Well, look at you! Your little whine about not getting "Most Recommended" worked! Congrats!

Were you ever a POW?

But are you? Just kidding, Lalo. ;)

Can you think of any other Democratic nominee in the position of having endorsed the Republican opponent?

But hey, she only endorsed McCain on video. Lieberman is endorsing McCain in person at the convention. She's not as bad as Lieberman so what do Obama supporters have to complain about?

Because her lips were moving?

From that article:

Clinton’s team immediately dubbed the ad misleading. "Hillary Clinton's support of Barack Obama is pretty clear,” said Clinton spokeswoman Kathleen Strand. “She has said repeatedly that Barack Obama and she share a commitment to changing the direction of the country, getting us out of Iraq, and expanding access to health care. John McCain doesn't. It's interesting how those remarks didn't make it into his ad."

Her support is "pretty clear" huh? Mostly clear, anyway. Not 100% clear but relatively speaking, pretty clear, more or less.

Notice how the response is only about how she and Barack "share a commitment." Not a single attempt to retract the earlier statement about Obama not being qualified to be Commander In Chief.

Maybe she still believes it, like Lieberman. You couldn't tell otherwise from what she's said about it.

I love how you try to purport such negativity towards Clinton supporters to me, when I've never expressed such for the way they feel. I suggest if you truly want me to understand you that you don't do that anymore.

Listen, you can be pissed all you want that Obama didn't pick your candidate for his running mate. But that's his decision. Why should he have to bend to her will like that? I mean, honestly. He won, fair and square. It was his decision to make.

You say you've has to listen to Clinton supporters be denigrated. Obama supporters have had to listen to a constant barrage of shit from Clinton supporters as well. I'm sorry, but it runs both ways.

What can't be avoided is that Obama won. Clinton did not. She did, however, endorse him and she is supporting him. I saw it first hand at the Unity Rally. You don't have to follow your candidate and support Obama. That's fine. It's your choice.

But don't you dare tell me that she was in any way entitled to be Obama's running mate. She's no more entitled to that than she is the Presidency itself, and if you can't get over that fact, then I truly feel sorry for you.

Maybe you should read this: http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/08/why-has-noone-discussed-this-w.php

You can reply if you so desire, but I refuse to have a back-and-forth shit-throwing party with you. You feel she was entitled to the Presidency, and then to the Vice Presidency. I respectfully disagree, and I personally think she'll be better served in the Senate, rather than in a position not worth a bucket of warm piss.

Obama won the nomination, and with the nomination the ability to choose his own Vice President, not the Vice President you want him to have, nor even the one I want him to have.

In any event, I truly wish you the best of luck in sorting out your feelings regarding these issues. They're tough ones.

My sympathy started running very low about a week into Obama vs. McCain. For months I have read about my empty-headedness and cultishness, my voter disenfranchisement, my robbing Clinton of what was rightfully hers, my playing the race card, my being sexist. It is not just you being victimised here. You all can take a bit of the blame for this mess yourselves, too.

Anyway.

Sorry your candidate lost, genuinely. I think her supporters should be heard--and have been--in setting the Democratic agenda. But she did not and does not belong on the ticket simply because the ticket must be able to work together and for various reasons, valid or invalid, Obama and Clinton would not have been able to. They would have never made a good team.

That is, I think, where reasonable and unreasonable wishes of the Clinton supporters are separated: the former attempt to carry on her policies, the latter concentrate on her person.

So, I happily welcome your participation if you offer reasonable, constructive policy ideas and other input where you think Obama needs help. Just leave the vessel at the door. Oh, and mind the anti-Clinton idiots. They are pretty easy to jump over.

I think what many people are having a hard time understanding is how upset feelings over Hilary not being the Presidential nominee and then further hurt feelings over her being passed over for vice-president translate into any kind of logical rationale for her supporters to vote for John McCain, who surely does not represent their supposed political beliefs and positions. Is this merely a popularity contest, some kind of American Idol cult of personality contest? Or are we attempting to select a person who comes closest to our political and practical beliefs. Those of us who are not former Hilary supporters begin to see it as some kind of irrational vendetta and childish revenge to say that you would even consider for two nanoseconds voting or a man like McCain who so thoroughly goes against progressive/liberal positions. We expect for the Clintons, who are supposed to be savvy politicians, to understand that when you show so obviously your lack of support of the man who beat you fair and square, then you will come across as being spoiled and entitled children, instead of responsible adults willing to put the needs of our country above personal ambition.

The only reason any of Hillary's supporters are voting for McCain is because of Hillary. She is the one who, rather than campaigning against a worthy Democratic foe, jumped ship and compared herself and MCCain as better than Obama. She didn't have to do that. She did it. She is poison; then Bill comes out with his, "Can anyone be ready to be president?" bullshit. Obama would have been crazy to have billary in his administration -- what a toxic couple.

Obama owes her nothing. She also dragged out the primaries far beyond what was reasonable to keep the party from coalescing behind its nominee. Why? Ego. Money. Who knows? It sure wasn't for the good of the party, or because of sound judgement.

She will never be president; I hope she doesn't even get re-elected to the Senate.

When were the rules changed so that the runner-up is automatically granted the Vice Presidency? Since none of us were privy to the conversations between Senator Obama and Senator Clinton, we don't know if she even wanted to be considered.

This election is not about hurt feelings - it's about the future of our country.

I sugeest since you can't find reasons to support Obama and his policies which are nearly that of your gal Clinton, then move on over and join the republicans. Vote mcCan't ....feel good about yourself and know that you are doing what you feel is best for your and this planet's future! I have not one ounce of energy or time for you and when you are officially out supporting Mccan't...just think about how just joined the Cro-Magnam party!

Hey, we hear ya. Hillary supporters deserve all the coddling us "Deaniacs" got back in 2004, when your girl was working really hard behind the scenes to make sure the party stayed in establishment hands. In a way it's ironic - they used up their "this outsider/new guy can't win the election so we better nominate this boring insider guy who can" cred back in that election, and so it didn't work so well for them this time around. How well I remember the legion of Dean supporters who threw tantrums when their preferred candidate wasn't chosen as Kerry's running mate - all those idealistic kids who went over and voted for Bush en masse, so disappointed were they that the party disrespected their candidate.

In short, grow the hell up and recognize that your candidate's quixotic death-march to the very end of the primaries represented nothing so much as the last-gasp efforts of the reigning party establishment trying desperately to hold onto control of the party. Why do you think they started pushing Bayh as a VP - a zero to add to a ticket if there ever was one - so hard once it became clear that Obama wasn't going to be foolish enough to let the disorganization of the Clinton circus drag his chances for winning into a deep dark hole? Do you really not see the impossibility of placing on the ticket a VP candidate who only a few short months ago referred to our nominee as "not meeting the CIC threshold" - while at the same time suggesting that his Republican opponent does? How did you plan to answer the ads McCain would have been running in heavy rotation featuring the video of those words issuing from the mouth of Obama's running mate?

So spare us the wail about how we need to balm your "feelings". Out of the 7 presidential elections in which I have been eligible to vote, only ONCE has the candidate of MY choice ever won the nomination....but being an adult, I never considered that a good reason to vote for Reagan, or Bush I, or Dole, or George W. Bush, and it damn sure isn't a good enough reason to vote for McCain. And no one kissed my ass and apologized to me for not selecting who I thought was the best nominee. This isn't an election for homecoming queen, you know. The person who wins this thing will be making decisions that actually affect people's lives. If Obama did not believe that an Obama/Hillary ticket would be a winning one, that the complications of having Bill hanging around would be a nightmare, or for whatever reason that Hillary did not represent the best person to campaign alongside him, then it was entirely his perogative to select someone else. I don't want our nominee fighting with one hand tied behind his back, even if that's what it would take to soothe your hurt "feelings". I want to win. And I think we have a better chance to do that when our nominee has the person he wants with him on the ticket, even if you and battalions of others like you choose to throw a tantrum and vote for the guy who thinks you shouldn't have a right over your own body, that if you're having a hard time paying your mortgage it's because you're a deadbeat, and that what this country needs is another war.

We heard so much in the primaries about "women's issues" and how this formed the base of Hillary's hard-core support. And now a full quarter of those women are prepared to watch their families suffer and their kids get packed off to another war, all to "show us" how upset they are? Well, fuck them. They aren't Democrats and never have been, and there's no reason why, as such, we should kowtow to their wishes.

Life is hard. Get a fucking helmet. And then grow the fuck up and do what's in the best interest of you and your family. Somehow I suspect that most of those who share your feelings should have learned at age 5 that tantrums don't get you what you want. Guess what? It doesn't work when you're an adult, either. So good luck with that "strategy" and don't say a fucking word about the horrors of the McCain administration to any of us when and if you get what it is you think you want - revenge. Because as they say, karma, she is a bitch.

Chrono, she got almost half the votes.

There is a technical term for a politician who gets almost half the votes. The term, adopted by political analysts across the country and around the world, is "loser."

Us? Would that be Hillary supporters who can't accept her loss of the nomination? Why can't you? Are you still pissed that Al Gore actually had the national election stolen? Or Kerry? What are you doing about those injustices?

Or is it just Hillary, the perpetual victim?

Who is "Us?" Define yourselves, please.