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Would YOU Want a Threesome
I've mentioned this point twice, tonight, in response to two other posts, so forgive me for hogging the airspace and turning my previous comments into a blog on it's own. But I feel that my point is a good one.
I'll keep it short.
If Obama was to choose Hillary Clinton as his VP, we could very well have:
A president, a co-President disguising herself as his VP, and a co-Former President disguising himself as the VP's mate.
Do we really need a menage-a-trois in the White House?
I think not.
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Comments (87)
You had me at 'Threesome'.
June 4, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have missed you so much, DF.
June 4, 2008 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Heh. Hey, my kinda post. ;)
The answer - NOOOOOOOO!
June 4, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's a white zebra with black stripes!
I hate it!
I only like black zebras with white stripes!
June 4, 2008 10:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who died and made you the Arbiter Princess of Zebra Colors?
Yeah, also, those are some eeewugly shoes! Get a makeover!
June 5, 2008 2:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
*cries and abases self before zebra*
June 5, 2008 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
no,no. Don't cry. Really, those are nice shoes. Dolce Vitas, no? Very nice.
[runs off]
June 5, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear MonicaL, I hope I have not offended for eternity. That would be sad indeed, given that I'm the Unity Zebra. Please tell me we are friends?
June 5, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
MonicaL is willing, and is your friend.
*embraces zebra*
June 5, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
;)
June 5, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Try getting a hotel room...
June 5, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Try looking at the zebra in a mirror. That should fix the colors.
June 5, 2008 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
For once, we agree!
June 4, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does that mean I can finally have your hat?
June 4, 2008 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course not! We agree for completely different reasons. I love my hat.
June 4, 2008 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but....so do I.
The guy wearing it isn't so bad either.
June 4, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hahaha, well he isn't real
June 4, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sometimes, you aren't either. But I still love you for your hat.
June 4, 2008 10:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm always real, sweetie.
June 4, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can you be real now? Can you be real now? Can you be real now? Can you be real now?
(Moves keyboard over, slightly to the left)
Can you be real now? Can you be real now?
(Tilts keyboard on a slight angle)
Can you be real now? Can you be real now?
June 4, 2008 11:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think my keyboard needs cat-rabbit ears.
June 4, 2008 11:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lalo, having read some of your other comments today, I just want to say that I'm sorry for the snarkiness here.
You obviously have your own point of view outside of your being a Hillary supporter, and you obviously can enjoy talking with and even imbibing alcoholic beverages with open-minded Obama supporters.
I've seen it. I know. I was there.
You really are real. You really are a real person.
Please understand that I did not understand this fact until I clicked on your username today, and discovered that fact. Up until then, I thought you were simply a hating asshole.
Lalo: I am letting you keep your hat, and I take mine off to you, in exchange.
You actually seem like you could be kinda cool if I met you on the street and didn't know who you were.
That's a start, no? Peace, Lalo....you can keep your hat.
June 5, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lis, on Hardball this afternoon, analysts said Obama's folks had signaled publicly that Hillary isn't under consideration for VP.
The stated reason is that she maintains she's been vetted already and wouldn't need to go through the process set up by Obama's committee.
Wrong. Obama's spokesmen said she AND Bill would have to disclose financial details, such as the list of library and foundation donors, what Bill did for the $15M from Ron Burkle, specifics of speaking fees and income from books, etc.
Maybe, maybe this one's put to rest.
June 4, 2008 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
From your comment to Our Higher Power's ears.
I still remember when Bill and Hillary were in the White House and Tipper Gore was our VP's spouse. I still remember having to pry labels off almost every CD I bought.
Tipper had her place in society, I suppose, and would've been a great First Lady with a lot of causes to fight for, but the reason I bring up the CD labels is because Tipper was once renounced by many right-wingers as being too Politically Correct and invasive. AND she was a VP's spouse. So given Bill's sometimes erratic behaviour this year on the campaign trail, I'd say Bill could be considered as being too UN-politically correct and invasive.
June 4, 2008 9:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is why Hillary always said she could deliver the swing voters.
I'm just shocked there are so many swing voters in states with older populations, like Pennsylvania and Ohio.
Indeed, learning that factory workers and those of lower incomes swing was one of the great takeaways of this year's election.
You can just imagine the bitter union worker in Toledo coming home to his wife, and insisting that she swing on election day, for Hill and
Bill.
June 4, 2008 9:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Suh-Wing!!! Comment of the night goes to articleman, who must be feeling happy today because he hasn't won his usual POST of the night, lol.
I hope you're drinking that wine you opened last night, my friend. If you finished it, I would love to send you another.
June 4, 2008 9:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I had a big glass of sweet German wine through Obama's speech. Am having a fundraiser for him on Saturday and serving this wine, it's fantastic.
I kind of teared up at the start of last night's, as I have a few times, including Iowa and South Carolina. I remember seeing him speak when I was 22, and I thought then he would be President someday, not that I was alone in thinking that, it was a common thought among people seeing this guy. Every time he launches into an important speech, I really get kind of emotional. I'm probably going to lose my shit on August 28, not afraid to admit it.
June 4, 2008 11:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Would you share with us, where you saw him, articleman? Was it in Chicago?
June 4, 2008 11:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Harvard Law School. He was speaking in favor of minority hiring on the faculty, as the faculty then had one tenured African-American (Derrick Bell), among its 67 or so members.
This avatar is a pic from the HLS library (or law review library, I don't know which) from that year.
June 5, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mmmm.... discussions of booze make me thirsty.... So I bought you both a beer. (An Obama beer, that is!)
June 5, 2008 2:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Time to move on!
June 4, 2008 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have. I joined moveon.org months ago.
Have you?
June 4, 2008 10:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I could be wrong because I have no proof (I know that doesn't stop Faux news) but I doubt it would be the first WH menage-a-trois where Bill's concerned.
Triumvirates didn't exactly work for the Romans, but I loved "Illusions on a Double Dimple" (Obscure progressive rock reference).
June 4, 2008 10:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I doubt Bill would want to leave Michelle out.
:0
(Runs screaming from thread)
June 4, 2008 10:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Threesome, you ask?
The most erotic encounter any of you pathetic, self-regarding, internet-obsessed Obama-worshippers have recently experienced is an onanistic onesome, and surely only after watching your beloved demogogue harangue you into a fervor of arousal on YouTube while you slurp your extra-hot half-caf lattes.
Don't flatter yourselves by thinking that the Clintons, or the McCains for that matter, would share their DNA with your false messiah. I, for one, would not.
Shame on you, LisB! Your public expects more of you.
June 4, 2008 11:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, Eddie, honey. You really ought to loosen the suspenders that hold up those cranky pants of yours...sweetie.
By the way......got a wife?
(wink wink)
June 4, 2008 11:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like DF, honey, you had me at Threesome. But the content trumped even the headline, as usual w/you. FWIW, last Tuesday night was the first time in almost 18 years that I wished I could have a drink. But I didn't: ODAT. And is there a Mr.B?
June 5, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Congrats on the 18 years, and thank you for your kind praise of my writing. I love coming up with fun headlines. And no, there is no Mr. B.
June 5, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Man, I hope you're kidding, otherwise you're a parody of yourself. And that, after all, isn't easy.
June 5, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're baaaaack!!!!!!
OMG. And on the menage-a-trois thread!
June 5, 2008 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
This nonagenarian wonders if it is a menage if it includes a zebra. The distinction between bestiality and an amicable romp in a thread among three fellowtraveling avatars is a fine one. Then again, you are a sentient zebra, which complicates the question further.
June 5, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
We sentient zebras bring much to thread romps.
June 5, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your muscular zebra limbs will snap my brittle bones like matchsticks. I will be consumed, annihilated by the mad bucking of the zebra avatar. I will then be as Achilles, consumed by flames on a pyre after dying at Troy. Ah, sweet obliteration of the self. My pants will crank no more.
June 5, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
[zebra snort] The Unity Zebra avatar is only for a few more days. These avatars make such striking pair, Mr. Crankypants. [tail swishes] However, I would not wish for your pants to stop cranking. Perhaps you should wait for a later romp then. I'll try MonicaL. I'm sure she'd be willing.
June 5, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you a male zebra or a female zebra?
Or is unity zebra kind of like unisex?
June 5, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
you silly. It's unity of black-white on one animal, coexisting and defining the animal. They are gorgeous critters. In 2000 I was in Kenya for a year. I saw the zebras and other critters as I found my way around Africa. What an absolutely amazing continent and the people are so nice.
June 5, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Zebras are the prettiest horses, and horses are pretty cool to begin with.
So is that avatar your own pic?
June 5, 2008 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't know much about horses. Know about cats! ;)
As it happens, yes, I did.
June 5, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, you had the bestest cat avatar around here. Hope it's coming back as soon as unity takes hold.
June 5, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, he'll come back soon. Diff. pict, same cat.
June 5, 2008 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll get some cat food ready.
June 5, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama/Clintons/threesome? Icky!
June 4, 2008 11:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nonono, Ickes is out.
June 5, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's all a little kinky for me, and I can already visualize the "San Francisco values" ads showing Bill in a swing. Ugghhh, I have to stop now.
June 4, 2008 11:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
As the song of your name goes, "I am so sickened now . . ."
June 4, 2008 11:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
SERIOUSLY!
June 5, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're here too?
Someone de-nail your coffin?
Lis wants your hat.
June 4, 2008 11:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
The above is for that a Crankypants person.
Lis, to answer your question, I don't think I want the image of Bill Clinton in a menage of any sort. No offense meant to MonicaL, who I see is making an appearance tonight.
June 4, 2008 11:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
She may touch the brim, gently.
June 5, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking of which, the real reason Obama will never offer VP to Hillary is Michelle has put the kabosh on the idea. It won't even get to the vetting phase.
June 5, 2008 12:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
I just want to let everybody know, for historical reference, that on June 5, a huge section of the city of Constantinople burned, killing 900.
I just automatically think of June 5 as Burning Constantinople Day, in case that ever pops up in conversation and it seems inexplicable or inappropriate to you.
That's just how I remember it's June 5.
So don't freak out or make a big deal out of it if I bring it up.
June 5, 2008 12:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
A question for your question:
It depends, would any other LisB-ans would be participating?
(sorry, no one else made the joke yet!)
:)
June 5, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Now that is funny!!
June 5, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
You suffer Sapphic humor in this thread? Are you possessed of your wits and morals? You are surely the Oscar Wilde of TPM posters.
June 5, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Being a self-confessed nonagenarian, you probably still think 'gay' means 'carefree'.
June 5, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Count me in if she http://www.starpulse.com/Actresses/Pinkett,_Jada/gallery/JTM-023760/
is there :)
June 5, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Do we really need a menage-a-trois in the White House?
LisB, you're just downright salacious. I sincerely fear for what the future holds for TPMCafé, now that you've made the rec list with this ... this ... outrage.
Even if I secretly hope that such a future might include your ability to embed random media of your own choosing, that's no excuse for the offense you've caused here and now.
June 5, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
"salacious"
It's not LisB's fault that a discussion of running mate possibilities turns salacious. It's because any discussion that involves Bill Clinton naturally makes one think of philandering and sexual adventures in the workplace.
Does anyone else think that Hillary would have won this primary if she had kicked Bill out of the house a few years ago? I do.
June 5, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
If that would have made the difference in choosing our next President, I think that is a scarey proposition. How about if she had voted against going into Iraq, or even said she learned her lesson and not voted with Bush on Iran?
Now those would be substantive reasons to consider a vote for a president.
Of course, going along your same vein, if Barack were married to a white woman he would never have gotten anywhere.
And going EVEN FURTHER-- If Clinton had not cheated on his wife, Gore would be President now, we wouldn't be at war, and MAYBE the 911 plot would have been foiled. We'll never know, will we?
June 5, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
In all honesty, I thought Chino Blanco was being snarky. I guess I was wrong?
June 5, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course! I was just using the comment as a taking off point for one of my pet peeves - the fact that Hillary stood by her man. CvillDem... it's not quite like that would have made the difference, only... Yes, it would have, but maybe only because it would have shown Hillary was a different kind of person than she turned out to be? More assertive, more self-respect, less willing to do whatever it takes to get elected (like stay with Bill)? I don't know, "What ifs" are so hard to guess, and they can be painful (If Gore had been elected...)
Not that I'm opposed to salacious, mind you, it's just that Bill Clinton overdoes it, maybe?
June 5, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
When am I not snarky?
LisB ... you rock! In your own peculiar, salacious way ...
As if that was a bad thing ;-)
June 5, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was just listening to a song yesterday - No I in Threesome
June 5, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
LisB, you are absolutely right. With or without cigars, that just wouldn't work.
June 5, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
When do you all climb aboard the Ship of Hope and practice Reaching Across the Aisle? Wait, let me get my calendar.
June 5, 2008 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd reach out to you, only you'd never reach back.
June 5, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're a hard-working, white zebra, albeit with black stripes. You will be our outreach agent.
June 5, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Careful. It could be a black zebra with white stripes in disguise.
June 5, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you, MonicaL for the assignment. ;)
If I were to be a zebra, I'd be a golden brown one with white stripes. ;)
The zebra is perfect for the metaphors I see of black stripes (writing) on a white body (a nation). The black zebra with white marks is what we have had just by virtue of history written in Archivistan. With Obama, the counter-memory is neigh upon us.
June 5, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I already reached out, if you'll take notice of the Most Recommended list.
June 5, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I did take note of it. I read it and I agreed with a few points, but the fact that everyone except Hillary's supporters are still pushing the idea tells me that it's not a good idea.
First, Hillary is overqualified as VP unless she wants to be the Cheney kind of VP. That's change?
Second, while Bill Clinton has done some great things for charities and is known to be a great speaker, he's also known for other things that are not so great. As the spouse of the Vice President, he will be in the spotlight more than he's been in it as the spouse of a NY Senator. And being the spouse of a NY Senator didn't stop him from hanging out with his good buddy Burkle. He didn't break ties with Burkle until earlier this year. That's change?
Obama's VP has to represent change, just as Obama does. Hillary and Bill represent Hillary and Bill.
That being said, your posts are always well-written, thought out, and for that, I love reading reading them.
I really hope someday, Desi, that we can get along. Thanks for reading my post.
June 5, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lis, you noticed, no doubt what Mr. Crankyperson said about touching his hat brim...?
lol.
June 5, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, but when he said "gently" it kinda gave me the heebie jeebies, so I refused to touch it.
June 5, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rest assured, Lis, we won't.
But might I recommend Digby and Shakesville for your morning blogroll.
June 6, 2008 1:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Blacks like the idea of Hillary as VP, but the white progressives who pretend to speak for blacks hate it.
June 6, 2008 2:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
For a while it looked like no one wanted to add to this thread while the number of posts was at 69...
June 5, 2008 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I want 69 recommends. :-p
June 5, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
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