we need a response. My first thought is a nationwide shutdown - everyone who voted for Obama goes on strike. We demand accountability and refuse to accept another stolen presidency.

I hope this will not happen - that McCain continues to tank and Obama continues to increase his lead until even all this utter disgrace of a democracy can get it right at last.

But I really don't want us, the people who do care about these things, to be caught unprepared. What is our response?

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