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New Yorker banned from Obama press plane??? Huffpost gets it wrong.
This is sensationalism at its worst. The truth is that there are only a limited number of seats on Obama's press plane and the New Yorker was only one, among many media organizations, that had to sit this one out. But Rachel Sklar turned it into a "retribution" piece.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/21/obamas-revenge-emnew-york_n_113969.html
IMHO, this is the kind of reporting that isn't journalism. You can arrive at your own conclusion and let her know, as I did.
[ed.note: The original version of this post contained Ms. Sklar's personal email address. It was edited out of the post because posting people's personal email addresses without their permission violates site rules -- the editors.]












Comments (37)
Well done, Gary. Accurate reporting AND the dismissal of Rachel Sklar as a hack. Rec'd.
July 21, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not my intention to call any writer a hack. It was the assertion Rachel made in this piece that was entirely unwarranted.
July 21, 2008 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Forgive me if I implied that was your intention. It certainly was mine, however. :-)
July 21, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
EVERYONE:
Scroll down to read the hilarious correspondence between Ripper McCord and Rachel Sklar.
RIPPER:
You need to circulate that to every media org and blogger you can. Pew, Poynter, etc.
July 21, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
The comments on that article are just insane! The writer states that there were more than 200 requests and only 40 seats but she did such a good job of jumping to the conclusion that is must be payback that nobody on the thread even questions whether this was payback or not.
Unbelievably terrible "reporting"!
July 21, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
The latest commenters at HuffPo have caught on to Sklar's math problem, and are virtually unanimous in calling the piece what it is -- specious.
July 21, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
The absence of bears around here is proof positive that my Bear Patrol is working!
July 21, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe I posted there (unless it was rejected) that the odds were 4:1 AGAINST any particular news outlet receiving a space on the plane.
And I also called out HuffingtonPost for its continued slide into tabloid/sensational journalism that bears absolutely no relationship to professional news reporting or political analysis.
July 21, 2008 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Infelicitous reporting is one thing, but I hear her chocolate chip cookies can't be questioned.
July 21, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any idea what the hell is going on at HuffPo recently? Between reporting like this and their penchant for over-sensationalized headlines, it's slowly turning rancid over there...
July 21, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't read Huffpo enough to recognize a pattern of sensationalism. But as someone mentioned in another post, this piece is something Jon Stewart could have a field day with.
Seriously, only 40 seats on the plane, 200 requests from journalists.
The New Yorker reporter was one of 160 reporters that had to sit this one out.
How does that turn into:
"New Yorker BANNED from Obama plane"
July 21, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not pretty.
July 21, 2008 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
With apologies to the late President Ford:
"Obama to New Yorker: Drop Dead".
July 21, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just emailed this to Rachel Sklar under the subject line "Are you nuts, Rachel?"
I got this reply:
to which I replied:
P.S. Rachel's reply came with a line at the end that says: "This email is off the record unless otherwise indicated."
Sorry, Rachel, you replied before I agreed to the ground rules. It's ON the record. I guess that's another one your professors overlooked.
July 21, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rachel replied to my reply:
and I replied:
July 21, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the payoff, wherein Rachel admits she has no facts to support her conclusion. Just got this from Rachel:
July 21, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, she's on the record as being a PUNDIT, and not a journalist.
At least we got that cleared up.
July 21, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Her blog post would have been a lot stronger if she had given this context from her email:
"These decisions are entirely discretionary. We both know that. We also both know (I am assuming) that Lizza has been writing on Obama for ages, for TNR and GQ and the Atlantic too. He is an ace reporter and has been doing some work of real substance on this campaign, has been out on the trail with a vengeance, and is well-known to Team Obama (and probably well-loved, considering some of his previous material). This isn't a case of suddenly the New Yorker is small potatoes. And it's not like drawing straws. This also seems consistent with certain other reactions of the Obama campaign. I stand by my analysis, and the concerns it raises."
That said, I stand by the Obama campaign if it did kick Lizza off the plane as retribution for the New Yorker's tasteless cover, which is already being recirculated as a smear email.
It's about time Democrats learn that the media is not friendly and play hardball. Sklar herself has done as much as anyone to make that point abundantly clear. Maybe it will toughen the media up a little bit, since the bad treatment of the media by the Bush/Cheney Administration doesn't seem to have taught the media anything.
July 21, 2008 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Journalists" (if there still are any real ones) have been whipped like dogs by the conservatives for so long that they cringe like whipped curs when a conservative says anything at all now. "Journalistic" careers in Washington have been based on stenography of Republican PR reports and bad-mouthing Democrats for over a generation now. But they aren't used to that kind of treatment from the Democrats. They expect the Democrats to take being kicked and then come back begging for more.
Any hint that this state of affairs is changing freaks them out. Can't say I blame the "journalists." From being secondary in status only to conservatives but being courted by Democrats, if the Democrats start getting nasty about it suddenly the "journalists" will find themselves as low dog in the game and being held responsible for what they publish.
They are going to really whine about being pushed to an even lower status than they are used to. They might even decide that they have to do real reporting to get any respect. I don't expect very many of the "journalists" in the current generation are even capable of learning how to report.
The New Yorker is irrelevant anyway. The Obama cover was an effort to shock the audiences and get attention, much like a newspaper that is losing circulation switches to tabloid format, prints headlines in super large font colored red and uses the word SEX all over the paper above the fold. Who cares if another irrelevant journal finds itself losing out to better rags.
Expect a whole lot more whining from that crew and others like them as they get what they deserve.
July 22, 2008 8:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
It would be curious to see the list of 200 - which publications and broadcasters they represent. The New Yorker isn't even primarily in the news business; it's a sideline to their cultural content (and cartoons). It's kind of the Entertainment Tonight of magazines - comparable perhaps with Rolling Stone in its occasional political moonlighting. So are there folks in the seated 40 representing even more peripheral ventures (from the news perspective) than the New Yorker?
July 21, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Either you don't watch "Entertainment Tonight" or you don't read The New Yorker. Perhaps you have it confused with New York Magazine or Vanity Fair?
The New Yorker may put more emphasis on the cultural (and I mean cultural, not the celebrity gossip or PR plumping common with ET) than on the political, but the political coverage it does include is second to none.
July 21, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
So the New Yorker is the best place for cultural AND political reporting???
I think you are being far too kind, sir.
July 21, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is status quo for huffpo.
July 21, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Obama's Revenge: New Yorker Reporter Banned From Press Plane For Overseas Trip"
This headline is a lie. It's not even stretching truth. It's plain false.
Rachel is a senior contributing editor to the Huffpost. If she doesn't see that it's false then that's indicative of a very serious problem not only for her, but for that site.
Must have a retraction.
July 21, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice work. Huffpo needs to get back on its medications.
July 21, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Someone out there asked if Huffpo is turning into the Enquirer? I'm guessing it was a rhetorical question.
July 21, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Since the Inquirer lost a lawsuit to Carol Burnett about three decades ago because they made stuff up and published it, they have had a strong legal team the reviewed every story for carefully proven facts. The Inquirer has not been successfully sued since.
This story by Huffpost does not come even close to meeting the very high standards for truth that the Inquirer uses today.
July 22, 2008 9:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
David Shuster on MSMNC just did a bit on the press complaining about their still cramped quarters on the Obama's repainted press plane and added a bit about poor Ryan Lizza's "banning". (Who has yet to comment on this fauxtrage & mewling on his behalf.)
Rachel Sklar's jihadette is even getting press in The Gaurdian and guess who else agrees with her that this is "retribution"?
Larry Johnson.
MediabistroLA takes it to Miss Rachel asking if she's the new Geraldo:
"Rachel Sklar is Sensational...istic
We were trolling Huffpo and came across Rachel Sklar's latest:
'Obama's Revenge: New Yorker Reporter Banned From Press Plane For Overseas Trip'
So Ryan Lizza who wrote (no drawing) a 15,000 word flattering piece on Barack Obama is now banned? Really? Is that how it works?
Sklar takes it up a notch:
'Or maybe, like Ari Fleischer once warned, they would just like people to watch what they say.'
Yeah, we're sure it's just like that. It's just like being in shock, two weeks after 9/11 and the White House Press Secretary says something creepy to Bill Maher for saying something flippant. Same exact deal. The simile couldn't be more similar.
Is Rachel Sklar the new Geraldo Rivera?"
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlLA/tangled_web/rachel_sklar_is_sensationalistic_89767.asp
July 21, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
That there were 200 applicants for the seats on the plane does not mean there were 200 top tier applicants. Who were they? That matters. If he was kicked off to allow a reporter from the Bend Bulletin on the plane - that's retribution.
With only 40 seats, they can claim crowding, but there are some media publications whose position has been tradition, whose importance and reach is enough to guarantee them a seat. I think the New Yorker probably falls within the major media/ important grouping.
Still with monthly rather than daily deadlines - they can get along without access beter than most. To be honest, I think Sklar's headline went farther than is provable - and your headline completely missed the mark.
July 21, 2008 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe you can educate me a little on this.
Would the NYT ever publish "New Yorker Banned from Obama press plane"?
Are there different standards of credibility for online news sources?
July 21, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Am I the only one who thinks that the approach towards a basically OK pundit like Sklar should be a bit less flamethrowing? Just saying. She mostly is with the good guys.
July 21, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
So there is something wrong with treating a reporter from some publication in a manner the editors of that publication deserve?
No one knows if that is what happened, of course, but if it did - so what?
The editors act for the publication. So do the reporters. The reporters deserve to be treated in the way the publication earns. If the reporters don't like it they can quit and get honest work somewhere.
Personally I think the Obama cover published by the New Yorker was incompetent. That editorial incompetence does and should reflect on the reporters they send out.
July 22, 2008 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
However much you might personally like the New Yorker's political coverage, it's a sideline for them. Yes, we have a subscription; also to New York. I'd rank the quality of the political journalism in both about equal; both feature an affectation by their writers of a phony elite perspective under which all politicians except perhaps Hillary are stupid trash. Seymour Hersch in the New Yorker is the exception that proves the rule.
I've nothing against elite perspectives. The New Yorker just mostly fails to attain one, decades of pretense to the contrary. The recent cover proves that. What if they had run a cover "satirizing" the Nazi view of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? There'd be no mistaking a depiction of the blood libel for humor to good effect; and the capability of some to mistake the Obamas cover for such only shows how racism is still institutionalized among the New Yorker's editors.
By contrast, that Danish newspaper's Muslim cartoons where mostly wonderful - because they were sending up real flaws of some Muslims. I love good satirical cartoons. Some years back, the New Yorker ran some great ones. But they've lost the art.
July 21, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. Cohen,
Care to comment on recent events?
July 22, 2008 12:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hate to say it, but HuffPo has been yellow journalism since its founding. There may be some difficulty recognizing it here because, well, Obama's ox was not getting gored. I think the clue is, look down the right side of their page. Remember back to the dreadful, spread-wing VTech killer photo on their front page. And, in some future time when we can be objective, look at every single picture of Hillary over the primary campaign, and reflect that she's not really that unattractive, but the HuffPo found every possible unflattering shot, tight angle, close-up on wrinkles and prominent teeth to illustrate the fact that they didn't like Hillary. Sure, there's lots to criticize it, but the photo editors and the headline writers, and quite a few of the political writers, are attack dogs pure and simple. It really is a British tabloid with, because of the female editor-in-chief, no page three girl.
July 22, 2008 6:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
What I don't get is why TPM removed her email address from your post. Of COURSE she gave her permission to publish it. It's publicly available to anyone who visits HuffPost.
Personally, I agree with Sklar that the New Yorker was being spanked by the Obama campaign. But so what? They deserved it. They'll be back on the plane soon enough. Just not this trip.
July 22, 2008 7:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
But they really wanted to see Amman, Jordan. I hear it is lovely this time of year.
July 22, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
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