Reader Posts

« previous | TPM CAFÉ READER POSTS HOME | next »

The New Yorker's "Ironic" Obama Cover

What can you say about this?  I'm speechless.

Here are a few links to stories of the cover of the New Yorker, which depicts Sen. Obama in African garb with a turban doing a fist bump with an AK-strapping afroed Michelle.  This is while the American flag burns in a fireplace with a portrait of Bin Laden displayed over the mantle. [I'm NOT making this up]

In an ironic way, the New Yorker cover DOES feed into a stereotype.  

However, it's not the stereotype of the Obamas as scary American-hating radicals, but rather, of limousine-liberal Mahattanites that are so singularly out of touch with the concerns that some Americans have concerning Sen. Obama that they are demonstrably obtuse to what they are doing.

It may not be unusual for Upper East-Side liberals that a half-black man with an African father and Hussein for a middle name [not to mention a scary black former preacher] might ascend to the presidency, but to some Americans IT IS EVERYTHING.

And this doesn't help.


Comments (205)

I'd love to hear some thoughts about the cover.

avatar

Horrific. Despicable. Sad. Sick. Wrong. Disgusting. UnAmerican. Bile. Trash. Incendiary. Political Porn. Incomprehensible. Stupid. Indefensible. Threatening. Despicable. Hatemongering. Immoral. Unethical. Vile.
Appalling.

I'm sure after I calm down, there'll be much more!

If the editors at the New Yorker had superimposed the title of the relevant article --"The Politics of Fear"-- on the cover then, maybe, just maybe, it could not be used by Fox, etc. to impugn Obama.
But because the editors were too pure to break their "graphic standard" of not obscuring the cover drawing with type, they have handed the right wing pundits a weapon of mass destruction. I can see it now: O'Reilly et al holding up the cover for a zoom shot to maximize the impact.
I'm disgusted by the hubris of these 12 year-old editors. One of them insisted this morning that their intention, to focus on fear, "is made perfectly clear on the Table of Contents page." Well. That makes it all better. Because of course the producers on every news program will insist that we see a zoom shot of a black and white page filled with indeciperable type.
Sigh.

Yeah, right. Like anyone who's on the fence about Obama is going to bother to look at the Table of Contents page. The editors of the New Yorker are as sequestered and out-of-touch as they come.

avatar

on the Table of Contents page at the bottom in teeny tiny print . Remnick's response that we are underestimating our fellow Americans and, in our outrage, are (he implicated) condescending appalls me. We live in a visual society inculcated with the politics of fear.

As the original poster said,this is the result of

limousine-liberal Mahattanites that are so singularly out of touch with the concerns that some Americans have concerning Sen. Obama that they are demonstrably obtuse to what they are doing.

avatar

Ditto,

reprehensible, fearmongering, racist, obscene.

The new racism in America...paint folks as terrorists...so the public will lynch them.

If anyone doubts the Clintons are behind this, they are stooopid. Hillary's campaign sent out that picture of Obama dressed in Arabic garb during the primaries.

avatar

There's a priceless post on this at Daily Kos - a hypothetical exchange of correspondence between the NY editor & Blitt, the cartoonist.

http://www.dailykos.com/hotlist/add/2008/7/14/81539/2609/displaystory//

AND by the way, a great example of what is considered humorous and effective satire.

If anyone doubts the Clintons are behind this

There's always one.

Good God! The Clintons have much to answer for but the deluded, conspiracy theories of posters like you make her supporters look like the rational ones in the debate.

avatar

That is the foresight TNY should have had.

avatar

It is ironic in the same way that Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck like to say that their remarks often are. This could have come directly from their website. And given that it is home to one of the most cynical, deliberately spiteful articles on Barack Obama I've seen since the author's (Ryan Lizza) LAST article on Barack Obama's Chicago roots published in March 2007 for The New Republic.

You know . . . who knows how this all plays out. I'm sure that it's possible that the cover draws all of the rumors and smears into the open and subsequently knocks them down.

However, I can already see from the posts that commenters are leaving at the ABC/Jake Tapper site that there are more than a few 'there's some truth behind every rumor' thoughts.

Who knows? I just don't think they get it.

Oh, I guess I'll admit that it doesn't bother me.

I admit that, when I first saw it, there was a slight feeling of vertigo, like the floor had just dropped eighteen inches, and maybe a slight adrenaline reaction.

But then I thought harder.

I really think it's better to get the fears out in the open and make fun of them. I know some people won't get it, or will willfully twist it. But it's not like the fears aren't out there already. Fears don't become less powerful by being swept under the bed. It's better to have a good laugh about them, and puncture them.

Besides, it makes Michelle look like a kick-ass action heroine.

I hope you're right. I'd certainly like to think that that's the case.

However, I have my doubts.

But then I thought harder.

And that's the problem in a nutshell. Most people won't think harder. They'll settle for their first impression, which is that the New Yorker is trying to tell us something. And what is the New Yorker trying to tell us? Simply this: that the Obamas are too dangerous, too radical, too unpatriotic and too elitist to be allowed into the White House.

No one ever lost an election by underestimating the intelligence of the American public.

Get a grip...It is not "ironic" is is called Satire.

...and grow up.

Blow me.

avatar

Exactly. This cartoon does a great job illustrating how absurd the smears and whispered rumors really are. It would be nice if "The Politics of Fear" was printed on the cover, but I'm OK with it even without that.

There's an interesting chapter in "Freakonomics" where the KKK was significantly weakened in the south when some of their practices were leaked into radio programs and... made fun of. Satire can be a powerful weapon against irrational hatred.

I subscribe to the New Yorker, New York and Vanity Fair. Like most regular readers of the three, over time you understand where each of the mags is coming from -- its editorial perspective.

Unfortunately, I don't think a majority of non-regulars will get the cover. I think they'll be blown away by the whirlwind surrounding the cover and the inflammatory comments it will generate.

I think the cover illustrator's intentions were to convey his ironic message -- meant to be funny, you know like, um those "good jokes" mentioned earlier in the week that some folks like as much as the next guy -- but sometimes what's "ha-ha" funny to one guy, what is "do I amuse youse?" funny to someone else, completely misses to a third party, and may be just downright offensive to a fourth. Judging by the reaction of the Obama campaign, they are in the "it's not so funny" camp.

And one's reaction is also tempered by how you come in contact with it the first time. Will I (Did I) look at the cover untainted? Would I have laughed, thought it was cute? Or did knowing there was a controversy a-brewing alter my perception?

avatar

Jade,

To me it is horrific and sick. I can't fathom that in any moral/ethical arena the message this sends would be considered 'cute' or even half ass appropriate.

Trust me, if they did something remotely like this to McCain - I'd be just as outraged.

Oh, wait. Perhaps the next cover will be depicting McCain at the Hanoi Hilton, drinking champagne as he's being serviced by young girls before pissing on the American Flag. Almost even. Of course they'd have to drag in his wife too for the best 'shot'.

We're not far apart on our reactions to it. I'm trying (not very successfully, I must admit) to temper my response. The more I've looked at it the more disturbing it is.

Barry Blitt could have conveyed the "fear factor" by putting the fear where it belongs: in the minds of voters. In other words, had he put a row of New Yorkers riding the subway all reading various MSM or listening to their iPods with thought bubbles coming out of their heads of these various depictions of Barack and Michelle, I could be more supportive of that image because that places the responsibility for the fear with the voters, not on the Obamas.

I don't think the artist, who way trying to convey a message, was successful.

avatar

Well, how about Britt's previous cover depicting Bush and Cheney as husband and wife, with apron (bush) and cigar (Cheney)? I mean, for a homophobic right winger, that's incredibly offensive. Does that cross the same line for you? (See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/13/barry-blitt-addresses-his_n_112432.html )

Personally, I find this about as offensive as Lindsay Bluth on "Arrested Development" -- in many ways she is an exaggeration of a right wing caricature of liberals, but it is so over the top I don't for a moment think that anyone will mistake it for "evidence" that social concern is always egotistical.

avatar

MarkC, think Felix and Oscar (The Odd Couple). That cartoon had the guts to poke fun at the actual Bush/Cheney relationship. The current cover claims to be poking fun at some people's mental image of the Obamas, but looks as though it's commenting on the Obamas themselves.

I understand the obvious satirical intent, specifically within the context of the article, which is titled "The Politics of Fear".

And the satire works well on a certain level. However, I think that it's a disaster on another level, and that level predominates.

I hope I'm wrong.

avatar

The only 'ironic' thing about this cover is that Obama speaks tonight to the oldest civil rights organization in this country. I hope his speech addresses this villification and smearmongering as the new HATE in America.

The New Yorker's take-away message is: Unlike the hicks who actually believe this crap, our readers are sophisticated enough to know we are merely engaging in naughtily satirical fun.
At a swoop, the magazine has stereotyped the Obamas, the hicks, and its own elitist readers.
The trifecta.
Satire that is indistinguishable from what it purports to satirize fails as satire.

Wow! What an amazing analysis. I concur.

avatar

EXACTLY! Nothing to add.

To bad it is going to put their sales through the roof.

Impressive display of analysis and wordsmithing, Acanuck. Are you related to Quinn?

Picture this: A cover of big black Tyrone barefoot in overalls and no shirt, just finished gardening for his boss "missa Jones" and ready to dig into summa Mammie's fried chicken followed by some cool refreshin watermelon.

"Mmm-mm! Dats finga-lickin good!"

"Thats racist!", you may shout in disbelief. But you see, if you just open up the magazine and read the main article, you can see that this was just satire about all the stupid stereotypes and misconceptions that racists have African-Americans. That makes everything OK. We uptown New Yorkers get it, why can't everyone else?

Wait'll you see next week's cover with the big-nosed Hasidic worshipping money and producing movies. Oh don't worry, the accompanying article is satirical too.

SATIRE MAKES EVERYTHING ACCEPTABLE! :)))))))

The disgusting thing is that the will get SO MUCH attention for this... sort of like FOX 'News' doing ridiculous and disgusting things because of the reactions they get. Outrageous, ignorant, and ridiculous cover choice... I will let them know what I think of their choice but I certianly don't read the New Yorker. Subscribers have more sway.

Phone the New Yorker tomorrow and let them know you're pissed. Then email them. Then call Barnes and Noble and tell them you want it pulled.

I wonder whether this is a good idea.

New Yorker readers are not a problem. People in bookstores are probably not a problem audience either.

The only way this becomes a problem is if it becomes a big news event. And the way this becomes a big news event is for us to protest it.

I know that the Obama campaign said it was "offensive." They may or may not really be offended; but they absolutely have to say that they're offended, or Michelle Malkin will announce that they love the idea of OBL in the Oval Office.

Their remarks about the image don't necessarily mean that they want us to raise a fuss about it.

avatar

I respectfully disagree. If the protests are based upon the thesis of this post, i.e. it (the cover) lays bare the smugness and bigotry by those who are inhabitants of Manhattan, L.A. and S.F. (S.F. native by the way) of a certain socio-economic strata, and the Left/Progressives are offended (which I am)based upon said bigotry, then I think we can weather this.

Correction: . . . the way this becomes a bigger news event is for us to protest it.

In a typical scenario, you would be right. However, this story will have very long legs in any case, and its important to make the New Yorker pay a price for its mistake as a warning to other media.

The cover illustration is inflammatory for those outside the New Yorker's normal circulation, exactly those being exposed to it now, as it is already the top political story in the nation Monday morning on nearly every network, publication and online.

The story won't just die. On top of that, the New Yorker issue includes a story that amounts to another hit piece on Obama. That, also, will give the story legs. And as ABC News' Jake Tapper noted, the story will be extended further as the cover is used as a recruitment poster for Right Wingers. I'll let the Swamp take it from here:

The cover accompanies an article by Ryan Lizza, which explores "the period that formed [Obama] as a politician"--his life in Chicago and his election to the U.S. Senate.

Lizza interviewed Toni Preckwinkle, a Chicago alderman, who spoke of political maneuvering by Obama.

"On issue after issue, Preckwinkle presented Obama as someone who thrived in the world of Chicago politics. She suggested that Obama joined Jeremiah Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ for political reasons. 'It's a church that would provide you with lots of social connections and prominent parishioners,' she said. 'It's a good place for a politician to be a member.' Preckwinkle was unsparing on the subject of the Chicago real-estate developer Antoin (Tony) Rezko, a friend of Obama's and one of his top fund-raisers, who was recently convicted of fraud, bribery, and money laundering: 'Who you take money from is a reflection of your knowledge at the time and your principles.'

"I asked her if what she considered slights or betrayals were simply the necessary accommodations and maneuvering of a politician making a lightning transition from Hyde Park legislator to Presidential nominee. 'Can you get where he is and maintain your personal integrity?' she said. 'Is that the question?' She stared at me and grimaced. 'I'm going to pass on that.'"

If you think that's something , you should get acquainted with the entire years' covers which have featured Cheney and Bush. I've got one in a portfolio book that shows Cheney as a pumpkin carving with his characteristic sneer agressively lit from inside. Another one this February showed the classic tophatted guy with monacle as a playing card - a joker actually. One way it was Obama, the other way up it was Clinton. Then there's Steve Brodner's cartoon of Oprah holding Obama like he's the baby Jesus.

Nobody even snickered on TPM about any of those.

If you don't "get" the New Yorker, just look outside the box.

If you don't "get" the power of visuals to sway weak minds, look inside the box.

I find much to agree with here. Even when an image is not, in itself, blasphemous, it may inflame the imagination of the masses -- who are rarely (if ever) capable of understanding its true meaning. For this reason a wise man will avoid making any picture of sacred things.

Sorry, Sistani, I'm talking about the masses, just that sliver who really are dumb, who really do believe what they see at face value, and who do constitute enough votes to swing an election if their unfounded fears are reinforced. If they didn't exist, there would be no Politics of Fear.

avatar

I agree, those same 27% who believe Obama is a muslim...will have this cover reinforce that stereotype of him being a manchurian candidate and Michelle being a black militant...raised on the South side,...despite her ivy league degree she is suppose to be Angela Davis?!

The masses are asses and this will affirm their doubts and fears.

I'm not sure what your "ivy league" reference meant, but in case you're not aware of the fact, Angela Davis is an incredibly highly educated person. She's not particularly a hero of mine, but she's certainly not ignorant - she's a professor at the University of California. That said, it certainly doesn't help Michelle Obama to be portayed as Angela Davis.

Angela Davis seems to have mellowed in recent years - like many people who were trying to change the world in the latter half of the 20th century, she wasn't always wise, but you can certainly understand part of what motivated her. There's an interesting Wikipedia entry about her for anyone who has some remembering/learning to do.

avatar

I am well aware of Davis' credentials, the point was that DESPITe her being ivy league educated they are portraying her as some militant..in other words they would not put the same skewed sociologic pathology of skinhead on a female who was white with an ivy league degree.

IOW, it was not dissing Angela's education but highlighting the racial bias of the press.

We see eye to eye, my friends. For it is not the pious majority of the people that concern me either. Only a small number of foolish ones, whose perverse imaginations are too easily misled, and corrupt the rest.

avatar

Since I don't subscribe to the NewYorker and do not live on east coast, never saw the others, but trust that I would have not supported most of those either.

This cover is especially 'wrong' because it plays to the fears and smears being flung at Obama. It panders and assists all the 'fear mongeering' about this man.

We actually carved a pumpkin that matched the Cheney-o-Lantern cover. It was great!

avatar

Was your pumpkin an unusually pointy headed pumpkin?

Yeah. I gotta admit, with an avatar that looks this smug, I'm definitely asking for it.

For the heck of it, here's a link to some Bush and Cheney covers by the same artist who did the Oval Office fist-bump one.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/13/barry-blitt-addresses-his_n_112432.html

avatar

Alex, the reason these caricatures are not analogous is because there is no historical stereotype for the individuals based on their race.

Every single black stereotype is negative! In contrast to those stereotypes which are positive for other ethnic groups as in nerdybright/Asians, wealthy/jewish, largefamily/catholic etc.

Consequently, the caricature of the Obama's simply feeds into the subliminal and ever present negative stereotype of blacks as a whole in American society.

This is BAAAAAD!

Very Bad.

Horribly Bad

Reprehensibly Bad

The folks living in trailers are nodding their heads and saying...seee! We were right and now all those sophisticated, elite, intellectuals get it now.

Crass, rude, crude and socially unacceptable..is all that can be said for this cover.

I suspect this is going to be a negative turning point in the campaign for Obama.

Very Negative.

I didn't say they were analogous. I said, "for the heck of it," knowing that the link wouldn't persuade those who were already angry, but hoping that it might amuse some of the rest.

avatar

Indiviuals who are amused by hate are sick sadistic s.o. b's.

I do not have to be angry to know that this is wrong and ANY attempts to 'put it in perspective' describe it as 'ironic' or 'satirical' are nothing but ridiculous excuses to make palatable racial hatred which is despicable.

This was WRONG. Plain and simply...whether your best friend (liberal) stabs you in the chest or the most vile hated enemy (KKKredneckstarsandbarsbigots)

doesn't change that you are mortally wounded!!

This is WRONG.

WRong, Wrong, WRONG.

Most of us know the difference between irony and sarcasm. The NEW YORKER cover fails at irony and makes a weak sarcastic statement: "If you don't get the joke, than it is you who are stupid."

The NEW YORKER is wrong in so many ways. They assume anyone seeing the cover in a newsstand will get the joke. But the joke only works if you are familiar with the magazine. And most people aren't. The NEW YORKER managing editorial staff should have known that from their floundering sales.

Harold Ross and Brendan Gill are turning over in their graves. I'm glad I canceled my subscription over a year ago. The quality of the magazine had gone so far down. Shame. Shame.

Sad... guess the New Yorker is losing its touch...

Like most people, at first I was shocked and outraged. After giving it some time to sink in, reading the comments of the artist and seeing some of his other covers, I began to understand his perspective, that getting these demons out in the open makes it easier to exorcise them. I'm not saying that I fully agree. Any potential benefit will likely drown in the ensuing tsunami of righteous indignation.

avatar

Jonathan Swift is turning in his grave.

You all need to relax.

Which is exactly why I think the New Yorker should next come out with a satirical cover depicting John McCain eating human infants. Comedy!

avatar

Mr. Swift is turning in his grave because such simplistic crap is now being hailed as satire. That New Yorker cover is much closer to the work of Carrot Top than the work of Dean Swift.

Is he the one they named the boats after?

It's funny, but I went through a few moments of shock, and then outrage, and then more shock, and then curiosity. I asked myself why, what, how this ever got published. I realized that it was satire, because it was the New Yorker that did it.

Then I came up with the word that has become part of the lexicon of this year's race - inartful. It was a wonderful word to describe a piece of art. Inartful. Poorly conceived for reasons stated by other posters. It simply does not convey its satire well enough, while it does a great job of displaying, and to some perhaps, validating the beliefs it satirizes.

Still, I'm not sure making a huge stink about it is necessarily the way to go. I'm tempted to watch what others say, and perhaps make a stink about those who take it seriously or try to make it real. Perhaps I'm wrong, but as much as I disagree with what The New Yorker did, I don't disagree with their intentions, and now that the cover is out, the damage is done.

I think protesting, or at least letting the magazine know how your respond to it is absolutely correct. But at the same time, it will pass, like everything in this society, if we let it. The more we keep it as an issue, the longer it will last as a meme and a potential distraction from the message and the task at hand. Think about how many people would never see that cover if it didn't become news. Well it is news now, but we don't want to keep it in the public eye any longer than it has to be. Pull the cover? Maybe. Not likely, but it could happen. But other than that, we're not doing ourselves any favors by keeping this alive.

So I think I will call the magazine and rebuke them, but not calling them names or being abusive, but suggesting that their editorial staff should, perhaps, show a little more oversight and be a little more careful about the real effect they might have. I will politely suggest that the cover could be replaced by something more - artful.

Then I'll let it go and move on, unless some talking head on some TV show starts mouthing off with lies and distortions. That's who I really want to go after.

Others may want to take a more extreme approach toward the magazine, and I wouldn't even think to try to talk you out of it. I'm just speaking for myself.

The funny thing is, I feel like the vast majority of the people who read the New Yorker don't believe any of these smears. I don't think the New Yorker had a malicious intent and most people who would pick up the New Yorker get that - but they did present this idea poorly. Do New Yorker covers normally have no accompanying text? Maybe they should've had the White House scene depicted on the cover within the thought bubble of a crazed pundit. I'm not sure.

Inartful, to say the least.

avatar

UPDATE: The cartoonist's defense: (Ben Smith Blog - Politico)
________________________________________________
"I think the idea that the Obamas are branded as unpatriotic [let alone as terrorists] in certain sectors is preposterous. It seemed to me that depicting the concept would show it as the fear-mongering ridiculousness that it is."
_________________________________________________

Well, what do ya think now?

I think the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

avatar

Damn straight!

If a car hits a pedestrian and they die, it does not matter one bit whether the drive INTENDED to hit the person...they are DEAD.

avatar

I think we're all missing the point. As many have noted, those who read this mag may "get it." However, to me, it looks like this mag is attempting to gain circulation dollars by appealing to those who profess to "reluctantly" admit, or unabashedly howl - that there may be, or is, some truth to certain elements depicted in the cover. Call me a cynic, but how's the mag's bottom line doing lately?

I think it's funny. Are jokes off limits during this election?

Honestly, I ALSO think its funny in its context. The thing is, if a far Right-wing publication, say the Weekly Standard, decided to make this their cover as an ATTACK on Obama, I wouldn't find it funny and would instead find it insulting. And the reason is, the satire is NOT obvious. Somebody who was not familiar with the political leanings of the New Yorker would not "get" the joke. Especially since there is no accompanying text or byline to the picture.

Now if it had also depicted similar misconceptions about John McCain, or if it had been encapsulated as a "thought bubble" out of an elephant's head like someone else mentioned in a comment, I wouldn't make a big stink, but as it stands, the piece treads a fine line between satire and racist propaganda, and contrary to what some believe, it is not so obviously satirical as a proposition to eat babies -- especially in the current political environment.

In fact, I'd say that message in that drawing could be considered grounds for some in this country to do anything in their power to stop Obama from winning the presidency and could be conceivably be used as propaganda for furthering that purpose.

Well, maybe. But should the artists and editors at The New Yorker censor themselves just because somebody on the far right might twist the meaning of their work? That way lies madness, and it's ineffective since people on the far right will always find something to twist, bend or alter.

Do you agree there are things beyond the pale? I mean would it seriously be OK if the New Yorker put out a cover of GWB as a certain moustachioed past German leader in full National Socialist regalia doing the "seig heil" and Cheney in white sheets and "grand wizard" hood on his head lighting up a torch cross because SOME PEOPLE on the far left believe this to be true? Or how about my previous example of the hook-nosed Jew counting money in a vault somewhere beneath the Lower East Side?

In the spirit of "freedom of expression" I don't think we can or should censor that type of art, but you have to remember the readership of this magazine and what they are aiming for. In that sense I think they fail miserably and they are making a HUGE business mistake. They are going to lose readership and reputation and they are only going to gain temporary fame.

Sure there are things that are beyond the boundaries of good taste. I actually don't agree with you that comparing Cheney to a Klan member or Dubya to Hitler break those boundaries, though. It just wouldn't work for the New Yorker because thier audience would find the joke childish.

In this case, I think their readers know exactly what the New Yorker is getting at. I doubt that they've made a big business mistake. But, by all means, if you don't like it, don't read them anymore.

I don't mean this to sound as critical as it's going to but I think you're being hypersensitive and that you should lighten up. But I understand why you're sensitive to this. Our candidate is going to face a tough media environment, one tougher than McCain will have to face. It's frustrating. But I don't think it's worth trying to shout down the wits of the left wing over it.

I think the cover is offensive and damaging for the Obama campaign.
The cable news media is going to headline this all week, and spread the image to those who aren't so familiar with The New Yorker, low-witted viewers are going to see the image and confirm the false lies that conservatives have already pushed out there about Obama. They are not going to see it as satire.

I looked at the previous New Yorker covers and they were far less obscene as this.

avatar

I agree with you - and it galvanised me to download and read the article wondering if it portended a hatchet job.

I'm even more depressed by the content. There's a Chicago State Senator, Hendon, who doesn't get on with Obama and I imagine this will get fully as much play as the cover. Faux News will now be parrotting that Obama has a temper - get this:
`

avatar

Sorry, don't know why but this got sent as I was typing.
Lizza says, `Obama, who had learned to box from his Indonesian stepfather, supposedly told Hendon, `I'm going to kick your ass.'

I can see it now - Hannity: Obama, with an uncontrollable temper, taught to box by a Muslim, threatening another senator...

And Lizza also indicates at least one of the October `surprises`

This Hendon, who can't stand Obama, has written a book about him. No doubt it will be published in the fall.

I'd like to re-iterate that I am not against this cover because I find it personally insulting. I understand its context and the intent of the artist.

I am against this because I feel it is politically damaging to the Obama campaign and its effect will be no different to that of racist attack propaganda despite of what the original intent of the artist and the magazine is.

If you give right-wingers an inch they will take a mile from you. Many of us already know this, and Josh Marshall has expressed that sentiment many times. John Kerry and Al Gore "gave them an inch" and let people walk all over them, and they took a mile and a hop, skip and a jump for good measure and look where that got us.

However, because the New Yorker is, at its heart, a liberal publication I don't think the Obama campaign can say much about it aside from expressing their dis-satisfaction with the drawing because they need publications like the New Yorker on their side. Thats why Obama supporters need to make a big stink about it and express to the New Yorker why their cover art sucks balls -- even if it makes us look sensitive and whiny.

I am not willing to give even a nanometer in this year's campaign -- not even against usually friendly publications like the New Yorker -- if it allows the right-wing to make any sort of attrition against Obama.

avatar

Are you kidding racism is worse when it comes from whites masquerading as liberals!! Who think by virtue of their liberal values they can flaunt racist ideas and stereotypes as if folks should have the intellectual prowess to 'get it'

Give me a break, if any of that insular elistism was true, lynching would not have continued for one hundred years in this country.

I know EFFIN well, no Jewish person would ever allow a person to be depicted as some Nazi hatemongerer, and think it was OK because the magazine that published it was Israeli in origin.

No friggin way.

This is outrageous, the magazine and their editors should be censored and condemned. This will most likely be far more damaging to the Obama campaign than Wright was.

I am appalled at the manner in which people who call theseselves liberals are finding this unspeakably racist cover acceptable.

If the whispers and rumors suggested that Obama was responsible for torturing prisoners or that he watched without care as the citizens of New Orleans drowned or that he joked about WMD in the Oval office as soldiers were dying in Iraq, then the material would certainly be too offensive for even the New Yorker to satirize. But since it's only about maligning the character of a Democratic presidential candidate and his wife burning the American flag and honoring a portrait of someone responsible for the deaths of 3,000 Americans, well that's laugh out loud funny.

I remember in history class how the satirists of the past presented Blacks and Hawaiians as ape-like, Asians as rats, Jews with horns and much worse. The purpose was not to shed light on the misinformation, but rather to reinforce the stereotypes and prejudices so that these people could be dehumanized, making it permissible in some minds to steal from them and to attack and butcher them.

avatar

it's okay

if we get a cover next week showing mcsame crashing a plane into the whitehouse while his wife shoots herion in the rose garden

cuz there's a little kernel of truth behind every rumor ...

fucking RACISTS

I agree with many of those who have posted here. This cover is an offensive mockery.

The woman on the cover appears to be a secular Western feminist, probably Angela Davis. The man appears to be an Islamic cleric. As we know, it would be sacrilege for a cleric to engage in lewd relations with Angela Davis.

Do not allow me even to start talking about the way this cover parodies the ritual of velayat-i-faqih, or American-flag-burning.

Mistake me not; I completely get the joke. I understand that in New York it is considered amusing to represent many sacrileges. If this magazine would stay in its place, and be read only by the depraved citizens of New York, I would not feel that it fell under my jurisdiction.

Unfortunately, there is a chance that it will find its way to my country, where it may bewilder and confuse many of the yokhels, or so-called "swing voters."

This left me no choice. I have convened the Supreme Islamic Council of Najaf, and we have declared a fatwa on the New Yorker. Many of us also cancelled our subscriptions.

WTF!?!
This has left me dumbfounded. I must have missed listening in on a white meeting somewhere. When did hostile open racism come back into vogue?

avatar

Despicable. I'm a longtime New Yorker subscriber, and I'm seriously considering cancelling my subscription. This won't deflate the stereotype; it will reinforce it. And such imagery is the single biggest obstacle Obama has to overcome in order to be elected president. The New Yorker's either clueless, cynical, or both...f*&% them.

avatar

You know, it's bad enough that the MSM is so in the tank for McCain, shrugging off his numerous gaffes, giving him donuts, enjoying his barbecues, etc...now the So-Called Liberal Media is inadvertently helping him as well. Tell me...would the New Yorker have run a cover depicting John McCain telling his North Vietnamese captors everything they wanted to hear, while hugging a small black child in a parental-like manner, or acting in a deranged manner, and then called it "satire"? Or maybe a depiction of him shopping with Depends and Viagra in his cart? Oh, it's just a "satire" of how the media treats McCain's advanced age! Yeah, right. And this Obama cover has no excuses either.

It seems obvious that the cartoonist possesses a juvenile mind. This reminds me of something a snickering teenager sitting in the back of the class might draw, thinking in their own immature mind how witty and clever it is. However, any adult looking at it would just roll their eyes.

Urban:
It struck me as exactly that -- juvenile.
A childlike cartoonist is one thing; it goes with the territory, more often than not. Which is precisely why magazines have editors. The assumption is that the editor has enough maturity to make good judgements, to keep things in balance. This editor failed miserably, undoubtedly because he has the same arrrested development.
I can see them in the conference room,feeding on each other's cleverness, rather than assessing the potential cost. Or dimly recognizing the risk, but finding the opportunity to be "naughty" irresistible. After all, what is the future of the country, and to some real extent, the world, when one has the chance to be a bad boy and get away with it? With friends like these, who needs enemies.

avatar

Do people who read the New Yorker hold such crazy beliefs about the Obamas?. I doubt it very much, so what minds is the New Yorker going to change with this cover? The type of people who currently believe that the Obamas are what the cover depicts them as being, are not going to read the New Yorker.

Great social satire should have a positive payoff. I fail to see how this cover will accomplish any such results. Labeling something as satire should not absolve an effort from critical analysis.

We had a recent example of FOX Network distorting the images of a couple of NY Times journalists, and making them look much less attractive than they really were. FOX did not do that in order to convince the viewers that those two journalists are above reproach.

Therefore, how can it be that when FOX does it, is intended to tear down the target, but when The New Yorker does it, it is intended to redeem the target of the depiction.

This cover strikes me as not being worthy of being acclaimed as a truth revealing instrument.

When I look at it, all I see is a lead balloon.

If dipshits out there like Glenn Beck or Bill O'Reilly or half the other sound biting morons on board at CNN decide to do a close up of the cover, they might have to explain the irony. I can also assure you that the core viewership of fox barely graduated from high school and don't subscribe to the New Yorker. They don't know irony. They think thats what you do to wrinkled clothes.

I am curious to see how many of the members of the fourth estate will actually have the guts and character to explain the irony. This may turn out just fine.

avatar

It never ceases to amaze me how smug liberals are, convinced that everyone who disagrees with them is an uneducated hayseed. I can assure you many regular Fox News viewers are far more intelligent and more educated than you or anyone you associate with.

avatar

You can assure us! It does not get much more smug than what you just wrote. It drips of your overweening smugness.

Unfortunately, the demographic data available on the FOX viewership supports my assertion. I also think it is sad that 25% of the voters in PA think that Obama is a radical muslim extremist.

Our country has way too many ignorant and uninformed people and the media does nothing to help with this problem. The news media is not in the business of reporting the news they are in the business of selling shit for others using sound bites.

An uninformed electorate is the greatest enemy to democracy. Dripping with smugness? Don't mind me I'm just irony my shirt from Barney's.

avatar

The cover is great--unlike some of the David Brooks style comments here, which suggest that the dimwits out in the land of shimmering wheat and Aaron Copeland just can't handle irony. Is satire supposed to die because your own personal sacred cow is running for office?

Yeah, people who think Obama is a Muslim and Michelle is a terrorist are dimwits. And you don't have to be an "elitist" New Yorker to think that. You just have to be a rational human being.

avatar

So what was the purpose of the cover if, as you claim, it is just preaching to the choir? If you are correct, then it is not even what the creator claims it is.

It's a joke.

A joke. A joke. A joke.

Keep fighting for Obama. But if you get sidetracked into these little things, and fall into the hysterical PC liberal stereotype, then you're going to help us lose this.

It's a joke. You might not find it funny, but it's still a joke.

avatar

How is it a joke. Others claim that it is satire. A joke has a punch line. All I see is a cartoon without a payoff caption.

It's a collection of all the Obama smears gathered into one visual image. I see it, and I am amused by how ridiculous it all is.

Jokes don't all need punchlines. Sometimes the punchline is supplied by the viewer, and helped by the context. If this were a right wing publication, then the context would be telling me that the joke is coming from a very different angle, and I'd be pissed off.

But this is coming from the basic liberal "elitist" big city magazine. I was just yesterday reading an overly-long story on Buckminster Fuller in an earlier issue of the New Yorker -- if anything, they're detail-oriented and a bit too smarmy. But in my other passing encounters with the magazine, I found that racist right-wing trash they aren't.

Some other examples of non-punchline and maybe complex humor you might not be familiar with: Eddie Murphy doing the character Buckwheat in the early-'80s Saturday Night Live. Was he furthering stereotypes by playing the little dim colored boy from the 1930's "Little Rascals," or was he showing how ridiculous that original character was by putting it in the context of the hip (at the time) world where a hip black comic was a big rising star?

Or "Blazing Saddles" -- do you think the humor was racist because the white townsfolk were calling their new black sheriff the n-word? Or Brooks' other masterpiece, "The Producers" -- do you think he's a Nazi because he included the full Hitlerific musical production "Springtime for Hitler"?

Get a damn grip. Even Bush the First learned that he's not going to get anywhere unless he embraced his lampooner Dana Carvey.

If you want to win, quit being the whining hysterical PC liberal stereotype.

avatar

It is not a joke. You keep claiming that it is. The creator of the image does not label it as a joke. You are overly fond of that catch all word. It may be an attempt at satire or lampooning, but it does not fit the definition of a joke. It is quite obvious what sources the depiction were drawn from. That aspect of it is about as subtle as a Carrot Top bit. To me, it is just a piece of simplistic crap being sold as the magic mirror that reveals and cures all warts.

The Obama campaign has condemned it.

I've also heard some people say it's a parody.

Well, which is it? A satire, a joke, a lampoon, or a parody? And if it's a parody, why didn't they add a caption saying that it's a parody?

You don't explain humor when in the process of delivering it, nor do you put warnings on how it should not be perceived.

Jedreport.com has a point that it could've used some clearer contextualizing, such as showing the image on the cover of the Weekly Standard or within a TV tuned to Fox News.

I just realized that I better add a caption myself.

What I just wrote was a parody. But it might better be described as an "irritable squib." I'm not sure that it deserves to be called a joke. No punch line.

How's this: It is a humorous caricature of right-wing smears.

Right now, some Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh or Clever Bulldog is writing a tirade. The subject matter revolves around how liberals don't even get their own humor, that this is another example of humorless liberal political correctness, and that liberals only believe in freedom of the press when it suits their humorless liberal political agenda.

TPMers raising this non-issue to the level of an outrage makes them correct, as impossible as that might appear to anyone who has an axon to rub against a dendrite.

You are gilding a turd, encasing it in lucite, engraving the trophy it with loving words, mounting against a dayglo background and handing it to brainless idiots to be used to help in their campaign to club your candidate to death.

You made Sean Hannity's week. Ann Coulter loves you.

Put it another way: The New Yorker didn't hurt Sen. Obama. You did.

avatar

No you just did.

Here is the official Obama campaign response to the cover. Deal with it.


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/new-ironic-new.html

"Said Obama spox Bill Burton: "The New Yorker may think, as one of their staff explained to us, that their cover is a satirical lampoon of the caricature Senator Obama's right-wing critics have tried to create. But most readers will see it as tasteless and offensive. And we agree."

The Obama campaign has done a buncha stupid things lately. The fact that you're agreeing with them does not enhance your case.

avatar

In your world, the Obamas have no right to decide if they find it offensive. They should let you make the call. I will let them no that you have become their Decider!

That's completely unjustified. You must get really tired of that.

A.) The cover fails as satire and manages to do the opposite of what it was intended to do by demeaning the Obamas. On that basis alone the cover should be vilified and ridiculed for what it is: an elitist failure.

B.) Say nothing and the right-wing will interpret it as it being O.K. to create racist images of Obama in the name of satire. Reject and denounce it, and be lambasted by the right-wing as being overly-PC and humorless.

So if its a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't", then I'd rather be damned by doing and vilifying this sh*t tooth and nail no matter who is publishing it. Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck can suck my ass if they want to write namby-pampy comments like that, because lo and behold, then THEY'LL be the whiners.

I saw what happened when John Kerry and Al Gore decided to be magnanimous and let this stuff pass unabated. Fool me thrice, won't get fooled again. No quarter on crap like this. No quarter.

Kerry let the Swiftboaters pass unabated.

Swiftboaters were serious. This cover is meant to be humorous. Realize the difference. Kerry needed to focus on the serious attackers.

If we whine and cry and act like the huffy-puffy prude on the playground that can't take a ribbing every time something like this -- satire, parody, humor, comedy -- comes up, we aren't going to win.

Focus on the real threats. Better yet, get out into your neighborhoods and get Dems registered. You're basically just masturbating sitting there and crying about a magazine cover.


Damn. Someone agrees with me. As a Republican crypto-troll who hates Americans for their freedom, I'm clearly doing something wrong.

The cover might have been intended as a "joke", but the material it is joking about is deadly serious.

Similarly, if the New Yorker had put out a caricaturist cover of John Kerry wearing a french beret and flip flops running away from his sinking Swift Boat under attack from Viet Cong and leaving his crewmen behind as a "satire" of what the right-wing purported about his military record, I would similarly call it a monumental failure.

The whole reason why the Swift Boat campaign was so successful was because it planted the "cowardly fake-warhero" meme and circulated it far and wide. The whole point was to get that idea out to as many people as possible because and the MSM, rather than exposing it as lies, was complicit in sowing the doubt and rumours. So a cover by the New Yorker that reflected that meme with no context and no headline to mark it as satire would only serve to further spread that meme rather than hinder it.

So yes, it is a "real threat". What other more "real" threats are there to the Obama campaign than insidious lies and rumors based on racism and fear?

BTW, in the same way I "get" the cover, I "get" the ulterior meaning when you use the word "masturbation". As if going out and registering voters is like having "real sex" and expressing one's discontent online or in print makes you a fat, pimply geek who jerks off in front his computer. Masturbation is healthy and natural and so is sex and I say why can't you do both? In fact, if masturbating can get a Democrat a better chance of getting elected President than NOT masurbating, then I say lets get everyone out there masturbating.

In fact lets make it a campaign slogan:

★★ MASTURBATING FOR OBAMA IN 2008! ★★

★★ MASTURBATING FOR OBAMA IN 2008! ★★

Not sure that's a bumper sticker I want on my car.

avatar

"Swiftboaters were serious. This cover is meant to be humorous."

COME ON! Bat, surely you are not this dense?! Since when is HATE humorous unless you are sadistic?

This cover is anything BUT humorous it perpetuates hateful fearmongering sick twisted smears about Obama. The only folks who would find that humorous are those who ALREADY are vilifying Obama with the non-patriotic, muslim HUSSEIN middle name, Michelle hates whites rhetoric!!

I really thought you were way smarter then this.

I suppose you also think as long as someone bandages your wounds after slicing you to shreds that is humorous to watch you quiver and writhe in pain vs. the serious guy who just shoots you in the head?

Puhleeze.

Duh. Yeah, I'm dense. Obviously the New Yorker ran with this because they want their readers to believe that Michelle is a black power radical, Barack is a Muslim, they'll be burning the flag once elected, etc.

I'm too dense to take this as the literal view of the right-wing scum at the New Yorker.

The cover fails as satire...

Perhaps for the humor impaired, you have a point.

...and manages to do the opposite of what it was intended to do by demeaning the Obamas.

Yes, but only because you are making it so.

avatar

It is about The Obamas, and their Campaign has released a statement strongly denouncing the cover. You do not get to decide if the Obamas should be offended of not. They do, and they are.

Of course they have a right to be publicly offended. They also have the right to be stupid. They have exercised both these rights and have drawn even more attention to something they despise. With your indespensible assistance.

BTW, Becks's producer called to confirm that he's interviewing you on his show tonight. They want to be really, really angry with hime. Builds ratings.

avatar

So only you are allowed to have an opinion on this subject, and on this thread. How nice for you.

Is there any way you could translate that into a language you understand?

Pot meet kettle. Yes, I know you are both black, Pot.

This could just as easily apply to all the rage and fury over Barack's stance on the foreign surveillance legislation: "See, those pansy-ass liberals won't even support their own candidate when he wants to protect America."

I think it is just as likely that in the grand scheme of things, democrats having normal human responses to this kind of yellow journalism, whether from the liberal or conservative media, will be a net positive.

The feeling I get from the broad middle of citizens on this kind of stuff - regardless of party - is that America is starting to tact back to a Common Sense oriented politics. There are just certain behaviors, no matter who does it, that offends the conscience.

It may keep the crazies on the right and left foaming at the mouth and ready for a fight, but I think it just reinforces the negative opinion many of us feel with regards to the state of the Republic.

You know, this is just wrong in so many ways, it's going to take me a while to put together an appropriate response.

For now, let's just sum it up with "bullshit." OK?

Your normal, eloquent response to anything resembling criticism of your hypocritical and internally-inconsistent arguments.

Tankard doesn't argue. Tankard evades, diverts and stalls. But Tankard doesn't argue.

You're right. I'm so dumb, I'm even replying to Jason.

Much ado about nothing. Trying to attract attention is all.

That cover is an example of the Left at its self-destructive worst. They think it's funny. They think the satire is "obvious". In the meantime, Middle America looks at that cover and doesn't get the joke. God damn the New Yorker. Let's see 'em put a picture of a wheelchair-bound, diapered John McCain on the cover next. Let's see the laughs that gets from the Right.

We just may manage to lose this election after all.

avatar

Is "unhelpful" to understated a criticism?

avatar

I think the problem is that the cover will get so many more "viewers" than "readers" so it will be taken out of context. I'm an avid Harper's reader, I don't read Atlantic, New Yorker, or even that much Vanity Fair, so I knew nothing of the New Yorker take on things. I saw the cover and had a flash-sick feeling, and got over it. But I thought, Huh, another right-wing magazine that's gone a bit too far. New Yorker readers will get "the joke" but way more people will just see the cover and think "huh, that's kind of what I thought/heard". If Harper's had done it, you wouldn't have seen anything until you got to the article, then you'd have seen the (great-in-context) image and probably thought "Great!" in context.

Yup. That cover will be all most Americans see of the magazine. They'll look at it in the rack and say, "Hmmm... even the New Yorker hates the guy." And the lefties will howl: "If people are so stupid that they don't get the joke, it's their own fault." Either way, you get the same result: another lost election, and another Republican in the White House.

This is death by a thousand cuts.

I appreciate the opposition to this cover but find myself less affected by it. None of the misconceptions and stereotypes that this cover lampoons are exactly new; these absurd accusations called out in the illustration have been trumpeted, responded to and have not stuck except for those dimwits eager to believe them. And the cretins who believe right-wing chicanery do not need this cover to reinforce their views; they are deeply ideological and will likely stay that way for the rest of the campaign, if not time (I still hear Gore jokes about earth tones and inventing the internet). This cover mocks the absurdity of idiots believing truly unbelievable stuff.
The trouble is, we live in the time where halfwits can find "truth" and "facts" in flashes on Fox News, viral e-mails and rumors. Many of the concerns voiced on this thread reflect concern that such dolts will see this image as emblematic of all the unsavory truths about the Obamas. However I tend to think that the New Yorker cover would likely not find its way into their world without a media firestorm propelling it there -- and that's happening.
At the end of the day those who would be see this cover as true in any sense are not New Yorker readers and they more than likely already hold those views. Are we really so scared that satire on one cover of one magazine will influence those currently withholding opinion?
Let us remember, too, that the New Yorker has consistently given us tremendous writing that has exposed Abu Ghraib and many of the darkest, most hidden and nefarious of wrongs perpetrated by the current administration and its myriad machinations. Sy Hersh, Hendrik Hertzberg and George Packer alone have done more to expose truth than any outlet in the MSM.

The danger is always in looking at things from your own perspective. You need to try to imagine how some farmer in Iowa or a rancher in Colorado is going to view this. Folks who don't spend their days reading blogs and newspapers. People who get their news in a single hour at the end of the day. Folks who think electing the "safest" choice is the best option.

They aren't going to get the humor or the subtlety. They're just going to see the picture. And that little pang of anxiety some of us felt when we saw that cover will be the whole truth for them.

Let us remember, too, that the New Yorker has consistently given us tremendous writing that has exposed Abu Ghraib and many of the darkest, most hidden and nefarious of wrongs perpetrated by the current administration and its myriad machinations. Sy Hersh, Hendrik Hertzberg and George Packer alone have done more to expose truth than any outlet in the MSM.

I also like the New Yorker very much and find the reporting to be extremely insightful and incisive. In fact I read it whenever I find myself in someone's waiting room (ha-ha just some satire). Which is why all the outrage. One expects their enemies to shoot me them back, but not their friends to. The New Yorker really is a friend to the liberal cause, but a cover like this is like a inadvertent stab in the back and they should be let known of this loudly and clearly.

avatar

It may be an attempt at satire or lampooning, but it does not fit the definition of a joke. It is quite obvious what sources the depiction were drawn from. That aspect of it is about as subtle as a Carrot Top bit. To me, it is just a piece of simplistic crap being sold as the magic mirror that reveals and cures all warts.

I hear you.

All questions of taste aside, I tend to think of it as visual snark. There are many threads here that are written in the opposite view of the intended message, typically aimed at the TPM audience who are ostensibly tuned to understand the technique and check intent against historical knowledge of said blogger. Invariably, though, there are respondents who are in the dark and miss the point.
Same thing here but on a bigger scale. The New Yorker audience can check their reaction against other, similarly toned covers and knowledge of the artist. Many outside the magazine's readership cannot and the message of the cover is at risk of being misunderstood. So how big is that risk? How bad a reaction can this cover trigger?
I can't see the right waving this magazine as a legitimizing stroke for them. First, it's the New Yorker which is not at all part of the echo chamber and has been a persistent critic. Second, they will understand that it's a mockery of them. It visually represents the whole of their scary tales and by demonstrating its sheer lunacy in one unimaginable image, the cover sucks out the legitimacy of the scare tactics.

avatar

Jeff,

I think you've got it right. The cartoon is a typical New Yorker cartoon and "makes sense" in that context but in no other. Publishing it was as dumb as [pick a new yorker's example of some regional folk they think are especially dumb]... really stupid and being stupid typically causes damage. This already has.

One of the big issues in this election should be the "positive polarization" that has been so successful for the Republican party. Some call it wedge politics. It is always based on some superficial distinction (race, class, education) or human situation that only affects those directly involved (choice, gay marriage, etc) and a false sense of superiority and empowerment.

National politics are supposed to about our common concerns. I do not expect folks to like me or have the same tastes and vice versa. That would be a foolish concern that can only lead to false divisions where common concerns are being considered.

I'd like to hope that events like this and this election itself brings the mutual destructive of this into sharp focus. Most of the time, I think, national politics should be pretty boring. The human cost of this kind of excitement is pretty high.

I do not think much of heroes and saints and villains and demons and all the drama around that. Our power comes from our ability to cooperate with each other when necessary despite differences. That is hard enough to do with the folks in our own community and even in our own family.

The folks at the New Yorker proved themselves to be just like the rest of us: fallible humans. I don't think you can "fix" this kind of screw up. All you can do is to try a bit harder at not screwing up. I'd like to think the editors will make that attempt. It would be appropriate to acknowledge that a mistake was made and to offer no excuse or rationalization. The less said, the better. They will not be able to stop the reverberations.

avatar

It's as simplistic as cartoon of Dick Cheney as an evil pumpkin. That's because it's just a stupid New Yorker cover--it's not supposed to be Guernica. It's just an artist for a weekly magazine depicting what's in the head of the loony right-wing. And just because we think it might have negative repercussions in the media doesn't mean the New Yorker was wrong (or racist--help) to run it.

As a long-time subscriber to The New Yorker, I can say that, without a doubt, it's the source of some of the best journalism (in the truest sense of that word) that's available today (Seymour Hersh, George Packer, and the phenomenal Rick Hertzberg just to name a few). I didn't find the cover to be offensive; it seemed pretty clear that the goal was to illustrate the ridiculousness of the mudslinging directed at the Obamas by highlighting it in the broadest possible way. I can certainly understand why some find it offensive, but taken in the context of a publication that has never engaged in that sort of race-baiting or fear-mongering, it's not at all unreasonable to accept the cover as an attempt at satire (failed or otherwise).

And if The New Yorker (cover art or journalism) has that great an impact on the outcome of an election, than why didn't the repeated observations of the many failings of Bush & Co. change the outcome of the election in 2004? The logic here is pretty weak, and this is Chicken Little-ism at its silliest.

avatar

Yes--the only people who should be offended are the fools who actually think this, or the people in the media who repeat the slurs against the Obamas.

The New Yorker is just doing what it always does here.

Images stay longer in people's minds than words.

These images didn't need to be etched in the memory of anyone.

Both the Obama and McCain campaigns have now come out with statements saying that this cover is tasteless and offensive. I fully support the boycott that's being called for. The cover exploits racism, sexism, jingoism and religious biases. It's tasteless and offensive.

avatar

Ditto and if this is how 'liberals' support Obama with this type of sick hateful fearmongering, what in the world will be left for the GOP to do other than sit back and watch the left, kill their own nominee's candidacy.

Which is why I believe the Clintons are behind this. Their objective is to kill Obama's candidacy so Hillary can pull a coup at the convention, after enough of the electorate has 'buyer'sremorse'...then Hillary will be once again entitled to the nomination.

AmeriKKKA is horrible...and to think RevWright was what America was afraid of instead of liberal enlightened elitists NY intellectuals who subscribe to and work for the New Yorker.

Unbelievable.

avatar

Welcome to a world where we pander to the lowest common denominator. Welcome to a world where a joke is only funny and irony only poignant when we are certain, absolutely certain, everyone will be in on the joke. I am actually disturb, not terribly surprised, but disturbed by this chain of logic. In fact, over the last few weeks I have heard people cry out in disgust against the New Yorker, against people criticizing Obama on FISA and against people who would dare question Obama's fidelity to his promises on Iraq.

Look, I want the Dems to win just as much as anyone else, but I will be damned if it'll be on the back of the world where humor and culture is dictated by the perception of the least amongst us. Everyone of you gets the joke, the joke is about how silly is this hatred and rumormongering. It is not making light of hatred itself, but rather lies so very implausible that the best we can do is mock and depict them. This is a very real picture of the time we are living in, and to provoke this kind of reaction indicates that the art has done its job and done its job well.

I am positive that there is no political downside to this, not even remotely. Discussion of this always entails a response and dialogue. You know why swiftboating worked? Because we ignored it. I promise, if the New Yorker has done a cartoon mocking Kerry's service ironically it would have been the best type of exposure for the Kerry campaign. This cover is not convincing a single person that Obama is Muslim who did not already believe that while it is likely to make quite clear to fence sitters that this is just how much credence these rumors have.

Even if this was a politically dangerous cover to Obama rather than helpful I still wouldn't care. One of the disturbing trends I have noticed on these boards is a complete lack of respect for people who don't agree with the so-called progressive principle. Everyone seems so concerned that people simply won't understand the irony intended or that they'll be spun by the GOP. Maybe the reason this happens so very often is that we don't respect them enough to make everyone a part of this great nation conversation. Political art is a great form of expression that shouldn't be denigrated by the PC-police, or worse the PC for Obama-police. We will win this election this fall, but if we want to win this country we have to have the temerity to believe that our convictions can stand up to criticism, art and expressions of all form.

avatar

Hear hear. The less afraid we are of the smears and the whispers, and the more openly we ridicule them, the less effective they become.

avatar

Perhaps it can be described as The Lethal Results Of Careless "Friendly Fire".

When you decide to bombard the foe, it is always best to make sure that you do not end up bombarding your own side instead.

"Friendly Fire", which should be called Faulty Fire, is often the most lethal, because it comes from those who are supposed to have your back,and you can not return fire, like you can against the foe.

Well I don't see anyone burning the editors at NYM or the cartoonist in effigy or the nation becoming Denmark over this.

On the other hand, I think it's perfectly fine for people to protest the reinforcement of offensive stereotypes. Sure, NYM can be a pretty damned good publication, but this is just snide and potentially destructive (to what degree I confess I cannot predict at this point).

How bad is it really for them to know the feeling of having their arrogant asses chewed out? Personally, I love the image of their phones ringing off the hook today and their emails and customer service databanks filled to overflowing with people who aren't telling them how simply divine they are for a change. Reality checks are good for the soul.

avatar

Sigh, but this isn't deserving of criticism, nor is it reinforcing stereotypes. It is only doing it because everyone assumes that the populace is too dumb to get in on the joke. That is the height of offensive, talk about arrogant. I am not sure the editors of the New Yorker are the ones that require humbling.

avatar

It is not a joke. The New Yorker does not claim that it is a joke. No matter how often people keep claiming that it is, that does not make it one. Jokes have a punchline. This was an attempt at something else, such as satire, or lampooning.

I happen to think that it was a very poor attempt. It was the New Yorker attempting to remove a brain tumor with a chainsaw.

avatar

Liam, like many others in this debate, youre too quick to fall into an us vs them paradigm. The New Yorker's enemy is ignorance and dull-mindedness, which yes, often happens to coincide with the GOP/right wingers. Their enemy is not the McCain campaign.

Kudos to Marcus' comment above. Obama may be a fine presidential candidate, and surely his win will improve America's lot, but he is not the goal we should all strive for. If we sacrifice our rational faculties in a rush to pillory any and all perceived threats, we wont have anything left to enjoy the spoils of victory with.

avatar

I am not against The New Yorker. I am against mistakes or poor decisions. I happen to feel that this was a very poor attempt at taking on the lies that have been spread about the Obamas. That is why I labeled it as perhaps been a case of friendly fire, doing more harm than good, despite the good intentions of the publication.

I wonder why they decided to do this now. Those lies and smears have been out there for a long time, and they actually appeared to be on the wane. Why did the New Yorker pick this time to enter the fray.

Would it not have been far more effective to show the Obamas in Church, and then use the cartoon as an illustration alongside a detailed article that spelled out all the specific falsehoods being spread, their origins, and rebuttals of them.

In the words of Clara Peller, "where's the beef". OK, feel free to deal out a pun on those of us who appear to be beefing.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/e/ee/Wheres_the_beef_commercial.jpg

avatar

I just don't see how its a "poor attempt". It assimilates all of the false criticisms (which dont really appear to be on the wane at all) into one image to show how patently absurd they are when looked at together.

Again, what are we afraid of? Why can't Americans handle thought processes these types of images provoke? The Obama's in church? How would that be thought provoking or clever? The New Yorker isn't Obama's campaign brochure, it is beholden to the standards of taste and intellectualism of its audience, which it surely understands.

avatar

The reason why I feel it was a poor attempt is because all it did was present the image; and left it up to people's existing knowledge to decide what it meant. If you already knew that the claims were false, the image added nothing knew to your awareness. If you were one of those who had heard the rumors but had not delved into if any of them were factual, the image did not enlighten you, and a detailed article would have.

avatar

edit: added nothing new. Hand me down fingers are failing me. I will purchase a new set, as soon as my McCain gas tax holiday kicks in!

avatar

Liam asks:
"wonder why they decided to do this now. Those lies and smears have been out there for a long time, and they actually appeared to be on the wane. Why did the New Yorker pick this time to enter the fray."


Because quiet as it is keep those very same elitist intellectuals that subscribe to the NewYorker and have 5thAve partys rarely have, if ever, a person of color in their midsts...so if truth be told...they consider it being satirical of the very same fearmongering and racial slurs they discuss openly at those very 'colorless' social gatherings.

It is a myth that it is solely redneckstarsandbars crowd that engage in this racial slandering and doubt. RACISM is alive and well with the moneyed crowd in NY, no matter how 'liberal' they claim to be.

The big money donors are probably the ones who are out at the parties encouraging this nasty hateful dialogue as they wanted Hillary who they have bought and paid for to be the nominee. Having bet on the losing horse they now are out to derail the winner 'by any means necessary'

Good ol Willie Clinton showed them that racial polarizing was the only strategy which would work. He made sure to leak to the press that Obama could 'kiss his ass'.

THAT's why this is being done now...they are piling on..between Jesse, the flipflopping and muslim fearmongering'...it is a full scale assault on Obama. Not just from the rightwing corporate controlled media but also from the left liberals who control the Democratic party and have the Clintons as their puppets already.

Make no mistake Obama is as much of a threat to the Democratic power base in the Democratic party as well as he is to corporate media.

His candidacy does inDEED represent change as he has not had to kowtow and sell his soul to the lobbyists like the Clintons did to get to the heights of the oval office.

Only Obama has masterfully and strategically changed the playing field and they are out to take him down...spurred on by the progressive netroots who themselves were STOOPID enough to oppose the one candidate who they KNEW was the gamechanger.

This is classic power play by the ruling money classes and corporate gamemanship.

Obama is a threat. He has galvanized the masses and the only proven tool to keep folks like Obama out is racial polarization. White folks have again and again shown that they will vote on the basis of race over their economic interests.

2008 will be no different.

avatar

On his PBS show, John McGlaughlin just referred to Senator Obama as "an Oreo".

It's unfortunate that the New Yorker published this cover, but it's not a departure from their cover philosophy. They always go for satire and social commentary, and that's always a tricky thing to get across.

The problem is how it's been picked up. From Media Matters this morning:

In a July 13 online poll, the conservative website WorldNetDaily.com asked readers to "[s]ound off on the New Yorker's cover with turban-wearing [Sen. Barack] Obama, gun toting wife [Michelle Obama]" by choosing one of 12 options, including the factually baseless options: "Funny, because there's some truth in it" and "The image isn't too far from the dangerous truth about the Obama family." While the New Yorker said in a press release that its cover "satirizes the use of scare tactics and misinformation in the Presidential election to derail Barack Obama's campaign," for a majority of respondents to WND's poll, the cover apparently provided support for their false perceptions of Obama's religion and patriotism: As of 10:07 a.m. ET on July 14, the most popular option in the poll—selected by 60 percent of WND respondents—was "The image isn't too far from the dangerous truth about the Obama family." The second-most popular option was "Funny, because there's some truth in it," which was selected by 11 percent of respondents.

This is where the damage lies. It's not the New Yorker's fault that the United States has a lot of ignorance and prejudice and doesn't get satire.

I can agree that this was ill advised for the New Yorker (because they "misoverestimated" the sophistication of those who are not regular readers), but I can't condemn them. This cover isn't going to change anyone's minds about the Obamas; those who see Obama as a dangerous Muslim and his wife as a black radical are going to believe that no matter what the New Yorker puts on its cover.

The New Yorker is not the enemy; the proponents of ignorance are. Please focus your ire on them and not on the magazine that has long provided Sy Hersh with a venue to reveal the secrets and abuses of this administration.

Contact:
WorldNetDaily
PO Box 1087
Grants Pass, OR 97528
(541) 474-1776
FAX: (541) 474-1770

Of course, this poll is to the faithful, who will answer, probably, not as they believe it to be, but as they want people to see it. So the 60% represent conservative assholes, not a sampling of the general public. I'm not sure what good it will do to contact the WorldNet Daily folks, as they are no doubt quite content with what they are doing. If anyone does, let me know what kind of reception you get.

Thanks for taking this discussion from the realm of the hypothetical into the real world of damage the New Yorker's cover has done, and will do, to the Obama campaign.

avatar

It IS the NewYorker's fault, they ARE to blame.

If they are so EFFIN intelligent and so friggin bright about social issues how the HELL do they not get the DEPTH of IGNORANCE and RACIAL HISTORY of America?

Are you trying to suggest they do not know the succes of the southern strategy? Are you suggesting they do not know that NO WHITE Democratic candidate has received the majority of the white vote since 1964?

If they and their readership are so hellfired intelligence as to understand satire how the hell did they miss the racial polarized history of American politics?

Did they understand the terms, gooks, kikes, spics?

Or are they just so insular and STOOPID despite all their elitist educated LIBERAL minds?

Umm...you guys do know what kind of site WorldNetDaily is, right? It's beyond Rush-style right wing, to the Savage-Wiener, tinfoil hat zone. I'd bet that if you put up a poll there asking for terms to define the candidates, a majority would call McCain a Marxist. I wouldn't get wound up about that.

Just as an example, a couple of pages down below the New Yorker story at WND is:

Did UFO buzz President Bush's Crawford ranch?

avatar

Liam,

You argue that it would have been more "effective" to show the Obamas in church. This term is indicative of the larger problem with your view of this situation. The New Yorker is not a propaganda machine or an arm of the Democratic Party. Their job is not create the best view of Obama or support a cause, but rather create, in the case, art.

The art is ironic and satirical. It is a joke in a more serious sense, not as in ha ha ha, guffaw, guffaw, but the deeper humor that tells more about who we are. But I would also take exception with the idea that your idea would have been more effective. Look at the conversation we are getting about this. As I said earlier, this discussion is only going to be to the benefit of Obama. In the end, no new people are going to believe this because of a cartoon on the New Yorker's cover, but some just may be persuaded to realize how ironic all of this is.

But either way, everyone seems to be dancing around the bigger issue. These rumors are part of the zeitgeist of our time. It's no worse than when Time names a totalitarian dictator or otherwise reprehensible character as Time's Person of the Year. Art need not be politically expedient, it should merely convey both truth and beauty, and the passion this has sparked has made it worthy.

avatar

I am all for art that conveys truth and beauty. Your own words have just condemned the cover, since it did neither.

Sigh. Both campaigns have even said it's tasteless. But I guess everyone should just STFU because it's the New Yorker.

Thankfully we're not that deferential to the Old Gray Lady anymore. Maybe someday we'll all be able to knock the New Yorker when we think they've crossed a line.

avatar

And luckily the New Yorker can knock right back. If Blitt and Remnick's statements today dont amount to a coded "fuck all yall", then I dont know what does.

avatar

Apphouse,

Seriously, your argument is that we should agree with both campaigns? Of course they were. Obama is using this to make political hay and McCain has no choice but to repudiate it.

If you'd read arguments instead of existing within your own righteous indignation you would realize the argument as nothing t0 do with it being the New Yorker, but rather that this is a legitimate expression of the contemporary political moment. If I am going to choose between allowing and censoring expression, I will always side with allowing.

I am sorry that I am responding a lot here, I try not to comment too much, but this issue has really got me going. It's important this not become a party that wants to dismiss expression and opposition outright because of the damage it might do.

I would also like to suggest that the people who want to criticize Obama for what I think was a genuine reaction, read Audacity of Hope, or at least the part where he describes how he felt after news broke that the mastermind behind 9/11 had a name similar to his. He wondered if his career was over. I could only imagine how he felt to see himself depicted the way he was on that cover, next to a picture of Bin Laden. It must have been like having his worst nightmare come true. It brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it.

avatar

True enough, Erline. Obama and his campaign have every right to be offended by this and/or to voice their disapproval. That doesn't change that:

a) this was very clearly intended as satire

b) it's extremely unlikely that low-info voters will find this cover and swing their vote based on it.

Jason Linkins of The Huffington Post explains why it's not satire.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/14/inew-yorkeri-cover-falls_n_112585.html

The New Yorker's automated response to my email about The Cover:

Thank you for writing. We appreciate your comments and, if you have a question, we’ll do our best to respond. However, owing to the volume of correspondence, we cannot reply to every e-mail.

About this week’s issue: Our cover, “The Politics of Fear,” combines a number of fantastical images about the Obamas and shows them for the obvious distortions they are. The burning flag, the nationalist-radical and Islamic outfits, the fist-bump, the portrait on the wall— all of them echo one attack or another. Satire is part of what we do, and it is meant to bring things out into the open, to hold up a mirror to prejudice, the hateful, and the absurd. And that's the spirit of this cover. In this same issue you will also see that there are two very serious articles on Barack Obama inside—Hendrik Hertzberg's Comment, (http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/07/21/080721taco_talk_hertzberg) and Ryan Lizza's 15,000-word reporting piece on the candidate's political education and rise in Chicago (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/21/080721fa_fact_lizza).


It's astounding to me that you think a major magazine unfairly smearing one candidate in a hotly contested election is defensible. As someone pointed out in another blog, it would have been just as outrageous if there was a cover with John McCain surrounded by illegitimate black babies during the 2000 primary.

A good and fair satirical take on the whole affair would have made fun in some way of the perpetrators of the smear. The only people who could get harmed by this cover are the Obamas.

I really can't believe people are not only defending the cover but suggesting Barack Obama is somehow at fault for today's dust-up. Wow. Just wow.

avatar

Here is the real test of if the cover can stand on it's own merits. Do a thought experiment. Imagine that instead of The New Yorker, it was some Conservative publication that published the cover in the very same manner.

If the merits of the cover depend on the political stance of the publisher, then the cover does not speak for itself.

avatar

Again, Liam, you are dumbing down the discourse. Obviously it would have a different meaning if it was divorced from its context as a New Yorker cover. Thats why context is important.

But I contest your point anyway: if a reputable conservative publisher printed the same cover, i imagine it would have the same effect. An astute few would recognize the satire, while a bleating herd would go on bleating.

avatar

No; you are the one engaged in the dumbing down game. You claim that people that are intelligent enough to not believe the rumors recognize that that it is satire, and those that actually believe the rumors, will not get the satire, and will therefore also not change their opinions.

So it neither changes or informs. That is your position. Sounds like you have reduced it down to being just a frivolous vanity cover.

avatar

If a conservative publication put out the cartoon (or something more realistic-looking but with the same content) and meant it sincerely, they would look ridiculous. They would face a storm of criticism and would either be labeled a nuthouse, or they would repudiate the cover completely.

And this, of course, is exactly the point of the cartoon. The New Yorker, a rather liberal publication, is putting all the smears into one big ball just to show how ridiculous it all is. What that cartoon says is: "See? This is why the rumors are left to anonymous e-mails or to oblique indirect comments about patriotism. Because when ever anyone actually stops to think about what these attacks are saying, it's impossible to overcome the absurdity of it."

I don't know. It's very hard to do that. All I know is that I felt sucker punched to see it splashed across the Huffington Post this morning. I can't even stand to look at it.

The reaction of the author of this blog and many contributors confirms that many Americans doe not know or believe Obama. Otherwise everyone would get the satire and there would be no worries.

Obama will not be president.

And since there are no Bears around here, the Bear Patrol must be working perfectly!!!

avatar

The speculations and concerns of high-information voters as to what they think low-information voters might be exposed to or base decisions on, is not exactly a good thing to base your predictions on.

Nobody on this thread, as far as I can see, actually believes the rumors advanced by the cover. My guess is that VERY, VERY FEW low-info voters will see this cartoon or hear about it, and even fewer will be influenced by it.

Obama will get over 300 EVs, and a larger percentage of the vote than any Democrat in 44 years. He will cruise to the oval office.

avatar

A Fogu2, the perpetual Obama hating troll has arrived and tossed one of usual turds in the punch bowl.

He is clueless as usual. If everyone got the so called satire, then there would be no need for the satire. Clearly Fogu2 does not have the faintest notion of what function satire performs.

Back to the Fugu2, the imbecilic troll.

"If everyone got the so called satire, then there would be no need for the satire."

Clearly the stupidest statement of the day.

CONGRATULATIONS!

The New Yorker is just too damn smug for their own good.

The cover can't stand on its own, and needs too much editorializing to put it in its context.

Sure, we get it, but is it really helpful to do this, when it just feeds into the politics of fear they are satirizing?

What good is satire if it is only designed to elicit a few chortles from pockets of Manhattan and San Francisco?

You have to do more than preach to the choir to impress me, for one.


McCain could have said, "Much ado about nothing."

Then again, he has surrogates to do that.

Sorry, I think this cover was meanspirited. Doesn't mean the magazine doesn't have its merits, but this really WAS tasteless. Arrogant as well.

I sense impasse. C'est la flippin' vie.

avatar

Things are going dark as we enter the long tunnel of our own Stalinist security state. Habeas Corpus is gone and in its place we will have show trials. Privacy is gone and in its place is a government database maintained by the NSA, a super computer emulation of the Russian GRE and KGB surveillance apparatus. And so on. All if this is motivated by fear. Then along comes an image, a cartoon that satirizes this fear. What is the reaction? More fear. It is too subtle and will be misunderstood or misused. Its intended audience will appreciate it but someone, somewhere may not. And much more as you can read in the comments here.

And so isolated, vulnerable and left in the dark we retreat into our minds only to face one more fear, the fear of being identified as “intelligent.”

avatar

Here is a list of the Conde Nast publications that you can cancel subscriptions to. Donate the money to Obama instead.

Vogue
W
style.com
Glamour
Allure
Self
Teen Vogue
GQ
Details
Men's Vogue
men.style.com
Architectural Digest
Brides
Modern Bride
Elegant Bride
Brides.com
Lucky
Domino
Cookie
Golf Digest
Golf World
Golf for Women
Vanity Fair
Gourmet
Bon Appétit
epicurious.com
Condé Nast Traveler
concierge.com
Wired
Wired.com
Condé Nast Portfolio
Portfolio.com
The New Yorker

avatar

Why stop there? Reading ANY magazine wastes valuable time that could be better used raising money for Barack Obama!

Hey, let's all stop donating money to Obama's campaign. The money could best be put to use by giving it to Obama directly!

avatar

No need for such a boycott. That is going way too far. They are not the bad guys, even if we think they made a bad decision in this case. Who doesn't from time to time.

Great idea! And use the money you save to subscribe to some Murdock publications!

Calm down, calm down. I agree that it skirts the frontiers of good taste, but don't become apoplectic. If they accused Obaba of something truly bad, like supporting Bush/Cheney on illegal wiretaps, or supporting the FISA bill, then you could go after them and call for a boycott. Or, if they accused Obama of waffling on his promises to end the occupation in Iraq, then you could go after them and call for a boycott. But this is only satire, no? Stay calm.

I'm joining the conversation late (about 180 comments in) so if i'm repeating any one, i apologize.

Personally, the cover doesn't rile me up. I see and understand why some are offended, but i myself am not.

Some context: When i was writing for my high school newspaper, i wrote a piece of satire. At least, i though it was satire. Apparently, I was the only person in the school who "got it". It was basically me pointing out, perhaps in a not very clever way, that our school was rather clique-ish. I pointed out all the various "cliques" and blasted them.

Now, my intention was to show that the way we divide ourselves amongst each other is rather silly. that really we're all basically a part of the same group.

However, I discovered that what may be obvious satire to some, is just a mean-spirited diatrabe to others.

My story caused a big hullaballo, but in fairness i was an equal opportunity offender. Everyone who deserved it, got a shot. the principal came down and yelled at me and told me i had no business writing junk like that for the school paper.

I tried to make my case, but i've always been better in written arguments and debates than in verbal confrontations so I just sat there and took it.

That experience made me more sympathetic to people who push the envelope and make us confront things we may not like to in a manner we're not used to dealing with it. It also strengthened my belief in the 1st amendment and my freedom of speech.

We must not forget that even the most offensive, disgusting works(i'm not grouping this particular cartoon in here) have a right to be published.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. If the ideas are wrong, publish them and they will be proven so. If they are right, they just might change the world.

Anyways...

It's just a freakin' cartoon.

avatar

Well in that case, as long as it is just a cartoon that they forgot to write a payoff caption for, and not the magical mirror that both reveals and eliminates all warts, that the publisher has claimed it is, then we can ignore it.

O Ye take the Highbrow, and I'll take the Lowbrow,
And I'll be in Scoffland before Ye!


http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/y/B/2/whiner.jpg

avatar

When did the publisher make any such claim? It's Blitt's detractors that seem to be attaching such momentous importance to this cover, which is just one of the 40-odd covers they will publish this year.

avatar

I notice that you just showed up today for this one topic, and you sure are busy pushing the corporate line. You do not let facts get in your way.

Here is what the creator of the image said. I would imagine he would be privy to what the intentions were. Now go away you dreary little shill.


Over at Huffington Post, cartoonist Barry Blitt defends his work: "I think the idea that the Obamas are branded as unpatriotic [let alone as terrorists] in certain sectors is preposterous. It seemed to me that depicting the concept would show it as the fear-mongering ridiculousness that it is."

avatar

If the No.1 reason I'm growing to detest my homeland is the unchecked power of the right, the No. 2 reason is the brain-dead level of its political discourse. Here's a rare piece of magazine-cover content that gives readers credit for having a high school-level grasp of satire, and even in this forum, most of the lefties with whom I'm politically allied either don't get the joke or assume all dem rubes living outside Manhattan are going to read the cover as a right-wing hatchet job. Looks like hope takes a little too much audacity for some of y'all.

So go ahead and whine that the New Yorker is irresponsible for not assuming its readers are pea-brained. And watch while our collective IQ keeps drying up like a Brazilian rainforest.

Obama's entire success to this point is based on the premise that people are smarter, less bigoted and more willing to be challenged than they are widely assumed to be. So far, it has been the most inspiring thing I've observed in politics since perestroika. If the New Yorker cover had the power to work in any significant way against him -- and sheesh, people, it doesn't -- he'll lose this election by a landslide anyway. The "outrage" expressed by the Obama and McCain camps is a transparent and harmless bit of campaign kabuki, like Obama sticking a flag pin on his lapel once in a while.

A point that hasn't been noted, by the way: Imagine some Dittohead who wouldn't otherwide pick up the New Yorker interprets the cover to suggest it supports his worldview -- and, intrigued, buys a copy. And gets to the article inside and finds himself reading a well-written article on Obama that subverts his cherished prejudices, or at least forces him to think. That's worth 10 people who'll tear the cover off and pin it up on the bulletin board at the KKK meeting.

Death by a thousand cuts means that no one issue is needed to sink a campaign. Stereotypes, prejudice and lack of context is not as susceptible to logic as your comment suggests. The issue was never with us "not getting it" but more a matter of how our political environment ensures that for every person who "gets it" at least one other person will have vague rumors confirmed.

Shut the fuck up.

How many times over the past 7 years have we all laughed our heads off over cartoons portraying GWB as a dunce, a Hitler, a drunk, a coke-addict, etc? Hundreds. And here's this cute little drawing on the cover of what is the essence of pussy-ass smarmy NY yuppie narcissism -- making fun of one of its own, Barack Obama, candidate of smarmy yuppie narcissism -- and all the keyboard dweebs across the Net start weeping in outrage into their double-shot Jamaican jackhammer espressos.

Shut the fuck up.

avatar

But the publishers claim it's *not* making fun of him, but rather of some benighted individuals' idea of him. Your post perfectly illustrates how wrong they were.

avatar

How about a satirical cover of McCain next week??

Lets compose it.. McCain Hugging Bush, both dressed in SS uniforms... in the background is Cindy in floozie costume, while first wife and kids are sobbing in dire straights in the background...And of course his black baby from the 2000 primary season....In his hand is the 49th page of the (unreleased) medical report certifying a diagnosis of Alzheimer's and uncontrolled aggressive tendencies
On the wall is a picture of McCain in a North Vietnamese prison hospital -- being implanted with a chip in his brain (Wow--he really is the Manchurian candidate) ... There is also a framed letter of thanks from Bin Laden for not wanting to target him in Pakistan

Maybe other readers can add more images to help the cartoonist on his next satirical cover???

avatar

How about a satirical cover of McCain next week??

Lets compose it.. McCain Hugging Bush, both dressed in SS uniforms... in the background is Cindy in floozie costume, while first wife and kids are sobbing in dire straights in the background...And of course his black baby from the 2000 primary season....In his hand is the 49th page of the (unreleased) medical report certifying a diagnosis of Alzheimer's and uncontrolled aggressive tendencies
On the wall is a picture of McCain in a North Vietnamese prison hospital -- being implanted with a chip in his brain (Wow--he really is the Manchurian candidate) ... There is also a framed letter of thanks from Bin Laden for not wanting to target him in Pakistan

Maybe other readers can add more images to help the cartoonist on his next satirical cover???

We can't run scared.

Fox is going to find something to wave around and be incensed over, and yes, they will use this cover against him. But without the cover they would find something else to feed people's fears.


avatar

The voters that we have to win over do not do nuance. That is why W. and Reagan spent sixteen years in the White House. The races get decided by those who vote based on who the would enjoy having a beer with. Reagan and W. won that group.

You never hear anyone claiming that a key voting block is those who you would enjoy having a martini with while discussing the new edition of The New Yorker. Like it or not; Joe and Jill Six Pack will elect the next President, as they have decided all of them from FDR to the present day.

"...those very same elitist intellectuals that subscribe to the NewYorker and have 5thAve partys rarely have, if ever, a person of color in their midsts...so if truth be told...they consider it being satirical of the very same fearmongering and racial slurs they discuss openly at those very 'colorless' social gatherings."

I call bullshit on this. That statement sounds a whole lot like the ani-intellectualism pervading the GOP, the school of thought that seems to say that any educated (self-educated or otherwise) or well-informed person is an "elitist" and not a "real American."

Moreover, your suggestion that the magazine's subscribers engage in wholesale racial slurs at their 5th Avenue, lily-white parties tells me that you've had zero exposure to the people you're referring to. I know no one who meets the description you've given. I'm grateful that the bizarrely divided America you describe - one in which pinot noir/latte-drinking, Volvo driving, New Yorker-reading elitists hang out in their million-dollar artist's lofts, making fun of the Nascar-loving, church-going dummies in the red states - isn't the reality.

Like every generalization, there are elements of truth in there (having lived for over a decade in Nebraska before moving to Seattle, I can vouch for that), but thankfully, most people aren't quite so shallow and clueless. My in-laws are deeply conservative Christian fundamentalists, and are perfectly aware of my views on politics and religion (pretty much the polar opposite of theirs), and yet we adore each other. Why? Because there's more to people than the god they worship (or don't), who they vote for, or the magazines they read.

Let's take a breath, shall we? There's really no cause to assume the very worst about thousands of people you've never met, regardless of what experience put such a large and unsightly chip on your shoulder.

avatar

Frankly, I think much of this discussion is intellectual masturbation. I live in Texas and get the New Yorker. I would have been much happier had the editors put an article and the cartoon next to each other inside so people wouldn't be inflamed by it.

People in my neck of the woods would put this up on their refrigerators, point to it and say, "I told you so!" without cracking the cover to read the article and getting the satire. Why give them even a little ammunition to do that. Please.

Some of my neighbors who live in pricey houses and have run successful businesses and should know better, still think Obama is Muslim. I take every opportunity to get in their faces which makes me the rat at any wine and cheese celebration here.

Is Madeleine Albright jewish?

avatar

PBS Newshour has a segment coming up on the New Yorker cover, so it looks like it is much larger than a just a blogosphere storm in a teacup.

Post a Comment

Advertisement
Please disable your adblocker!
Ads are how we pay the bills!

Subscribe

The Coffee House
TPMCafe's regulars

House Brew
From Your Cafe Editor

Special Guests
Big names and big brains

Special Features
Pressing topics and trends

Table for One
An expert's week-long talk.

All Reader Posts
TPM readers discuss.

Book Club Calendar

November 16-20

http://orbooks.com/files/going-rouge-small.jpg

Coming Soon



November 30-December 4



January 12-16



« Book Club ArchiveFull calendar »

Recent Reader Posts

All Reader Posts »





Masthead

Editor-in-Chief
Josh Marshall



Subscribe to TPMCafe's feed.
Subscribe to TPMCafe's reader blog feed.

Advertise Liberally
Share
Close Social Web Email

"To" Email Address

Your Name

Your Email Address