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Going on Offence 101: Can Obama Control the Message?
It has been a long time since I've really seen the Democrats control the message during election times. It seems that the neocons and Repubs just are better at going on offense - in the most offensive way, I might add.
But this article from HuffPo about McCain changing his Afghanistan strategy because of Obama got me thinking: Can we control the message for once?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/15/is-obama-forcing-mccain-t_n_112890.html








Comments (20)
Link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/15/is-obama-forcing-mccain-t_n_112890.html
July 15, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
That would certainly make the MSM either irrelevant or logical extensions of our story -- probably the latter.
The task would be to create a message which even the people who lie about anything would be stuck. In other words, to put them in a Catch 22 at every turn.
I think you're right. Obama's people knew what the Afghanistan speech would do to McCain. I wonder how to do that with the economy (at least after McCain's campaign gets done shooting itself in the face).
July 15, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for your comments. Good thoughts. (Don't forget to rec, if you want the discussion to continue.)
July 15, 2008 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
The MSM was all over Obama "refining" his Iraq stance, I wonder if they'll give such coverage to McCain adopting policy that Obama has been pushing for over a year, one that McCain personally spoke out against weeks ago before seemingly adopting it out of think air today (as did Bush). Will Obama get credit?
July 15, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's up to the Obama campaign to drive the message. No easy task, perhaps, but it would win him respect and more votes. People are tired of being pushed around by the ugly neocon spin machine.
Don't know if Obama can pull it off, but he seems pretty good at gentle, but telling, barbs.
July 16, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, what is Josh, chopped liver?
I see HuffPo running with this observation at 2:48 PM, and Josh running it at 2:49. But if HuffPo is on Pacific Time, maybe Josh actually beat them to it. Or maybe they both picked it up simultaneously from a third source.
But in any case, thanks for the post. McCain's uneasy foot-shuffling about Afghanistan deserves as much airtime as it can get, partly for the sake of the ol' "flip-flop" label, but primarily because it conflicts with his approach to Iraq.
July 15, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well talking of Huff Post, what's with Donna Brazile publicly criticizing the campaign?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/15/are-obama-and-mccain-ebbi_n_112972.html
July 15, 2008 11:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
No! No criticising the campaign! The MSM are watching!
July 16, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a decent post by Matt Y about Obama's mysterious silence re: JMcCain's support for Social Security privatization.
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/the_whites_of_their_eyes.php#comments
General conclusion of commenters: Obama seems to be rolling out a lot of substantive positive speeches right now, introducing himself and his policies to the electorate.
The hardest-hitting negative stuff is being saved for Sep/Oct.
July 15, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lure McCain into a false sense of security so he keeps talking freely and then drop the hammer come the fall? I guess it's one possibility. I think Obama still fears coming off as the ABM "Angry Black Man", he couldn't be aggressive against Hillary and now can't attack the old timer McCain without it looking like he's bullying him.
July 15, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Must admit I've been wondering about Obama's communications staff - there's a good post on this over at Daily Kos -
`Obama Needs to Fire Bill Burton
which crystallised things for me:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/15/8561/21079/775/551458.
July 15, 2008 10:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, that's brilliant.
It succintly described my disrespect for Obama's so-called soaring rhetoric. "Blah blah. Fucking mealy-mouthed" is right. Maybe I have A.D.S., but I don't have the time - spit it out as something I can remember, or schedule a poetry reading (but it ain't Baudelaire, so better get it over with now). Okay, other people likey, fine. But now that the media has officially ended its love of Obama (or shut down its Hillary hate for the season), no one's going to take the time during the summertime blahs. I'd say the writer even missed it even by a few. "McCain has misled you - he's flopped more times than a Robin Williams movie, and now wants you to pretend he's solid. When he says he's a Maverick, that's code for "out there, somewhere".
July 16, 2008 9:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, raider, I think the answer to your question depends on how much of Obama's message the press will let out. But Obama does have to work on his media game. The GOP machine is vicious and connected.
July 16, 2008 12:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dude! We's got yer back
Stay away from Huff Post.
Please
July 16, 2008 1:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Between you and me, I've noticed a pattern. Josh writes something up, and four hours later it appears on HuffPo.
It's like TPM with an entertainment section.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
July 16, 2008 9:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
There's the message, then there's the context, then there's the effect of the response that he gives, given all of those factors being taken into account.
One of the things that Obama does so well, (and he accomplishes it in part by doing it the way that he does it) is that he doesn't come off as antagonistic, or shrill, or flaming at the mouth, because he always responds to the controversy and doesn't start it or stir it up by flaming. His response is always measured, well thought-out and well reasoned, while McCain's very seldom is. This is having an effect. And for the Obama campaign, it's a very positive one. It makes him look: smarter, stronger, nicer, more controlled, less shilling/pandering (for our beer-advertising-addicted contingent, more controlled, less shilling!) and more true to what he believes.
Has anyone noticed that McCain can only attack anything about Obama's campaign by either questioning Obama's surrogates' behavior, or doing the questioning using his own surrogates? Obama's got him tied up in knots, trying to be civil (and McCain will fail at this, and soon).
July 16, 2008 7:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
The only purpose of this post, to me, was to indicate that, just maybe, Obama has opportunities to start directing the message instead of responding to it. The administration and McCain are, to some extent, starting to say the same things he has been saying for a while.
But this is up to him. We can reinforce that he can move the message by supporting that idea, but, really, it is going to be up to him, and his ability to overcome the MSM blackout of his message and effectiveness, if possible.
July 16, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has proven his ability to outsmart the Clinton machine and the media. I'm confident that he has come up with an strategic offense plan to outsmart the media bias and McCain. I'm sure he continues to work on this as it is essential to his success.
But if Obama is elected, the media spin will be even more damaging, because it will work to prevent him from leading any meaningful changes that threaten media corporate interests. So ensuring Obama is elected is one thing, but an effort like SCAMMD will be essential to a President Obama's ability to make the changes he has been talking about.
July 16, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fran's Huff post link reiterates THE recent and pervasive GOP meme that has been circulating througout the elitist opinionators for weeks and is now emerging from the dem strategerist class ie:
"Why o' WHY? isn't Obama stronger (in national polling) against the Bush-huggin' old fart?
The underlying presumption being that of course, he should be waaaaaaaaay ahead by some never-stated mysterious metric. Nevermind that the Newsweek polling showing a 15% lead was widely dismissed by the same people bemoaning Obama's perceived weakness.
Judging from how the Obama campaign ran the primary, I suspect their focus is on how the balls are bouncing in individual states rather than kvetch and rend combovers about polling questions designed to elicit pre-determined results.
Greg Sargent and Eric Kleefeld did a great job of showing comparisons of polling questions re Iraq here;
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/polls_public_divided_on_iraq_b.php
Could the Obama camp do a better job of memewatch? Hell yes. They should assign staffers to each MSM teevee outlet, their corporate print partners and their online auxilliaries. I watch MSNBC and the patterns are predictable with the "Morning Joe" show offering the first look at the meme du jour.
For instance, today's theme is based on a poll showing how weak McCain is among AA voters (DUH) and what he can do to change that equation? Obviously the answer is not-a-fucking-thing but the bogus questions allows endless coverage of McCain's speech to the NAACP with snips of his praise of Obama.
AA voters are not the target here. The aim is to enhance the maverick brave good guy myth and change the discussion away from Afghanistan and other touchy subjects that show McCain's weakness on his supposedly strongest suit(s).
How the Obama camp counter what is a daily theme set by McCain's PR operatives and network functionaries and reiterated throughout their coverage during the day?
Does Obama have operatives with the same kind of insider connections/clout as the GOP and the Clintons do? In general, judging by the usually minimal exposure of the Obama camp's counterpoints, I'm guessing they don't. Also, at some point, it may be beyond their control as demonstrated by MSNBC's stable of obscure "editorial writers" who are called on to pontificate ignorantly and on script during their daytime coverage.
Only the headliners with their own shows have the option to pick and choose analysts with POVs and expertise they want.
Campaign surrogates are a mixed bag and I have no bloody idea how they are picked by the campaign and/or the networks . To my sometimes paranoid eyes, the most effective talkers for "our" side appear to be sidelined unless they are campaign officials or campaign designated politicians.
The latter group is also of uneven quality.
July 16, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Raider99, a late reply to your comment from a past thread:
This is the sort of thing that could be handled by a viral, simple and educations slogan-- perhaps the slogan beneath each SCAMMD logo and link. It could then be sustained by the SCAMMD concept.
A quick example of a viral slogan that would need to be refined, then distilled into a single sentence:
"Listener beware: The for-profit corporate media in the U.S. does not always inform the public with the real facts. Information is often spun in a way that benefits the media corporate interests, not your interests."
There are ways to educate that are painless for those too busy to take the time to educate themselves and those who don't want to be educated (do people who don't want to be educated really exist?). After all, the media is (mis-)educating the people you speak about every day.
The constant repetition of "WMD," "terrorism" and the "threat level" were just a few of the little phrases that broke the treasury wide open and caused a willingness in many to give up rights and outsource their thinking to others.
THIS SIMPLE APPROACH TO REACH MILLIONS CAN WORK BOTH WAYS. Misinformation could be replaced with key facts. So what is called for right now is balance, a warning to Americans about the failings of the media and to encourage people to think for themselves. It's essential that unspun facts and education become a high-profile part of the daily input diet.
And honestly, I think most Americans are so ready think for themselves, but they just want some reliable information and aren't sure who to trust anymore.
There's a need waiting to be filled here. SCAMMD, properly implemented, can fill that need.
July 16, 2008 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
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