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Roll Call of the Senators who Voted Against Stripping Retroactive Telecom Immunity
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00164
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The correct link is actually this one:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00165
July 9, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for listing this
Campion
July 9, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
May their names live on in infamy.
July 9, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
How convenient. McCain wasn't there...
July 9, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a summary: 37 yeas, 62 nays, and 2 abstain
The following Democrats voted nay: Bayh, Carper, Feinstein, Inouye, Johnson, Landrieu, Lincoln, Mikulski, Nelson (FL), Nelson (NE), Pryor, Rockefeller, Salazar,
Of the independents, Liebermann voted nay, Sanders voted yea.
Specter was the only Republican to vote yea.
Kennedy and McCain did not vote. (I'm guessing Kennedy is still not well enough to show up.)
July 9, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, GOP discipline rules the day.
Again.
July 9, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's really interesting here is how many of the standard water-carriers for Cheney and Bush voted "nay." What does this mean? Inhofe? Vitter? Thune?
July 9, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
It means that they are voting to leave the civil immunity for the Telecoms in the bill. Nay votes are against the motion to not grant the retroactive immunity.
July 9, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
The vote was on the Amendment to restrict telecom immunity in some cases, not the entire FISA bill. The Rs you mention voted the party line.
July 9, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for posting this. I'm glad Obama and Clinton at least voted for immunity... assuming I'm right, and that a yea vote is a vote to remove immunity from the FISA bill.
It doesn't help a lot (especially not in the big picture), but it's something.
And as ClearThinker points out, how convenient that, as with the GI Bill, McCain didn't vote either way.
July 9, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I doff my hat to all those who stand for the constitution. And while I may not agree with Sen. Specter on much, I applaud him on this issue. However, I think the true test of a 'man' is not when it is easy to take a stand, as it was (in my humble opinion) in saying NO to retroactive immunity. The true test will be in voting NO to the entire bill.
Sen. Obama, said he would fillibuster this bill should it rear its head in this unconstitutional manner. Lets hope we see him show true leadership and vote NO.
July 9, 2008 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's going on with Feinstein? Seems like she has shifted to the right of center.
July 9, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the link for the bill itself. Clinton voted nay and Obama yea.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00168
July 9, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I don't say something more, I'll bite my tongue off. The vote was 69 yeas, 28 nays, and 3 not voting.
What did he gain by voting nay? That's all I want to know...what did he gain? The bill would have passed handily without him.
July 9, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
edit s/b by voting yea.
July 9, 2008 4:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
He protects his flank so that McCain can not attacking him for voting against protecting the nation from terrorist plots, and his vote against would not have changed the outcome.
July 9, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
O.K. I guess that makes sense of a sort. More could be said, but I won't. Thanks, Liam.
July 9, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
edit: can not attack him.
Damn hand me down fingers have been failing me all day. Just wait until McCain tax holiday arrives, and I can afford a brand new set of fingers. My ship is due to come in soon. Of course with my luck, when it does, I will be at the airport.
July 9, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
His vote might have changed the outcome had he shown leadership (sorry I guess change has already changed). Instead he chose to vote with the Republicans. Republicans you can believe in?
July 9, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I may not know everything of the inner workings of congress, but I believe that one phone call from Obama to Pelosi (before last week and his "go" signal) and Hoyer's "compromise" bill would never have made it out of the House. If Obama was not consulted on this, it is probably because he didn't want to know.
July 10, 2008 2:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
~Benjamin Franklin
July 9, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
this wasn't about immunizing the telco's, it was about immunizing the Executive....
July 9, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
While I appreciate your comment (1) McCain was absent and did not vote so Obama would have had an immediate come back and (2) as you rightly pointed out, Obama's vote would not have changed the outcome. As such Obama should have stood on principle and by his word. He should have voted against this bill, side by side with the 28 democrats who stood for the constitution. He should not be pandering to, nor be afraid to take a stand against those who would take away the very liberties so many have worked (and indeed died) to protect. I can on reiterate the words of Benjamin Franklin "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
July 9, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
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