You Hillary dead-enders have grown not merely tiresome, but fucking pathetic.

You remind me of a junior high school dumpee.

No, asshole, I'm a Democrat.

Period.

I support my party's candidate.

If you can't handle that, then fuck off. I have a zero-tolerance policy for jerk-offs who seek to undermine my country.

That's "feel" for Obama.

Here's a message to Lalo35adm: your subtle, manipulative and suggestive moral indignation is not worth the key strokes.

Lalo35adm:

I can understand your loyalty to HRC, but could you please enlighten me as to what you are attempting to achieve with all the negative (anti-Obama and his supporters) posts and comments? What is your goal? Thanks.

Perhaps he's trying to build awareness as to McCain's actions.

You still have not addressed the query regarding your goal.

It's puzzling why you feel the need to attempt to ridicule me personally. My goal is to achieve understanding of your messages and to have a positive dialogue. If you would prefer not to engage in a positive dialogue, that's your choice too. But, this would be acknowledging you don't believe there is a valid basis of your posts.

So, care to continue and have some positive discourse?

This post assumes Obama's campaign was about the Clintons' character assassination. So let me see... Obama told President Clinton to reduce Obama to a Black candidate; Obama told Senator Clinton to diminish Martin Luther King's contributions in deference to President Johnson; Obama made those Clinton staff spread rumors defaming Obama... And of course, Obama made Senator Clinton point out that white voters would vote only for her and not for Obama.

And of course, now Obama should go out and scream "shame on you John McCain!" and put out a "3 AM" ad, never mind his campaign promise to be a different kind of politician. If McCain breaks his promise, so should Obama.

Yes, I see very clear - how could I have been so stupid? Thanks, Lalo35adm, for showing me the light!

Lalo35adm, you are incoherent.

Go cry us a river.
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I am glad to see the person who thinks that those who do not make--term used loosely, it is mostly investment income after all--enough money to get in the top 10% income percentile (whom, according to you, are entitled to be given more money on the expense of the other 90%) is lecturing others about being "former progressives."

Fuck you.

Lalo35adm,
Your quote of the article did not capture its central point. The following is a better distillation:

Hence the questions on which the general election may turn: Will Obama be capable of withstanding the pummeling the McCain forces have begun to unleash? Or, as Hillary privately predicted, will he crumple like a paper doll?

I would agree with the premise that the Obama campaign led and clapped at the attack on the wholesale character assasination of Bill and Hillary Clinton, not to mention their supporters, during the primaries. As to whether Josh/TPM 'led' that, I can't say that I saw that here. I thought the staff played it fairly straight (with a lean to Obama) in their coverage. Just my opinion...

Publicola...

Well said and spot on...

Great Post...

"The wholesale character assasination of Bill and Hillary Clinton" --- what alternative universe are YOU living in? Or is quoting people accurately now "character assasination"? If you have so head so far up your butt about the Cliuntons, go help her pay off the debt she incurred when she persisted in a vanity campaign after she had lost.

The latest "Latest" from Josh Marshall only serves to reinforce the point:

"Latest (angry) McCain ad: (Black guy) Obama doesn't care about hispanics. "

What's up with the BLACK obsession Josh?? Why do you keep trying to drum up moral outrage?

You candidate tried a dual strategy to deal with his race:
- inject it himself to innoculate his campaign ("And did I mention that he's black?")
- take advantage of it by accusing everyone else of racism (Jackson, Clyburn, et al)

It backfired big time with the dollar bill bait that he so stupidly took. It's time to think about a better way to deal with it.

And yet, if I wasn't around long enough, I would have wondered by now why you constantly obsess about racism and seem unable to regroup, rethink and move on. Given your own position on charges of Clinton racism in SC, I'm sorry Josh, but you've become a joke without credibility.

Wait a minute people!

One cotton-picking second.

I wasn't born stateside and am often very surprised at the strange and unexpected ways race manifests itself in the native-born American psyche.

It often appears to be bubbling along just below the surface somewhere between consciosness and subconciosness in many an American.

It is undeniable that Obama's father's skin color makes a significant difference to many Americans in their choice of President.

Now, every time "race" is mentioned by anyone on either side, a whole hullabaloo erupts with everyone coming out with long, seemingly shop worn positions, as if they have been thinking about it for quite a while.

The accusation that "race has been injected" into the campaign is wholly innacurate and disengenuous for the campaign in the American elecorate - you can't inject something if it is already there.

The feighned outrage on either side is foolish as well - it only serves to reinforce the fake and fragile balance the whole issue of race has taken in the American society. On one side, the race has to be "ignored" in our "equal" society, on the other side it is on everyone's mind pretty much all of the time.

As someone who was not born here, I find that a social construct of "race" is something that most Americans who were raised here are keenly and sensitively aware of and affected by. There are compex social rules and symbols that you people are socialized into from an early age, like a secret handshakes of "race understanding". These secrets are different between different groups of Americans and since any real dialogue on these issues are really not allowed in the main stream these days, the dichotomy of race continues to divide this country.

For the record, Obama is biologically "bi-racial", with a mother who looks pretty lilly-white to me (but what do I know - since I go by skin color I have "wrongly considered" people's race divisions any number of times). This would place him in "no man's land" of America's unspoken racial divide.

I don't really think there is a "winning strategy" for his predicament. But talking clearly about it may be a good start.