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McCain's Nuclear Meltdown

As many of you know, John McCain has called for the building of 45 brand new nuclear power plants in the United States.

For those that remember, McCain gave a speech on April 23, 2007, and then continued to repeat the statement that,

We've let the fears of thirty years ago, and an endless political squabble over the storage of nuclear spent fuel make it virtually impossible to build a single new plant that produces a form of energy that is safe and non-polluting. If France can produce 80% of its electricity with nuclear power, why can't we?

The full text of that speech can be found here, taken straight from his own website.

It seems to me that John McCain is under the assumption that France's nuclear power plants are 100% safe. But as we are now seeing, France has had a recent bout of leaks from its nuclear power plants. To quote from the article:

Weeks before, on July 18, France reported its second radioactive leak in a month. Officials said uranium may have leaked for years from a cracked pipe at a plant in southeast France owned by Areva SA. Earlier in July, Paris-based Areva, the world's largest nuclear-reactor maker, closed part of a waste- treatment plant after discovering a uranium leak and radioactive pollution.

McCain spokesman Taylor Griffin said such incidents don't worry the candidate.

``Given our country's stellar record of safety in both the commercial and military sectors, we can be assured of the safety of U.S. nuclear power now and in the future,'' Griffin said.

This is on top of McCain's statement on July 22nd that,

    We have been sailing nuclear ships around the world for 60 years, never had an accident...

As the same Bloomberg article quoted above states,

    Only two days later, the Navy disclosed that one of its nuclear submarines, the USS Houston, had been leaking radioactive coolant for two years as it called on ports in Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Guam and Hawaii. The incident is part of a spate of nuclear accidents on land and sea that may undermine McCain's message.

Despite these issues, McCain has no worries or fears. This is without mention that there is still no properly safe way to dispose of nuclear waste. Obama has already been hitting McCain on this very issue with his Yucca Mountain ad. As I heard on NPR today, this is an issue that France has been struggling with, as it's begun running out of places to store the waste. Rural areas that once allowed storage are refusing to do so.

It makes sense then, considering France's growing concerns over its nuclear program, that McCain has stopped mentioning and touting the France example that he used back in that speech from April, 2007.

I must ask, what exactly is McCain thinking? Expanding out nuclear power is one thing. Obama has proposed it on a much smaller scale. But building 45 new plants by 2030? Does McCain really have any grasp on the idiocy of such a project?

Let us not even mention the cost. According to MarketWatch and the Wall Street Journal, estimates are of building a new nuclear power plant would be anywhere between $5 and $12 billion, far above previous estimates. That's only one new plant. On the low end, and assuming that every power plant cost only $5 billion, that's a whopping $225 billion. And as we can likely assume, the cost would be much, much higher. How, I ask, does McCain intend to pay for these 45 new nuclear plants? Raising taxes? Certainly not. He's a fiscal conservative.

I'm not even going to go in-depth with the fact that market competition for nuclear power is practically nonexistent, and so the Government has had to greatly subsidize nuclear energy. If you want, you can read more over at Salon. But again, more and more Government subsidies? Fiscal conservatism at its best.

There's probably a lot more information out there. I'm only giving the small amount I found. I found it in less than an hour, and going mostly on a hunch (and educated guessing) about the issues with and costs of expanding our nuclear power industry.

In a nutshell, McCain's nuclear proposal is absolute bollocks. For all the reasons I've given, and probably many, many more.


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It's kinda my first piece of "investigative reporting" or whatever one can call it. I hope it's decent. I don't ever do this, but if you enjoyed the piece, please recommend. Thanks in advance. =)

Also, they don't really know how to build them reliably:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/07/nrc-no-reliable-designs-or-cos.php

Our bridges collapse and our cranes collapse but they want government money to build more nukes.

Wow, Donal. Thanks for that. That's a brilliant compliment to my points. Your points there absolutely bolster mine, especially on the cost aspect.

I think many people fail to look at the actual numbers. If I were a McCain voter, I'd seriously want to know how he intends to pay for all these new plants. Even though I'm not a McCain voter, I want to know. It just doesn't make sense, and he provides no realistic solvency for the inherent problems with nuclear power.

Assuming he wins, John McCain would be a stuffed exhibit at his own library by 2030. What does he care?

That's the problem; he probably doesn't. But we, the voters and citizens who will be alive when he's a stuffed exhibit, should care. I know I do. I'll be around long after he's gone.

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More reckless McCain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9L3kEQXjrU

Check WOWEnergies of Texas. They install secondary and tertiary heat exchangers in industrial smokestacks. The typical capture of wasted heat, if applied to all smokestacks in the country, would total about 200 gigawatts, or close to that number of nuclear plants. In other words, 3 or 4 times the proposed nuclear capacity goes up the chimney as wasted heat. Kind of like tire pressure.

That's really quite interesting. I seriously wonder what McCain would say if he was asked about that...

A convenient side benefit of the reduced smokestack temps, down to about 100 F instead of 450, is that heavy metals simply rain out.

Bring back New Source Review.

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Terrific blog, Nathan. Rec'd.
This is such a crucial issue - I wish the campaign would run with it more. Especially given how all McCain's emphasis is on private ownership. Safety held hostage to the profit motive.
I also wish the Dems were shouting across the rooftops to people, before you vote for nuclear energy, think about whether or not you'd be prepared to have the waste in your backyard.

Has Senator McCain ever heard of Rocky Flats in Colorado. You can't sell that bs here? Been there done that. Can you believe that they turned the place into a wildlife refuge... Outrageous!

Seriously McCain is wrong on water and energy in Colorado. Obama can win Colorado if he is smart. I would say that a majority of us like our environment regardless of party or politics.

Can you believe that they turned the place [Rocky Flats] into a wildlife refuge...

Well, a higher mutation rate does increase the speed of evolution.

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The reality of France's aggressive nuclear power push
By Mycle Schneider
Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
3 June 2008

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"Hey you damn hippie kids get off my lawn with your no nukes bullshit ..."
Very good post Nathan -
France too - has for years been dumping spent radioactive cores etc off their military base in the Horn of Africa littoral zone-out from their base there in Diboutji . A whole lot of spent fuel rods and other glowing crap got washed ashore by the Great Tsunami ..
You are right we should be able to destroy Team McCain with this issue in Neveda - re Yucca Mountain...

All potential hazards aside, what will be the cost of power generated from such nuclear plants considering the cost of construction, maintenance and waste disposal ? Will it be affordable ?

Great question, and I don't have an answer off the top of my head. But I will definitely research and try to get back to you on it. If anyone else has the numbers, posting them would be greatly appreciated.

It's fine to say no nukes, but what is the real alternative? Those nuclear plants in France never killed anyone. In contrast, thousands die in the US every year from the effects of pollution from conventional power plants.

There are plenty of safe alternatives that can be used instead of nuclear.

And listen, nuclear power is not a bad thing inherently. McCain's plan of 45 new plants is. There are plenty of pluses to using nuclear power, especially as a segue into cleaner, less hazardous forms of renewable energy, but McCain's plan is just ludicrous.

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Good post! Read this for a little more analysis of the "80%" quote: http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/mccain-calls-for-700-new-nuclear-plants-and-7-yucca-mountains-costing-4-trillion/

McCain is just making it up as he goes along...

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Of course, McCain is not worried. He will be dead by the time the first new plant is up and running.
Just where does he think these plants will be built. This is one of those ideas some people support as long as it's not in their backyard. Until we figure out how to dispose of the waste, it's nuts to propose this as a solution.

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The lack of safety is the most important negative of nuclear power plants, including the often ignored fact that they are convenient potential targets for terrorists.

But the bottom line, financially speaking, is that they just don't make sense because they are far too expensive to build and operate.

And they you have to dispose of the waste, somehow - probably the biggest expense of all in the long run.

Of course, McBush, like his namesake, doesn't care about the long run.

Did John McCain really advocate following France's footsteps?

Numerous times. ...I know, right?!

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Good work on the Fact finding Chrono. Rec'd.

As usual, very excellent stuff Chrono. Thanks for taking the time. I do love Griffin's "stellar" safety records comment! Too much.

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Nuclear power is a bad thing inherently. There's nothing to do with the residuals that don't pollute somewhere, you can't afford to make any mistakes, you can't afford any accidents, etc. These are all inherent problems. And the French export all of their residuals as I had understood it, to Russia; they have found no solutions to the residuals storage problems either.

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