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Obama Needs To Fight Back....NOW.
My frustration with Senator McCain and the Republicans has officially peaked after the weekend, and I really don't know how it can possibly grow larger. I'm sure they'll figure out a way, though.
But now, my frustration turns to our guy. Yes, Barack Obama has promised to usher in an era of a new politics and change how Washington is run and all that jazz. That does not mean, however, that you cannot attack your opponent. The trick to an honest attack on your opponent is to do so in a way that McCain has neglected some time ago: base it on facts and not extrapolations or assumptions.
If McCain is always there for our troops, does his voting record prove it? Since when does serving in a past war equate to supporting present troops? I'm not saying he doesn't support the troops; what good American doesn't? But this is a fact that McCain has been able to hide from for the most part, mainly because of the Vietnam "aura", if you will.
If McCain thinks Obama's past position on the surge was a bad idea, then why won't he reconsider his position of, you know, going to war in the first place and spending $10 billion a month since 2003 on it? It's conceivable that McCain is just as "stubborn", yes? And the surge is a small piece of this jigsaw puzzle...yet he's basing his entire campaign on being right on this and hoping Americans forget about the war and why the hell we're there in the first place. Obama's smart, and I'm sure he has something in the works for the days ahead. He needs to get on the offensive and do so with the issues and not this petty smearing that the McCain camp is stooping to.
And about this surge...can we at some point stop talking about it? There's another problem here that's directly related to the war, I think it's called, um, the economy? How about we shift the debate back into our court on this one. This talk about the surge is where the right wing wants us; this is the only area where they can win. McCain can't really corner Obama on these issues...at least not yet. Maybe he can forget about where he stands, act confused and befuddled, and then adopt Obama's position as if it was his all along, but I don't think he can pull that off again.
Nonetheless, I think Obama needs to tie the war in Iraq directly to our problems at home with the economy, the debt, and how effectively ending this war can positively influence other aspects of our nation's economic and diplomatic standing in the world.
Seriously, though--can he do anything without being criticized? If he did visit the troops in Germany, then the right would complain about it being a "political" visit. He could try and defend himself, but then he'd be seen as trying to "prove" his patriotism, and nobody under any circumstance should have to do that. I guess the only thing he can do is to gradually shift to points where the Dems will always win and then go back to the war and national security. However, I think the more Obama gets "on his heels", the softer he will be perceived, and McCain could damage him as much as the swiftboad ads did to Kerry back in '04.
What say you? How does Obama handle McCain's attacks (and/or counterattack), how can he prove to Americans that McCain's full of it, and where does he go from now until the convention?








Comments (18)
I understand your frustration...I'm obsessing about the same things you're mentioning. My husband keeps reminding me that Obama's campaign people are EXTREMELY bright...they got him this far and we need to trust that they know what they're doing...
Afterall, we can't have it both ways. He's either a different kind of politician or he's not...
We can do our part by registering Dems, talking up Obama w/ our friends, family and anyone who will listen, helping to debunk rumors, passing along positive e-mails to everyone on our contact lists, getting involved w/ our local Obama groups, writing letters to the editor of our local newspapers, proudly let everyone you know know that you support Obama and why...
Keep the faith! And try to use all that pent up frustration positively!
July 28, 2008 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
"If McCain is always there for our troops, does his voting record prove it?"
Did you see Olbermann's tour de force on this tonight on Countdown? It was superb.
I really relate to how you're feeling, teemunny. I don't share the common consensus that he has a brilliant campaign team in terms of communications and message and they all proved us wrong by winning the primary. (By us I mean those of us who were worried about his campaign after Texus.) I think everyone who thinks his campaign is brilliant and knows what it's doing forgets that the only reason he won the nomination was Clintons' team's incredible mismanagement: taking for granted it would all be over on Super Tuesday and not working the caucus states thus ceding a mathematical advantage she could never overcome.
I think it's a huge flaw for Obama that he himself cannot reconcile a conflict he perceives between his theme of change and new politics on the one hand and negative campaigning. I think he's hugely handicapped by this perception of his. I agree with you that it's a false choice. I suspect his staff believe it is too.
I don't believe you can win a major campaign such as this, especially when it's as close as it is, without attack politics. They work. The republicans are going to do such a hit job on Obama it'll make the Kerry campaign look like a relative honeymoon. If Obama isn't prepared to do a hit job on McCain - both on his character/conduct of the campaign and his policies - then I think he'll go down the gurgler. Because we've seen it so clearly now: with the exception of MSNBC, the media is spouting all the McCain camp's junk, it's being far more critical of Obama, it's not going to do the job for Obama. He and his surrogates are going to have to do it themselves.
Here's hoping I'm wrong.
(My one ray of hope is that McCain is so clearly poor on facts and can be so irascible when he doesn't like his opponent and gets challenged that Obama absolutely creams him in the debates. But no doubt McCain's advisers know this just as well as everyone else and prepares him against it.)
July 28, 2008 11:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I did see Olbermann tonight; I watch him every night without fail now :-)
I really do hope the debates put the nail in McCain's coffin. If America hasn't it figured it out by then...well, Lord have mercy on us. As far as attacks go, I think Obama can focus on issues more than other Democratic nominees because of how much the issues (in theory) should favor him. He has to set the agenda and frame the issues before McCain can--the right has made a killing off of their framework ever since 9/11. It's about time we lay out where 7+ years of fear has gotten our country before they lay out how it's such a "good thing" that we haven't been attacked since 9/11 because neocon policies obviously have worked wonders...
July 29, 2008 12:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe Obama figures that reinventing political Washington and the way people get elected will take a couple of tries. The reinvents the Dem Party this time, even if he loses the general, then wins the general next time?
July 29, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meh.
I think they're doing pretty good. Keep in mind that we're still 100 days out. Also keep in mind that most Americans really couldn't give a crap precisely why Obama was forced to cancel a visit to a hospital in Germany. And the people who really care about that story do so, mainly, because they're *already* passionately partisan Republicans or Democrats.
Swing voters aren't interested. Mainly, they want to know that Obama is going to save their job and make gas cheaper. So I think the economic summit today will turn out to have been a better use of time than counter-punching.
But Obama is capable of loading for boar when it's called for. In SC, he (briefly) ran some very negative ads against HRC.
But that's not the game plan. Right now, he's introducing himself to the electorate, and establishing credentials.
July 29, 2008 12:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Mainly, they want to know that Obama is going to save their job and make gas cheaper."
Alex, how do you think they're going to see Obama as the answer to their problems when it's McCain who's promising drilling and lying to people about how long it will take to come online and portraying Obama as Dr No?
Most people want offshore drilling - only fervent conservationists & climate change adherents don't. Most people in the US don't believe climate change is manmade. (67%) How do you think people who are struggling are going to feel about Obama talking about switching to energy efficient cars? They're trying to survive - the idea of having to buy a new car will send them straight to the polls for McCain I imagine.
It's distressing but I can't see how Obama can possibly win this election with his energy policies. Only people who are comfortably off will be able to afford to vote for him. I think we're going to see it soon in the generic Democrat polls too.
July 29, 2008 8:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
I’m leaning towards wanting offshore drilling—but the problem, quite frankly, is that Americans don’t really like to think critically. Obama’s looking at this from a long-term perspective, but Americans don’t care about a solution that will make things better in the long run. Drilling here may be a good thing but I’m just not convinced that McCain is serious about alternative sources: if he drills then he’ll “think” we can ease up on alternatives, and I believe we’ll still have this same problem 5-10 years down the line.
I guess the question is how can Obama communicate his plans to America in a simple, yet succinct manner? Obama can have great plans--but if your simple undecided voter doesn’t bother to look into it himself, he/she very well could go with McCain, who has a one or two word answer to everything. Energy? Drill! Social security? Privatize! Iraq? The surge worked! Taxes? Obama raises them! Sure he’s on the wrong side of these issues or is lying, but (ignorant) Americans understand 3-word answers even if they’re wrong.
July 29, 2008 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, you're right, offshore drilling is a difficult issue for us. I'm not saying there are no obstacles out there. I'm saying: let's focus on the actual obstacles, and not get obsessed with the day-to-day he said / she said stuff.
July 29, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
About drilling for oil offshore. I just recently got back from a family vacation to Jackson Hole, in Wyoming. Driving through the state, we spoke to many residents there, who I would guess are mainly Republicans. They were highly critical of the plan to drill offshore, because there are a number of producing wells in the state, that have been capped. I got mixed explanations as to the reasoning, but the explanations ranged from excessive regulation to lack of refining capacity. There are also apparently 2 large oil refineries in Casper that have been shut down.
Statements I heard over and over again:
1. Oil companies like high oil prices.
2. Refining capacity is available, but will cost the oil companies too much money.
3. The offshore drilling proposal is mainly trying to weaken drilling restrictions, and environmental protections, not to create more oil reserves.
4. Oil production in the US is much more complicated than the media and politicians understand.
No links or other evidence, but it was interesting to me, because I expected Wyoming republicans to be all for the offshore drilling proposal. I don't think the American people have anywhere near the information to decide yes or no on offshore drilling.
July 29, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is just beginning.We all knew it was coming. It takes guts to be a political junkie.
We can take comfort in the fact our candidate has run a nearly flawless campaign, so put your faith in Barack's strategy. Make your points to the MSM, write your local media, contact your representatives, get involved with raider99 & Ripper.
It will take all of us to take back our country. It won't be easy, but just keep thinking how your going to feel on November 4 when the winner, praise be, is Barack Obama.
July 29, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I completely agree with you. McCain has made some pretty serious 180's over the past two weeks (more troops in Afghanistan, negotiations with Iran, Iraq timetable, etc), and if Obama's campaign can't capitalized on that, I don't know what he can capitalize on.
I think Obama's press team is complacent. They don't know how to manage the press well and they're letting McCain dominate the news cycles.
That's not how you run a campaign. Instead of viewing this from the perspective of -- "Obama's still ahead of McCain" -- we should be asking -- "Why the hell isn't Obama further ahead?"
July 29, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Instead of viewing this from the perspective of -- "Obama's still ahead of McCain" -- we should be asking -- "Why the hell isn't Obama further ahead?"
I couldn't agree more with that one. I disagree with the notion that McCain's dominating the news, at least regarding the past couple weeks. But if you heard about the George Mason study, McCain is getting more positive coverage. The right equates "more" coverage with "better" coverage, but this of course isn't always the case (ask Bill Clinton around 1998 or so).
But this is a bottom-up movement, and Obama has shown that he can win with many small people and not a few bigwigs. It's not always the media or the right wing to blame when elections don't go our way. It may be best to start by looking in the mirror.
July 29, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see your point. I get these Kerry flashbacks when he was getting slammed with the Swiftboat stuff and was doing nothing, or at least nothing intelligently aggressive. And this Gallup poll with McCain ahead with consideration to the historical aspects of that poll 100 days out predicting the winner of the campaign makes me get quivers thinking that the worst-and it would be the worst-might happen. Yet, I see that Obama's team is sharp, mindful of the same worries all of us have, and hard-hitting when they need to be.
They have a plan which McCain's campaign which is infighting and frustrated apparently don't as their ads are demonstrating. I think that Obama sort of has things on automatic and is letting McCain beat himself. The fact that McCain is on the ugly attack so soon which I'm sure will accelerate as things heat up shows that he's an empty shirt: A verb, a noun, POW, offshore drilling and Iraq...blah, blah, blah.
The Clintons really did help improve his abilities as a candidate, his toughness and his campaigns readiness to fight. I think there's a lot to hit McCain on and they are just holding fire until they really need to. There is enough time and they're patient enough to let the truth and facts do the battle for them. For instance this whole dust-up about McCain's lie about Obama hating the troops and canceling his military base visit in Germany because he wasn't able to bring cameras. It was such a big fib, that even though the media needed a little push they're coming out with stories now (NBC, NYT, Wash Post) saying that McCain was doing more than exagerating.
The RNC's stupid Facebook parody is sinking and being thrown back in their faces; Ted Stephens was indicted; McCain had a chunk of his face removed...the political gods are raining gifts upon Democrats and dung on the Republicans. Still, they enjoy dung and Democrats have a noted talent for letting opportunity slip away.
July 29, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
pheww, so i am not the only one worried? the longer obama waits to refute mccain's exaggerations, the higher the probability that he will lose....PERIOD!
hrc landed some good blows, but believe it or not, she was reserved....the opponent has no reason at all to hold in punches...
there are countless facts to be cited by obama team that can shut mccain up and have him sputter like the temperamental thing that he is...
i hated that new ad by the way...worked for hrc b/c she is a dem..won't work for mccain...make the ads more SIMPLE for the simple-minded....obama believes in education so much that he and his team just can't fathom that this little truth --"we, meaning Americans, are not very smart people! if it requires any thinking, we fold!!!
July 29, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
is it in Obama to defend himself? methinks he may be doing the cantabrigian wuss thang too well.
here is a mccain flipflop on taxes, and the Obama people are deaf. or without a pulse. mccain would have taken advantage. perhaps it's true that Obama doesn't have experience, or he would be all over mccain about it. regardless of the 'gentleman' stance he portrays. it's not going to get him into the white house looking like he's not going to defend himself or our country.
July 29, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, for Christ's sake people. Enough with the Democrat Chicken Dance, already. He's doing fine. The USA Today "likely voter" model, which Gallup concedes is different than the one is used in May, inexplicably assumes that equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans are "likely voters," which is absolute nonsense.
Moreover, unlike us, the other 93% of the country does not live immersed in the blogosphere and the Internet news world where a minute is a day and an hour is an eternity. Three days is plenty quick for a response ad and, if his experience with Hillary is any guide, its pretty much the sweetspot most of the time when it comes to dealing with the low info voters who are most likely to respond to an attack ad--long enough to separate the slurs that have legs from the ones that don't without letting them fester. (And in any case its an incredibly short amount of time in which to create and ad, test it and then get it on the air in the same market as the one its responding to.).
Damn, its like no one remembers last summer. Obama was down 25 points and his supporters and the MSM alike people were running around doing the full Chicken Little over it. "Ooooohhh, ooohhh, he can't get any traction in the polls, oooohh Hillary'w running away with it, ooooh, oohhh, he needs to hit back harder and faster, he needs to run a massive ad campaign, he needs to do this or that and right now! He can't hit back, Ohmigod, ohmigod, ohmigod!"
And Obama held a conference call with his big donors and calmed them the hell down and went back and continued working his plan.
So what's the difference between this summer and last summer? Obama has more money than he did then, his opponent is older, uglier, dumber, more unpopular with his base, has no organizational or political skill, and the only people who like him are a few doughnuts on the bus buddies who think eh's still the same guy he was before Mephistopholes came calling long about 2002.
So come on, dontcha think that, just maybe, after pulling off the unthinkable and overcoming the Inevitable Hillary Clinton and her Perfect Campaign, that, at the very least, Obama and his team have earned a little bit of faith from us that he might actually know what the hell he's doing?
Yes?
Then could y'all please just cowboy up and ride? Because we do have a lot of work to do, and all the flapping and vaporing is not going to get the doggies down the trail, okay?
(I am, of course, excluding the Comrades from the Clintonite wing of the party from this exhortation. If a little dooming and glooming and the occaisional sneer is the cost of your support, y'all have earned it and its a small price to pay.)
July 29, 2008 10:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
This business about supporting the troops bothers me. Does the phrase really have any meaning? I certainly don't support what the troops are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan, and I suppose that many people who say they support the troops don't support what they are doing (or at least the policies they are enacting). So supporting the troops doesn't mean supporting the wars. I'm in favor of bringing them back to the U.S., where they would be much safer. Is this supporting the troops? I think so, but if this is what the phrase means, then McCain clearly doesn't support the troops. How about Obama? Does he support the troops? In which sense? If he wants to move troops out of Iraq into Afghanistan, that isn't supporting the troops by my standards. I'm not sure it that is supporting the troops by McCain's standards. After all, his policy statements shift too quickly to keep up.
July 29, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama needs to call McCain out more directly on his mis-statements and his fluid positions. If Obama's chief focus is "looking" or "acting" presidential so that the electorate will become more comfortable with him in the role he will lose. He will lose because he would not have made the case that not only is he the better option when compared to McCain but he is also the safer option.
For McCain to only be trailing by as few points as he is is symptomatic of the under performance of Barack when it comes to really fighting for the position. He needs to get a little dirt under his finger nails. In a close fight McCain probably has the edge in part because of the Bradley affect and right now it looks like a close fight.
What Barack needs to do is to make some honest hits on McCains record to date:
Taxes
Support of Bushes policies
Women right to choose
Healthcare
Vets affairs
the list goes on and on just pick a handful and his words and positions will speak for themselves without any editing.
The cautionary tail is 2004 when the reality was clear of what George W represented and still we had the headline in England ""HOW CAN 59,054,087 PEOPLE BE SO DUMB?" after Bush was elected. I suspect that people are no smarter now and if Barack wants to win it will be his job to educate them on the likely realities of what McCain represents
July 30, 2008 3:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
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