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MSM-Watch: Weekend Edition

Just to take the pressure off Ripper & Raider, who seem to have been pulling a lot of the weight recently, let me hereby volunteer to re-post a lot of what has been discussed lately, with a view to keeping the discussion going over the next few days. 


For those out of the loop, what has been proposed is the formation of a new grassroots action center, with a view to trying to fight back against MSM bias and misinformation. As I see it, this would be broken down into two parts - a 'campaign' in the traditional media sense, and grassroots action. The 'campaign' would consist of getting a brand (distinct from, but with the help of a lot of the media watchdog groups already out there), communicating with local campaigns, local media, pushing our message through viral emails, youtube, class action lawsuits (?).... the list goes on. As for the grassroots action, based on the reports of Ripper McCord, it seems that the insistence of individual citizens (rather than a single, centralized group) on making complaints in response to every single piece of distortion by the media could make a big difference. A 'clearing-house' website has been proposed, essentially a list of MSM inaccuracies from the previous 24 - 48 hours, and a list of telephone numbers and email-addresses for volunteers to contact and complain. It has also been proposed that some sort of rota were worked out to ensure that at least a central team of dedicated people were making sure they made the calls at any one time, so as to keep the pressure up. 


During the course of the previous thread, the focus seemed to be on getting people on the 'next level' to get behind this project. So far, there's been no word from Josh Marshall. We seem to have had some productive discussions with Media Matters on providing support of some form, and others have mentioned ProPublica, Crooks & Liars, FactCheck.org, fair.org and so on. We've also had mention of a host of higher-profile bloggers and journalists interested in MSM accountability and journalistic integrity - from Dan Rather to Greg Mitchell, Al Giordano, Jed, and so on. 


The current micro-project is to create a spreadsheet of all the existing websites and organizations that offer similar critique of the MSM, and to detail how/if each of them encourage or allow for grassroots or netroots action. This is an ongoing project on Google Docs. More information for getting involved is available from CarolBG, who is doing the spreadsheet, or Ripper, who has set up a temporary email address. Send your name, alias and email to eddiestinkypants@att.net to get in the loop. 

As ever, please rec so we can keep the discussion going.  And as ever, please keep suggestions and support coming. We're looking for names of people or websites that might be relevant, or just for campaign ideas. 


Disclaimer: this isn't *my* project, nor is it uniquely raider's or ripper's.... it seems to be something that has grown organically over the last week or so. A testament to the organizing power of the blogosphere!

Links to all previous discussions are below, but I'm fairly awful at formatting my posts, so I expect they won't work. 


http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/07/can-our-voices-be-heard-how-do.php

 

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/07/followup-our-voice-and-the-med.php

 

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/07/our-ammunition-countermeasures.php


http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/07/sudden-citizens-action-against.php


Comments (18)

The links worked!

Well done, TTGZ.

Thanks TTGZ. It's great to keep this going.

Disclaimer: this isn't *my* project, nor is it uniquely raider's or ripper's.... it seems to be something that has grown organically over the last week or so. A testament to the organizing power of the blogosphere!

This is exactly true. There is no project at all unless there are people with passion behind it.

What I know is that I don't know all that much. I'm not a Washington insider. I don't pore through the MSM to catch their abuses. I didn't even know most of the sites or bloggers who might be worth checking out. But I do now.

What I do know is that I am sick of the abuse of the media. I don't know how important this is, but I believe that the use of MSM as a propaganda echo chamber is one of the biggest threats to our democracy there is. It reinforces tyrants, liars and criminals, and it misinforms the electorate so that, in fact, it taints the vote.

Any agency, and in particular, the so-called news media, that systematically attempts to sway the vote by lies, collusion or conspiracy with one party and partisanship in the name of news is treasonous. I think suppression of the vote and intentional subversion of our rights to vote or to our access to real and true information is treasonous. If it's "by the people" then it must be by people who are informed. Otherwise, upon what is their vote based? A vote based on a lie is an undemocratic vote - a sham. And it is a disgrace when partisans pose as purveyors of news and "fair" opinion, when they are obviously neither.

That's why I'm passionate about this. To me, though perhaps not to others, this is a threat to the deepest principles upon which this country was founded.

After 9/11, when the Bush fear & smear machine was calling anyone who didn't agree with them unpatriotic, I wrote my first-ever political blog. It was my defense of why I was a patriot. It wasn't anything spectacular, but it clearly outlined for me that patriotism involved questioning authority, putting the needs of people and country before ideology and valuing truth over obedience.

I will say, quite clearly, that I consider myself a citizen of the world first, and this country second. The world is made up of a natural environment I love and that always instills me with awe, and a collection of people of different races and cultures who, taken all together, are the human race, and who, as a diverse group, represent some of the most vile and the most sublime qualities and activities. I don't see borders written upon the Earth, but only in our artificial divisions.

I will say, also, that there is no country or system of government that I believe in more than the United States of America. I believe in what the Founding Fathers of this country attempted to do. And despite the many problems we've faced, those documents have guided us to become better over time. In the year 2000, the Supreme Court put into office a usurper. A person who has failed at everything, and as the years were to prove, continued his losing streak - except, somehow, at the polls in 2004. In part, I blame the media for not doing their job, and, in fact, for clearly colluding with the current regime to keep them in power and to deliver their message.

If we are to keep this American experiment moving forward, and not backward toward tyranny and a feudal-style rich/poor balance, we must change the course we are on, and, to me, the MSM is a major part of the problem.

I have heard people say something to the effect that, "Oh, people won't be fooled this time. Look at the polls. People won't believe these people this time. Don't worry about the MSM. They are on their way out. McCain is pathetic candidate. Obama will win in a landslide." And things to that effect. I don't want to base my future on their assertions. I don't want to overestimate the critical thinking abilities of a misinformed and manipulated electorate. I want, very much, to strike back and restore balance and truth to the system.

But of course, I'm not important. I'm not some crusader who can march into the halls of power and demand accountability. I'm not a person with billions of dollars to spend or with a famous name to trade upon. I'm just some random poster at TPM who has another life that I need to pay the bills and who, probably like you, only has a strong desire to see change, but no clear and coherent plan how that will be effected.

But... I started speaking out. I started suggesting ideas and asking for others to do the same. And I have watched as more and more people have signed on, have volunteered and have placed their own stamp, their own perspective on this effort. And because of that, I see some momentum, and regardless of what our individual strength may be, if we believe in taking back our country, then we can, collectively, make a difference.

I personally am going to do whatever I can to help elect Obama. That means sending money, raising money, volunteering time and talking to people. I hope you will, too. But if bringing a citizen's counter-force against media lies, distortions and bias can help that cause, and ultimately make our country more secure from tyranny and ignorance through media reform, then I think we need to try.

Ok. I've gotten that off my chest.

So, what's the plan?

Blockquotes didn't end as it should. Read most of that as not quoted. Damn TPM HTML codes!

Worthy cause
:)

Sign up info?

If you want to get involved outside TPM, where we can work together non-anonymously, email contact info to eddiestinkypants@att.net.

Ripper is managing this email address. Thank you all for your support. I think we're in synch with Dan Rather and Bill Moyers. Let's keep going.

I wrote my comment above before reading this by Bill Moyers:

Corporate media colludes with democracy's demise.
I heard this story a long time ago, growing up in Choctaw County in Oklahoma before my family moved to Texas. A tribal elder was telling his grandson about the battle the old man was waging within himself. He said, "It is between two wolves, my son. One is an evil wolf: anger, envy, sorrow, greed, self-pity, guilt, resentment, lies, false pride, superiority and ego. The other is the good wolf: joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith."
The boy took this in for a few minutes and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf won?"
The old Cherokee replied simply, "The one I feed."
Democracy is that way. The wolf that wins is the one we feed. And in our society, media provides the fodder.
Our media institutions, deeply embedded in the power structures of society, are not providing the information that we need to make our democracy work. To put it another way, corporate media consolidation is a corrosive social force. It robs people of their voice in public affairs and pollutes the political culture. And it turns the debates about profound issues into a shouting match of polarized views promulgated by partisan apologists who trivialize democracy while refusing to speak the truth about how our country is being plundered.
Our dominant media are ultimately accountable only to corporate boards whose mission is not life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for the whole body of our republic, but the aggrandizement of corporate executives and shareholders.
These organizations' self-styled mandate is not to hold public and private power accountable, but to aggregate their interlocking interests. Their reward is not to help fulfill the social compact embodied in the notion of "We, the people," but to manufacture news and information as profitable consumer commodities.
Democracy without honest information creates the illusion of popular consent at the same time that it enhances the power of the state and the privileged interests that the state protects. And nothing characterizes corporate media today more than its disdain toward the fragile nature of modern life and its indifference toward the complex social debate required of a free and self-governing people.
Let's look at what is happening with the Internet. This spring the cable giant Comcast tried to pack a Federal Communications Commission (FCC) hearing on network neutrality by hiring strangers off the street to ensure that advocates of net neutrality would not be able to get a seat in the hearing room.
SaveTheInternet.com - a bipartisan coalition - and its supporters helped expose the ruse. Soon after, there was a new hearing, this time without the gerrymandering seating by opponents of an open Internet.
Now Rep. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) has introduced a bill to advance network neutrality, and it has become an issue in the presidential campaign.
We must be vigilant. The fate of the cyber-commons - the future of the mobile Web and the benefits of the Internet as open architecture - is up for grabs. And the only antidote to the power of organized money in Washington is the power of organized people at the net roots.
When Verizon tried to censor NARAL's (National Abortion Rights Action League) use of text messaging last year, it was quick action by Save the Internet that led the company to reverse its position. Those efforts also led to an FCC proceeding on this issue.
Wherever the Internet flows - on PCs, cell phones, mobile devices and, very soon, new digital television sets - we must ensure that it remains an open and nondiscriminatory medium of expression.
By 2011, the market analysts tell us, the Internet will surpass newspapers in advertising revenues. With MySpace and Dow Jones controlled by News Corporation's Rupert Murdoch, Microsoft determined to acquire Yahoo!, and with advertisers already telling some bloggers, "Your content is unacceptable," we could potentially lose what's now considered an unstoppable long tail of content offering abundant, new, credible and sustainable sources of news and information.
So, what will happen to news in the future, as the already tattered boundaries between journalism and advertising is dispensed with entirely and as content programming, commerce and online communities are rolled into one profitably attractive package?
Last year, the investment firm of Piper Jaffray predicted that much of the business model for new media would be just that kind of hybrid. They called it "communitainment." (Oh, George Orwell, where are you now that we need you?)
Across the media landscape, the health of our democracy is imperiled. Buffeted by gale force winds of technological, political and demographic forces, without a truly free and independent press, this 250-year-old experiment in self-government will not make it. As journalism goes, so goes democracy.
Mergers and buyouts change both old and new media. They bring a frenzied focus on cost-cutting, while fattening the pockets of the new owners and their investors. The result: journalism is degraded through the layoffs and buyouts of legions of reporters and editors.
Advertising Age reports that U.S. media employment has fallen to a 15-year low. The Los Angeles Times alone has experienced a withering series of resignations by editors who refused to turn a red pencil into an editorial scalpel.
The new owner of the Tribune Company, real estate mogul Sam Zell, recently toured his new property Los Angeles Times, telling employees in the newsroom that the challenge is this: How do we get somebody 126 years old to get it up? "Well," said Zell, "I'm your Viagra."
He told his journalists that he didn't have an editorial agenda or a perspective about newspapers' roles as civic institutions. "I'm a businessman," he said. "All what matters in the end is the bottom line."
Zell then told Wall Street analysts that to save money he intends to eliminate 500 pages of news a week across all of the Tribune Company's 12 papers. That can mean eliminating some 82 editorial pages every week just from the Los Angeles Times. What will he use to replace reporters and editors? He says to the Wall Street analysts, "I'll use maps, graphics, lists, rankings and stats." Sounds as if Zell has confused Viagra with Lunesta.
Former Baltimore Sun journalist and creator of HBO's The Wire, David Simon, chronicled the effect that crosscutting and consolidation has had in media businesses and on the communities where those businesses have made so much money. He wrote in a Washington Post op-ed, "I did not encounter a sustained period in which anyone endeavored to spend what it would actually cost to make the Baltimore Sun the most essential and deep-thinking and well-written account of life in central Maryland. The people you needed to gather for that kind of storytelling were ushered out the door, buyout after buyout."
Or as journalist Eric Alterman recently wrote in the New Yorker: "It is impossible not to wonder what will become of not just news but democracy itself, in a world in which we can no longer depend on newspapers to invest their unmatched resources and professional pride in helping the rest of us to learn, however imperfectly, what we need to know."
For example, we needed to know the truth about Iraq. The truth could have spared that country from rack and ruin, saved thousands of American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives, and freed hundreds of billions of dollars for investment in the American economy and infrastructure.
But as reporters at Knight Ridder - one of the few organizations that systematically and independently set out to challenge the claims of the administration - told us at the time, and as my colleagues and I reported in our PBS documentary Buying the War, and as Scott McClellan has now confessed, and as the Senate Intelligence Committee confirmed in June, the Bush administration deceived Americans into supporting an unprovoked war on another country. And it did so using erroneous and misleading intelligence - and with the complicity of the dominant media. It has led to a conflict that, instead of being over quickly and bloodlessly as predicted, continues to this day into its sixth year.
We now know that a neoconservative is an arsonist who sets a house on fire and six years later boasts that no one can put it out. You couldn't find a more revealing measure of the state of the dominant media today than the continuing ubiquitous presence on the air and in print of the very pundits and experts, self-selected message multipliers of a disastrous foreign policy, who got it all wrong in the first place. It just goes to show, when the bar is low enough, you can never be too wrong.
The dominant media remains in denial about their role in passing on the government's unverified claims as facts. That's the great danger. It's not simply that they dominate the story we tell ourselves publicly every day. It's that they don't allow other alternative competing narratives to emerge, against which the people could measure the veracity of all the claims.
Now the dominant media is saying, "Well, we did ask. We did do our job by asking tough questions during the run-up to the war."
But I've been through the transcripts. And I'll tell you, you will find very few tough questions. And if you come across them, you will discover that they were asked of the wrong people.
John Walcott, Washington bureau chief for McClatchy, formerly Knight Ridder, recently said of his colleagues in the dominant media, "They asked a lot of questions, but they asked even the right questions of the wrong people." They were asked of the sources who had cooked the intelligence books in the first place or who had memorized the White House talking points and were prepared to answer every tough question with a soft evasion or an easy lie, swallowed by a gullible questioner.
Following the March 2003 invasion, Vice President Dick Cheney dropped into a media dinner to thank the guests for their all-the-war-all-the-time coverage of the contrived and manufactured war.
Sadly, in many respects, the Fourth Estate has become the fifth column of democracy, colluding with the powers that be in a culture of deception that subverts the thing most necessary to freedom, and that is the truth.
But we're not alone and we know what we need to say. So let us all go tell it on the mountains and in the cities. From our websites and laptops, the street corners and coffeehouses, the delis and diners, the factory floors and the bookstores. On campus, at the mall, the synagogue, sanctuary and mosque, let's tell it where we can, when we can and while we still can.
Democracy only works when ordinary people claim it as their own.

Bill Moyers - great as always.

Heh, I just suggested Bill Moyers in the other thread. When they tried to sneak past MORE media consolidation, he was one of the few that spoke out against it
There was also a conservative NYTimes columnist that sis, surprisingly, William Safire.

That was, surprisingly

Some people have been asking if there's anything they can do to move this forward. I'm taking a cautious approach, I admit, and trying to get a good handle on what we can do and how to do it.

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One thing that would be very helpful is to make a list of every site and blogger who has been mentioned as a potential resource/ally in this process.

TWO
With the list in hand, if anyone wants to examine, review and evaluate those sites and the accessibility of those bloggers, that would be very helpful.

THREE
While evaluating sites, please note the contact information for that site, or for any preferred bloggers. Such a list would be very helpful.

Based on our talks with Media Matters and a few representatives of other sites, it seems that people like the ideas we are proposing, but for one reason or another may not be able to respond directly to our suggestions. We are continuing conversations with Media Matters, and I do intend on contacting representatives of other sites - so the list requested above would be quite useful.

One of the tasks I've put on my list is to present a more structural approach - a more specific description of what I think we need. Once I've done that, I hope we will continue the discussion and look at the various directions we can go.

I'm not going to say more right now because I want to see how much support we really get. So far, only two people have emailed with contact information. I hope more of you will send contact info to Ripper's eddiestinkypants@att.net so we can begin working outside of TPM, where we can, perhaps, be more efficient.

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Two Cents:

First: Thanks for the comprehensive post on the importance of an fearless and truthful press with some American spirit, raider99.

Second: spinning is done in many ways, including by omission and misconstrued facts. I'm sure what is best will become more clear as this moves forward, but for the sake of an effective counter to any misinformation peddled by the MSM, perhaps the project site should have four (or more?) main parts:

1. FACT CHECK: Propaganda-buster material: facts so absurdly spun that we can clearly expose that spin, whether by video, articles or both.

2. OMISSIONS: A posting or list of key events and information that is NOT covered in the news, despite that it is critical to the welfare of the country and the citizens. Journalists from independent news orgs--who often do tell these stories-- could forward these stories to us. We could then form diverse panel to vote on which are the most important of the day to post. The news organizations that cover the greatest number of relevant stories could get a higher SCAMMD rating.

3. COMPARATIVE COVERAGE CHART: A simple chart that illustrates what IS covered in the news and to what extent that is covered.(e.g. many news reporters excitedly replay the Paris Hilton saga over and over while young Americans (and Iraqis) are being killed and having their limbs blown off and IOU's to China are piling up in the US treasury) I think it would be very informative for people to see a chart that tracks data on this, even if only done for one day a month. A chart like this could illustrate the following information:

June 10, 0000:

- paris hilton's latest party and the number of balloons took up 26 minutes of every hour on XXX news

- the latest attacks on troops in Iraq war took up 3 minutes every hour on XXX news

- what Wrignt said about Obama's political moves took up 20 minutes on XXX news

- the law that broadened the governments ability to conduct surveillance on Americans, passed today by Obama and Congress, took up 30 second on XXX news

We could put a column in the chart for each MSM news organization.

*Perhaps most importantly, we could also list how many minutes were dedicated to speculation by "experts" vs how many were dedicated to reporting facts.

4. EXPERT AGENDA ALERT: Maybe also provide a list that assesses the "experts," experts and talking heads who appear on the media. Information provided could include a list of their political associations and any relevant money trails, etc. A team of independent, investigative journalists could put this list together and keep it updated. This way, before a viewer took what an "expert," expert or talking head said to heart, they'd have a better idea of where that person was coming from.

That said, I think the main job here is to keep this effort simple and streamlined, in both concept and execution.

Would Cobert and/or Stewart put a daily propaganda buster from SCAMMD on their shows? Bet they would have a regular field day with this sort of material and jump at the chance to help. Another win-win. This would attract a massive audience to SCAMMD, no?

What about a monthly youtube video of the best SCAMMDs of the month?

A couple of sites that come to mind as worth putting on a list for vetting:

motherjones.com (happens to have a good interview with Feingold about FISA having passed)

Here are a few groups of Independent journalists telling the stories that do not get told by the MSM:

national independent news org:
indymedia.us

examples of state independent news orgs:
nyc.indymedia.org
bostonindymedia.org

example of a city independent news org:
santacruz.indymedia.org

To be sure, there are some organizations out there with underlying agendas that would conflict with our mission to expose unspun facts. (BIG period there). So we have to be careful who we get involved with and to what extent. I like the idea of a free and clear effort that is guided by the most reputable, neutral, trusty orgs and respected journalists like Rather and others mentioned that might help with resources and advice to get this off the ground. Their sponsorship would increase the value of the brand. And then anybody would be welcome to link to this project on their front pages, etc. I would think that some of the contacts you are making would have suggestions as to which organizations are best.

Keep the updates coming.
More later...

These ideas are great, Logico, if we could find the volunteers to do the research. This is not a trivial proposal. I like it, but I'm not sure how to get the resources together to accomplish it. I'm definitely going to consider this direction, however. It has some very compelling vision to it.

I would love to have you on our outside TPM list via eddiestinkypants. As we go forward, I hope we will be able to brainstorm and figure out how to implement strategies to accomplish our goals. I would really like to have your creative thinking as part of that process.

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Glad you like the ideas. I'm working to make some room in my schedule so I can get more directly involved. My vacation just ended this week, so the timing is not good at the moment. I'll definitely let you know when I free up some time to participate more fully. In the meantime, I'll follow this and contribute whatever I can to the updates.

I think someone mentioned this already, but it really seems TPM could benefit from helping to build the developing framework and network for this idea since SCAMMD would provide useful information for their Horses Mouth (news about the news) site. Or perhaps they could implement SCAMMD as their new Horses Mouth page. A novel feature like this would really distinguish them from competing blogs and make their site even more comprehensive. If a take action link were added, that would be TPM promoting fact-based, unspun news. That's just more credibility for them. Even more credibility if the SCAMMD/Horses Mouth is run by a rotating panel of journalists from independent news orgs.

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Note this on the horses mouth (otherwise known as a blog on the reporting of politics)

April 29, 2008 -- 10:19 AM EST // link //
Many of you have written in to ask about the status of The Horse's Mouth and the delay in relaunching it. So here's a quick update.

First off, my sincerest apologies for not updating you sooner. The truth is that after putting the blog on hiatus, I discovered that it was rather nice to have a break from posting here while simultaneously running TPM Election Central. I needed the breather, frankly. So I let that hiatus drag on for much longer than I expected to. This is the sole reason for the delay in starting up again.

So here's what's going to happen. The blog will be reborn soon, but this time, it will be part of TPM Cafe, rather than being a stand alone blog. There are several reasons for this which I will share when the blog is back up and running, but the bottom line is that the posts will be tagged, making them available in one place, so your reading experience won't change. And there will be comments, too.

I'm reluctant to put a time frame on when this will happen, but it should be done within the next several weeks, perhaps when the crush of election news slows down a bit. Apologies again for the long delay in updating you.

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I have written twice to Josh Marshall at an email address I got from Ripper. I haven't heard an answer, which means either he's busy and unable to answer (or hasn't seen my emails in his crush of emails) or isn't really interested in supporting this. I'd like to think the former, rather than the latter, but it has been my experience that little people like us get ignored by big people quite often. It's hard as hell to get heard over the noise, and, to be fair, there are lots of people out there who think their message is the most important thing since sliced bread.

It occurs to me that if TPM is to support this idea, Josh and others who have influence should hear from more people than me. But that's up to each individual to decide if they want to agitate for something along the lines of what we're discussing.

I agree with you that this could be great for TPM, but I also figure it will take resources that they might not have to spare. Meanwhile, we'll keep plugging.

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Correction: that is, the Horse's mouth, otherwise known as "a blog about the reporting of politics--and the politics of reporting." Time for some to refuel with some sleep.


Good summary, TTGZ, but I just want to add something for now:

A 'clearing-house' website has been proposed, essentially a list of MSM inaccuracies from the previous 24 - 48 hours, and a list of telephone numbers and email-addresses for volunteers to contact and complain.

It'll be good to include fax numbers, as well, because they carry weight through their tangibility.

I'm going to digest all the rest of this tomorrow, but I'm with you/us. I'll send contact info to eddiestinkypants, too.

yup.

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