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A Special Place in Hell Indeed
As if campaigning in California wasn't funny enough, Sarah Palin decided to stick her chin way out and float this doozy yesterday, in my home state.
Of course, that's not quite what Ms. Albright said.
Thanks, Sarah, but we're one of two states in the union with two female Senators. You may also have noticed that Nancy Pelosi, the first female Speaker of the House in U.S. history, hails from California as well. We don't need your clumsy, insipid misquotes from Starbuck's cups to inform our electoral decisions. Nor do we need you tell us how to break the glass ceiling.
Perhaps Palin assumes that she can gain some ground here simply because California supported Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary, another example of why Californians don't need her suggections. Either way, we'll be happy to host her while she wastes her time and money in our fair state.
Comments (38)
You work really hard, DS. I love your avatar... or maybe it's really you?
October 5, 2008 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not me, it's this guy.
October 5, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure your choice says something about you, though. And a surfer with a fur hat. That must say something about you too.
Thanks for the info! I like the intrigue of your choice of person and photo!
October 6, 2008 8:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Daily tracking polls indicate that Hell is reserved for adventurers in evil like Idi Amin and William Tecumseh Sherman, while low-concept ideologues like Sarah Palin and shameless bullshitters like Barack Obama will be painlessly recycled in compost-limbo-heaps.
My in-house polls give me some hope of joining Idi and Bill in the Flaming Casino, mainly for constantly referring to Obamabots as scabby, drooling, penis-flapping crack pimps, but just a few weeks ago the same polls gave McCain a lead in the Electoral College...
So I may have to spend eternity playing baroque trios with St. Peter and the Virgin Mary after all.
October 6, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
And Mr. Lopez is also a Punahou School alumnus!
October 6, 2008 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know, I fell for the gorgeous avatar too. DF is still gorgeous, no matter what he looks like.
October 5, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Better still, Albright has apparently taken notice and responded:
"Well said" would seem to be an understatement here.
October 5, 2008 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's a place in hell for women who charge rape victims for their rape kits...is THAT supporting other women?
October 6, 2008 8:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ya know, (except, of course, it no longer seems okay to use a cliche like that -- Palin has made it seem so cliche!) that whole "pay for the rape kit" issue is really a big deal. You would think it would come up somewhere. Has anyone asked her about it, anywhere? WHY not? She basically demanded the support of women voters by quoting Albright, but here is evidence that she does not support the most fundamental of women's issues, the right to prosecute those who assault them, and somehow it just doesn't seem to be getting through.
Sorry, frustration rant.
October 6, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
It is weird to think of Palin campaigning in California. I can't imagine a place in this country that she is less likely to truly represent or support in any honest way. I would guess a McCain Palin presidency would do everything they possibly could to screw the people of California.
October 5, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is pretty weird, but California is a very large and diverse state. This is solid Obama country, but you see some McCain signs here and there in the more rural areas. One interesting thing about the GOP here is that Californians, for the most part, have no truck with their conservative social stances. This leaves the GOP with one key issue: taxes. That's basically their platform here. It's also part of the reason that we never get a state budget done on time. It's not simply the fault of the GOP, but they yield nothing on this issue. It's their touchstone.
October 5, 2008 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
DF, I wouldn't call CA "solid" Obama county, although I think it's safe to say our 55 votes are his.
CA gave the US two presidents: Nixon and Reagan and both were representatives of Orange County. Travel around OC and you will find it quite different in terms of lawn signs/bumper stickers than LA.
I'm betting that the CA map for McCain/Obama is similar to the CA map for Hillary/Obama:
Obama takes the SF and LA area (including Santa Barbara, but excluding OC) and
McCain takes all the rest. For fun sometime, drive 5 (the N-S main highway) and listen to the radio: except for pockets around SF and LA, you'd swear you were in the deep south (sans accents).
The good news is that most of the state's population resides in SF and LA.
People tend to forget that
a) CA has the worlds 7th largest economy and
b) The largest industry in CA is *agriculture* -- not aerospace, not high-tech, not movies.
In addition, Southern California has a large portion of the population which are of Mexican descent -- a huge fraction are very conservative. Of course, this same population also wants liberal immigration laws. Quite complex, isn't it? ;-)
I know you know all of this, but I figure some of these facts are useful for those TPM readers who tend to think they know CA. Once you live here, you find it's quite a bit different than the stereotypical images -- and this isn't an issue of nuance.
October 6, 2008 2:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely. What I meant when I said that it's solid is that he's got it locked up.
Couldn't agree more. I find that the impressions I encounter of California by those who've never been here, or spent little time here (perhaps a trip to tourist LA or the like), are frequently pretty ridiculous. California is one of the largest states, the most populous and the wealthiest. We have an incredibly diverse demographic composition. It ain't all surfboards and movie stars. In fact, based on my travels across the US I would say that California is a microcosm of the nation in many ways. Show me a place in a America and I'll show you a place in California that compares to it very closely. Conversely, there are places here that truly are like nowhere else in the world.
October 6, 2008 3:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
The fact that the legislature cannot legally pass a budget bill by straight majority helps, there.
October 6, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right. The two-thirds rule means that the perennial Republican (as of late) minority can always live and die by their flagship issue.
October 6, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
While Carson, CA (where Palin held her rally) is a Democratic stronghold, it is just 3 or so miles from one of the reddest regions in Los Angeles County, the Palos Verdes peninsula. And of course her trip to her fundraiser in Costa Mesa put her in the middle of deep red Orange County.
Of course CA is blue this year. That doesn't stop either campaign from fundraising here.
October 6, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm still trying to come up with an apt description of Palin's use of coffee cup wisdom. Sarah Sparkle's Dixie Cup Diplomacy?
I wonder if she has a Ziggy calendar on her desk, in order to get those daily doses of her "providential" moments?
October 5, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm hoping her next speech will be predicated on a "Love Is..." panel.
October 6, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Astral66 also posted about this before I did, right here.
October 5, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a man, I feel obligated to vote for the four-testicle ticket.
October 5, 2008 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Would that be the "Tetri-cle" ticket?
October 5, 2008 9:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
It means that's the ticket which puts Genghis on fire.
October 5, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
That would be in contrast to the Udderly Ridiculous ticket?
October 6, 2008 2:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's it, I and all my ferocious sisters are now voting for the America of Palin/McCain.
October 5, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
The "Two Ovaries and a Fossilized Peanut" ticket?
October 5, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, that's the one!!!!!
That glass ceiling had better watch out!
Laughing out loud.
October 5, 2008 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
You betcha!
October 5, 2008 10:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone want a Peanut?
And I though Cricket was more the Jane Eyre/Wuthering Height, perhaps a bit of D.H. Lawrence thrown in for good measure type. In short, the original suffrage that's gotten a bit thrown under the carriage of late.
October 6, 2008 2:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is it just me, or does Sarah Palin sound like she is always addressing us like 1st graders?
I also like how you can be progressive and conservative at the same time. I guess that's like being a Federalist for State's Rights.
And she comes from a family of teachers?
And what the hell is she doing forming political philosophy from Starbucks cups?
And why is she drinking Starbucks?
Sarah Palin: closet elitist.
You know in your heart she's right. Far, far right.
October 6, 2008 2:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well as someone who is in the other state who has their two Senators are women and our Governor is a woman(oh and I was on of those that had to affirm my vote for her 3 times and be part of the 133 vote margin that gave her victory in the end), I also really, REALLY get the importance of supporting women. But coming from someone who might have single-handley put us back another two steps, we all X chromosome types can really do with out Sarah Palin pretending to be about us or care about us. This is a person who wants to take the right to choose about our own bodies away from us, and give to a mostly male centered government instead. Who charged us when we were raped the cost to prove it. Who even if we were raped or the victim of incest, would rather force us legally to have the child from that horrible act. Who is on the ticket who voted consistently against equal pay for equal work and oh yeah, is an adulterous asshat who also treat his current trophy wife like such crap that he feels he can call her the "C" word. So as Albright was trying to point out to our oblivious Palin, the acts she has done against are horrible enough, but the fact that she did them and is also incidentally a woman? makes it them that much worse.
By her own words, Palin has a place in hell waiting for her. And she certainly has earned it.
October 6, 2008 4:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I frequently read Starbucks cups for quotes to see how I should feel and think...
On the other hand, just to be kind, perhaps she was just being very silly in the midst of silly season... Nah.
October 6, 2008 5:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Conservatives who agree that Sarah Palin is not qualified as well as the true believers who love her unconditionally and are as apologetic as any Bushie agree that Sarah Palin is the future of the Republican party. If she's not in this time, they see her in the White House next time. Hopefully they don't wise up so we can keep our entertainment of having this stupid woman for her fellow Republicans to kick around when they start their slow decent into H-E-double hockey sticks.
October 6, 2008 8:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
What an empty suit this woman is.
October 6, 2008 8:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
I kinda doubt she's campaigning there with the thought that CA might turn red. I would guess she's fund raising there and doing some campaigning on the side.
October 6, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sure, there's no way CA is going for McCain this year. There's definitely a lot of money for the GOP in southern CA as well.
October 6, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's typical fundamentalist crap.
There is a fundamentalist Christian financial organization who conducts seminars.
I spoke with someone who attended one of these. He was shcoked and so was I when he heard one of the speakers tell the audience that "if you file bankruptcy for any reason you will go to hell!
Wacky !!!
October 6, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
What is she on, and why isn't she sharing it?
October 6, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
My Friends, let me give you some straight talk here - it is a little known fact that hell has vast oil reserves. I propose the drilling begin immediately. Furthermore, I am an expert on The Abyss - I have actually already been dead for 12 years now. Can Barack Obama say that?! His continued insistence on pulling out of hell shows a distinct naivete.
I was a POW,
McCain '08!
October 6, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
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