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Is You Is Or Is You Ain't Campaigning?

Once again, McCain has grabbed the bully pulpit.

Let's go over the McCain strategy one more time.

With Palin holding down the Republican base, McCain is free to run against Obama, the Bush administration, the Democratic Congress and the prior Republican Congress.  He is free to wing it, play the maverick, be as unconventional as he pleases, and to be hard headed in, as he likes to say, putting his country above his political career. 

Now Bush, following McCain's lead, has summoned Obama to Washington.

In a few minutes, Bush will go on television and he will probably threaten to call a special session of Congress if the bailout is not on his desk this weekend.

McCain has scored a number of points.  If the Congress stays in session, he gets credit.  If Bush calls a special session, McCain gets credit.  If the bailout gets passed and signed, McCain gets credit.  Obama is going to Washington?  Unfortunately, McCain gets credit for that idea, too.

Obama has gambled that the American people would rather see a debate than see the financial crisis solved.  And he's gambling with our money.

The Obama campaign got taken by surprise today.  They should have cut their losses and thrown in with the old man.  Instead, they opened themselves up to a lecture on bi-partisanship and patriotism from McCain.


Comments (110)

I think Capt 'Black Jack' McCain is in a pretty ugly spot. He's fired off another wild volley, but I'm not sure it's gonna hit anything important, 1. By running renegade, no one owes him anything. Dodd's looking good, and he's not gonna offer Mac credit. Bush just drove over Mac's offer - and headline - tomorrow. And the big money boys don't give a rat's about McCain with $700 B on the table. 2. Plus, he's once again left himself open on a lot of fronts. Like... declaring time is urgent, then meeting with Lady de Rothschild? Literally cancelling on Letterman, but showing up in another studio, same time? Not just challenging Obama to come back to DC, but dragging in a separate point - on the debate. Then suggesting switching it to the VP's debate night?! And above all, what's his end-game? If he supports the bail-out, will Bush & Dodd & co. - plus everyone watching - give him the credit? 3. And it's tough sailing as a pirate - half his crew's left, and the one's remaining are looking fairly motley. Davis screws up & Palin.... well, she sure as shit ain't his bulletproof vest. She's dragging him DOWN in the polls. And film of her being blessed by a witch-hunter didn't look too cool up against a financial crisis today (though, in my mind, maybe Wall St could use that guy. ) And on Couric tonight, Palin sucked worse than bad. Didn't have a second example of McCain the Reformer - said she'd have to get staff to get back to her. Ouch. McCain's gonna need to win this, and fairly big, by the weekend.

Wow. Guess you're just not done being wrong this season. You really see this as a smart move on McCain's part? Did you see the SurveyUSA snap poll? What happens to McCain's brilliant move if Congress passes the bill in the next two days?

He gets the credit for delivering the Republicans. That's the whole point.

First, he can't deliver the Republicans. Never has, never will. He's running against them, remember.

Something tells me after calling them all out as putting there country behind their personal interests that there aren't too many folks looking to do him favors.And besides the House Republicans who live by there ideology and are happy to hold on to it as the country burns, see benefit in rejecting this deal. McCain is the heretic in theri eyes.


Of course you may be right. Maybe he can claim something that he has no responsibility for and everyone else who did have an hand in it will just stand aside. maybe.

Ha! He's got something they need. Palin!

Yeah, whatever.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080925/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_meltdown_923

He's one mile from home already. Old Barney Frank got the lead out, trying to get something in place before McCain gets to town.

That old bully pulpit is powerful. Clap the man.
Give him his due, ya mean men.

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=9900228

If that link works, you can see the McCain spin. Also, the next item up will be an Obama rebuttal.

Origin of the funniest line of the campaign. Did she steal it from Letterman?

You sure about that, Billy? What's McCain's exit strategy? Lots of Republicans don't like this bailout one bit. Huckabee just sent a pretty curt e-mail to all of his supporters discussing how disappointed he is with his party. Does McCain make a move to appease the George Bush GOP or the Mike Huckabee GOP? Keep in mind that the media won't carry water for him anymore, either. Rick Davis, Phil Gramm, $700B blank checks, $11.3T debt ceiling and John McCain doesn't know shit from Shinola when it comes to economics.

What's a maverick to do? I think we both know it's straight theater, but will it play in Peoria? I certainly have my doubts.

DF, I honestly can't think of anything that could have put more pressure on Congress and the Bush Administration to resolve this crisis. He has them all fleeing before him. I already hear the lamentation of their women.

We'll just have to wait to see how it plays in Peoria.

Well, there may be some lamentation coming, but there's that one damnable woman who seems to be keeping her head. Looks like we're gonna step-by-step our way straight back to the New Deal.

I liked her wrap-up line: "This is a sink-or-swim moment for America. We cannot simply catch our breath. We've got to swim for the shores."

McCain should hope that people in Peoria don't watch Letterman.

Where has Oprah been lately? She's my thought leader.

Letterman didn't just rib him for a moment with Olbermann either. Check this out from the 3:25 mark. Letterman pulls no punches.

Here's what happens. The economy is about to crater. You're a Senator, a fourth term Senator from Arizona. You go back to Washington. You handle what you need to handle. Don't suspend your campaign. You let your campaign go on, shouldered by your Vice Presidential nominee. That's what you do. You don't quit.

Then around the 4:15 mark:

You say, "I've gotta get back to Washington to save this country." Good for you. "And while I'm gone campaigning in my stead will be my great running mate from Alaska, Sarah Palin." And she comes out and campaigns... What happened there? What's the problem? Where, where is she? What, why isn't doing that?

At the 5:10 mark:

And let's say there's a time of crisis and the poor guy, because he's a little older, he's about my age, and then Sarah Palin takes over as President, well she ought to be ready because she's handled crises like this in the past. Oh, wait a minute, she really hasn't handled a crises[sic] like this in the past. You don't suspend... Let me just go through this one more time to make my point absolutely clear. He can't run the campaign because the economy is about to crater. Fine, you put in your second-string quarterback. Well, where is our second-string quarterback?

And the finisher at the 6:10 mark:

A hero, an honest to God hero, an American hero, maybe the only actual hero I know, I've met the man, I know the guy, so I'm more than a little disappointed by this behavior. "We're suspending the campaign." Are we suspending it because there's an economic crisis or because the poll numbers are sliding?

Now, I don't claim to be a simple man, the salt-of-the-earth. I'm probably more what you'd call an intellectual elitist, but I'd be willing to bet that your Joe Sixpack can understand the terms that Letterman just put this in. You'll notice that Letterman doesn't even question the ridiculous premise of John McCain flying back to Washington to save the country. He takes it at face value, calls him the only hero he knows and still finds this whole sham to be completely lacking. McCain better hope Joe Sixpack had already finished his nightly ration of Bud Lights and passed out before Letterman's tirade.

Who's gonna carry this football for John McCain? It's apparently not gonna be Charlie Gibson or Katie Couric or Campbell Brown or George Will or David Brooks or Maureen Dowd or Peggy Noonan or.. hell, I give up. How's he gonna make hay out of this, Billy? The recent change of trend in the polls doesn't matter half as much as the fact that the whole MSM just developed a bitter taste in its mouth for John McCain, maybe for the first time in twenty years. Do you you really think he can push this story himself? With what, television ads? While every network anchor, every pundit, every late night talk show host in America is calling his bullshit?

He's already forced the Admin and the Congress to make a deal. Now he'll get them to tweak it some after his meeting. Then he'll hold them in line until it passes. Then he'll debate Obama. He doesn't care what anybody thinks. He's doing the right thing and the courageous thing. If the rest of the country catches up, he'll be President. If not, he'll lose and go back to the Senate. In the meantime, he'll have done what he needed to do to save America.

You really believe this is John McCain's doing or are you just telling me what his story is gonna be? This guy hasn't even been bothered to vote in the last two years. What did he actually do? He hasn't really suspended his campaign. He can't. It's a stunt. I'm waiting to see how he votes. He's already squirming over that. What's his plan? Is the economy strong or is it going to crater? Does he even know?

See, here's the real rub: His base is with the Dems on this. So, does he side with the Bush GOP, the gold-holders and rule-makers, a.k.a. his campaign, or does he side with the GOP that he needs to vote for him? You know, the ones that still care about being fiscally conservative? The reguhlur folk? People like the ones who were protesting in front of the NYSE today. If you believe what he's been saying this week then he doesn't like the bailout as Bush and Paulson are pushing it. He's actually on the side of the Congressional Dems, as well as the majority of traditional Republicans. So, what did he actually do to broker any of this?

Then again, if you believe what he said last week nothing is wrong. Does he even really know the answer to the question? Does he know the question?

Billy, everything I have read or heard suggests Congress will stay in session till this legislation gets passed.
So no need for a special session.
A final draft will probably be ready before Bush's high-level meeting convenes today.
It escapes me how you imagine McCain gets any boost out of this stunt.

We'll have to see how it all plays out. He has already gotten the meeting he asked for. Obama has been ordered back to D.C. to meet by McCain via Bush. The Congress, which is the only entity hated more than Bush, has been put on the spot. They'll probably have a deal before Friday afternoon, so McCain will be able to debate if he wants to, and McCain will claim credit for that.

McCain was facing a debate on foreign policy, his strong suit, in the middle of an economic crisis. Obama would have turned every question back to the economy. Now, every time he does that, McCain will be waiting with his triumph.

The debate? Tough John McCain spends his time working for America while politician Barack Obama rehearses and prepares for three days in Florida, except for the time McCain calls him back to D.C. How high is the bar for Obama? Have you ever seen McCain debate? He is actually very, very good.

Don't make me laugh on the absurdity of McCain's trying to resolve the financial crisis by showing up in Washington DC. As of Tuesday, he admitted he did not even read the bailout proposal, all 2 and 1/2 pages of it. He doesn't belong in the Senate banking committee and therefore is not allowed to attend its meeting or to put his two cents in closed door negotiation. All he wanted to do was to try looking "presidential" for the photo op and to claim credit for the deal someone else spent days to make (like the GI bill that he opposed and didn't show up to vote for but took credit for it afterward). It was just a political ploy to , to delay the presidential debate this Friday, and to postpone the vice presidential debate next week becasue both McCain and Palin were not prepared for the debates. If a candidate claimed that he was an expert in foreign policy but didn't know the difference between Sunni and Shiite, didn't know whether Darfur belongs to Sudan or Somalia, thought Iraq and Pakistan share a border, or had no clue that Jose Luis Zapatero is the current Prime Minister of Spain, one of our NATO allies, then try to weasel out of a debate on foreign policy, there was only one reason: he didn't want to be exposed as a clueless fraud in front of millions of voters. And so he made the only move he could thank of: CUT AND RUN!

Too many people, unfortunately, will not see it as a stunt. They will see it as leadership.

That scares me.

Many people will see it for it's clarity. McCain is a stupid man who follows stupid advice.

That assures me.

So which hand wins?

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The hand holding the saddle bags with $700,000,000,000 in them.

Brilliant image!

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Thanks, it's the best I could conjure. I'll just be glad when the Democrats pay the ransom and this hostage/financial crisis is resolved so I can go about my trash-picking. I'm considering either learning how to can veggies or to sneak into South America. It's not as easy as our southern neighbors make it look.

The fun part is that McCain is running as the guy who puts his country above his political ambitions. He has been characterizing Obama as the guy who would rather lose a war than lose the election. Now McCain can characterize Obama as the guy who would rather see the financial system collapse than lose the election. Pretty slick. I can remember when Obama's only claim to executive experience was his "brilliant" campaign. But he can't put McCain away. His only explanation? Racism. What a campaign!

So McCain says he hasn't read the plan yet. (it's on the front page). He's a maverick, who needs a plan.

His big solution now, we need Warren Buffet. Mike Bloomberg and Mitt Romney to oversee this. What is wrong with that picture?

This thing has been going on all week. McCain riding in on his jet and pretending to save the day. I don't think anyone is going to buy that.

But look at it this way. You have a crisis in the financial sector. You have a do nothing Congress that is loathed by the electorate even more than the Bush adminsitration is. You have two of Fannie Maes biggest fans who pushed Fannie Mae and the industry to underwrite more low income family home loans now leading the Comgressional effort to bail the sector out. They are holding high-profile hearings and getting nowhere.

Now a candidate for President says hey! I'm going to suspend my campaign until you pass this legislation. No campaign. No Presidential debate unless you get your act together and pass this legislation. I'm coming to DC to meet with the President, Congress, Paulson and Bernarke and I want Senator Obama to come, too. I'm not going back on the campaign until you resolve this crisis.

What would you say if you didn't despise McCain and everything he stands for? What if Obama had done that? Wouldn't we be calling it Presidential?

"What would I be saying if I didn't despise McCain & everything he stands for?"

"Hey! All you poor people. Get off my lawn.
And umm..... leave your wallets."

I do appreciate your ability to see through McCain's eyes, or perhaps his most optimistic strategists eyes. I live in Washington, I'm in it up to my eyeballs. It's hard to tell how the rest of the country is seeing this. I do not think that McCain's image as the white knight has remained intact out there in the hustings.

Problems: (1) McCain was ALL over the map for the past week and that hurt the image of him as the resolute one. Message is very messy right now, a sudden moment of clarity is wishful thinking.(2) Substantively he and Obama agree on the basic outline. So I don't see how he makes much of a distinction here. If the dems are right on the issues, he is making a play based entirely on his personality (3) Obama says we can do two things at once. McCain says, I can only do one. Which is more presidential? (4) none of the negotiating parties in Congress have any reason to follow McCain's lead or give him credit(5) McCain is not LBJ, he has never shown an ability to get the right wing of his party to follow him (6) What possible reason is there not to debate or to discuss publicly what is going on? They could debate the economic issues if nothing else. Are they running for legislative negotiator in chief or leader? Ducking the debate invites ridicule not awe.


Can anyone describe a similar precedent?

Well, I think Carter dropped out of a Reagan debate and some say it hurt him. But what I think you are doing is making the point that McCain would rather do what's right than win the election. You sure you want to make that point?

I like the Bill Clinton approach. Democrats are better than Republicans. Obama is better than McCain. Times are hard and people have to choose carefully. But I will not put McCain down. Obama is going to have to beat him. I am not going to smear him. When McCain is right, he's right. When he's wrong, he's wrong. But smear campaigns cheapen us all.

Aww, really? Can't put him away? We're gonna do the "Why can't he close the deal thing?" again? I know you like to play here, but this ain't your first rodeo. No one gets "put away" before election day and you know that.

BTW, last night Colbert referred to John McCain as the guy who would rather lose a campaign than win a campaign.

That's almost as funny as maybe Obama can debate Biden if McCain doesn't show up. Second place goes to Texas is in play.

Stewart gave it to Biden pretty well last night over the FDR/Depression comment. Although Stewart apparently doesn't know that Beretta is a firearms manufacturer, not a handgun. Them libruls don't know nuthin' 'bout no guns.

I wish I could afford a Beretta shotgun.

As do I. A Beretta semi-auto would do nicely in the coming resource wars. I guess I'll have to rely on my Mossberg when it comes time to shoot my neighbors for water. At least I'll be able to say that I bought American. That still counts for something, right?

I have a Benelli, but it's not for hunting.

Benelli isn't bad either. I might take one of those over the Beretta.

I gotta chopper, but no guns. (They're kinda strict on that shit up here.) So when the rabid, red-eyed & half-starved neighbors.... errrr... wolves... surround my place, you guys up for a little cooperation?

$150 bucks a foreleg.

You should be living in the North American green-belt by then, so that sounds like a fine offer.

Billy Glad, I think your post makes some great points about the way McCain is gaming this and just may come out ahead.

But I don't agree that what Obama's doing is somehow endangering the goings on in DC. Quite simply, he's needed in DC even less than McCain is. The Democrats aren't the ones wailing about socialism and how the bailout is unamerican, and threatening to scuttle the deal.

Though whether McCain can deliver his party is pretty iffy when Cheney himself couldn't. But even if McCain can deliver some votes, can't he logroll by phone? By proxy? This pilgrimage to DC smacks of the same kind of election theatrics that his pilgrimage to New Orleans did.

He just doesn't need to be there physically, except to grandstand, and while I agree he could score some points for this little dog and pony show, the operative word is could. Right now it seems to be blowing up in his face.

Even if he does get a little leg up, I think this stunt will play to very few outside of the true believers, and people who understand dick about what's really going on in DC. I don't think anyone who's truly concerned and thoughtful on this issue and attentively watching the story unfold will be impressed with McCain's new sturm und drang effort -- not even Republicans, or at least not the adult wing of the party. When George Will tells us McCain is making him fearful, you better believe the sturm und drang has ceased to play.

My guess is it's pretty transparent to the whole country that McCain knows he's hogtied by his deregulation history and he's trying to create chaos simply to distract the country from it -- and certainly not get asked any questions about it right now in a nationally televised debate.

But I think, in the end, he may be just too branded by his ideology to stop the downward spiral he's in -- which is only going to get worse as the market flounders for the next few weeks -- and it will, bailout or no bailout. So my strong suspicion is, as the bailout gets finalized and the dust settles, and Jane and John Doe watch their 401ks dwindle between now and November anyway, the consensus will be, oh yeah, McCain. He went to DC to fix everything. Yeah. That asshole.

Sometimes it's better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and confirm all doubt.

Nah.

McCain is the guy that would suspend democracy in order to bail out morally-challenged millionaires....

I think Glad just doesn't get it.

I'm just happy that you relented and started reading and commenting on my blog again.

Yeah, well. I felt a little sorry for you as you seem to have painted yourself into a corner. Could be the dunce's corner, maybe. You don't generally misread the American Public so completely, but it seems to be your 'thing' lately.

I figured I'd give you an opportunity to take a cheap shot. That always seems to cheer you up.

Happy to see it worked.

I was being sincere. Did I take a cheap shot at you? I apologize.

Once again, Billy goes for the plumage and forgets the dying bird.

McCain has shown himself to be a peacock, desperate to micromanage for the cameras and shrink from the responsibilities of his campaign.

Billy, you're a freakin' magician the way you pull sacks of shit out of your magic hat. On November 5 you'll be warning us that Obama's risking impeachment by naming some of his cabinet members.

On November 5th, I'll be hungover from celebrating Obama's victory.

That's the spirit! ;)

We'll be having a lying scumbag racist victory party after we deliver MI for Obama. :)

Damn! Here I was, having a pleasant debate with that lil feller, and POOF! Comments all gone. Just make sure you invite the Coen brothers to that party, eh? (Note To Self: Wiki every phrase before using, may have been used by racist.)

By the way, we Scumbags (TM) are outraged. Please submit $300 (or two forelegs) to my address, so the artists responsible for creating this term are properly remunerated.

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It wasn't me lad. Someone must have raised a stink. They purged all my prior comments, including the dialog I was having with you. That seemed like it was pretty innocuous stuff. If Jazz and the Coen Brothers are off limits, then TPM is not going to be the place for me.

Do you suppose they would allow us to mention The Ranking Family, or Natalie MacMaster? I know, that is really playing with fire. Perhaps it was Natalie that stomped out our fire.

Duh. Watch and learn, professor. Watch and learn. McCain may be fooling you. You're in the minority.

You are definitely in the minority. The majority of the American people want to tsee the debate go on. McHoover suspending his campaign is still being framed by both sides. It will either be called a stunt or leadership.

I have to agree with Billy Glad, this is the best strategy for a losing candidate. The "rubes" in fly over country, otherwise known as the republican base, will see this as a bold move of leadership. Grandpa K5 McCain's move does not need to be based in reality at all. The impression is that of a seasoned veteran and POW fighting to put America right again. No pun intended. No matter the outcome his base and a few of the dumbest undecided will vote McCain because he seems to care about America more than Obama. All McCain needs now is a compliant media needing to sell a hero along with his attached ad space and the scheme is complete. It will work as intended but will the base and a few of the great unwashed be enough to pull off the election? We shall see?

But the media has stopped being compliant, zebracat. Full stop.

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Remember, Obama has to be up by 5% or more in the critical states to actually pull off a victory.

McCain doesn't have to be ahead in the polls at all.

Not true at all. There's a hidden electorate that no one's talking about. Democratic voter registration is SWAMPING Republican registration this year, and this year, more than any other, GOTV efforts are going to determine this race.

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I think pollsters account for that.

I think you're right, dimitry. I'm not one of the people around here who thinks he's smarter than the pollsters. I assume they mostly know what they're doing.

I know you know I don't think the racist vote will amount to a 5% difference. I'm thinking more like 1% in states like MI, IN, PA, OH. Can't justify that number any more than people can justify the 5%. Just a way of saying it's out there, but it won't be big enough to tip the election. Michigan is going to be complicated in late October, I think. The governor is not liked. Raising taxes is not liked. Romney is still liked. If McCain comes here with Romney and Palin and puts some kind of TVA-like pander to the auto industry on the table, MI could flip.

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Well, 5% covers both the Bradley effect and the natural GOP voter suppression activities. These two will definitely be in that range, maybe a little less.

But going into general with a "healthy" 3-4% lead is not a winning strategy for Obama.

"Natural GOP voter suppression activities." I love it. It's a fact of nature, like the leaves changing.

So he believes pollsters now.
"Them Polls Is Wrong!
By Billy Glad - September 16, 2008, 12:22PM

Them polls is wrong and I can prove it. Pollsters don't know what they are doing. They don't have the esoteric knowledge to say what's going on in them states the way I do.

Them pollsters don't know how new voters are registering and how some of them even have cell phones. Them dumb professional pollsters don't know how to figure out the esoteric stuff that is so obvious to me. They should have asked me.

Not worth the time, unless time is all you have, to exchange with this guy in the hat. Just messing with us - making knee jerk statements - sort of like his hero, McGain. Needs to get out more.

Dewey, you're going to have to confer with the cat disguised as a rabbit on that particular blog. He got it. You didn't. Think of the ramifications of being less astute than a perpetually startled cat. For your penance, 5 minutes outside the echo chamber.

We'll see on election day, won't we? Fifty cents says you're wrong.

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Bill, I disagree.

First of all, Obama can't be seen running to and fro at McCain's beck and call. That is an abolute non-starter.

Second, Bush asking Obama to the white house reinforces the McCain/Bush connection, which ties in directly to Obama's message, and is toxic to McCain.

Finally, it is unescapable that a significant number of people will see this as McCain being scairt of Obama. That is the WORST possible thing - for a tough navy hero POW to run from a Harvard latte sipper. It's just unseemly, and McCain's TRUE gamble is that the "he's running" narrative won't take hold.

McCain is too much of a gambler, not in frequency, but in quality. He doesn't look at his downsides, ever, just his upsides. Gamblers like that go broke quick.

Yeah. Except Obama is running to Washington at McCain's call. That's McCain's meeting Obama is going to. The McCain is running narrative doesn't have a chance. If people aren't already terrified by the dimensions of this financial crisis, they will be by noon tomorrow.

We'll be having a rainstorm here for the next couple of days. Screws up the visual of Obama walking pride in hand into the White House.

Obama has made it clear he is not staying in Washington, he's going to Mississippi.

McCain doesn't work weekends.

People are way more angry than they are scared (to their detriment I am afraid) I don't think McCain has decided which way he even wants to go with this.


No it isn't McCain's meeting and I don't think the public is seeing it as such.

Then they're misinformed. Nothing new there. Nope. McCain called for the meeting. The White House acknowledged it would be helpful, and then Bush sent out the invitations. McCain's meeting all right. Clap the man. He's getting this done. If it ruins him politically, it's too bad. But that's the chance he took. He's always said he'd sacrifice his career for the country. Maybe he has.

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McCain might be able to bamboozle people into thinking "its McCain's meeting" despite the fact that it was Bush who made the invite in a prime time speech but McCain will never overcome the hardening public opinion that this is yet another example of his shoot from the hip, fly off the handle maverickyness. Enough people saw this as a stunt as soon as it came out of his mouth making it near impossible for him to claim whatever credit on the economy he is struggling to grab.

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Perhaps it is McCain's meeting, that's not clear to me. What IS clear is that Obama said "no" to McCain, and "yes" to Bush. I think that's enough of a firewall to avoid looking like a summoned waiter.

Pat Buchanan just said "McCain is trying to avoid the debates, because he doesn't want to debate". So the thought is out there. The "scairt" meme is going to stick, I think, aided by the recent trend of assuming McCain is lying. The Letterman snafu didn't help, it just looked like "McCain lied again".

This was all avoidable, Schmidt and McCain have simply been too aggressive, while completely lacking in the subtlety dept.

If I recall, Buchanan was the guy who first tried the McCain was too damaged by torture to be President, about the time he was trying Laura Bush killed a friend in an auto accident. Letterman? It would have been inappropriate for McCain to go on a late night comedy show in the middle of the financial crisis. Had he gone we'd be hearing oh it's a crisis but he goes on Letterman.

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Ahaha, touche on the Buchanan thing. Buchanan is no moral bellwether. But he has his following, and his bully pulpit.

Letterman wasn't bad because he bailed, it was bad because it looked like he lied about it (whether or not he did). If you're going to drop engagements because you're rushing to D.C., don't stop and chat with Katie Couric, mosey on by the Clinton initiative, etc.

He actually said he'd go back after he spoke at the Clinton Initiative. Couric is supposed to be a news show, not entertainment. Letterman took some cheap shots. Maybe because Olberman was there. I wonder if he knows his audience better than Oprah knew hers. I think we like to believe our celebrities are fair people. I don't watch the talk shows.

The White House put out a statement saying that McCain called for the meeting and they deemed it a good idea. It's utterly shocking, I tell you, that a Republican white house would be working in conjunction with a Republican candidate for President to make things look better for him. Shocking. The masses will never catch on, in fact, it's so sneaky.

It's the power of the incumbent. I'm like McCain better all the time. He's running against us, that do nothing Congress that couldn't stop the war or defend our civil rights, the Bush administration, the prior Republican Congress, the Republican Party, the MSM and the liberal blogosphere -- and now Pat Buchanan. He must be doing something right.

Hell, he's a busy man. Let's add one more person he's campaigning against while we're at it: himself.

The last two weeks of his campaign have been like watching that point where a multiple personality finally breaks. One wonders if in the end, he'll be able to reconcile all his various selves, you know, like they do in the movies.

Let's hope it's not four years from now that he finally works it out.

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It always goes on and they are quite good at it. We loose about 2-3% to it every election cycle.

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Response to "DF", above.

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Response to "DF", above.

Oh, I'm not contesting that. I'm well aware of it. I was just reveling in the particular turn of phrase.

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let me get this straight, you think getting credit for making the deal on the bailout is a good thing ???

If the bailout gets passed and signed, McCain gets credit.

do you know ANYBODY who is supporting this shit ???

I already called my congresscritter and told him if the bailout passes I'm voting for his opponent in November

I don't CARE if he votes for it

if it passes, the democrats in congress are a heard of sheep that can be fooled by ANY liar

if this passes, EVERY INCUMBENT HAS TO GO

VOTE THEM OUT

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So, the financial markets will be closed, for the entire weekend, hours before the Friday night presidential debate is slated to commence.

Are Cindy's jets all out of jet fuel, so that McCain can not fly to the debate, and be back in Washington later on Friday.

What the hell is he going to do about the financial bailout on Friday night.

McCain is looking ridiculous.


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Poor Billy Glad be needing some more of that virtual viagra.

Habituated much?

This isn't the first time his alter ego has pulled a premature withdrawl:

"Still, just last week, the McCain campaign was openly derisive of Bush's reluctance to commit to a California debate -- and promised its own candidate would be there.

``John McCain believes it's important for the people of California to see and hear the candidates talk about the issues,'' McCain communications director Dan Schnur told The Chronicle last week. ``Thirty- three million Californians are worth that attention . . . and we'll be there, either way.''

As recently as Thursday, when he was in California, McCain was talking about his plans to debate Bush; even last night, McCain's own Web site listed his California debate- watching parties. The CNN-Los Angeles Times debate was the only scheduled head-to-head meeting of the two candidates in California before the primary, a week from tomorrow.

McCain's campaign said the candidate confirmed to CNN on Thursday that he would not appear. But until yesterday afternoon, when rumors swirled about the pullout, McCain -- who has touted his ``straight talk'' politics -- gave no public indication that he intended to duck the nationally televised showdown.

The bait and switch on the debate left the Arizona senator -- whose favorite campaign line is ``I'll always tell you the truth'' -- wide open to blistering criticism from his rivals.

``Clearly, this is more double-talk from the McCain campaign,'' said Alixe Mattingly, a spokeswoman for Bush. ``Pulling out of this debate at the last minute is an indication that they're pulling out of California, where McCain's antagonistic message clearly isn't working.''
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2000/02/28/MN62687.DTL&hw=mccain+opinsky&sn=001&sc=1000

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Well you have to understand where Billy is coming from. According to Billy, McCain is always doing the right thing, and Obama is always doing the wrong thing, but Billy assures us that he wants Obama to be the next President. Sure he does. You believe him don't you? Why wouldn't you. Of course he is really backing the one who never does anything right, and is not backing the one that he thinks is always doing every thing just right.

Isn't that how you vote. You always vote for the one who you claim has done every thing wrong.

I guess that is why Bob Bullock and Billy fell in love with their little turdblossom nourished shrub.

Your sharp mind is all the stimulation I need, my little femnazi, lally.