Obama decontents a dream
Obama is running against Obama, not McCain.
He is running against his own personality, his private ghosts and demons.
Of course if Obama loses, McCain will win. But it will be Obama that beats Obama, not McCain.
This is Obama's election to lose.
I think his changing positions in a way that appears at first pragmatic, is in fact a major mistake.
A mistake if for no other reason than that if focuses interest on Obama as a subject in action that does or doesn't do things instead of focusing on the idea of Obama or on Obama the "dream". Objectively Obama has little or no CV at all, many of his supporters consider that a prime virtue.
Barack Obama never has aroused any real interest in his supporters with his policy positions or his voting record.
Americans are in a panic and Obama is a Rorschach ink blot that people project their hopes and fears on. If he doesn't embody his story he literally ceases to exist. He mustn't lose sight of how and why he has been suddenly elevated.
Fortuitously he has tapped into some sort of vein of mass hysteria and craziness of the kind that periodically sweeps America throughout its history and it all began to get out of control. How many candidates in the history of the republic have ever elicited this sort of reaction?
How is a Hawaiian from the South Side of Chicago supposed to handle horse shit like that?
However moving away from it into some imagined center could be a fatal mistake. Barack Obama is his own space or no space at all
His secret has been the charm of his difference.
If he loses that special quality, and by now there is little left, it will be like Cinderella's Coach turning back into a pumpkin and all the pretty horses into scurrying, little mice.
I have to agree with Arianna Huffington
That is the question that Obama cannot afford to have people asking.
For Obama to be is to do and to do is to cease to be.
He is running against his own personality, his private ghosts and demons.
Of course if Obama loses, McCain will win. But it will be Obama that beats Obama, not McCain.
This is Obama's election to lose.
I think his changing positions in a way that appears at first pragmatic, is in fact a major mistake.
A mistake if for no other reason than that if focuses interest on Obama as a subject in action that does or doesn't do things instead of focusing on the idea of Obama or on Obama the "dream". Objectively Obama has little or no CV at all, many of his supporters consider that a prime virtue.
Barack Obama never has aroused any real interest in his supporters with his policy positions or his voting record.
Americans are in a panic and Obama is a Rorschach ink blot that people project their hopes and fears on. If he doesn't embody his story he literally ceases to exist. He mustn't lose sight of how and why he has been suddenly elevated.
Fortuitously he has tapped into some sort of vein of mass hysteria and craziness of the kind that periodically sweeps America throughout its history and it all began to get out of control. How many candidates in the history of the republic have ever elicited this sort of reaction?
"Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who has the ability to lead us not merely to new foreign policies or health care plans or whatnot, but who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet, of relating and connecting and engaging with this bizarre earthly experiment. These kinds of people actually help us evolve. They are philosophers and peacemakers of a very high order, and they speak not just to reason or emotion, but to the soul." Mark Morford, San Francisco ChronicleWhen I read Morford's piece I wondered whether it was possible to laugh and vomit at the same time without strangling. Certainly neither Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln nor FDR were ever talked about that way. The language is totally outside America's republican traditions and is reminiscent of the things that enthusiastic flunkies said and wrote about Franco, Mussolini and Hitler in the 1930s.
How is a Hawaiian from the South Side of Chicago supposed to handle horse shit like that?
However moving away from it into some imagined center could be a fatal mistake. Barack Obama is his own space or no space at all
His secret has been the charm of his difference.
If he loses that special quality, and by now there is little left, it will be like Cinderella's Coach turning back into a pumpkin and all the pretty horses into scurrying, little mice.
I have to agree with Arianna Huffington
Running to the middle in an attempt to attract undecided swing voters didn't work for Al Gore in 2000. It didn't work for John Kerry in 2004. And it didn't work when Mark Penn (obsessed with his "microtrends" and missing the megatrend) convinced Hillary Clinton to do it in 2008. Fixating on -- and pandering to -- this fickle crowd is all about messaging tailored to avoid offending rather than to inspire and galvanize. And isn't galvanizing the electorate to demand fundamental change the raison d'etre of the Obama campaign in the first place?As Buchanan Pat asks "The question of 2008 remains: When all is said and done, who is this guy?"
That is the question that Obama cannot afford to have people asking.
For Obama to be is to do and to do is to cease to be.
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Look, I know you are old and have a hard time taking in new information, but Jesus-fucking-Christ this is getting to be a full-time job correcting your Concern Troll posts.
Just because you choose not to read his books or his stated policy positions or his many interviews with the nation's editorial boards, doesn't mean your mistaken impression of his positions is true.
If anything he is doing right now seems a surprise to you, that is a failure on your part to comprehend the VAST amounts of material available on the man. It's not Barack's fault that you lack basic comprehension skills or are unable to perform objective analysis due to long-standing prejudices.
Let go of your hate, David. You live in Spain for fuck's sake. Go take a siesta or something.
July 9, 2008 7:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here is the New York Times, not the best of newspapers, perhaps, but considered America's best.
If you don't think that I am informed on Obama's positions, I imagine that you will grant that the NYT is:
July 9, 2008 8:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I think the corporate media is a bunch of uniformed idiots as well. They have zero objectivity and are certainly dancing to the Bottom-Line Tune coming out of the Fortune 500 Masters who own them.
Give me a break with this shit. Don't quote garbage as a source for more garbage. Just because it is in the New York Time, doesn't make it smart or credible.
July 9, 2008 8:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
In a general election the opinion of the NYT has a certain weight, and moving to the center is all about appealing to those you call, "a bunch of uniformed idiots".
July 9, 2008 8:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Raging Left are the uniformed idiots. The ones in the center already seem to know and like Obama. They aren't confused. That's why they voted for him in the primary and the only cries of anger you hear are on the left. I even heard that some of them read his book. Amazing.
July 9, 2008 8:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
This post has the virtue of being extremely clear about its premises.
Here's one premise:
I've heard this a lot in the Cafe lately. At first sight it looks like obvious nonsense. Of course, that's because it is nonsense.
But how could anyone believe something that sounds this absurd? The answer is that it's a completely accurate definition of the poster's own interest in Obama.
"For me, Obama is a Rorschach ink blot. I am only interested in him because he seemed to embody a story about the authenticity of a popular movement that would rise up and destroy politics as usual. If he stops representing this, I will lose all interest in him, and he will literally cease to exist. For me."
In that case, I have bad news. As soon as Obama is inaugurated, he's going to cease to exist. For you Because he will no longer be a Rorschach ink blot that represents "change." He will be the chief executive, and as he governs the country, his Rorschach openness will be defined and limited by a history of past choices and compromises. He will be the political establishment. Not because he has (or hasn't) sold out: he will be the establishment by definition.
If you care about giving the American people solutions for concrete problems -- health care, Iraq, climate change -- this is great news. If you care about Rorschach blots and blank slates . . . well, there's always 2012.
July 9, 2008 8:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
What we have is bait and switch.
Arianna Huffington sums up the dangers.
July 9, 2008 8:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently Huffington has a comprehension problem as well. Must be due to the fact the English is her second language. Maybe she has problems with all the big words Barack uses.
She used to be a neocon as well, so perhaps she was always an agent provocateur, though I prefer to be charitable and call her an uninformed moron who couldn't craft an intelligent opinion if her life depended on it.
Any more idiot testimony you care to provide?
July 9, 2008 8:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
First of all, the brand is perishable by definition, as I explained. When he wins, the brand is going to *have* to adapt, because he's not going to represent "change" forever.
In the meantime, though, I don't see that he's really damaging the brand by having a fight with the Left. On the contrary. When liberal bloggers get angry with Obama, it proves (to most people) that he's not "just following the party line." Which proves that he really is a new kind of politician -- one who cares about solutions rather than ideology.
I think there's actually some truth to that perception -- but whether there's any truth to the perception or not, it works just fine for Obama's brand strategy, which has always leaned heavily on the appeal of the so-called "radical center."
Your post, like many posts lately, is all about the enthusiasm and disappointment of the liberal blogosphere. I don't think it really grasps the broader political environment Obama is working in.
July 9, 2008 8:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Alex, I loved that whole comment. I'm still laughing.
July 9, 2008 9:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think Obama's running against McCain and a very McCain-friendly MSM. Everything he says will be twisted around and used against him.
Depending on the circumstance, the MSM will say he's either too black or not black enough, too Christian or possibly Muslim, progressive ultra-liberal or opportunistic centrist, too inexperienced or unbelievably slick. Whatever suits the moment.
Noise.
July 9, 2008 8:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Republicans are locking onto a productive and legitimate line of attack which paleoconservative Pat Buchanan spells out:
We are about to hand the atomic bomb, two wars in progress and a failing economy to someone who has never done anything and now, it seems, doesn't stand for anything either.
July 9, 2008 8:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good, you agree that he will win. Can we move on now?
July 9, 2008 8:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think "buyer's remorse" is already setting in.
July 9, 2008 8:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
followed by
July 9, 2008 9:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
damn you, forward slash!
July 9, 2008 9:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Read a frigging book or two and then come back to offer reasonable and rational comments. Hit Google for 45 minutes and you will know all about his varied background of accomplishment.
Anyone who doesn't know all the stuff Barack has done needs to correct their own ignorance, not fault Obama for not writing yet one more book or giving yet one more interview or making yet one more speech or authoring yet one more draft of his policy positions.
Seriously, do you even read this shit before you post it?
July 9, 2008 8:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, he's only been in the Senate a couple of years, he has never been the mayor of a city or the governor of a state. Exactly what are his qualifications?
July 9, 2008 9:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
History proves that there have been presidents with very little executive experience who have been successful, and those with stacked resumes who have been disastrous. This is about what they will do, not what they have done.
July 9, 2008 9:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly what will he do?
After the last couple of weeks this isn't very clear.
July 9, 2008 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
exactly what isn't clear? Please enumerate. I want specifics. Please refrain from the cop-out, what's his position on__________? and stick with verbs. What about what he will DO aren't you clear on?
July 9, 2008 9:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well Abraham Lincoln had little experience, but what brought him to the public eye were the Lincoln/Douglas debates which were of a level unimaginable today. In them Lincoln showed a profound grasp of the country's tragic moment and the great issues that faced it.
Nothing to compare to "we are the change we are waiting for".
July 9, 2008 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
no response to my previous question. And by the way, I would put Barack Obama's speech to the 2004 convention on the same level as any of the great speeches in this country's history.
July 9, 2008 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Twenty years of progressive experience at all levels of society and government - from the grassroots organizing to Harvard Law to the Illinois Statehouse to the US Senate.
Obama has done more in his twenty-year career than McCain has done in over forty years sucking at the government teat.
Again, give me a fucking break with this shit. Read a book. Do some research. Get a clue. Or shut the fuck up.
July 9, 2008 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ah...and there it is: "Shut the fuck up!"
Slpendid.
July 9, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did you spend you childhood locked in a dog cage with a muzzle or something? Stupid fucking people who keep trolling with stupid fucking opinions should back them up with facts or shut the hell up. Nothing sinister about that opinion and you are more than within your rights to listen to their crap, agree with it or shut the fuck up too.
July 9, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Barack Obama never has aroused any real interest in his supporters with his policy positions or his voting record."
One of your most absurd statements to date. It's all about his policy positions (vs. those of McCain).
Your contempt for the American voter (Democratic variety in particular) is glaringly obvious.
July 9, 2008 8:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
ps - The title of your post contains one of the most hideous bastardizations of the English language I have ever witnessed ("decontents").
July 9, 2008 8:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's a technical term from manufacturing, like when they substitute Nylon for steel in a car.
July 9, 2008 9:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
No his supporters don't really care what he says. As Virginia Postrel wrote in the Atlantic
July 9, 2008 9:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, for God's sake, bite me! You always fall back on cut/pasting pundit comments to back your arguments. News flash - pundits speak only for themselves and reflect their own personal biases - they are editorialists. I don't give a shit what fucking "Virginia Postrel wrote in The Atlantic"! I am an Obama supporter, and I base my support of him on his policy positions. So do the other Obama supporters I know. But no, I'm sure you will insist that I am mistaken, because SOME FUCKING PUNDIT SAYS SO. Your constant heaping of contempt upon the American electorate is sickening. You are the very picture of elitist, establishment conservatism.
July 9, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
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July 9, 2008 8:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Who are you exactly to declare an open thread on my post?
Go and open your own post.
July 9, 2008 9:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
If you stop posting this Concern Troll bullshit, we won't keep declaring your blogs open threads.
You are clearly not willing to conduct honest discussions about Obama, so this is our way of isolating your idiocy with various topics that have every bit as much legitimacy as anything you have posted so far.
Read his books, research his record of achievement, understand his platform and then come back to comment. Until then, I will be a thorn in your side. This is my country way more than it is yours. You abandoned these shores 40 years ago and now fire pot-shots from Spain that offend many of us here with their ignorance and hate.
So, fuck you very much and please forgive me if I don't let you get away with this shit without an appropriate response.
July 9, 2008 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Insolent young whippersnapper.
July 9, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Never cease to amaze, mate.
July 9, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
He doesn't live here. hasn't lived here since before I was born. Your stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
July 9, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mate? Are you an Australian now? Do you live in the US? If you aren't a US citizen living in the United States (and not one of our troops serving overseas) at least some of the time, you should most certainly shut the fuck up or at least be civil. The adults are trying to win an election and you're being a brat.
July 9, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
TG. Jason - I agree. What would you like to discuss?
July 9, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Lila catches us, we'll get a wuppin'!
July 9, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not if we discuss something pertinent - hmmm, let's think about it. I know, we concentrate on what Seaton's ulterior motives could be in continuing to post his blather and his ongoing negative diatribe against Obama. How about it?
July 9, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, I am quite convinced that one of the biggest problems we face as a society is the inability of police to enforce traffic laws. It's like every person in the city is walking around firing guns into the air with no response from authorities.
You can't cross the street at a crosswalk without getting run over or being threated to have your ass kicked for pointing at the stop sign the person apparently didn't notice.
The Broken Window Policing was put to great use by the New York City Transit Authority and led to massive declines in crime throughout the city. It started with the simple act of saying enough was enough to daily law breaking of so-called "small" crimes.
I submit that someone barreling through a residential neighborhood, even if in the middle of a city, at twenty or thirty over the posted speed limit is doing a lot more than simply speeding. That is reckless and has caused many deaths. I say these deaths are murder, because that person is willfully breaking a law put in place to protect us in our communities.
I am kicking around ideas of how we could fix the problem, but haven't come up with anything yet. I am thinking video documentation that can be used to back up "citizens complaints" to have these people fined. I'll go out my video camera and get everything they need.
Not sure if there is a statute for such a thing, but there should be.
I had another idea and it actually overcame my objections to wide-spread monitoring of city streets. Imagine a Corner Cam at every single corner in the city. A web cam if you will. Since cops can't be everywhere, I can jot down the details of any encounter involving moving violations that are life-threatening.
When I get home, I can go to AssholeDrivers.gov and type int he details. The camera for the corner and at the proper time would allow me to file a direct complaint along with evidence to the authorities.
I would actually be OK with ubiquitous monitoring for a while if it allowed us to better enforce our laws since the cops apparently have no interest in doing so, at least here in DC.
July 9, 2008 9:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
David - You might find this of interest....or not.
from FiveThirtyEight.com
July 9, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nice try, but I doubt he'll find anything contrary to his original premise of any interest whatsoever. I, on the other hand, found it as further confirmation that the guy knows what he's doing or we would be cheering for Billary right now, at least those of us with half a brain would be, no matter what our primary-election opinions of her were.
July 9, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
There was a man from far away
Who had nothing good to say
About the man who's here to stay
As opposed to the man who's far away
July 9, 2008 11:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
As far as I can see, (Realclearpolitics average) McCain and Obama are still tied statistically. With Bush where he is in the polls Obama should be ahead by 20% or more.
July 9, 2008 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ever heard of the Electoral College? Check it out. I hear it counts for something...
July 9, 2008 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
David looking a national averages is a poor indicator. Since these averages take in account states Obama has a very slim chance of winning. Right now the EV average is Obama 304 to McCains 234 with no toss-up states. Even with toss ups Obama is way ahead in EVs.
July 9, 2008 12:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seaton revealed in an earlier blog that he is voting for John McCain. Of course he also revealed in some of his earlier blogs that Senator Obama's race is something that Seaton is very bothered by. It is all in his earlier blogs, when Seaton muses about the Africans that he has observed, and in his blogs where he is drooling over the prospect of the "Michelle Whitey Video" destroying the Obama bid.
Seaton wets his Depends at the thought of having a Black President. All of his ravings are fueled out of his racial hatred and fear. Look at his blog prior to this one. It is the very same stream of bullshit trying to make Obama run against Obama, and of course David, KKK, Seaton has appointed himself the referee who sets the rules and decides the results.
Seaton's rules: Heads Obama loses, Tails Obama loses, and Seaton gets to feel great about how he time traveled to shag his own mother, in order to make sure that he was born with the right, white, skin color.
July 9, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
July 9, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
A good negro, right? Racial purity is so important these days, don't you think?
http://www.familytreedna.com/afrogene.html
Give it a shot, White Man. Perhaps you'll discover that there's a little chameleon in you as well.
July 9, 2008 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, that may be the single most offensive thing I've ever read on this site. Who do you think you are? You question his authenticity as an African American? You have issues that need to be dealt with professionally. I think I may actually pity you.
July 9, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
just to be clear, I am repulsed by Seaton, not KittyBunny.
July 9, 2008 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Too late. I'll never forgive you. Tigers and kitties are supposed to stick together, you elitist prick. You're not a pure feline, are you? I suspect yo great-grandmama may have done a hyena or two. Chameleon.
July 9, 2008 11:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
*:o)
July 9, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
The damage is done KittyBunny - if you are a real KittyBunny.
July 9, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seaton . Who do you think you are trying to fool with that old tired racist trick.
Of course you would vote for someone that you will never have to vote for. If Powell were the candidate; then of course you would pick some other token non candidate to claim that is who you would vote for. Get lost you Racist Sewer Rat.
July 9, 2008 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dee-uh... Dat sounds lojikul!
July 9, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
What I wish to say is that this election is the Democrat's to lose and they, in their wisdom, have chosen the only Democrat that could possibly lose.
So, in my humble opinion, Obama is running against himself.
July 9, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Whatever. Just keep ignoring reality. Maybe it will go away.
July 9, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
There is a dolt
Who likes to emote
He thinks he is so very smart
And yet, we know he's just a rancid ol' fart
His words are lame
So glad he is far away in Spain
Seldom does he post any wise fare
His messages only denote his own rancid air
July 9, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Arianna Huffington should really, really, shut up. Gore didn't move to the center, in fact, it was just the opposite - he moved to the left and when he did so he surged in popularity. Let's not forget that Gore won that election.
July 9, 2008 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Either that, or declare her candidacy. Then she could prove her superior skills as a strategist and campaigner, win the election, and become the First Woman President of the United States of America!
Everybody's an expert. Obama's so lucky to have so many experts giving him so much great, free advice.
July 9, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
just cuz I don't want seaton to be able to correct you on anything, I'll say it: She was born in Greece, so she can't run for president.
July 9, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interestingly, every four years since 1948, we've handed the presidency and nuclear weapons to someone we don't know. In the last two elections we handed it to someone who can't even pronounce the word "nuclear".
We simply have no sure way of knowing the person who is in that office - we have to depend on the process as it is and it is a vacuous process at its best and a virulent process at its worst. What amazes me isn't that we've gotten it wrong so much of the time, it's that we've gotten it right a few times and those few times were when we needed the right person at the right time.
The problem though, is that we can't know with any certainty who will be the right person at the right time, there are just too many factors and variables to vote with any level of comfort in our choice. There's no test we can administer, no experience we can judge future performance on, no campaign promises or positions - there is nothing. I don't even think "character" is a real judge of who is right for the office because circumstance can change or alter character for good or ill.
David states that Obama is a "Rorschach test upon which Obama supporters are projecting their hopes and dreams" [paraphrased, of course' but all leaders are going to project to their followers a mirror of themselves - that's not the leader's fault, that's the assumption made by the follower - the leader is like them, only better somehow, a somehow that can't be articulated.
Then there are all sorts of leadership styles and what kind of style is most suited to the circumstance and situation and of course, we won't know that until the situation arises that we can see that most clearly and that is apparent usually when a great crisis occurs that brings that skill to the forefront.
So how do we make that decision? We have to guess who we think will best be able to think through any decision, be flexible enough to change his thinking if need be and has the intelligence to do all these things while balancing the rights of the people with the responsibilities he has as the chief officer of the nation - and he has to really, really want the job and do the heavy work involved in the job.
In my opinion, the person best suited for the office, with these conditions in mind, is Obama. He not only wants the job, he has the ability to think and act reflexively and the intelligence to know when to exercise these skills. McCain would like to have the job, but he doesn't seem to have the energy or will to do the heavy intellectual lifting involved in the office. He doesn't do the work now - he readily admits he knows nothing about economics, he knows nothing about diplomacy and what is worse, he seems to take some perverse pride in his ignorance - he certainly doesn't think it is important, because while he readily admits to his ignorance, he never says he's going to do anything about it and that I find to be frightening.
Seaton thinks that Obama is a projection of his followers hopes and dreams and while he thinks that is bad, I happen to think that's good. I want someone if that office that actively seeks to reflect his followers wishes and hopes and think it's a damned sight better than electing someone who doesn't reflect those hopes and dreams, someone who doesn't give a damn about what his followers think or want.
July 9, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for a sensible and well written response to an antagonistic blockhead. I hope some of it penetrates his wall of self-satisfied condescension.
July 9, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great comment. You need to blog more often. Any issues near and dear for an Obama Administration to tackle should we elect him? I'd love to read your thoughts.
July 9, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well; so what if President Obama turns out to be merely adequate. The vast majority of all those white men that have been elected to the presidency have not turned out to be great leaders, and a lot of them have turned out to be complete incompetent mopes, like the current Moron In Chief.
Suddenly, just because of the color of his skin, the first African American President must walk on water, or the nation is doomed. What a crock of bullshit being spread by Aryan Nation Arse Trolls. A nation that survived been lead by dozens of white fools, will do fine under President Obama, even if he can not walk on water.
July 9, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink