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New Yorker banned from Obama press plane??? Huffpost gets it wrong.

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This is sensationalism at its worst. The truth is that there are only a limited number of seats on Obama's press plane and the New Yorker was only one, among many media organizations, that had to sit this one out. But Rachel Sklar turned it into a "retribution" piece.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/21/obamas-revenge-emnew-york_n_113969.html

IMHO, this is the kind of reporting that isn't journalism. You can arrive at your own conclusion and let her know, as I did.

[ed.note: The original version of this post contained Ms. Sklar's personal email address. It was edited out of the post because posting people's personal email addresses without their permission violates site rules -- the editors.]


Comments (37)

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Well done, Gary. Accurate reporting AND the dismissal of Rachel Sklar as a hack. Rec'd.

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It's not my intention to call any writer a hack. It was the assertion Rachel made in this piece that was entirely unwarranted.

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Forgive me if I implied that was your intention. It certainly was mine, however. :-)

EVERYONE:

Scroll down to read the hilarious correspondence between Ripper McCord and Rachel Sklar.

RIPPER:

You need to circulate that to every media org and blogger you can. Pew, Poynter, etc.

The comments on that article are just insane! The writer states that there were more than 200 requests and only 40 seats but she did such a good job of jumping to the conclusion that is must be payback that nobody on the thread even questions whether this was payback or not.

Unbelievably terrible "reporting"!

The latest commenters at HuffPo have caught on to Sklar's math problem, and are virtually unanimous in calling the piece what it is -- specious.

The absence of bears around here is proof positive that my Bear Patrol is working!

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I believe I posted there (unless it was rejected) that the odds were 4:1 AGAINST any particular news outlet receiving a space on the plane.

And I also called out HuffingtonPost for its continued slide into tabloid/sensational journalism that bears absolutely no relationship to professional news reporting or political analysis.

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Infelicitous reporting is one thing, but I hear her chocolate chip cookies can't be questioned.

Any idea what the hell is going on at HuffPo recently? Between reporting like this and their penchant for over-sensationalized headlines, it's slowly turning rancid over there...

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I don't read Huffpo enough to recognize a pattern of sensationalism. But as someone mentioned in another post, this piece is something Jon Stewart could have a field day with.

Seriously, only 40 seats on the plane, 200 requests from journalists.

The New Yorker reporter was one of 160 reporters that had to sit this one out.

How does that turn into:

"New Yorker BANNED from Obama plane"

It's not pretty.

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With apologies to the late President Ford:

"Obama to New Yorker: Drop Dead".

I just emailed this to Rachel Sklar under the subject line "Are you nuts, Rachel?"

Having been a journalist most of my life, I understand the meaning of limited space. Sometimes there are enough seats on a plane. In the case of your assertion that Obama snubbed the New Yorker, there aren't enough seats on five planes to accommodate all the press that wanted to tag along. You're giving new meaning to "unfounded rumor."

I got this reply:

If you've been a journalist all your life, then I would love to know how much success you've had cold-emailing strangers leading with flat-out insults.

First of all, the information was reported by Mike Allen of Politico. Was his note that the Obama campaign was "furious" at the NYer just fun color? Come on.

Second of all, yes there were limited seats for lots of requests. But there are norms that are established, regulars that included for a variety of reasons. Carrie Budoff-Brown from Politico is on the plane - so is Karen Tumulty from Time - so is Lynn Sweet from the Chicago Sun-Times - but it looks like there's someone from the Tribune, too. Why two papers from the same city? Because it's Chicago? Can't Ben Smith pick someone else's reports? These decisions are entirely discretionary. We both know that. We also both know (I am assuming) that Lizza has been writing on Obama for ages, for TNR and GQ and the Atlantic too. He is an ace reporter and has been doing some work of real substance on this campaign, has been out on the trail with a vengeance, and is well-known to Team Obama (and probably well-loved, considering some of his previous material). This isn't a case of suddenly the New Yorker is small potatoes. And it's not like drawing straws. This also seems consistent with certain other reactions of the Obama campaign. I stand by my analysis, and the concerns it raises.

But seriously, dude, you might want to rethink the subject line. There's no need to be rude. I might get offended and then deny you access - I hear that's done.

RS

to which I replied:

So, you didn't like the opener? There's as much truth in my subject line as there was in your headline. And also less of that "facts not in evidence" thing your post displays. See, it's a long way from saying that Obama's campaign is "furious" to concluding without a scrap of evidence that the New Yorker was "BANNED." Or didn't you learn that in journalism school?

P.S. Rachel's reply came with a line at the end that says: "This email is off the record unless otherwise indicated."

Sorry, Rachel, you replied before I agreed to the ground rules. It's ON the record. I guess that's another one your professors overlooked.

Rachel replied to my reply:

I didn't go to journalism school; you clearly didn't go to charm school.

Sorry, but I just don't understand why I should correspond with you. You're rude. If you weren't rude, I'd be more inclined.

I think Gawker sets it out better than I did, actually: http://gawker.com/5027132/obamas-cartoon-retribution

This is politics. Everyone knows what they are doing and what signals they are sending.

and I replied:

And EVERYONE knows that competition for those 40 seats was more intense than it has been for any other Obama flight, with more major media requesting seats. Maybe the Obama campaign just decided to give a few seats to other media that haven't always been as lucky as the New Yorker.

Here's the payoff, wherein Rachel admits she has no facts to support her conclusion. Just got this from Rachel:

Interesting timing for such magnanimity, no?

And yes, of course, all of that is true. Plausible deniability. I looked at all the factors, and drew a conclusion. I truly do not think I am wrong. But definitely concede that I haven't proved it. Don't believe I said I had - just presented the ev, and my conclusion.

Well, she's on the record as being a PUNDIT, and not a journalist.

At least we got that cleared up.

Her blog post would have been a lot stronger if she had given this context from her email:

"These decisions are entirely discretionary. We both know that. We also both know (I am assuming) that Lizza has been writing on Obama for ages, for TNR and GQ and the Atlantic too. He is an ace reporter and has been doing some work of real substance on this campaign, has been out on the trail with a vengeance, and is well-known to Team Obama (and probably well-loved, considering some of his previous material). This isn't a case of suddenly the New Yorker is small potatoes. And it's not like drawing straws. This also seems consistent with certain other reactions of the Obama campaign. I stand by my analysis, and the concerns it raises."

That said, I stand by the Obama campaign if it did kick Lizza off the plane as retribution for the New Yorker's tasteless cover, which is already being recirculated as a smear email.

It's about time Democrats learn that the media is not friendly and play hardball. Sklar herself has done as much as anyone to make that point abundantly clear. Maybe it will toughen the media up a little bit, since the bad treatment of the media by the Bush/Cheney Administration doesn't seem to have taught the media anything.

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"Journalists" (if there still are any real ones) have been whipped like dogs by the conservatives for so long that they cringe like whipped curs when a conservative says anything at all now. "Journalistic" careers in Washington have been based on stenography of Republican PR reports and bad-mouthing Democrats for over a generation now. But they aren't used to that kind of treatment from the Democrats. They expect the Democrats to take being kicked and then come back begging for more.

Any hint that this state of affairs is changing freaks them out. Can't say I blame the "journalists." From being secondary in status only to conservatives but being courted by Democrats, if the Democrats start getting nasty about it suddenly the "journalists" will find themselves as low dog in the game and being held responsible for what they publish.

They are going to really whine about being pushed to an even lower status than they are used to. They might even decide that they have to do real reporting to get any respect. I don't expect very many of the "journalists" in the current generation are even capable of learning how to report.

The New Yorker is irrelevant anyway. The Obama cover was an effort to shock the audiences and get attention, much like a newspaper that is losing circulation switches to tabloid format, prints headlines in super large font colored red and uses the word SEX all over the paper above the fold. Who cares if another irrelevant journal finds itself losing out to better rags.

Expect a whole lot more whining from that crew and others like them as they get what they deserve.

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It would be curious to see the list of 200 - which publications and broadcasters they represent. The New Yorker isn't even primarily in the news business; it's a sideline to their cultural content (and cartoons). It's kind of the Entertainment Tonight of magazines - comparable perhaps with Rolling Stone in its occasional political moonlighting. So are there folks in the seated 40 representing even more peripheral ventures (from the news perspective) than the New Yorker?

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It's kind of the Entertainment Tonight of magazines

Either you don't watch "Entertainment Tonight" or you don't read The New Yorker. Perhaps you have it confused with New York Magazine or Vanity Fair?

The New Yorker may put more emphasis on the cultural (and I mean cultural, not the celebrity gossip or PR plumping common with ET) than on the political, but the political coverage it does include is second to none.

So the New Yorker is the best place for cultural AND political reporting???

I think you are being far too kind, sir.

This is status quo for huffpo.

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"Obama's Revenge: New Yorker Reporter Banned From Press Plane For Overseas Trip"

This headline is a lie. It's not even stretching truth. It's plain false.

Rachel is a senior contributing editor to the Huffpost. If she doesn't see that it's false then that's indicative of a very serious problem not only for her, but for that site.

Must have a retraction.

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Nice work. Huffpo needs to get back on its medications.

Someone out there asked if Huffpo is turning into the Enquirer? I'm guessing it was a rhetorical question.

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Since the Inquirer lost a lawsuit to Carol Burnett about three decades ago because they made stuff up and published it, they have had a strong legal team the reviewed every story for carefully proven facts. The Inquirer has not been successfully sued since.

This story by Huffpost does not come even close to meeting the very high standards for truth that the Inquirer uses today.

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David Shuster on MSMNC just did a bit on the press complaining about their still cramped quarters on the Obama's repainted press plane and added a bit about poor Ryan Lizza's "banning". (Who has yet to comment on this fauxtrage & mewling on his behalf.)

Rachel Sklar's jihadette is even getting press in The Gaurdian and guess who else agrees with her that this is "retribution"?

Larry Johnson.


MediabistroLA takes it to Miss Rachel asking if she's the new Geraldo:

"Rachel Sklar is Sensational...istic
We were trolling Huffpo and came across Rachel Sklar's latest:

'Obama's Revenge: New Yorker Reporter Banned From Press Plane For Overseas Trip'

So Ryan Lizza who wrote (no drawing) a 15,000 word flattering piece on Barack Obama is now banned? Really? Is that how it works?

Sklar takes it up a notch:

'Or maybe, like Ari Fleischer once warned, they would just like people to watch what they say.'

Yeah, we're sure it's just like that. It's just like being in shock, two weeks after 9/11 and the White House Press Secretary says something creepy to Bill Maher for saying something flippant. Same exact deal. The simile couldn't be more similar.

Is Rachel Sklar the new Geraldo Rivera?"

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlLA/tangled_web/rachel_sklar_is_sensationalistic_89767.asp

That there were 200 applicants for the seats on the plane does not mean there were 200 top tier applicants. Who were they? That matters. If he was kicked off to allow a reporter from the Bend Bulletin on the plane - that's retribution.

With only 40 seats, they can claim crowding, but there are some media publications whose position has been tradition, whose importance and reach is enough to guarantee them a seat. I think the New Yorker probably falls within the major media/ important grouping.

Still with monthly rather than daily deadlines - they can get along without access beter than most. To be honest, I think Sklar's headline went farther than is provable - and your headline completely missed the mark.

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Maybe you can educate me a little on this.

Would the NYT ever publish "New Yorker Banned from Obama press plane"?

Are there different standards of credibility for online news sources?

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Am I the only one who thinks that the approach towards a basically OK pundit like Sklar should be a bit less flamethrowing? Just saying. She mostly is with the good guys.

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So there is something wrong with treating a reporter from some publication in a manner the editors of that publication deserve?

No one knows if that is what happened, of course, but if it did - so what?

The editors act for the publication. So do the reporters. The reporters deserve to be treated in the way the publication earns. If the reporters don't like it they can quit and get honest work somewhere.

Personally I think the Obama cover published by the New Yorker was incompetent. That editorial incompetence does and should reflect on the reporters they send out.

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However much you might personally like the New Yorker's political coverage, it's a sideline for them. Yes, we have a subscription; also to New York. I'd rank the quality of the political journalism in both about equal; both feature an affectation by their writers of a phony elite perspective under which all politicians except perhaps Hillary are stupid trash. Seymour Hersch in the New Yorker is the exception that proves the rule.

I've nothing against elite perspectives. The New Yorker just mostly fails to attain one, decades of pretense to the contrary. The recent cover proves that. What if they had run a cover "satirizing" the Nazi view of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? There'd be no mistaking a depiction of the blood libel for humor to good effect; and the capability of some to mistake the Obamas cover for such only shows how racism is still institutionalized among the New Yorker's editors.

By contrast, that Danish newspaper's Muslim cartoons where mostly wonderful - because they were sending up real flaws of some Muslims. I love good satirical cartoons. Some years back, the New Yorker ran some great ones. But they've lost the art.

Mr. Cohen,

Care to comment on recent events?

I hate to say it, but HuffPo has been yellow journalism since its founding. There may be some difficulty recognizing it here because, well, Obama's ox was not getting gored. I think the clue is, look down the right side of their page. Remember back to the dreadful, spread-wing VTech killer photo on their front page. And, in some future time when we can be objective, look at every single picture of Hillary over the primary campaign, and reflect that she's not really that unattractive, but the HuffPo found every possible unflattering shot, tight angle, close-up on wrinkles and prominent teeth to illustrate the fact that they didn't like Hillary. Sure, there's lots to criticize it, but the photo editors and the headline writers, and quite a few of the political writers, are attack dogs pure and simple. It really is a British tabloid with, because of the female editor-in-chief, no page three girl.

What I don't get is why TPM removed her email address from your post. Of COURSE she gave her permission to publish it. It's publicly available to anyone who visits HuffPost.

Personally, I agree with Sklar that the New Yorker was being spanked by the Obama campaign. But so what? They deserved it. They'll be back on the plane soon enough. Just not this trip.

But they really wanted to see Amman, Jordan. I hear it is lovely this time of year.

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