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Rick Warren claims Saakashvili Called HIM! YESTERDAY!

Crosspost Courtesy of  DailyKos user: Nicki6772

Warren was on Sean Hannity's radio show this afternoon and avoided all questions pertaining to who he was picking for President, but was more than happy to find ways to criticize Obama.  Before he ended his little appearance, he announced, that he had received a personal phone call from Georgian President Saakashvili.

I SAID WHAT?

Warren went on to tell Hannity that Saakashvili had called him Sunday to inform him that he had seen the Faith Forum Saturday night and it made him cry and that he appreciated everything Warren had done for him by mentioning the war and the poor Georgians.  According to Warren, Saakashvili mentioned that it is the great awaking of "The Bear" and that we cannot forget about the Georgians.

Warren then proceeded to go into a request to Sean Hannity that we find a way to help the Georgians and to not stop talking about them.  Hannity of course agreed to this request and went into his own dissertation about "The New Cold War".

Now I'm not a foreign policy expert by any means, but 2 questions came to mind after I heard this.

  1.  Isn't Saakashvili a little busy dealing with an invasion?  I would assume he has better things to do than to sit around and watch CNN and watch a Religious guy like Warren ask our presidential candidates about matters of faith.
  1.  If Saakashvili really had that much time on his hands in a war zone, what interest does he really have in actually calling Warren himself and thanking him personally for mentioning his country?

This is disturbing on all fronts.  Most of all, I think it is bogus.  So are our news media that hell bent on making this about the next coming of the "Great Bear" Russia and the Cold War? It really blows my mind to think that the media has to fabricate lies in order to conjure up scary images.

It makes me sick to think of the audiences these people have.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/beleaguered-president-gambler-who-risked-his-country-and-links-with-west-891500.html

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Comments (19)

If true, it's proof positive that Saakashvili is playing to the American media something fierce. This is smelling more and more like a tail wagging the dog story.

I'm with you, Jonze.

Agreed.

You'd think that a person that violated his own cease-fire, seiged an informally-autonomous city, and then lost an embarrassingly-thought-out war would have other, more important things to do than worry about US political-tainment.

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The Times of London had an interesting article that exposed the fact that there was a Belgian PR team in place in Tbilisi providing reporters with information:

"Tiny Georgia was far more adroit in the battle for public opinion than its Russian adversary. It had set up the media centre to allow instant reporting from close to the front line, while the Russian Army tightly controlled access to South Ossetia, making it difficult to report its actions. Indeed, if the Georgian Army had been as aggressive as its public relations campaign then the war for South Ossetia might have ended very differently."

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"Mr Saakashvili was flanked by the Georgian and European Union flags, even though Georgia is not a member. The message was clear – Georgia was aligning itself with the West against its former Soviet master.

As foreign correspondents poured into Tbilisi a team of Belgian PR advisers launched a slick operation to keep them updated with e-mail alerts detailing the latest alleged aggressions by Russia and the Georgian Government’s reaction. On Sunday, for example, more than 20 e-mails went out to shape Georgia’s message that Russia had launched an invasion.

Some of the claims veered into outright exaggeration – such as stating that Russian jets were “intensively bombing Tbilisi” or that Russian troops had taken Gori – but the 24-hour news culture meant that many organisations repeated them without independent verification. "

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4518254.ece

Interesting catch, lally; thanks. Interesting especially as I remember reading this: Before the Gunfire, Cyberattacks. Good line from that: The phrase “a wilderness of mirrors” usually describes the murky world surrounding opposing intelligence agencies. It also neatly summarizes the array of conflicting facts and accusations encompassing the cyberwar now taking place in tandem with the Russian fighting in Georgia.

And why is Warren on Hannity in the first place? That tells you everything you need to know about Warren's intentions and the Saddleback Forum in general.

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Another lie from Warren, he now can say whatever, he lost his credibility after his lie from the debate. Shame on you Warren...

MUST WATCH: CNN captures Saakashvili eating his own tie. This guy is seriously unstable. Echoes of Chalabi, anyone?

http://wonkette.com/401976/georgian-president-eats-his-tie-ha-ha

I don't know how much of it is true, but I do think Saakashvili is a little unstable and, frankly, hysterical. Plus, I think it's obvious that the most important thing for him now is to keep Georgia story on top of the headlines. Once the headlines go away, Putin will go in, and Saakaskhvili knows it. That's why he ordered Biden to get on the plane and will beg anyone with influence.

it's true. other bearing witness in the comments section of the particular Dailykos diary.

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On CNN yesterday, Richard Holbrooke (from Tbilisi) was voiciferously defending Saakshvili and claiming that he couldn't possibly have planned the attack on South Ossetia because he was at a fat farm in Italy at the time.

The rest of the world regards Saakashvili as a twit. According to a recent Israeli column, he volunteered to come to Haifa during the stupid summer war of '06. Hezbollah was rocketing the damn place at the time, killing rail workers and barely missing a chemical storage tank.

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aa.

Thanksahelluvalot! ;>)

For your link as I followed Israeli net security expert poobah Gadi Evron and was sucked into the formerly unkown world of netbots...........

Evron has a blog discussing of the recent cyberevents re Georgia and links to others in his line of work who have also been tracking them.

A general consensus seems to be that no one knows who started the attacks (not likely the Russian government) and that the campaign went viral among volunteer partisans.

Fun stuff.

Gadi Evron's blog:
http://www.circleid.com/members/1797/

More fun:
http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20080813

Enjoy.

Does Hannity have his own website and can we find a transcript of this little encounter?

Did anyone watch Warren on Larry King last night?

Rick Warren is working hard to fill the shoes of Jerry Falwell. I was amazed at how Condoleezza Rich just stood there, while Saakashvili ridiculed the West for allowing the Russian Bear to wake from hibernation. He wasn’t completely wrong about that, but he is playing the US like a fiddle!

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"Pastor" Warren is a proven liar and cheat. Who cares what he says about anything?

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What would Jesus think of "Pastor" Warren?

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hey this is no big deal Saaki phones me whenever one of his favorites gets booted off "American Idol" too.

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I still firmly belive that a lot this Georgia/Russia thing was cooked up by the McCain people. I mean Scheunemann is a lob for Georgia, McCain gets to puff himself up even more and try to look "presidential" and tough and NOW Warren says that Georgia's Saakashvili called him. He's a liar. The whole McCain campaign is lying about EVERYTHING

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"Warren’s forum reeked of an attempt to force social conservatism to the forefront of an election where socially conservative issues are on the back burner. Cable news networks and Obama enthusiastically ran interference for an ambitious play by Warren to shape the political discussion. Time will tell if the tactic worked (and I’m not sure it will, conservatism really is in big trouble this year), but the fact that the media and Obama enabled the play is troubling enough." - more at queertoday.com. Totally true.

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