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Elephant in the room and other thoughts


First, I am neither thrilled nor horrified by the Obama campaign's strategy and tactics to this point.  Anyone can have an opinion on such things, and I doubt much can be proved about what works.  The "ground game," get out the vote, etc., is much easier to quantify (and control), and so is worth devoting lots of resources to, as I'm glad to see Obama is doing.

I have no problem with people posting suggestions as to improved strategy.  But we need to be clear-headed about a major factor in this election that neither Obama nor we can do anything about, that's in poll results, and will be there on election day, before we demoralize ourselves and each other.

The simple fact is that a large but unknown number of Americans, White, but also Hispanic and Asian, simply will not vote for a black person for president.  An even larger number might, but blackness is a negative for them, greater or smaller.  This second group is open to persuasion, and in fact how many are persuaded will decide the election.  That's what the campaign, and all of us where we can, have to do.  But best case, many will not be persuaded.

While Obama's blackness obviously helps him with Blacks and a few others, the net effect is certainly negative and large.  The idea I've heard that racists are all hard-core Republicans anyway is ludicrous.  Anyone who's ever spent time with large numbers of non-liberal intellectual White Americans in the suburbs of typical blue states knows this as well as I.  I'm 42, and was raised in a mostly Jewish neighborhood in an outlying part of New York City (Queens).  The level of racism among kids I knew (down to a few years younger than me) would probably shock some people here.  The "N" word was a standard way to refer to black people (older folks said "schvartze").  The overwhelming majority simply believed that black people were genetically inferior, and particularly less intelligent and more violent.  They were disliked if not hated, and feared.  There might be some "good ones," and you might even vote for one, but in general they were threatening, both personally and politically.  My friends and I were no worse certainly, than our parents, but no better either.  Our grandparents were a bit worse.  I'm not so in touch with these people anymore, but I've no doubt most have not changed their views substantially.  The Catholic kids in nearby neighborhoods were at least as bad.  And everything I've learned since says that the same is true in Detroit, and St. Louis, and whoknowswhere, Pennsylania, and all across all the swing states.  The under 30 crowd seems better, but they certainly have their racists too, and they're a minority of voters.

My point in all this is that Obama can certainly win, but he's not going to win big, and he's not going to open a big lead in the polls, even if he runs the most brilliant campaign ever.  So we can't expect it, and shouldn't run around in circles screaming about how his campaign sucks when it doesn't happen.  His campaign needs to be better than Kerry's just to eke out a victory.  Under the circumstances, 52% would be a landslide.

So let's work hard and push the campaign to be better.  But keep our expectations grounded in reality.


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"The simple fact is that a large but unknown number of Americans, White, but also Hispanic and Asian, simply will not vote for a black person for president." Well maybe but you pose the statement in a way as to sugest it is diferent for blacks and that is just you being a racist.
Blaks are just as capable of voting for Obama because he is black as maybe some ignorant white people may be for not voting for him because he is black. The point is that both groups are rasist but you mention only one side. I hope we in America have come to where we see past sex color and or sexual preference and even age. The truth is we have not and your coments here prove that as does the constent attacks on Sara Palin becuase she is a woman. How sad for all of us that there are still people like you and so many other liberals that seem to think a woman is only a wooman if she is a liberal and for some ignorant white, black asian or people of any race that believe skin color has anything to do with ability or value. A human being is a human being and should be respected gaged and measured as such by their acheivements and contributions to thier family, comunity and to there nation. To ban Americans are not a little more grown up.

Please remind me again why Obama is our candidate? Wasn't all of this true when we chose him to run against McCain? Sorry. I'm not buying this excuse.

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Yes, it was all true. If you agree it was true, as you appear to, how is it an "excuse"?

He's the candidate because, despite the negative effect of unstated racial bias, Democrats taking part in the primary process endorsed him as such.
Are you seriously suggesting Clinton's "he can't win" argument should have carried the day?
Because that's just an excuse for forever disqualifying any black presidential nominee, whatever his or her qualifications.
He hasn't won yet, but my money would still be on him proving you and Hillary wrong.

So, is this an "I told you so" comment?

my comment above was meant as a response to Billy Glad.

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