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Revenge of the Jewish Grandmas
I talked with my momma today. 69 years old, white, Jewish, Florida resident. Exactly the kind of voter John McCain was hoping to attract by nominating Sarah Palin.
So apparently mom had dinner with her friends the other night, all Jewish grandmas in Florida. Prior to the convention, they split 50-50 between McCain and Obama. As of the other night, they are unanimously supporting Barack Obama. Why, you may be asking? Two words: Sarah Palin. Turns out, my mom and her friends are scared to death of having Sarah Palin anywhere near a lever of power.
Admittedly, my momma's friends are a small and not necessarily representative sample. But if what's happening with them is happening with other Florida seniors, John McCain might want to watch his back in Florida -- grandma's comin' out to vote!







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My Friends, I welcome this endorsement from your grandmothers, of whom many I fathered, to be president of the United States. So, in closing, never forget that Barack Obama is himself Jewish.
I was a POW,
John McCain '08.
September 23, 2008 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
IAmJohn that is the kind frontier jibberish only John McCain would spout. I think you have a future as one of his speechwriters. I hope that wasn't a just a flash in the bedpan. Might you be encouraged to write a full post of such bonbons?
September 23, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
My Friend, I welcome your suggestion and will do so, for the small pittance of $50 per hour. You could not do this work, nor could I, so I will hire some of those Taliban from Iraq that always hang out near the 7 Home Depots by my place.
I was a POW,
McCain '08.
September 23, 2008 10:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I say what he said, that global warming is not real. Okay, bye now!
xoxoxo,
Sarah (2009-2010ish).
September 23, 2008 11:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup, yup!
September 24, 2008 2:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
A brief future.
September 23, 2008 11:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMG that's so funny ... I can't stop laughing ... lmao
September 24, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Newparadigm,
I hope your grandma and her friends have kept their voter registrations and state ID scrupulously up to date, lest they get a nasty November Surprise on Election Day. And furthermore, the registration had better be pitch-perfect before October 6, which is the state deadline for changes or corrections.
As a former Republican and native Floridian, I can promise you that there will be poll watchers, from both parties, checking every document and challenging voters. (Never mind the caged ones who won't appear on the rolls, and might not know until November 6.) I don't know how many people know about this practice, but poll watchers are registered voters, posted by local party machines at each precinct. This is legal, by the way. They get a list of registered voters in the precinct and are allowed to challenge anyone whose ID doesn't conform. Moved, and the address on your driver's license doesn't match your voter registration? No vote for you. ID expired? No vote for you. Got married and changed your license but not your voter registration? No vote for you.
I know. I was a poll watcher 2004 and thank God, didn't have occasion to challenge anyone. (Did I mention there was a whispering campaign before the election, saying that blacks and Democrats were conspiring to commit voter fraud? Yeah. Yummy.) Now, I'd reprise the role just to ensure nobody was bullied or typo-ed or Jim Crowed out of a vote.
Everyone, tell your grandmas, tell your parents, neighbors, friends, significant others and total strangers. Make your vote count! Then write your Senator and Representative to demand national, sane voting legislation to replace the backward patchwork in place now. The Help America Vote Act was a joke.
September 23, 2008 7:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tell me you *have* posted this on all the other relevant blog sites? And as op-ed pieces in all the print media?
Preventing people from voting is the biggest unspoken means by which the GOP diminishes democracy. They know they can't win on their own merits, so they're attempting to win by stealth.
We know this - you clearly know it from the inside - but it needs to be said aloud...Often, and often, and often
good luck
September 24, 2008 6:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just curious: Did they say what it is about her? Does the Jews for Jesus thing get any traction? Or her generally nutty Young Earth Xianity?
September 23, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
My 90 year old jewish grandma was going to vote for McCain, but his VP selection convinced her that he he was sick in the head.
September 23, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've been canvassing and phonebanking for my local Dem House challenger Scott Harper against 10 year incumbent 71 year old Judy Biggert. I'm getting a lot of older woman, indies and Dems who are disgusted with McCain and hence the Republican party for foisting the fraud Palin on us. Hillary supporters are really angry about it. It's a real insult to their intelligence.
The last couple of days hardcore Republicans are getting really cranky, saying a few mean things and hanging up. Always a good sign.
September 23, 2008 10:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin looks like a nightmare to many Jewish voters. Obviously, Jews are a pretty liberal demographic and Palin is decidedly conservative - no matter what lipstick she wears. Also, most older, mainstream Jews view Christian fundamentalists as dangerous nut jobs (despite their support for Israel, which many Jews view as a fortuitous result of their lunatic eschatological beliefs). Many Jews suspect that Christian fundamentalists are all closeted anti-Semites (like Billy Graham and Jerry Falwell, don't you know). Further, the whole frontier-woman image -- with the shotgun and the camouflage outfits -- is far from a positive image for most Jews. (Gun ownership may be lower among Jews than any other ethnic group). Also, also, Jews like intellectuals and people who, at least, sound intelligent when they talk -- not so much Palin's strength. In other words, "A right-wing, gun-toting, Jesus-loving Shikse from a place that's cold like Siberia? Oy. What's to like?"
September 23, 2008 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hi Everybody!!! :D
I don't know what a Vice President does, but I'm gonna do what the Vice President because God told me so. Okay, see you soon, now.
xoxoxo,
Sarah (2009-2010ish)!
September 23, 2008 11:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's what Florida needs to hear about Sarah Palin.
A noun, a verb, and "Jews for Jesus."
And here's what Floridians need to hear about making sure their voter registration is up to date.
A noun, a verb, the voter registration deadline (October 6th), and "purging the electoral roll for any reason."
September 24, 2008 12:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Polin is used to the cold we must return her home asap before she has a melt down ( her melting ice is Gods will ) then McCain misses the sand ,cactus,sunshine so he needs to return to Az asap as well so bring the votes on Florida we are with you /Obama all the way .
78 yr. ,white Gramma from Washington State "The Great Northwest" for Obama(have been since I heard his speech in 2004).
September 24, 2008 12:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the Grandma vote is getting motivated not just in Florida, but everywhere. Remember, these nice little ladies haven't spent their entire lives baking snickerdoodles. As kids in the 30's they went to bed hungry. As young women they worked along side Rosie the Riveter and dreaded the sight of a Western Union man on their street. They raised families during the upheavals of the 60's and 70's. They've buried husbands, sons, and daughters. Yeah, I know, cue the music for the Greatest Generation, but we often forget they have seen the good and bad of real life, and the decent and ugly of people.
My mom is one of them. As an example, she gave a very succinct explanation to me many years ago on her pro choice stance "Those judges would maybe have a right to discuss this after each one of them had a goddamn baby" (pre O'Conner/Ginsburg obviously, and for her it was very clearly a pro choice stand, NOT pro abortion).
She thinks McCain is a either a wackjob or so full of shit his eyes are brown (or both) and Palin is a poser busybody who loves to tell other people what to do. She's seen their type before.
She's for Obama, but as a word of warning, he'd better not step out of line, because I'm sure she knows the way to the woodshed and can still swing a willow switch so fast it whistles.
September 24, 2008 1:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
The West Coast of FL is looking pretty good too.
My Nona (grandmother) is 87 y/o. She lives in Sarastota, FL. She is Methodist, not Jewish, but she has voted Republican her entire life. She loves Barack and likes the hope he offers. She called me a few months ago and asked if she needed to go somewhere to sign up to be a Democrat. I told her she was fine for a general election, so we checked her registration to make sure it's okay (I helped her to check online) and she's ready to vote.
Nona is not very political, since voting straight party Republican her whole life she never had to think about it. Her boyfriend (95 y/o -- they are so cute) is starting to lean too. He is a retired banker from Maine. He has never voted Democrat and I am hopeful that Nona will convince him before Election Day.
September 24, 2008 6:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have been in FL temporarily for 8 months. The big question for Jewish seniors is whether Palin's craziness trumps "Obama is a Muslim" and "Obama hates Israel", which is what I hear from a lot of my parents' friends. Granted, many are moderate Republicans who would be inclined to vote for McCain anyway - but many would have voted for Hillary. I still smell the racial aspect motivating them but they cover it with "Muslim" excuses. The good news is that they are definitely scared of Palin. The question is where the scale tips.
September 24, 2008 7:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
My folks are both firmly behind Senator Obama at this point, as are just about all of their fellow Jewish retirees in their little big retirement village in South Florida. I think, at least with respect to my Dad, that the selection of Governor Palin, left him with no doubt about Obama (my Dad, unlike most Jews of his generation and upbringing has voted for lots of Republicans who were running against white Democrats, beginning with Ike).
Jews voting for the Democrat, of course, is only profound to those who pay attention to the Jewish "spokespersons" who like to pretend that they and a few other enlightened lefty Jewish souls inside the beltway are not afraid to vote for an African American. Put another way, lots of folks wrongly assumed (and still do), based on their own petty-assed and wrong stereotypes (yes I said stereotypes) that traditionally Democratic Jewish people are somehow going to change their voting patterns because Senator Obama is a black guy and some morons out their are playing some kind of ridiculous muslim card. Nonsensical out-of-touch drivel that sells papers, I guess, but which also makes your post an important one in a reality check sense, and one recommended by me.
September 24, 2008 7:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
There is a Jewish voting population (read, e.g., voters in Crown Heights) that will not be happy with the color of Obama's skin, and that's a fact of life. There is, in addition, a number of pro-settler types as well, who see Obama's stand on Israel as not quite Likudnik enough, and they are lost too. Walk the halls at Yeshiva in Manhattan and you'll hear the talk -- both varieties of it.
But for the greater number of Jewish voters, I think your analysis is dead on -- though you cannot discount completely the effect of the fear/smear campaign of ultra right wing Jewish groups. Nor the effect of someone like Malcolm Hoenlein questioning Obama's stand on Israel in the Jersusalem Post.
Among the usually Democratic but less informed Jewish voters -- and include here a substantive percentage of elderly Jewish voters, along with a number of the ladies who lunch -- the negativity has had some effect. But the Obama campaign -- along with more liberal Jewish organizations -- have been at pains to counter this, they have had at least moderate success.
But when you throw a wacko choice like Sarah Palin into the mix, common sense thankfully prevails, and these voters revert directly, without passing go, to their basically liberal and Democratic instincts.
The Palin choice is going to make Florida very very close for McCain.
September 24, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
My grandma is really, really old and is one of those "I want to see a woman in the white house before I die" voters. I haven't talked to her since the Palin pick, but I'll bet she votes for McCain because of it.
Also, she has issues with race. I love her, but it seems pretty clear to me she won't vote for a black man, especially if there's a woman anywhere on the ticket. We got in a big argument about this over the summer. She said some pretty unforgivable things about the changing racial identity of the city of Cleveland (where's she's lived for most of her life). But I had to just let it go after a while, because I was hitting a brick wall. The stuff Obama said in his "race speech" about his grandmother's racist statements hit home for me.
Just offering up my personal grandma example. Nothing scientific, obviously.
September 24, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
My parents lived in Miami Beach with the rest of the "alte kockers" so I can relate to your post. I think Sarah Palin reminds them of their worst nightmare; the dumb "shicksa" they dread their precious son (or grandson) might bring home to meet them some day. It doesn't help that she's evangelical. There has always been a mistrust among elderly Jews of evangelical Christians no matter how pro-Israel they might be.
September 24, 2008 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the thing: The Democrats most reliable voting blocks, with over 80% of the vote each, are blacks and Jews. McCain's biggest voting blocks now are Fox News viewers and people older than 60. So it's not surprising that among retired Jews there will be some conflict between the two candidates, but most will eventually trend Obama.
That McCain does well among older people is not self-evident, and tells us a lot about racism in this country. McCain is clearly not someone who engenders a lot of trust among those who care about retiree programs like social security and medicaid. Nor do McCain's positions on the Iraq War work well for him -- during 2003 those older than 60 were the most skeptical of the administration's claims, probably because they grew up in the aftermath of WW2 and heard a lot about how the Third Reich drummed up internal support for their war.
So, on the issues, the older folks should favor Obama. Yet they don't. I strongly suspect that this can be explained by the fact that they came of age in the 1940s-early 1960s, an era when Jim Crow was still the law of the South and segregation was the rule everywhere else. They can't help being raised at such a time, but it certainly must have influenced their perceptions.
Fortunately, we also see from the polls a very clear trend that the younger the demographic, the stronger the support for Obama. I suspect that among the 18-29 year olds there is something of a reverse racism effect going on, in that a lot of young people of all races believe that it is a good thing for a black to be elected president.
So, do keep that in mind when talking to your older relatives.
September 24, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, I hope a whole lot of 'Jewish grandmas' are in agreement with your mom.
My mom is not Jewish, but she and her table of breakfast pals have been 'fist bumping for Obama' since the Democratic Convention. These are a bunch of white haired, middle class women who've raised families and paid a lot of dues in their lives -- many of whom supported Hilary.
Campbell Brown may be getting some new fans in the 70s and 80s bracket, these white-haired ladies don't have much patience for the way that McCain is keeping Palin under wraps.
These women have plenty of time on their hands, and some of them follow the news quite closely.
September 24, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have two old aunts, in their 80's, who are supporting Obama. They're not Jewish either. They're Roman Catholic and Italo-American. If you can believe that.
I think they mean we can win this election.
September 24, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
My Jewish grandmother (early 80s) is a snowbird who spends half the year in Florida. She has been pretty thoroughly in the tank for Obama since about halfway through the primaries, though she voted for Hillary with reservations. When I last talked with her about this, she said that a lot of her friends in Florida were supporting Hillary laregely because of racism. They were saying things like, "Can you imagine those black kids [Obama's daughters] in the White House?" In an unexpected twist, my grandmother now thinks that an enormous chunk of the support for McCain in this country is grounded in racism.
I'm not sure how Palin has impacted my grandmother's friends' choices, but I can certainly confirm, along with many others here, that Palin is the antithesis of what Jews look for in the political leader, with the exception of her strong pro-Israel views.
Generally speaking, we Jews:
(1) Don't like hunting or gun ownership, are disgusted by the idea of shooting wild animals from a plane, and aren't particularly out-doorsy;
(2) Like people with who are open to debate and argument, and can come off as reasonably intelligent when discussing a bunch of differing opinions about a problem;
(3) Are socially liberal and definitely
(4) Admire some degree of familiarity with foreign cultures generally, even if superficial;
(5) Are somewhat uncomfortable with environments where there are virtually no Jews, such as Alaska (this is perhaps more true of my grandmother's generation);
(6) Are repulsed by Christian fundamentalists, who, as a poster correctly notes above, are suspected of being closet anti-Semites; and
(7) Think that there's something weird and kind of out of control about having five kids;
(8) Are impressed, rather than annoyed, by Ivy League resumes.
Generalizations, obviously, but in my experience these statements are largely true. Palin strikes out on every single one of these.
I think that constantly harping on the likelihood of Palin assuming the presidency should McCain be elected is actually a pretty good way to talk a lot of elderly Jewish voters out of supporting McCain. The more we can get them to picture the McCain/Palin President as a wolf-shooting Christian fundamentalist middle-aged grandmother with five kids, a laughable resume, a passport minted in 2006, and Bush-quality intellect, the more we increase Obama's chances.
September 24, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry about the busted post above. Hopefully this re-post will work:
My Jewish grandmother (early 80s) is a snowbird who spends half the year in Florida. She has been pretty thoroughly in the tank for Obama since about halfway through the primaries, though she voted for Hillary with reservations. When I last talked with her about this, she said that a lot of her friends in Florida were supporting Hillary laregely because of racism. They were saying things like, "Can you imagine those black kids [Obama's daughters] in the White House?" In an unexpected twist, my grandmother now thinks that an enormous chunk of the support for McCain in this country is grounded in racism.
I'm not sure how Palin has impacted my grandmother's friends' choices, but I can certainly confirm, along with many others here, that Palin is the antithesis of what Jews look for in the political leader, with the exception of her strong pro-Israel views.
Generally speaking, we Jews:
(1) Don't like hunting or gun ownership, are disgusted by the idea of shooting wild animals from a plane, and aren't particularly out-doorsy;
(2) Like people with who are open to debate and argument, and can come off as reasonably intelligent when discussing a bunch of differing opinions about a problem;
(3) Are socially liberal and definitely pro-choice;
(4) Admire some degree of familiarity with foreign cultures generally, even if superficial;
(5) Are somewhat uncomfortable with environments where there are virtually no Jews, such as Alaska (this is perhaps more true of my grandmother's generation);
(6) Are repulsed by Christian fundamentalists, who, as a poster correctly notes above, are suspected of being closet anti-Semites; and
(7) Think that there's something weird and kind of out of control about having five kids;
(8) Are impressed, rather than annoyed, by Ivy League resumes.
Generalizations, obviously, but in my experience these statements are largely true. Palin strikes out on every single one of these.
I think that constantly harping on the likelihood of Palin assuming the presidency should McCain be elected is actually a pretty good way to talk a lot of elderly Jewish voters out of supporting McCain. The more we can get them to picture the McCain/Palin President as a wolf-shooting Christian fundamentalist middle-aged grandmother with five kids, a laughable resume, a passport minted in 2006, and Bush-quality intellect, the more we increase Obama's chances.
September 24, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMG that's so funny ... I can't stop laughing ... lmao
September 24, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think many are all for gender nothing else "cut off their nose to spite their face type" or hide behind these tales they damn well know is more McBush lies but keep repeating it.
I cannot stand either McCain / Palin and am so tired of their lies ,hiding behind crooked tactics Re:Troopergate heck McCain camp is running the Gov. desk in Alaska .
The Holly Roller movement to push on the reast of the workd is nonsence they are idiots not to mention her cornering animals then shooting.
One thing I cannot figure out is if you are bi-racial why is only one race played out?
I am 78 years white corner setter,I love Obama ,Michelle and those pretty little girls .
I already thought this but glad they reminded us Obama is "The One" in a life time a gift to help and guide us to straighten out the McBush mess but he cannot accomplish this unless we get busy and help .
September 24, 2008 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
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