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Whoa! Hidden Message in Obama's Faith Based Initiatives Message.

Man, my Obama implants have totally stopped working since the end of the primaries.  Our Leader sent us a hidden message in his speech about faith based initiatives that I did not instantly receive.  I actually had to break out my secret decoder ring and crack the code by hand. 

Specifically, he said:


And we'll also ensure that taxpayer dollars only go to those programs that actually work.

It really didn't register until just now.  He's actually saying he's going to stop funding the ones that don't work. 

Which, in turn, led me to wonder what programs Dubya's been funding under this rubric Obama could have had in mind when he said this.    

Well, as it happens, there is one very prominent, very expensive, part of the Deshider's faith bashed inishyutive program that has has been an utter, complete, abysmally counterproductive failure.  This administration has poured a billion frakking dollars into this program.  That billion has fattened the wallets of a number of the Administration's toadies and cronies and contributors, but, as far as results . . . well, let's just say that when they say "faith" they mean it in sense of "the exact opposite of empirical."  The more data comes in showing tht the programs funded by this initiative  are doing actual harm to those it is supposed to help, the more its proponents defend it and the more money it gets and the richer those who are feeding like ticks off the grants get.   

The initiative in question is, of course, that darling of the reality denying right, abstinence only education. 

A billion dollars and, surprisingly, it had no effect whatsoever on how many kids had sex.  So, of course, Bush spent even more on it. 

As we tizzy away over whether Obama is betraying the Revolution by espousing exactly the same policy positions he wrote about in his last book some two years ago, let us not forget that, above all, what we need in this country is a return to simple sanity in government.  A return, if you will, to a now only dimly remembered time days when believing that being batshit insane was not necessarily a positive qualification for public office was not considered controversial and unnecessarily provocative. 



Comments (29)

Nice catch - Abstinence only education is the BIGGEST waste of taxpayer dollars out there.

With all due respect, D. The Iraq war is far and away the biggest current waste of taxpayer dollars.

AOE is a big pork-hole, but it pales in comparison to the murdering, war-profiteering, keystone-kops-cum-imperialist exercise in futility that is the Iraq war.

Funny! 'Cuz that's actually where I thought Steve was going with this.

True - you got me there. Okay second biggest waste of dollars!

Abstinence programs vs. Hormones/pheremones. Another triumph by W., the gambler.

But wait. Before Obama can rid us of nonsensical drains on taxpayer dollars, there is that other troubling matter:
the resolution (with 220 co-sponsors, of whom 100 are Democrats) to approve a blockade of Iran.

Per international law, a blockade is an act of war. W. is doubling down.

We cannot allow this resolution to pass.

Suggestions? Solutions? ASAP.

Glad you had your decoder ring available, Formerly.

I'm not.

The whole point of secret messages is they're supposed to be @#%$ secret!

Loose lips sink ships. ;)

Here's the only proven effective abstinence only program ever found to work for girls, boys, gay, straight, everybody:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt1s6o-g8qM&feature=related

I think you're secretly attracted to them. The more you deny it, the more I'll know it's true! ;)

Bleeeeeeech there's a reason why Tucker Carlson is for repealing prostitution laws. Getting spitzered is his only shot ;)

There is no shortage of contestants for "second biggest waste of money by Bush and Republicans afer the war in Iraq." I haven't researched the match, but "money wasted on Medicare Part D due to their insistence on involving private insurers and refusing to negotiate with drug companies" and "additional interest on national debt caused by Bush tax cuts for rich people" have to be at the top.

But for sheer, mind-numbing, facially apparent, incontestable stupidity so huge it momentarily robs you of the power of speech, you simply cannot beat abstinence only education. A billion dollars. Not a huge part of the federal budget these days, but, still, a billion dollars. The list of really useful, important things we could have done with with that billion dollars is so long, it just sickens me.

And, yeah, the Iraq war would have been the obvious way to go with this one, but for the fact I'm totally serious. I really do think he's sending a coded message to America's tragically beleagured and ineffective health teachers, "hold on, help is on the way."

Beyond that, though, abstinence only educaton has, to my mind, always been one of the flashing red danger signals about the basically totalitarian mindset of the people in this administration. Orwell was right about totalitarian regimes and sex. (As he was about most things, actually. One of the intellectual heros of the twentieth century, Orwell was. Few appreciate how much he did, single handedly, with just his pen, to stem, or at least slow, the totalitarian tide simply by leading people to pay attention to it.)

Regardless of whether they are left, right, theocratic or atheistic, totalitarian regimes are invariably obsessed with sex and zealously seek to repress every last manifesation of sexuality and every form of sexual behavior beyond the minimum necessary to maintain reproduction. It's an inevitable outgrowth of the desire to meddle and control that marks the totalitarian mindset and essential to obtaining the kind of social control necessary to accomplish their other objectives. That's why abstinence only education has, in my mind, always been of a piece with their obsession with suppressing pornography and with gays and gay marriage.

And, of course, it's also a function of thoroughly diseased dirty-mindedness that seems to be pervasive among those who are most ostantatiously prudish.

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I don't think it's an obsession for control as much as a red herring for normal folk who are prudish about sex. Basically waving porn around in one hand and reaching for their wallet with the other.

... the point of AOE is not to change sexual behavior... it is to put money in the pockets of people who think that AOE is a good idea.... it injects money into the conservative ecosystem.... and the more AOE fails and produces more pregnancies... the more AOE educators and the conservative ecosystem rallies around AOE and the right.

It's a perfect system... nothing succeeds like failure.

That's the larger premise of disaster capitalism and the Iraq war.... failing creates reasons to keep on doing more of the same...

Abstinence education works because it produces pregnancies which create a need for more abstinence education. I love it.

I am so fucking disgusted that my secret radio did not work and I missed these hidden messages. I'm certain that he changed his frequency and did it specifically to keep me out!!!

What an outrage!!!

I ain't votin' for that guy. Also, did you know he's white?

Geeesh

YEAH!!1!!!1111!!!!!

Lawlz. ;D

Whoa! Nice one, man! I'm glad you had your secret decoder ring out!

Honestly, I don't see what the huge uproar over this whole thing is, anyway, and your finding only enforces my opinion on it.

Now if we could just ensure that recs only go to those posts that actually work. Like this one. Rec'd and not suggesting anything about the current rec list, which made for a good read today.

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Riiiight! and the $500,000,000 dollars that Obama proposes to "teach " faith based organizations how to apply for those federal funds is not a boondoggle? (in the same way his private/public housing developments in Chicago were a boondoggle for his friends). Get real. If faith based programs were going to solve our problems they would have done so by now having been around for 2000 years already. This is another warmed over repug idea that has failed and Obama has gotten behind.

The brilliance of your logic momentarily robs me of the power of speech.

I wasn't going to say the same thing.

You really are living up to your name on these comments. Born again indeed. Please provide a link to where Barack is proposing $500 million to simply teach religious institutions what federal dollars are available for social programs.

Also, I work in the non-profit community, which in turn works closely with many religious institutions to carry out their primary missions. The non-profit community is a $300 billion a year effort. More federal dollars and a caring cadre of good Samaritans can make a huge amount of difference to many worthwhile causes.

The work these religious organizations are doing on a shoe-string budget is rarely religious in nature. You demonize something that you clearly have no knowledge of.

Sounds like the liberal equivalent of Bush's 23-percenters.

You're right that abstinence programs don't work.

A Christian college recently had a spate of oral gonorrhea. As it turns out, the Christian kids had been channeling Bill Clinton: fellatio and cunnilingus aren't sex, right? Not in the biblical, missionary sense, right?

These kids are future republican lawyers.

Not just cunnilingus, my friends. Anal sex is on the rise among teens, for the same reason. The thinking apparently is that if it's anal, it doesn't count.

And no I'm not kidding.

That's right (don't worry, not graphic):
Future
Boys Can Wait

The sad thing is, the woman who did these got fired from PBS over them several years later.

Good catch, dear Steve. Perhaps this is simply a function of the fact that I am a pious Catholic, but I was never much distressed by the idea of partnerships between Government and faith-based organizations, but I am actively appalled by the actual partnerships that we have seen emerge under this administration.

If a group of prayerful people want to offer social services, it is not obviously a bad thing to my mind if the government helps them to do so; the one thing that we really must insist on, however, is results. If the "services" which these folks offer benefit no one, then this is not a partnership, it is merely a swindle. No program has shown a less impressive set of results than abstinence only education.

Even a serious Catholic like myself, who admires chastity as a virtue, will be glad to see this failure come to an end. Why pay people to lower teen birth rates and STD infections if they do not actually succeed in lowering teen birth rates or STD infections?

There are many programs that are currently under the purview of the Bush administration that Obama intends to continue--like the Federal Government for one- but that does not mean he intends to pursue the same idiotic, ineffective and destructive priorities as Bush has. How hard is that to figure out? We could just as easily be talking about the EPA or NASA, or the Department of Education or whatever.

Almost the entire point here is to re-program the types of services supported leveraging the vast social service delivery system that already exists. That he will use it to make a positive difference in people's lives in ways that are wholly consistent with a liberal view of social justice is written into to his entire life story. Question: Mr Obama, why did you stay in that church for 20 years? Answer: Because this is community that teaches first and foremost that our faith commands us to help those who are in need and has backed up that belief with action to the great benefit of our community. (one imagines the same question never asked of McCain, why do admire Joel Osteen so much?).

The other point that is neglected here is that in changing the priorities of federal support for social services through faith based organizations, Obama intends to change the view that to be religious means to be socially conservative--a message that has apparently been internalized by way too many democrats. Instead he intends to change the frame entirely: faith requires you devote yourself to helping your fellow man and women, no one more so than those most in need. What he is trying to do here is exactly the opposite of pandering to the right. He is trying to turn the faith community into an instrument of social justice. To resurrect, if you will, the idea that liberal and progressive values flow naturally and directly from every and all faiths. Notice how that also feeds the frame of focusing on those things that unite us not divide us. (bush, prompted by Rove had the opposite intent)

Many on the right will resist because to them religion is primarily about fetuses, gays and contraception. I predict they will lose.

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can i ask if it does not bother you that some of those religious leaders OBAMA has supported in the past here in chicago turned out to be crooks and slum lords? why did he fund his religious friends that were crooks? this program has the same ability to be abused as it has been here in chicago on a much larger scale. OBAMA masks his ideas in such great rhetoric.

One of the earliest public-private partnerships of the type supported by Daley and Obama took place in the Woodlawn neighborhood, a checkerboard of battered apartment buildings and vacant lots just south of the University of Chicago.

Grove Parc Plaza opened there in 1990 as a redevelopment of an older housing complex. The buildings had a new owner and a major renovation funded by the federal government. Even the name Grove Parc Plaza was new.

The owner, a local nonprofit company called Woodlawn Preservation and Investment Corp., was led by two of the neighborhood's most powerful ministers, Arthur Brazier and Leon Finney. Obama had relationships with both men. In 1999, he donated $500 of his campaign funds to another of their community groups, The Woodlawn Organization

As a result, some people in Chicago's poorest neighborhoods are torn between a natural inclination to support Obama and a concern about his relationships with the developers/religious leaders they hold responsible for Chicago's affordable housing failures. Some housing advocates worry that Obama has not learned from those failures.

"I'm not against Barack Obama," said Willie J.R. Fleming, an organizer with the Coalition to Protect Public Housing and a former public housing resident. "What I am against is some of the people around him."

Jamie Kalven, a longtime Chicago housing activist, put it this way: "I hope there is not much predictive value in his history and in his involvement with that community."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/?page=1

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and McCain's married to a pill popping millionaire felon who doesn't pay her property taxes and sells alcohol to kids. You can always dig up unsavory associations for anyone, but anyone, and try to use them to tar someone you don't like.

For example, there's this obnoxious person trolling on TPM with connections to unsavory McCain operatives pretending to be disaffected Democrats who keeps serially posting her off-topic drivel all over the place.

i suppose a Faith Based Initiative program that actually works is better than the use Bush put it to, namely, paying off social conservatives and political allies with fat paychecks with the understanding they better support the administration and get out the damn vote.

at the time, this was nothing but thinly veiled patronage of the worst sort; ineffective services.

the fact that obama promises to make it work doesn't remove the fundamental problem that the government should not be giving money to religous organizations.

it is impossible for this not to have, even if inadvertant, the effect of supporting religion by at a minimum freeing up money for proselytising.

the fact religous organizations have become a de facto social services institution that has in effect relieved the government of it's own obligation to it's least affluent citizens is no excuse.

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