Obama and Biden may not be talking about her right now (and Biden's reference only by position and then comparison to "that kid" we all remember from elementary school is utterly priceless!) .... but I'm willing to bet a lot of money that they are NOT "ignoring" her. She is dangerous -- she's a cobra. And you don't just go taking random swipes at a poison-spitting cobra. You study it, gather all the information you can, and when you attack you make sure you KILL - quickly and permanently.

She may self-destruct: that would be best and show McCain for an utter fool, without Obama/Biden having to get their hands dirty. In fact the most damaging thing that can happen now is for her to keep avoiding the press and the people get impatient and suspicious all on their own. The glow of her 'victory' (tho I thought it was actually piss-poor, speech and delivery) is fading and there's nothing to replace it, no fuel for this "Sarah is wonderful" euphoria. Attacking right now would be a bad mistake - she's not doing anything so why turn her into a victim?

(Is it true that she's giving, practically word for word, the convention speech at each campaign stop on her current tour with McCain? That in itself looks really bad. And the absence of anything new -- except the drip-drip-drip of vetting by the press) -- is making last Wednesday's "triump" look like perhaps a one trick pony.

Having gotten some sense of how Obama works, I'm willing to bet that the ammunition is being gathered and stockpiled in readily accessible bundles and work is being done on different types of delivery systems, waiting to see which one will be most effective when she does make a move. As he said in the "60 Minutes" interview, Obama truly is serious about *winning* this election. Not a guarantee that he will, of course, but it is a guarantee, I suspect, that he is not ignoring Sarah P. in any sense of the word. He's just not taking action yet - and up until now his sense of timing has been impressive.

So while I agree with you that it would be a big mistake for him to ignore her ... I doubt very much that that is what's happening.

Obama is starting off pretty well by playing McCain's and Palin's pronouncement about earmarks against each other. It is good to hear Obama saying "They must think you are stupid."

Well there is plenty more where that came from. I see this as a template to fight the ticket of McCain/Palin and have the shortcoming of each stick like marmalade to the other.

Take the excellent points made by Comrade Rotwang about the socialism of the Alaskan State.
Let us ask both of the GOP candidates if that provides any guideline to feed revenue streams for Federal programs of education, infrastructure, etc. When they say Hell no! Ask what they will do instead. Let the gaffes begin. Take the worst answer and spread liberally over both.

Who's ignoring whom?

Attack Palin if you can but ONLY do it by separating her from her supporters, by all means.

As Obama said about McCain; "I don't think he is racist, I just think he is cynical."

Palin is not stupid or a Xtian wacko or a gun nut or a bad mom or a hick or trailer trash. She is none of those things, she is just cynical. Give voters a choice, don't demean them for liking her.

She is extremely dangerous electorally and politically, she embodies the Rovian politics of resentment that got Bush into the White House and she could do the same thing. She is even more dangerous because of Bush's failures. She is "authentic" when he is just a poseur and she represents redemption for all of those whose pride is wounded by his failures.

This election is now only about McCain in the context of his judgement in picking Palin. This election is now Palin and the politics of resentment vrs. Obama. And there is nothing rational about it.

The Republicans are doing exactly what I predicted the day Palin was chosen - use her as the main attack dog ("Pit Bull") at stump speeches and keep her on a leash while Graham, Lieberman and the usual suspects handle the press for her.
The Republicans will keep Palin quarantined from all but their own in-house media outlets (like Fox and ABC/Disney). The rest of the Media will have no access before and after her staged and venomous belches to audiences throughout America's backwaters.
The proof of the Media's total incompetence will be the story they end up showing on each night's newscast - an unchallenged re-broadcast of the day's speech, highlighting the latest garbage from Palin's mouth.
Most voters will never hear about her support of the Bridge to Nowhere (support until Ted Stevens was indicted), her horrible record on earmarks (even McCain criticized her in 2001), her book-burning crusades (and trying to fire the librarian), her comments that God told her to build an Oil pipeline and invasion of Iraq was His will, her Family Values that apply to everybody else's family but her own, her active membership in an Alaska Secessionist group (good American values), her Paul Bunyon-sized yarn about Selling the Governor's jet on Ebay for a net profit (it was sold through a broker for a net loss), her firing of the head of the State Troopers for not firing her trooper ex-brother-in-law over a Palin family domestic dispute, her hiring of a crony as the new Trooper head who was under indictment at the time for sexual harassment (and had to quit two weeks after Palin appointed him), her total denial of Global Warming, her rejection of the Bush Administration's own assessment that Polar Bears are facing certain extinction, her personally shooting wolves from planes (why can't she hunt and shoot her friends, like other Republicans), her anti-abortion position- even for rape and incest cases, her anti-Science- anti-Evolution beliefs (that should help us compete in a Global Market)
and the fact that she's a blatant liar.
But we still don't know much about Palin - there's probably a lot more frightening information right around the corner. Just don't expect the Media to dig it up before November.

*Their net worth in their investment accounts is well over $9 Million + (as filed in financial docs with the state)

I found this information on http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-78448

Does anyone know how much money they have and where it came from?

Mc Cain wants us to believe he is going to once again flip back to being the maverick so many loved, but he choose Palin who is against everything he believed in as that maverick.

If this country elects them, knowing this, wouldn,t that make this country beyond stupid? With his age, it is in the realm of possibility we could have President Palin(God that's scary). Buyers regret won't help much after we lose the court for many peoples lifetime & the possibility of R vs W overturned, environment stalled & drilling all over because she's an energy expert, the media told us so, right? They were a huge reason Bush won not once, but twice.

It's certainly keeping me up nights.

That's what campaign ads are for. I agree that Obama needs to hit her hard, and question McCain's judgement for selecting her. That's what advertising is for. There is no way that the Obama/Biden campaign is going to get a fair shake from the corporate media; they are going to have to pay for the privelige of attacking her.

Amen. The man says he's from Chicago. Well, act like it. I don't remember any of Jane Byrne's enemies, and in particular, Walter Washington, pulling their punches when hitting her.

someone said something to me in passing about the Palin play, which I thought just about summed it up: "they pulled off a miracle, it's now two against one."

I agree with the worriers. The Obama campaign, thus far, is far too delicate, and far to slow. Where was their Friday ad response to step on the McCain bounce? Where are their viral Internet ads mocking Palin's record (no need to even bother with her "Jerry Springer Show" family life...) where was the vigorous Joe Biden counterpunch on MTP today? The blase attitude of the campaign, and their dogged insistence on staying on message, and simply nursing the ground game, without directly, and forcefully, neutralizing Palin for swing voting women, is going to lose them this election. I say that with sadness, and with a determination to renew my passport, just in case.

I'm too fucking freaked out by this wacky election at the moment to know what the right thing to do is. I just hope someone important on the Obama campaign reads this thread and takes into consideration the various ideas presented.