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Faith, the Public Square and the ACLU...

On July 1st, Barack Obama went to Zanesville,Ohio to give speech about Faith.  It was notable, not for the fact that a Democrat was out there, openly talking about his religious convictions (in a way the Republican Candidate won't be), but for his proposal to, apparently, expand on Bush's Faith based Programs.  At least that's what the headline writers focused on.

CHICAGO - Reaching out to evangelical voters, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is announcing plans to expand President Bush's program steering federal social service dollars to religious groups and — in a move sure to cause controversy — support some ability to hire and fire based on faith.

And with that, a million hearts across America started to break.  If you listen carefully, you can hear the tiny violin I'm playing for them right now.

That is the opening paragraph of the AP story posted early in the morning of July 1st.

One problem...the AP got it wrong.

Here's what the Senator actually said:

Now, make no mistake, as someone who used to teach constitutional law, I believe deeply in the separation of church and state, but I don't believe this partnership will endanger that idea – so long as we follow a few basic principles. First, if you get a federal grant, you can't use that grant money to proselytize to the people you help and you can't discriminate against them – or against the people you hire – on the basis of their religion. Second, federal dollars that go directly to churches, temples, and mosques can only be used on secular programs. And we'll also ensure that taxpayer dollars only go to those programs that actually work. 

Gee, AP.  I can totally see how you got that confused.

Note to the AP, you might lay off the sprinkled donuts.  Just hand them to John McCain, don't snack on them yourselves.  You get a sugar rush, and apparently, it affects your reporting.

A friend of mine sent me an email that same morning.  His tone was one of clear disappointment.  He lamented Bush's blurring of church and state, and was disappointed that Senator Obama seemed to be headed on a similar course.

A lot of us on the left have been freaking out about the Senator's recent, so-called shift to the center, saying he's already playing not to lose.  But for anyone who's read the Senator's speeches, read his books, or has been...you know...paying attention...his stance shouldn't come as a total surprise.  I think the problem comes down to his one paragraph that I don't think a lot of people read on Page 11 of The Audacity of Hope.

I am new enough on the national political scene that I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views. As such, I am bound to disappoint some, if not ail, of them. Which perhaps indicates a second, more intimate theme to this book-namely, how I, or anybody in public office, can avoid the pitfalls of fame, the hunger to please, the fear of loss, and thereby retain that kernel of truth, that singular voice within each of us that reminds us of our deepest commitments.

As much as he is one of us, Senator Obama is his own man, capable of an independent thought or two, even those of us on the left uncomfortable.

Funny thing, I thought that's why we liked him.

Traditional liberal discomfort with the notion of Religion stretches back to a more fundamental discomfort with Religion in the public square.  Let's face it, Religion has been used as a weapon so many times, that it's hard  not to view it with suspicion.  Added to that, so many Religious types have revealed themselves to be nothing more than knee-jerk, mouth-breathing Conservatives, therefore,  the enemy.  These (among others) are the reason why so many of us have shifted away from Church.  Why sit in the pews, and have things that you cherish and believe in belittled by your Pastor, Reverend or Priest?

Senator Obama put it another way:

At best, [Democrats] avoid the conversation about religious values altogether, fearful of offending anyone and claiming that - regardless of our personal beliefs - constitutional principles tie our hands. At worst, there are some liberals who dismiss religion in the public square as inherently irrational or intolerant, insisting on a caricature of religious Americans that paints them as fanatical, or thinking that the very word "Christian" describes one's political opponents, not people of faith.

Mind you, that was from the same speech that got James Dobson's knickers in a twist.

Liberals, however, have a heritage of using Religion, and Religious imagery as both sword and shield.  The moral underpinnings of the Civil War, the Civil Rights Movement, Women's Sufferage, the Labor Movement carried with it the morality and justice of the Church (the kind we all used to love) that ushered in these new ages and new ideas.

Martin Luther King, after all, was a Baptist Minister.  He wasn't thanking Gaea, Zeus, Xenu or the Earth Spirit, when he extolled that we would be "Free at Last".

"With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right," Lincoln said in his second Inaugural Address.

Shortly before resorting to the "Johnson Treatment", LBJ would often say "Come now, let us reason together", which was taken from Isaiah 1:18.

Impressed?  Don't be.  I had to look 'em all up.

So, when Senator Obama talked his talk in Zanesville, he was echoing words he wrote back on page 221 of The Audacity of Hope.

Allowing the use of school property for meeting by voluntary student prayer groups should not be a treat, any more than its use by the high school Republican Club should threaten Democrats.  And one can envision certain faith-based programs -- targeting ex-offenders or substance abusers -- that offer a uniquely powerful way of solving problems and here merit carefully tailored support.

This position is unacceptable to a lot of progressives.  They beieve, as I do, in the separation of church and state.  After all, another friend told me, it's in the Constitution.

Yeah...except for the part where it isn't...at least not explicitly.

Oh boy, this is going to be complicated.

(Okay, let me first say that I'm a total layman.  I don't have a Law Degree, so if there are any Lawyers out there reading this, and I've totally blown this, lemme know.)

Okay, first things first.  Separation of Church and state.

Nowhere in the Constitution can you find the phrase "Separation of Church and state"  Instead, the First Amendment says this:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It's also mentioned, briefly in Article 6:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Now, I am by no means saying that the Separation of Church and State is a false idea.  Quite the contrary, it is as basic to the American ideal as the right to bear arms is.  It may not say as much in the Constitution, but it has (right or wrong) become a part of who we are.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Apparently, Justice Scalia decided to delete that first part.  Then again, who cares what the Framers thought, right fat man?

Looking at Wikipedia, the concept of Separation of Church and State seems to trace its origin to a letter from Thomas Jefferson in 1801 to the Danbury Baptists:

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

Okay, it may not be in the Constitution, and I have no idea if it even counts as one of the Federalist Papers, but one of the Founders clearly believes there to be a wall between the two.

The Senator reiterated this point in the Call to Renewal speech:

[Conservative Leaders] need to understand the critical role that the separation of church and state has played in preserving not only our democracy, but the robustness of our religious practice. Folks tend to forget that during our founding, it wasn't the atheists or the civil libertarians who were the most effective champions of the First Amendment. It was the persecuted minorities, it was Baptists like John Leland who didn't want the established churches to impose their views on folks who were getting happy out in the fields and teaching the scripture to slaves. It was the forbearers of the evangelicals who were the most adamant about not mingling government with religious, because they did not want state-sponsored religion hindering their ability to practice their faith as they understood it.

Consider this put another way, from another source.

Religious freedom is a fundamental human right that is guaranteed by the First Amendment's Free Exercise and Establishment clauses.  It encompasses not only the right to believe (or not to believe), but also the right to express and to manifest religious beliefs. These rights are fundamental and should not be subject to political process and majority votes.

Wow.  Who said that?

Apparently, those infamous right-wing Religious Fundamentalists, the ACLU.

Yeah, that ACLU.  Our ACLU.  The one I'm a card-carrying member of (at $35 bucks a pop.)

They go on:

Religion is pervasive in the public square in the United States - and it is constitutionally protected.

And to further back the Senator up, the ACLU says...

Children are free to pray in public schools either as individuals or in groups. In addition, whenever a teacher opens up an assignment topic for the children's choice (such as which book to read, what to discuss in a talk to the class, or which song to sing), students may choose religious themes - and the ACLU has protected their right to do so.  In addition, schools may offer courses about religion or about the Bible or other religious works.

Basically, the notion of prayer in the public schools is not illegal...so long as it is being exercised by individual citizens.  Even Teachers can join in, so long as they are acting as individual citizens.  The nanosecond such prayer becomes a mandate by these employees of the state, then they're violating the Establishment Clause.

It's a fine line, and even we liberals don't know it all the time.  I really didn't know it until I did the research for this piece.  It is so often said that Prayer in Public Schools is illegal.  It's not...depending on how its performed.

So the ACLU is okay with Senator's notion of Prayer in the Public Schools.

But they go further still.  They actually have an opinion on Faith-Based programs.  And what they said shocked me further still:

Supporting the good work of faith-based social service providers should not mean abandoning basic American ideals. We must not allow the vital services of faith-based groups to become co-opted by the administration as mere government-funded religion.

The government already can and does work collaboratively with faith-based organizations.  It has long granted tax dollars to religious social service providers that agree not to discriminate in hiring or providing services, and that operate their social services in a secular manner.  These types of religiously affiliated charities do not deny people employment based on faith, nor do they mix religious activity in with their government-funded services.

I have a strange hunch that the ACLU will have no problem with what Senator Obama is trying to do.  In fairness, they have fought, and continue to fight against aspects of these same Faith-based programs that discriminate, divide or (more importantly) directly violate the establishment clause.

But that's exactly the situation the Senator is looking to avoid.

Now, I know there are some who bristle at the notion that faith has a place in the public square. But the fact is, leaders in both parties have recognized the value of a partnership between the White House and faith-based groups. President Clinton signed legislation that opened the door for faith-based groups to play a role in a number of areas, including helping people move from welfare to work. Al Gore proposed a partnership between Washington and faith-based groups to provide more support for the least of these. And President Bush came into office with a promise to "rally the armies of compassion," establishing a new Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives.

But what we saw instead was that the Office never fulfilled its promise.  Support for social services to the poor and the needy have been consistently underfunded.  Rather than promoting the cause of all faith-based organizations, former officials in the Office have described how it was used to promote partisan interests. As a result, the smaller congregations and community groups that were supposed to be empowered ended up getting short-changed.

So what is Senator Obama proposing to do?  You can say a lot of things, but when the AP says "expand" the connotation is that he wants to take Bush's program and make it bigger.  Reading his speech, something I encourage everyone to do, I think he's looking to scrap a program that has been bitterly partisan and ineffective and helping those it claims to help.

The partisan part of the Office is what drives those hard memories around the Liberal Blogosphere.  It's what drove David Kuo to resign and write his book.  The Office was little more than a tax-payer funded bribe machine, paying off well-connected Religious Leaders to make sure the Conservative Base turned out in 2004.  It's remarkable how little we've heard from the Office since then.  It seems to have gone to the same place all those Orange Alerts went in anticipation of the Democratic Convention.

Now we have Senator Obama proposing a seemingly better version of the same idea.  If anything, he wants to help fellow Community Organizers do his old job better.  But does the Senator proposing a thing automatically make it a good idea?  No.  But conversely, just because George Bush proposes an idea, doesn't automatically make it bad either.  (I so wish I could take credit for that, but I was writing this at the same time E.J. Dionne was writing his piece, and he is a writer of bigger stature so...sigh...he gets the credit.)

I'm not sure if this a good idea or not.  For one thing, what's going to be the criteria?  Are you telling me that a group of Wiccans will be able to access Federal Funds if they have an effective Drug Treatment Program?  Can a group of Atheists get some dough if they have a way to help First Time Offenders transition back to normal society?  Could Tom Cruise and John Travolta (shudder) get Federal Dollars for Narconon?

Perish the thought.

Still, my feeling is yes, right or wrong, for Obama's idea to work they have to.  After all, his program is going to be called the Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.  Neighborhood is the key word here.  But as the Senator said, he doesn't have all the details worked out yet.  This is one area that will bear watching.

Another thing, as much as I am opposed to the idea, there will be another Republican in the White House one of these days (2050 anyone?).  What's to stop him or her from turning this Office into the same Partisan cesspool it was under Bush?

Probably nothing.

In the end, we are Liberals after all; and Liberals are the tolerant ones.  We should not be scared of this idea, or any of the Senator's ideas; even the ones that contradict our own.  They are nothing if not thought out.  They always come from a place that we as Democrats, much less Liberals and/or Progressives, can access and access easily, love of country, love of our fellow man.

It is for our fellow man, that we do these things, fight these fights.  

Our fellow man has decided that he wants to go to church.  No matter what you think of the idea or think of his practice, it is ultimately his choice and his choice alone.  If you are a Liberal, you will defend his right to make that choice.  It is a Conservative who seeks to tell him where to go, what to do, and who to pray to.  The Liberal only wants to make sure that nothing bars that man's path to God, no matter what God it may be.

Right or wrong, I don't think Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, despite my own reservations will do that.

But in the end, those you of with doubts about Senator Obama, remember, he also said this in The Audacity of Hope.

I suspect that some readers may find my presentation of these issues to be insufficiently balanced. To this accusation, I stand guilty as charged. I am a Democrat, after all; my views on most topics correspond more closely to the editorial pages of the New York Times than those of the Wall Street Journal. I am angry about policies that consistently favor the wealthy and powerful over average Americans, and insist that government has an important role in opening up opportunity to all. I believe in evolution, scientific inquiry, and global warming; I believe in free speech, whether politically correct or politically incorrect, and I am suspicious of using government to impose anybody's religious beliefs-including my own-on nonbelievers. Furthermore, I am a prisoner of my own biography: I can't help but view the American experience through the lens of a black man of mixed heritage, forever mindful of how generations of people who looked like me were subjugated and stigmatized, and the subtle and not so subtle ways that race and class continue to shape our lives.

Good enough for me.

This entry was originally posted at Fort McHenry.

Comments (22)

Great post! Too bad the mainstream reporting on this has been so cartoonish. Obama is a very wise and thoughtful person, but that tends to get lost in the frenzied sound-bite jungle. I just hope enough people are digging below the surface of the reporting.

Thank you for this post. I only hope others don't skip past it due to its length, and rec'd to keep it on the shortlist...

Recommended for sure. Wonderful job providing context to a debate lacking it for the most part.

The MSM is an utter failure at any sort of nuanced or in-depth reporting but it is quite good a poorly researched gossip to well-researched gossip. I am a bit annoyed as well but I will forward this to some friends and hopefully they like the read!

Rec'd. Great stuff.

I think you may be jumping to some conclusions on a couple of things here (teachers can join in PIS, ACLU supports PIS, etc.), but I don't want to nitpick.

Separating the religion from the secular charity work is near impossible unless they operate completely independent programs (not usually the case). Money is fungible. If the gov gives another $200 million to Catholic Charities (one of the best charities in the world, without a doubt) that it would mean the Church would have some number of $millions that would have been used for those programs to use to recruit or hire Catholics only for other programs.

As it is, if you look at a field like drug and alcohol treatment, so many of those programs are run by religious orgs that would not hire counselors, caseworkers, etc. of other religions or GLBT or non-believers. I believe the ACLU will oppose Obama's program as he's proposed it. If you want to know what the ACLU might think of Obama's expansion of Bush's FBI (with supposed tighter controls on hiring and proselytizing under fed funds) look at any of their critiques of countless bills and proposals for FBIs. Here. is a start.

Well said.

I, too, am a card-carrying ACLU member, and quite an active one. I differ with the organization in their support of direct government funding to religious organizations. I would not question in the least funding of foundations associated with religious organizations, who follow all the constitutional rules Sen. Obama has set forth.

But handing out direct-to-the-church grants? Even were it not unconstitutional as I deem it to be, it is, as the current President has demonstrated, a very, very dangerous practice.

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The Office was little more than a tax-payer funded bribe machine, paying off well-connected Religious Leaders...

And it would continue to be so under a President Obama altho the grantee database would change substantially.

It's clear that the AP misrepresented Obama's position, and that's something we need to counter.

On the issue of "faith based" programs, I have no problem with people who help other people, whether they be Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Wiccans, agnostics or atheists. Being a good person is simply being a good person. If you follow religious doctrine and emulate the peacemakers and the healers and the prophets, good on you. But that's not the whole story.

It's the abuses that inevitably result from too much laxity and unclear boundaries. Yes, faith can be good. Religious people can be exceptional. But there are always people who will abuse others for their differences.

False leaders always pop up. Intolerance of minorities and undue pressures can alter people's lives in tragic ways. Opening up schools and government too far in a country dominated by one religious belief almost inevitably will cause dissension and even persecution among those who differ. Not everywhere, and not in every case, but it will happen. And over time, the dominant sect will seek more control and more still. There are already many so-called religious leaders who actively seek a theocracy, little different from those in the Middle East.

The freedom to worship (or not) as you choose is fundamental, but all too many religious people do not really support that freedom - because their god is right and the other is wrong. There is only one way, and it is OUR way. These dangerous tenets of religious excess are the reason I oppose some aspects of the increase of religious influence on our social and political scene and discourse. Personally, I'm happier if we keep that separation of church and state nice and wide.

I believe that much of what Obama believes in is the best of what religious people can do for each other and for people in need. There is an up-side to this. But the dangers are clear - at least to me - and these dangers are the ones that some of our ancestors knew first-hand.

I heard Tony Perkins (Family Research Council) on CNN last night say that Obama was doing surprisingly well with the "faith community" because he "knows how to speak our language". While that may be distressing to some, I find it very encouraging. If the Democrats could find a way to win back the church-goers, the Republicans would essentially be left with the NRA as their base. With four million members, that's not exactly an election-winning majority.

Great post, by the way. I know many on the left don't like the idea of funding faith-based programs, and some are threatened by the notion. I'm not one of those, mainly because I've worked in some of these programs, and I have a lot more faith in private organizations to get things done than in the government. The kind of work churches do is the sort of thing the government is often ill-equipped to handle. Obama's experience has taught him what can be accomplished by a small, focused, possibly church-based operation.

I've worked in soup kitchens and homeless shelters and I know the good work that's being done, and I can't see the government being able to accomplish what the churches and temples can do. For one thing, when a church receives money to feed the homeless, the money goes to feed the homeless--not pay staff members. A government program, comparable to what a church can run on a shoestring, would cost taxpayers a fortune. Of course a government program would create jobs, so perhaps the trade-off would be worth it, but I'd put my money on volunteers doing the job better.

The government funds all sorts of private programs that hurt society. Why not fund a few that help?

Are you telling me that a group of Wiccans will be able to access Federal Funds if they have an effective Drug Treatment Program?

Why not? There's nothing I've seen in the rules that would prevent it.

Can a group of Atheists get some dough if they have a way to help First Time Offenders transition back to normal society?

Tough question. Is atheism a faith? If so, they should qualify. I'm guessing the question would end up in the courts and cost the taxpayers a helluva lot of money, though.

Could Tom Cruise and John Travolta (shudder) get Federal Dollars for Narconon?

As far as I know, they already have. Not them personally, but Narconon.

Good points, and I don't have as much concern over this aspect of the platform, but of course, I think any group that has a credible plan or track record of helping people should be able to seek government help. I agree with the fact that in the case of church groups all the money goes where it's supposed to go. But the lines separating government and religion still need to remain firm. And in my mind, helping people is not a religious activity, it's a human activity.

I know this could help get Obama elected, and I'm happy about that, and I also know that Obama supports freedom of worship, which is good. What I do worry about is that the religious discussion has become policy instead of individual decision. That's the way it is, however, so Obama is probably doing the right thing.

I still shudder to think of prayer groups in grade schools and high schools. I think they would do great harm, and that religious worship should remain in churches and out of public places where people of other views would be pressured or ostracized, and where people with less lofty sentiments and less wisdom would create more division and less unity.

This is one of my big problems with organized religion. Yes it can do great good. But it nearly always does it in the name of some principle or belief that is exclusive. It doesn't say, "We all believe in the same thing, but choose to worship in different ways." It says, "We are right and everyone else is wrong, and if you don't come to our side, you don't belong." This is not what I think humanity needs, but that's just me, and I suppose it's somewhat off topic.

"And in my mind, helping people is not a religious activity, it's a human activity."

Religion is also human activity. And most religions promote service to others--feeding the poor, caring for the sick, etc.--so half of the equation is already in place.

I don't see any problem with giving money to religious organizations as long as it's given "blindly". It's got to be on the merits of the work that's being done, rather than on the merits of the religion. And there must be strict prohibitions against using the money for religious activity (these are already in place).

I agree completely on the need for separation of church and state. But the First Amendment doesn't talk about giving money to religions for social programs. It only talks about the establishment of [a national] religion. And clearly, giving money to a local food bank is not an establishment of religion. In fact, giving money to religious organizations without consideration for which religion you're granting the money to honors the spirit of the First Amendment.

If people understood religion better, they'd understand that most religions are inclusive and not exclusive. Most of the division and exclusion comes from misguided practitioners and from misunderstanding of the teachings rather than from the religions themselves. There are exceptions, but for the most part that's the case.

The kind of work churches do is the sort of thing the government is often ill-equipped to handle. Obama's experience has taught him what can be accomplished by a small, focused, possibly church-based operation.

Church-based, as in a foundation funded by a church, or the church itself? Big, big difference.

Is atheism a faith? If so, they should qualify.

If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby. And your second sentence has it exactly backwards.

Obama: And one can envision certain faith-based programs -- targeting ex-offenders or substance abusers -- that offer a uniquely powerful way of solving problems and here merit carefully tailored support.

Can someone point me to a "faith-based" program for ex-offenders or substance abusers that bases their program on science and/or medicine? A program that deals with evidence? A program that talks about genetic influences of addiction, what happens in the brain, uses of medicines and how and why they might or might not work? Any "faith based" programs that don't rely on, you know...faith! Blind, ignorant, lack-of-understanding faith? I'm not aware of one. But I am open to reading all about the ones that do indeed exist.

When Obama says they can only have grant money if they don't use it to proselytize or push their religion on others...I mean, what else are they going to do? They are not equipped, it seems to me, to do much of anything else.

When a pastor or a priest or a nun (or others in their flock) is tasked with helping others isn't it unreasonable to expect them to not talk about the very thing that gets them out of bed every day? The thing that gives them strength, purpose. Their raison d'etre?

And exacty how would one police all this? When quietly, privately counceling a drug addict what government entity is going to make sure there's no talk of religion or god or faith or converting?

Keeping church and state totally separated benefits both the state and the church.

I'm unhappy about all of this. But make no mistake... no matter what, Obama's my man. I'm voting for him. I'll vote for him despite this stupidity. But it is stupidity.

And now for something completely different!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXdwcIWIB_o

Any "faith based" programs that don't rely on, you know...faith!

The premise for your first 'graph is somewhat skewed.

A program might be sponsored by a religious organization, but their methods and procedures might be secular.

OTOH, Alcoholics Anonymous is NOT directly sponsored by or affiliated with any religion, yet the twelve steps employ references to some sort of higher power throughout.

You do ask excellent questions, applicable if the entire concept is constitutional. I disagree that the practice of dispensing Federal money to a religious organization complies with the intent of the Framers, but of course the Court decides what is de facto constitutional.

A program might be sponsored by a religious organization, but their methods and procedures might be secular.

Yes, "might be"... but that's what I'm asking for. I'm unaware of them.

I have no specifics, but it seems likely to me that there are religious organizations who sponsor programs where addicts are treated for their illness by MDs and trained psychologists.

For an obvious example, there are many religiously-sponsored hospitals. Certainly there are programs such as this that spring from those?

Do you have reason to think otherwise?

Tankard,

what I'm asking is pretty simple. Are there faith-based organizations that use strict secular, non-faith based treatments? I'm not talking about privately run hospitals. I am talking about the organizations that once upon a time, because of their religious nature, were not allowed federal dollars but because of Bush today they are.

I am simply saying that I know of none. I'm not saying I positively know there are none...just that I am unaware of them.

If there are, I would like to know of them.

I don't understand why you're rejecting hospitals O&O'd by, for example, the RC Church. Why doesn't such an institution constitute an answer to your question?

BTW, I want to underline that I was speculating about the existence of such programs. I just find it highly likely that there are.

Keeping church and state totally separated benefits both the state and the church.

Exactly. I read somewhere recently that the United States is now the most religious country on the planet. Whether or not this is precisely true or not, we became a very highly religous country not in spite of the First Amenment but because of it.

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