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War Crimes Prosecutors Reviewing 9-11 As Pretext For Geneva Violations
War crimes prosecutors are reviewing 9-11 as a calculated act of treason to justify war crimes. Note the similarity between the Reichstag fire and 9-11:
Both events were a catalyst for a consolidation of power and illegal warfare. The events were never adequately investigated, but created a mythology to intimidate a civilian population, thwarting challenges to illegal warfare::
"The decree was issued by the Reich President, outside Papen'sBoth attacks disabled the opposition, and Pelosi took impeachment off the table:
responsibility, and by suppression of the relevant constitutional
stipulations. It was established under the impression created by the
Reichstag fire, an event which up to the present day has not been fully
elucidated"
"I have stated that I was against a military regime, that I wanted toThe events were catalysts to intimidate a civilian population, and thwart domestic opposition to illegal warfare:
avoid a civil war, and that, in keeping with democratic principles, I
saw only the one possibility: To allow the man to lead the government
once he had come to power."
"After the Reichstag fire of 28 February 1933, clauses of the Weimar
constitution guaranteeing personal liberty, freedom of speech, of the
press, of association and assembly were suspended."
The 9-11 Commission was a whitewash. The United States government has not been adequately held to account. There are too many problems with the official story. Too many credentialed scientists have had their conclusions suppressed.
The American public must not support any "truth and reconcilation" about war crimes until the truth about 9-11 is fully investigated and prosecuted under the laws of war:
A. Where are the plans the United States developed under the assumption a civilian population would blindly support illegal warfare;Congress and the President must fully disclose their plans to fully cooperate with international war crimes tribunal investigations into
B. Where are the NSA intercepts of the common plan the Democrats and Republicans agreed to support illegal warfare, not investigate, and support war war crimes
C. Where are the NSA intercepts of the Republican and Democratic leadership discussing their options when the American civilian population refused to support the above illegal warfare, Geneva violations, and unlawful consolidation of power.
1. The events of 9-11, and
2. How the US government criminally used 9-11 as a pretext for illegal activity, Geneva violations, and unlawful warfare.
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Comments (18)
Which war crimes prosecutors? From where?
Since Bush pulled out of the ICC (one of his first acts as President), I am curious as to who is running with this.
Do you know?
July 25, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just another conspirabunk from the self-importing "testing" who "cherry picks" as much as those he claims to deplore using such tactics.
As for "scientists" who are "suppressed": BS. There is no shortage of means for "them" to get their views publicly circulated. The fact is that the conspirabunkers will believe anything which supports their view -- even at umpteenth-hand -- especially if someone, somewhere, says a "scientist" said such-and-such.
He fails to ask hjimself: Would it have been NECESSARY for the WTC to collpase for the US citizenry to be outraged at the attack? No, it would not.
I'll go so far as suspect the attacks were ALLLOWED to happen; but all the other claptrap about it being an "inside job" is a mix of right-wing anti-gum'mint anti-Americanism, from those who havemn't a clue as to the nature of our system of laws as detailed in the Constitution, and an obvious and predictable anti-Semitism.
In short: the conspirabunk about the OK City bombing didn't accomplish what the right-wing anti-gum'mint nuts wanted, so it's been repackaged and recycled. And idjits on the Left have swallowed it whole without noticing the taste it imparts of horseshit.
"testing" is a pseudo-intellectual who knows nothing of actual law, yet attempts to give his blowhard's crap some sort of objective credible gloss by packaging it in references to laws about which he knows nothing, especially as concerns context and actual legal processes.
He is at core anti-gum'mint-no-matter-what, and thus anti-Constitution.
The refutation of his junk is simple and direct and the law of the land:
We the people are the gov't.
Only law-illiterate fools believe the right-wing anti-American lie that "the gov't" -- We the people -- "is the problem".
July 25, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, you doing like his work, that's your deal. I can think of a couple reasons why those towers had to come down IF the government had anything to do with 9/11.
I am not saying they did or didn't. But if you go with that line of thinking, the evidence of airplanes themselves needed to be completely destroyed. Removal of the evidence was immediate (no forensic analysis of anything, if you recall).
Again, I am not saying this is the case. But what is most definitely the case is you don't like testing, which is apparent in every comment you make at any post he does.
And if you think the government isn't the problem, you're simply not paying attention. Yes, we the people are part of the blame. But not as much as this corrupt admin.
July 25, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agree with your assessment on testing. This latest posting is absurd and disgusting.
July 25, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
This doesn't address any of the arguments related to reviewing 9-11 in the context of the nazi warmachine:
It's irrelevant whether we are or are not the government. The issue is war crimes prosecutions related to the ruse of 9-11. None of the points have been addressed or adequately discussed.
This doesn't address any examples; nor address the topic:
Whether there are or not claims "deploying" such conduct misses the point: You're not backing up what you're saying. You lose.
This ignores the retaliation against professors who believe the government was behind 9-11; and have been openly challenged for their views:
This doesn't address the concerns that because of the suppression and retaliation, that the public has been deprived of valuable oversight, Congressional reviews, and consequences for the leadership failure on 9-11:
You'll have to explain to others why their views have been suppressed; or evidence was suppressed; or scientific conclusion were suppressed. Here is only one example.
July 25, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
This shows we can agree that there was malfeasance; and war crimes prosecutors are reasonably looking at whether that decision was linked with planned war crimes:
July 25, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Someone misrepresents the comments; then pretends they are disgusting:
There's been no adequate discussion of the topic. rather than discuss the war crimes prosecutors' concerns that 9-11 was a pretext for illegal war crimes, some would claim that this line of prosecution and a discussion of that prosecution is absurd and disgusting. That doesn't make sense.
You've provided no discussion, comment, or substantive information to support your basis to assert that it is or isn't absurd. Other than making a short comment, you've not provided any information to explain how you concluded a discussion on war crimes springing from 9-11 is or isn't "disgusting".
You're calling a discussion of that topic "disgusting" without anything substantive:
July 25, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
It seems the truth hurts to read for you dipshit. Testing you are a troll and an ass. Your latest posting her demonstrates the lows and the crap you will spew out.
July 25, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Still being an utter tool testing....Nice.
July 25, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're not responding to the issues raised. Your misdirection fails.
Again.
July 25, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah...keep going. You are making me laugh. You are a fucking joke.
July 25, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Always appreciate your hard work testing, and appreciate your articles as well. It's clear that some people are VERY upset by your due diligence. Please don't allow them to distract you, or to rope you into wasting the valuable time you spend on researching this stuff.
A few months back i saved your article "Data Mining DoD Analyst Documents" as it was long and i didn't have the time to get into it. When i went back to check it out i noticed that most of the DoD links you pointed to had been removed. Is there any way of fixing those to point to archived versions? There was a lot of information there and apparently DoD didn't think it was important to keep it available to the public. If people were aware of how widespread and entrenched the domestic spying programs were, they wouldn't have been so dismayed at Obama's refusal to tilt at windmills as regards the FISA deal, i believe.
Keep up the good work, and please don't waste time on those that seek only to discredit and attack you. More of us appreciate your efforts than you may know.
July 25, 2008 9:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah the foil hat loon talks.
July 25, 2008 10:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Read the report. Do you understand it? Do you understand anything in it? Do you know the difference between stress, strain and strength? Do you understand how both the elastic properties and strength properties of materials are affected by temperature? Do you know what thermal expansion is? Do you know what thermal conduction is? Do you know what it means to construct a multi-scale model of a building subjected to extreme thermal loads due to fire? Do you know what it takes to simulate an impact event? A collision? Do you know what finite elements are?
July 26, 2008 12:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
fname,
It is a fruitless attempt trying to point out facts and logic to testing. The guy is so filled with pseudo conspiracy theories that he does not know where reality ends and fiction begins.
His posts keep getting funnier and funnier each day. I am awaiting the post that Bush assassinated the easter bunny. I imagine it is coming shortly from testing.
July 26, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
No offense to Bush apologists ("DD")but I think Testing has a point. The events of 9/11 have not been adequately investigated or explained to the population, which in turn brings in suspicions as to why not. Moreover, the whitewash commission, handpicked by Bush-Cheney, deposed its most impostant witness in the most questionable of ways.
I am satisfied that the WTC collapse happened as a result of a design flaw, once under attack from a jumbo airliner.
And Testing's point about how the PNAC used the events of September 11 2001 as some kind of absolute, paradigm-shifting catalyst, which it was intended as, to justify abrogating Geneva rights on anyone the administration deems hostile to its goals.
No offense to clowns like "DD", but Testing score for originality. I haven't seen his point made anywhere else. "DD" should be able to concede at least that.
PS, "DD" eff-off, please.
July 26, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fuck you asshole. I am no Bush apologist, and I am sick and tiredd of you fucking little shits attempting to say I am because I won't let this shit head that calls himself testing attempt to prosper off others suffering as he as.
Testing's point as you say it has been made by many such crackpots over the years. It is the simple response of the truly idiotic that can not grasp that someone can do something so evil in such a simplistic way.
When you start adding value Simon perhaps you will be treated with some sort of respect. Until that go fuck yourself you little shit.
July 26, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
...and JamesDD finally has the tantrum we've been waiting for. I vote he doesn't post here anymore since he just outed his real purpose as harrassment of a regular and respected poster here at TPM. Buhbye little bushie troll!
July 30, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
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